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Lmao sure Olly. He's not overweight but I wouldn't call him thin, either. He's just average. Compared to a real thin woman he's ginormous.white and thin
Of course the accurate answer is that the majority of British terfs don’t even know he exists because he’s completely irrelevant. It’s fascinating to see the way he describes himself (thin, pretty, classy, posh, and he thinks his platform is intellectual), which is entirely opposite to what he actually is—chubby, blockheaded, wears clothes that are too small, I’ll give him posh (though I’m surprised he admits it) and his platform is entirely surface-level and vacuous.View attachment 4430196
His long as hell answer:
So the thing is, people on the internet have and do try to wreck my life! But it's true that I get less of it than a lot of other women, and I often ask myself (and them) this same question. I think it comes down to a few factors. In no particular order:
To be absolutely clear, a LOT of this is luck and privilege. I'm not trying to blame the victims of online harassment: yes, some of these factors are things I choose to do but not everyone is able to make those choices. It's also the unwinnable game of respectability politics: yes I might get less hate because of the way I dress or whatever, but fundamentally that won't protect me if I get arrested and sent to a men's prison. These things aren't a substitute for a more just distribution of power. There's also this final possible factor:
- I'm white and thin
- I don't post selfies very often
- The Philosophy Tube Jutsu: I never use my platform to say anything bad about individuals, so I don't make enemies
- I'm British
- I don't put my pronouns or the word 'trans' in my bio. I mention it if it it's relevant but to a casual troll looking for someone to go after there are more obvious targets
- My brand: in terms of online content, my brand is 'Educational and Compassionate.' I try to be even-handed and listen to all sides and never be angry, and people are maybe a bit reluctant to get mad at someone who does that? In terms of acting, my brand right now is 'I'm Trying Hard and I'm On My Way Up!' which I guess people like?
- I have a posh accent
- I don't make online content about video games
- I'm pretty enough that men like looking at me but not so hot it makes them angry
- I transitioned in private before I came out publicly. I knew that when I did I'd get a lot of backlash, so I pre-emptively muted LOADS of words in my comments section and wove a kind of digital safety net
- I'm so busy that I often miss whatever the discourse du jour is and don't get involved. As a wise woman once said, 'Do Not Tweet.'
- I deliberately dress and present myself as 'classy' in public-facing stuff
- Most of my content is scripted, so by default it attracts people who like to sit down and listen
- Philosophy Tube is literally all about critical thinking and not taking things at face value. So if a typical Philosophy Tube Subscriber sees a post that says 'I saw Abigail Thorn kicking a puppy down the street!' they're more likely to stop and think, 'What's the evidence for this?' This means that when there are hate campaigns and lies spread about me (and there are, from time to time) my core audience sees through it and sticks around
- I have very good mods! Big shout out to all the lovely people on r/philosophytube and all the people who moderate my livestream chats!
- I have a social media manager who can look out for hate and pre-emptively guard against it
- I don't hitch my brand to other people. I sometimes do little collabs or appear at events with other creators but for the most part I fly solo. That means if another creator blows up or posts something awful I minimise my chances of cancellation-by-association. I'm friends with lots of creators but for the most part I keep it behind the scenes (Learned this one the hard way!)
- I'm not a sex worker. Those people get hate like you wouldn't believe - the sex workers I know are the toughest folks I've ever met!
- I'm not very fun to bully! I do get death threats and hate campaigns and people make fake porn of me and libel me and all that stuff - literally every day - I just never talk about it publicly so trolls don't get the satisfaction of seeing me get upset. I just mute and block and move on silently. When I have to talk to a lawyer or the police about someone causing a problem, I handle it behind the scenes
- Platform size. When TERFs in British media go after someone they tend to pick on people smaller than them, cause they're bullies.
- I built my platform slowly, so I've had time to adjust and get used to how it impacts my life
- People have tried to cancel me in the past and it's blown up in their faces, e.g. the Trump Transition Tweet Incident and the B*ck A*gel Affair.
#The Jutsu#Do Not Tweet#And Still the Brand Endure[\SPOILER]
- It just hasn't happened yet.
That couldn't be the case; according to this individual, Elon Musk personally watches their videos and will make decisions based upon their criticisms and input. Obviously the terfs all know who they are!Of course the accurate answer is that the majority of British terfs don’t even know he exists because he’s completely irrelevant.
Its kind of interesting that in this case the woman here wasn't white, and was the victim of presumably a bunch of white males.Not strictly related to Oliver, but British TRAs have taken yet another massive L in a year already full of them:
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Let's hope they keep coming!
Yeah I don't understand the videogame comment at all, for one, as you say, TERFs aren't gamers, and two, an absolute shitload of troons are obsessed with videogames and make a name of themselves in that area. I think he's probably just unthinkingly regurgitating tropes about Gamergate and imagining that doing anything related to games means you immediately get assailed by racist sexists if you aren't literally part of the Hitler youth.So here is that same list with all the outright falsehoods/narcissistic delusions crossed out:
[*]I'm whiteand thin(Irrelevant)
[*]I don't post selfies very often
[*]The Philosophy Tube Jutsu: I never use my platform to say anything bad about individuals, so I don't make enemies
[*]I'm British (Irrelevant)
[*]I don't put my pronouns or the word 'trans' in my bio.I mention it if it it's relevant but to a casual troll looking for someone to go after there are more obvious targets(Technically true perhaps - doesn't mean it's not obvious he's a tranny though)
[*]My brand: in terms of online content, my brand is 'Educational and Compassionate.' I try to be even-handed and listen to all sides and never be angry, and people are maybe a bit reluctant to get mad at someone who does that? In terms of acting, my brand right now is 'I'm Trying Hard and I'm On My Way Up!' which I guess people like?
[*]I have a posh accent (Irrelevant)
[*]I don't make online content about video games (Is this relevant? No idea. I doubt many TERFs are gamers)
[*]I'm pretty enough that men like looking at me but not so hot it makes them angry
[*]I transitioned in private before I came out publicly. I knew that when I did I'd get a lot of backlash, so I pre-emptively muted LOADS of words in my comments section and wove a kind of digital safety net
[*]I'm so busy that I often miss whatever the discourse du jour is and don't get involved. As a wise woman once said, 'Do Not Tweet.'
[*]I deliberately dress and present myself as 'classy' in public-facing stuff
[*]Most of my content is scripted, so by default it attracts people who like to sit down and listen
[*]Philosophy Tube is literally all about critical thinking and not taking things at face value. So if a typical Philosophy Tube Subscriber sees a post that says 'I saw Abigail Thorn kicking a puppy down the street!' they're more likely to stop and think, 'What's the evidence for this?' This means that when there are hate campaigns and lies spread about me (and there are, from time to time) my core audience sees through it and sticks around
[*]I have very good mods! Big shout out to all the lovely people on r/philosophytube and all the people who moderate my livestream chats!
[*]I have a social media manager who can look out for hate and pre-emptively guard against it
[*]I don't hitch my brand to other people. I sometimes do little collabs or appear at events with other creators but for the most part I fly solo. That means if another creator blows up or posts something awful I minimise my chances of cancellation-by-association. I'm friends with lots of creators but for the most part I keep it behind the scenes (Learned this one the hard way!) (Actually good advice for anyone on BreadTube - they're all waiting for a chance to stab you in the back)
[*]I'm not a sex worker. Those people get hate like you wouldn't believe - the sex workers I know are the toughest folks I've ever met! (Irrelevant?)
[*]I'm not very fun to bully! I do get death threats and hate campaigns and people make fake porn of me and libel me and all that stuff - literally every day - I just never talk about it publicly so trolls don't get the satisfaction of seeing me get upset. I just mute and block and move on silently. When I have to talk to a lawyer or the police about someone causing a problem, I handle it behind the scenes
[*]Platform size. When TERFs in British media go after someone they tend to pick on people smaller than them, cause they're bullies.
[*]I built my platform slowly, so I've had time to adjust and get used to how it impacts my life (What does this have to do with TERFs/drama?)
[*]People have tried to cancel me in the past and it's blown up in their faces, e.g. the Trump Transition Tweet Incident and the B*ck A*gel Affair. (Don't know enough about it to comment, but I doubt anyone tried that hard)
Of course the real reason is that there aren't any targets - it's just a paranoid fantasy. When troons do something crazy and unacceptable, such as demanding that rapists wearing lipstick get sent to women's prisons, then people who aren't afraid of the backlash will criticise them for it. Troons will then claim that they are being 'attacked' by J. K. Rowling and her evil minions. Some of them probably even believe it.
I watched the video and he only briefly mentions Choob at the beginning and the end, so it's only worth watching if you're interested in what the kraut professor is saying more broadly rather than hearing criticism of Ollie's videos.
I think is exactly the inverse of how social media "drama" works. He thinks he's bigger than J. K. Rowling or even Julie Bindel? That neither one could dare go "look at this faggot" about Olly because of the hell that would rain down on them? That nobody has taken on his videos because he's too powerful not because they were brilliant arguments?Platform size. When TERFs in British media go after someone they tend to pick on people smaller than them, cause they're bullies.
A lot of words to say "I'm one of the good ones
I think is exactly the inverse of how social media "drama" works. He thinks he's bigger than J. K. Rowling or even Julie Bindel? That neither one could dare go "look at this faggot" about Olly because of the hell that would rain down on them? That nobody has taken on his videos because he's too powerful not because they were brilliant arguments?
He really loves these questions where he can endlessly brag about himself.View attachment 4430196
His long as hell answer:
So the thing is, people on the internet have and do try to wreck my life! But it's true that I get less of it than a lot of other women, and I often ask myself (and them) this same question. I think it comes down to a few factors. In no particular order:
To be absolutely clear, a LOT of this is luck and privilege. I'm not trying to blame the victims of online harassment: yes, some of these factors are things I choose to do but not everyone is able to make those choices. It's also the unwinnable game of respectability politics: yes I might get less hate because of the way I dress or whatever, but fundamentally that won't protect me if I get arrested and sent to a men's prison. These things aren't a substitute for a more just distribution of power. There's also this final possible factor:
- I'm white and thin
- I don't post selfies very often
- The Philosophy Tube Jutsu: I never use my platform to say anything bad about individuals, so I don't make enemies
- I'm British
- I don't put my pronouns or the word 'trans' in my bio. I mention it if it it's relevant but to a casual troll looking for someone to go after there are more obvious targets
- My brand: in terms of online content, my brand is 'Educational and Compassionate.' I try to be even-handed and listen to all sides and never be angry, and people are maybe a bit reluctant to get mad at someone who does that? In terms of acting, my brand right now is 'I'm Trying Hard and I'm On My Way Up!' which I guess people like?
- I have a posh accent
- I don't make online content about video games
- I'm pretty enough that men like looking at me but not so hot it makes them angry
- I transitioned in private before I came out publicly. I knew that when I did I'd get a lot of backlash, so I pre-emptively muted LOADS of words in my comments section and wove a kind of digital safety net
- I'm so busy that I often miss whatever the discourse du jour is and don't get involved. As a wise woman once said, 'Do Not Tweet.'
- I deliberately dress and present myself as 'classy' in public-facing stuff
- Most of my content is scripted, so by default it attracts people who like to sit down and listen
- Philosophy Tube is literally all about critical thinking and not taking things at face value. So if a typical Philosophy Tube Subscriber sees a post that says 'I saw Abigail Thorn kicking a puppy down the street!' they're more likely to stop and think, 'What's the evidence for this?' This means that when there are hate campaigns and lies spread about me (and there are, from time to time) my core audience sees through it and sticks around
- I have very good mods! Big shout out to all the lovely people on r/philosophytube and all the people who moderate my livestream chats!
- I have a social media manager who can look out for hate and pre-emptively guard against it
- I don't hitch my brand to other people. I sometimes do little collabs or appear at events with other creators but for the most part I fly solo. That means if another creator blows up or posts something awful I minimise my chances of cancellation-by-association. I'm friends with lots of creators but for the most part I keep it behind the scenes (Learned this one the hard way!)
- I'm not a sex worker. Those people get hate like you wouldn't believe - the sex workers I know are the toughest folks I've ever met!
- I'm not very fun to bully! I do get death threats and hate campaigns and people make fake porn of me and libel me and all that stuff - literally every day - I just never talk about it publicly so trolls don't get the satisfaction of seeing me get upset. I just mute and block and move on silently. When I have to talk to a lawyer or the police about someone causing a problem, I handle it behind the scenes
- Platform size. When TERFs in British media go after someone they tend to pick on people smaller than them, cause they're bullies.
- I built my platform slowly, so I've had time to adjust and get used to how it impacts my life
- People have tried to cancel me in the past and it's blown up in their faces, e.g. the Trump Transition Tweet Incident and the B*ck A*gel Affair.
#The Jutsu#Do Not Tweet#And Still the Brand Endure[\SPOILER]
- It just hasn't happened yet.
Hah, didn't even notice this. Fucking everything has to be a humblebrag, he just said 'Yeah, I'm so big and famous that they don't dare go after me, they only target the relative peasants when it comes to troons'.I think is exactly the inverse of how social media "drama" works. He thinks he's bigger than J. K. Rowling or even Julie Bindel? That neither one could dare go "look at this faggot" about Olly because of the hell that would rain down on them? That nobody has taken on his videos because he's too powerful not because they were brilliant arguments?
I think he looks at his global subscriber count and thinks it gives him real world power in the UK when many of the British TERFs he's thinking of would have no problem publishing a column about some troon YouTuber who sucks. Hell, most of them could probably do this on Twitter or YouTube and enough people dislike Olly that they'd get away with it easily.Hah, didn't even notice this. Fucking everything has to be a humblebrag, he just said 'Yeah, I'm so big and famous that they don't dare go after me, they only target the relative peasants when it comes to troons'.
I'm late, but who decided on Lennard's costume design? It's so unflattering. It looks as if he selected it himself to be provocative, but I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to give him full costume control.View attachment 4365639
Olly literally looks like a fucking ORC with these facial expressions
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He’s motivated to find those hobbits and kill them
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And look at the muffin top that can’t be contained by his girdle. It’s like the leather vest and horseshot. Flabbosophy Tube can’t be contained
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If he was half as big and important and successful as he says he is he would take the algorithmic hit because his massive unstoppable biggest trans youtuber audience ever would find him anyway and it wouldn't matter.