US tracking suspected Chinese surveillance balloon - Feds afraid of popping Xi's big red balloon

"The US has been monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been spotted in the skies over the northern US this week.

Pentagon officials said in a briefing they are "confident that this high-altitude surveillance balloon" belongs to China.
US military chiefs have for now decided against blowing the alleged spy craft out of the sky, citing safety concerns.
US President Joe Biden has been briefed on the situation, said the Pentagon.
The balloon was over the western state of Montana on Wednesday, according to defence officials.
They added that US military leaders, including Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, met on Wednesday to assess the threat. Mr Austin was travelling to the Philippines at the time.

The military commanders advised against taking "kinetic action" against the balloon because of the danger of debris falling to the ground.
A senior defence official speaking on condition of anonymity said there was no "significantly enhanced threat" of US intelligence being compromised because US officials "know exactly where this balloon is and exactly where it's passing over".
He added that there was no threat to civilian aviation either because the balloon is "significantly" above the altitude used by commercial airlines.
The senior defence official said the US has raised the matter with Chinese officials in their embassy in Washington DC and in Beijing.
The object flew over Alaska's Aleutian Islands and through Canada before appearing over the city of Billings, Montana, on Wednesday, officials say.

During Thursday's briefing at the Pentagon, officials declined to disclose the aircraft's current location. They also refused to provide more details of the object, including its size.

"There have been reports of pilots seeing this thing even though it's pretty high up in the sky," the unnamed defence official said.
"So you know, it's, it's sizable."
The official added that similar balloons have appeared in the skies over the US in the past few years.
But the current balloon "is appearing to hang out for a longer period of time" and has been "more persistent" than previous spy crafts.
It is unclear why it was seen in that particular region of the US. Billings is around 250 miles (400km) southwest of the Malmstrom Air Force Base, which is one of three US air bases that house the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile.
Pentagon officials refused to confirm if the base was a surveillance target, but agreed "the current flight path does carry it over a number of sensitive sites".

The alleged spy craft confounded social media users in Montana on Wednesday.
People posted photos of a pale round object in the sky that floated separately from the moon. Others reported seeing US military planes in the area, apparently monitoring the object.
It also led to a two-hour ground stop at Billings Logan International Airport after aviation officials made the decision to close 50 sq miles of air space.
It comes ahead of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to China.
The top US diplomat will be in Beijing next week to hold talks on a wide range of issues, including security, Taiwan and Covid-19.
He will meet Chinese President Xi Jinping, the Financial Times newspaper reported on Thursday."
 
Clearly, they're trying to figure out the secrets behind our dinner forks.
Its only a matter of time until they find a way to tune them so they impurify our bodily fluids. We can't let the Chinese create a fork gap!

EDIT: That drink better be pure grain alcohol mixed with rainwater, @Jaimas .
 
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Well regardless they just gave us a fully intact surveillance device the size of 3 buses they probably have many of them in operation and we are gonna study the fuck out of it and figure out what its capabilities are and ways to create countermeasures against it. I am certain the US DoD know what it is but they don't have the full specs on it, now they can do a full write up on the device. If it is incompetence on China they basically gave up one of their cards in their deck letting it fly into our airspace, they are not getting it back.
What if there's nothing of value in it and conducting any kind of actual spying in such a blatant way was never their goal? It could be russia tactics with bolsterous chinese characteristics.
Either way, their excuse/explanation will be hilarious and it will be fun to see if western governments toe the line and agree with their bullshit.
 
i love how so many people are freaking out about a balloon saying that it makes us look weak as a country that a balloon got here to spy on us when china has hundreds of spy satellites out there right now. lets not forget the various spy programs that are out there as well.

like if china is resorting to balloons to spy on us i think that says more about them than it does about us and as far as shooting it down i would just go grab the tech off it but leave the balloon.

maybe i just watch too much tv but popping a random balloon sounds like a recipe for mysterious new disease sweeps the country nonsense again since who knows whats inside the balloon itself.

oh and another thing if we have actually important top secret stuff just out there able to be accessed via balloon thats kinda pathetic.
They aren't 'resorting' to balloons. Like you said, they already have sats.
This is either to dunk on Americans, an infiltration/positioning test for future jetstream vehicles, or a response probe. Or all three.

And yeah the big deal ain't popping it or not, it's waking up one day with it already in position. If they can send one they can send a hundred thousand of them with spicier payloads, and we don't know exactly where they were aiming and therefore how accurate it was. We can't assume this is like WW2 tech where the Japanese were just hoping it'd land somewhere important; balloons are neat.
People are asking why they'd use a conventional-type weather balloon instead of a "stealth" balloon and the answer is pretty obvious. Mylar balloons themselves are already generally transparent to radar and it's high as fuck. The payload is what you'd want to make sneakier, but there's no reason to get fancy on a test mission and tell people what they should be looking for (also plausible deniability I guess). And not that anyone was looking until now, but the fact that it wasn't necessary is probably somewhat valuable data in itself.

On the other hand if the CCP is reading this I'd like to propose that you don't weaponise anything; burgers are so nutty right now that you should just keep sending progressively goofier pranks until they all die from comedy
 
i love how so many people are freaking out about a balloon saying that it makes us look weak as a country that a balloon got here to spy on us when china has hundreds of spy satellites out there right now. lets not forget the various spy programs that are out there as well.

like if china is resorting to balloons to spy on us i think that says more about them than it does about us and as far as shooting it down i would just go grab the tech off it but leave the balloon.

maybe i just watch too much tv but popping a random balloon sounds like a recipe for mysterious new disease sweeps the country nonsense again since who knows whats inside the balloon itself.

oh and another thing if we have actually important top secret stuff just out there able to be accessed via balloon thats kinda pathetic.
If the US gov was smart they would have claimed it was just a weather balloon blown of course.

Instead some state department dumbass thought saying it was a Chinese spy balloon was a good idea - probably because it helps feed into the China = bad narrative the US needs for bull prepping WW3.

Saying it is a spy balloon leads to the very obvious question of "why not shoot it down". Since its now over a populated area and intercepting high alt balloons is pretty difficult the US likely won't be able to intercept it. Normies aren't able to understand this, for example look at some of the replies in this thread.

So now the worlds most expensive military is sitting back and doing nothing while a hostile nations spy balloon floats over it. That looks pretty weak.
 
They aren't 'resorting' to balloons. Like you said, they already have sats.
This is either to dunk on Americans, an infiltration/positioning test for future jetstream vehicles, or a response probe. Or all three.
You wake up one day and see that someone is dangling their dick through the mail slot on the door. You say "I'll get some scissors and that'll teach them a lesson", the authority figure says "no, we know who the dick belongs to"
 
Instead some state department dumbass thought saying it was a Chinese spy balloon was a good idea - probably because it helps feed into the China = bad narrative the US needs for bull prepping WW3.
ww3 against china?
lol, imagine thinking the whores of the us government will stand up against their pimps, the chinese government
 
seriously well regulated militia where the fuck are you assholes
Infringed, that's where. >12.7mm diameter rifle is right out. So are most energetic compounds in useful quantities. Model rockets have limitations on solid booster size. Liquid fuel requires the budget of a nation-state or one of the richest people in the world. That's just getting a payload with enough oomph from ground to target. If you want to talk about range-finding, guidance, and control we're looking at even more steps between the common man and being capable of bringing it down.

Even if someone had managed to bridge these gaps, it would not be in their best interest to demonstrate that capability here and now.
 
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