Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[Sprate Header]

Why doesn't this person just do it already instead of obsessively spamming the board with this shit everyday? At least 10 posts/comments of this every single day. SN has been available since she signed up for the site, it's cheap and pretty low risk. I hate that no one can tell her to just shut the fuck up.


View attachment 4424384

FuneralCry is like if everyone hated @AnOminous but nobody could tell him to kill himself because Null wanted to fuck him.

 

[pizzarat]

Let me add. What I find interesting is that nobody seems to be allowed to tell them to shut up for some reason.

Everyone who has called FC or RainandSadness out on this matter have either been labeled bullies, warned, or outright banned. Now it seems like people are hesitant to speak up.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Per @iffywas last post, SS user LastFlowers is clutching those pearls a bit aggressively there. Calm down dude.

They have faith that the Wise and Just Censor will see the obvious nuance between the two murderbyonlineposts forums.

 

[iffywas]

Note that in the screencaps I posted about the KF thread, FC was mentioned several times and the thread wasn't even about her. That's how much she pisses people off, daily.

bUt Pr0 LiFe BulLiEs
t0xIc PoSiTiViTy

reeeeeeee

Why doesn't this person just do it already instead of obsessively spamming the board with this shit everyday? At least 10 posts/comments of this every single day. SN has been available since she signed up for the site, it's cheap and pretty low risk. I hate that no one can tell her to just shut the fuck up.


View attachment 4424384

Looks like she's made 18,000 drivel posts now. Congrats I guess.

 

[LeftTitGalore]

It was back up last I checked, though I'd argue CoE is way more tongue in cheek than this. While they were serious environmentalists (Save the planet. Kill yourself.) and provided instructions on methods the whole site was drenched in parody. SS is just filled with doom and gloom and has none of the self-awareness.

SS is just incredibly retarded. Like in the strictest sense. Painfully thick. Incels are bad enough on their own, but armed with awful misreadings of Nietzsche and misanthropic because they've got a microdong they're ten times worse. There are members (typically older) who exhibit nuanced thinking and solid argumentation, but they're easily drowned out by untouched NEETs proclaiming the death of god and the delights of eternal nothingness. It's just so drab.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

SS is just incredibly retarded. Like in the strictest sense. Painfully thick. Incels are bad enough on their own, but armed with awful misreadings of Nietzsche and misanthropic because they've got a microdong they're ten times worse. There are members (typically older) who exhibit nuanced thinking and solid argumentation, but they're easily drowned out by untouched NEETs proclaiming the death of god and the delights of eternal nothingness. It's just so drab.

No sympathy for incels. If you kill yourself because nobody wants to have sex with you, it proves that they were right not to. Nobody is going to love you the way you are if you're a fat, ugly, obnoxious retard. At least one of those things needs to change to earn a chance to get laid, and everyone has the power to change their self.

Some ideas that probably never occurred to suicidal incels:

1. Lose weight and/or build muscle
2. Improve your personal hygiene
3. Resist the urge to complain constantly
4. Leave your home, because the only women you'll meet there are hookers who make house calls
5. Learn a skill or trade. Nobody wants a partner who's useless at home
6. Lower your standards. You don't deserve a 10 if you're a 3 yourself

Women can put up with a lot. In order to be completely unfuckable to the entire human race, you pretty much have to not even be trying. Lack of sex is a really dumb reason to an hero.

 

[demicolon]

Everyone younger than 25 should be legally banned from using the Internet. I hate kids, they ruin fucking everything they touch.

 

[iffywas]

Everyone younger than 25 should be legally banned from using the Internet. I hate kids, they ruin fucking everything they touch.

There is sometimes discussion at SS regarding how the brain doesn't develop properly until around the age of 25, so those who take their lives at a younger age are therefore not giving themselves a chance. I tend to agree, but as always there will be many exceptions. I don't think there's much future for youngsters these days so it's hardly surprising so many are feeling hopeless enough to check out.

 

[Karen™]

Great OP, great thread. Always learning something new and interesting on this, the far superior beleaguered forum.

Tracked down the "PPH" (Peaceful Pill Handbook) I saw mentioned in an archived post to satisfy some curiosity while waiting for SS to let me register and browse its spicy threads. Sharing the pdf in case anyone here wants to kys, learn some shit, or just enjoy some of the book's wonderfully explanatory images:

Banned from SaSu, I remain on Incels.is .

I intend to return one day under an alt, but only after I succeed in life myself. Despite the arguments against me doing so, I feel like I have to try. Though with better execution. I've prevented or delayed some suicides by instilling hope.

And the main reason I do this is due to the fact that with most users on there, it's all due to the lack of identity, so they stake their entire identity on their sexuality, race, gender, etcetera.

I believe that if one can use every trait and find themselves, all the problems will be solved, whether through the need for censorship, and suicidality. And I say that confidently.

Just transmax already, faggot

 

[Kees H]

Great OP, great thread. Always learning something new and interesting on this, the far superior beleaguered forum.

Tracked down the "PPH" (Peaceful Pill Handbook) I saw mentioned in an archived post to satisfy some curiosity while waiting for SS to let me register and browse its spicy threads. Sharing the pdf in case anyone here wants to kys, learn some shit, or just enjoy some of the book's wonderfully explanatory images:
View attachment 4429156

The Dutch/Netherlands phone number in this phonebook is from this Dutch foundation all about losing iPods and becoming an hero, according to the Dutch companies register, and they list it on their site as well: https://devredigepil.nl

On their website they claim their mission is only to advise on how to get to Switzerland to get one of the an hero institutes over there to kill you, so it's hilarious their phone number shows up in a book like this. They do have a link to where you can buy their book on tips what to do after losing your iPod, so they are not as "innocent" as they like to portray themselves. Mostly think this is due to being liable under Eurofag law if they advise someone on killing themselves, but funny to find their phone number on a book showing how to do it yourself.

 

[pizzarat]

I saw mentioned in an archived post to satisfy some curiosity while waiting for SS to let me register and browse its spicy threads.

It hasn't been that spicy lately. It's mostly just stuff like this.

 

[Tantacrul]

Tantacrul here. Can verify myself by making a public comment on my video or something similar.

So, to start, the 'assessment' by the OP of this thread is laughable. It states that my video is bullshit even though the following statements are demonstrably true:

1. The site contains statements of encouragement for anon users to kill themselves on a daily basis (breaking the supposed main rule of the site)
2. The site contains multiple threads where people ask to be DM'd the email addresses of sellers from whom they can buy poisons to kill themselves on a daily basis. They are then given this information (I experienced this personally and I purchased a method myself by following this exact procedure. It was simple.)
3. The site has instruction threads which were (until my vid came out) publicly available to anyone. They'll be made publicly available again when the hear dies down. This is also what they did when the NYT article came out.
4. The site has an instruction thread for buying SN which leads to Exit International, which requires a subscription to join. This is undeniably true
5. The site has a partners section which has been used by predators to target vulnerable young people (leading to a prosecution of one user in Glasgow, which I discuss in the video). The site has not removed the partners section in response. They think it's fine that it remains as is.
6. The site verifiably coached a 17 year old to kill himself. This kid was not the first minor the site has helped to die.
7. As mentioned by others in this thread, the main mascot of the site, who posts morbid nonsense about how everyone should die because life is a cruel mistake - is actively protected by the admin despite constant complaints from other users on the forum who rightly see these posts as toxic and dangerous, given the highly vulnerable nature of many of those on SS.
8. The site is a 'free speech' site.... unless someone dares to challenge it too effectively. If you do that, you get banned.

Take those points together and you have the substance of my video. Pretty difficult to see how this can be picked apart, since most of the points are simple statements of fact.

Another few points in response to the OP's conclusions:

1. I do not make a judgement about section 230 or whether or not free speech should be curtailed in my video. I simply point out that the debate exists. I have very nuanced feelings about this topic... but in general I am very uneasy with the idea of applying rules that limit free speech. I just felt that my own opinions were not massively relevant. I expected people to make up their own minds. The OP states that my aim is to kill section 230, which is a moronic reading.
   
   
2. I do not at any point make a judgement about personal autonomy when it comes to ending one's life. Specifically, I do not make a judgement call about whether someone has the right to take matters into their own hands or not. This is actually not really a point I needed to discuss in the video (again, I have very nuanced views here). My video is about how SS encourages, misinforms, coaches minors, enables psychopaths and discourages seeking mental health treatment.
   
   
3. There have been many statements to the effect: 'why are we talking about taking down the site, when the REAL problem is the wider world that drives people to feel suicidal in the first place?'. This is an irrelevant criticism. I am not discussing the causes of suicidal ideation. I'm discussing how badly SS misinforms people who are experiencing suicidal ideation. I do not need to discuss why suicidal people feel suicidal in order to make the case that SS is doing an incredibly bad job at providing support for them. This is not rocket science, guys.

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Note that in the screencaps I posted about the KF thread, FC was mentioned several times and the thread wasn't even about her. That's how much she pisses people off, daily.

Beat me to it, I was laughing at how the very first reply to that thread was “they’re sick of her shit too” I really want to know if those users got into slapfights or got banned because they dared speak out about FC.

Why doesn't this person just do it already instead of obsessively spamming the board with this shit everyday? At least 10 posts/comments of this every single day. SN has been available since she signed up for the site, it's cheap and pretty low risk. I hate that no one can tell her to just shut the fuck up.


View attachment 4424384

Has that FC image been posted before ITT? I swear to god I’ve read that post (or at least the middle paragraph) VERBATIM before. She has to be copying and pasting this shit, I refuse to believe she’s sitting there typing this drivel repeatedly on a daily basis.

 

[pizzarat]

Has that FC image been posted before ITT? I swear to god I’ve read that post (or at least the middle paragraph) VERBATIM before. She has to be copying and pasting this shit, I refuse to believe she’s sitting there typing this drivel repeatedly on a daily basis.

No, that's a new thread. She literally posts the same shit multiple times everyday. Same-ish phrasing. Over 18,000 posts of this stuff. As you can see from the replies beneath, some people agree with her outlook. She has fans and haters.

Some people used to challenge her ideology, but it seems like they're mostly gone or quiet now.

 

[muffin123]

Beat me to it, I was laughing at how the very first reply to that thread was “they’re sick of her shit too” I really want to know if those users got into slapfights or got banned because they dared speak out about FC.


Has that FC image been posted before ITT? I swear to god I’ve read that post (or at least the middle paragraph) VERBATIM before. She has to be copying and pasting this shit, I refuse to believe she’s sitting there typing this drivel repeatedly on a daily basis.

18 030 posts, she has posted 30 new posts today then at least, so no this photo has not been posted on here before. She likes to repeat or copy and paste the same shit over and over again, all day long.

 

[pizzarat]

Tantacrul here. Can verify myself by making a public comment on my video or something similar.

So, to start, the 'assessment' by the OP of this thread is laughable. It states that my video is bullshit even though the following statements are demonstrably true:

1. The site contains statements of encouragement for anon users to kill themselves on a daily basis (breaking the supposed main rule of the site)
2. The site contains multiple threads where people ask to be DM'd the email addresses of sellers from whom they can buy poisons to kill themselves on a daily basis. They are then given this information (I experienced this personally and I purchased a method myself by following this exact procedure. It was simple.)
3. The site has instruction threads which were (until my vid came out) publicly available to anyone. They'll be made publicly available again when the hear dies down. This is also what they did when the NYT article came out.
4. The site has an instruction thread for buying SN which leads to Exit International, which requires a subscription to join. This is undeniably true
5. The site has a partners section which has been used by predators to target vulnerable young people (leading to a prosecution of one user in Glasgow, which I discuss in the video). The site has not removed the partners section in response. They think it's fine that it remains as is.
6. The site verifiably coached a 17 year old to kill himself. This kid was not the first minor the site has helped to die.
7. As mentioned by others in this thread, the main mascot of the site, who posts morbid nonsense about how everyone should die because life is a cruel mistake - is actively protected by the admin despite constant complaints from other users on the forum who rightly see these posts as toxic and dangerous, given the highly vulnerable nature of many of those on SS.
8. The site is a 'free speech' site.... unless someone dares to challenge it too effectively. If you do that, you get banned.

Take those points together and you have the substance of my video. Pretty difficult to see how this can be picked apart, since most of the points are simple statements of fact.

Another few points in response to the OP's conclusions:

1. I do not make a judgement about section 230 or whether or not free speech should be curtailed in my video. I simply point out that the debate exists. I have very nuanced feelings about this topic... but in general I am very uneasy with the idea of applying rules that limit free speech. I just felt that my own opinions were not massively relevant. I expected people to make up their own minds. The OP states that my aim is to kill section 230, which is a moronic reading.
   
   
2. I do not at any point make a judgement about personal autonomy when it comes to ending one's life. Specifically, I do not make a judgement call about whether someone has the right to take matters into their own hands or not. This is actually not really a point I needed to discuss in the video (again, I have very nuanced views here). My video is about how SS encourages, misinforms, coaches minors, enables psychopaths and discourages seeking mental health treatment.
   
   
3. There have been many statements to the effect: 'why are we talking about taking down the site, when the REAL problem is the wider world that drives people to feel suicidal in the first place?'. This is an irrelevant criticism. I am not discussing the causes of suicidal ideation. I'm discussing how badly SS misinforms people who are experiencing suicidal ideation. I do not need to discuss why suicidal people feel suicidal in order to make the case that SS is doing an incredibly bad job at providing support for them. This is not rocket science, guys.

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

Well look who's here. This thread just keeps getting better and better.

 

[frap]

Tantacrul here. Can verify myself by making a public comment on my video or something similar.

So, to start, the 'assessment' by the OP of this thread is laughable. It states that my video is bullshit even though the following statements are demonstrably true:

1. The site contains statements of encouragement for anon users to kill themselves on a daily basis (breaking the supposed main rule of the site)
2. The site contains multiple threads where people ask to be DM'd the email addresses of sellers from whom they can buy poisons to kill themselves on a daily basis. They are then given this information (I experienced this personally and I purchased a method myself by following this exact procedure. It was simple.)
3. The site has instruction threads which were (until my vid came out) publicly available to anyone. They'll be made publicly available again when the hear dies down. This is also what they did when the NYT article came out.
4. The site has an instruction thread for buying SN which leads to Exit International, which requires a subscription to join. This is undeniably true
5. The site has a partners section which has been used by predators to target vulnerable young people (leading to a prosecution of one user in Glasgow, which I discuss in the video). The site has not removed the partners section in response. They think it's fine that it remains as is.
6. The site verifiably coached a 17 year old to kill himself. This kid was not the first minor the site has helped to die.
7. As mentioned by others in this thread, the main mascot of the site, who posts morbid nonsense about how everyone should die because life is a cruel mistake - is actively protected by the admin despite constant complaints from other users on the forum who rightly see these posts as toxic and dangerous, given the highly vulnerable nature of many of those on SS.
8. The site is a 'free speech' site.... unless someone dares to challenge it too effectively. If you do that, you get banned.

Take those points together and you have the substance of my video. Pretty difficult to see how this can be picked apart, since most of the points are simple statements of fact.

Another few points in response to the OP's conclusions:

1. I do not make a judgement about section 230 or whether or not free speech should be curtailed in my video. I simply point out that the debate exists. I have very nuanced feelings about this topic... but in general I am very uneasy with the idea of applying rules that limit free speech. I just felt that my own opinions were not massively relevant. I expected people to make up their own minds. The OP states that my aim is to kill section 230, which is a moronic reading.
   
   
2. I do not at any point make a judgement about personal autonomy when it comes to ending one's life. Specifically, I do not make a judgement call about whether someone has the right to take matters into their own hands or not. This is actually not really a point I needed to discuss in the video (again, I have very nuanced views here). My video is about how SS encourages, misinforms, coaches minors, enables psychopaths and discourages seeking mental health treatment.
   
   
3. There have been many statements to the effect: 'why are we talking about taking down the site, when the REAL problem is the wider world that drives people to feel suicidal in the first place?'. This is an irrelevant criticism. I am not discussing the causes of suicidal ideation. I'm discussing how badly SS misinforms people who are experiencing suicidal ideation. I do not need to discuss why suicidal people feel suicidal in order to make the case that SS is doing an incredibly bad job at providing support for them. This is not rocket science, guys.

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

You can speak directly and privately to staff here to get verified.

 

[Mr Bubbless]

What I find interesting is that nobody seems to be allowed to tell them to shut up for some reason.

Because if you say anything mean on SS you get banned instantly because the mod team is full of overly sensitive trannies.

 

[afounder]

I have another question, a main topic on the forum is about the Suicide Wiki, it seems that at some point you decided to leave this site that was linked directly to SS. Could you explain the reason for this decision? And why don't you just hand over the site to the new administrator as well? Did maintaining the site represent a danger to the entire staff?

The wiki was a side project really. I didn't really see it as useful, as it pretty much was a copy of what was on the forum. It didn't serve a purpose

Tantacrul here. Can verify myself by making a public comment on my video or something similar.

So, to start, the 'assessment' by the OP of this thread is laughable. It states that my video is bullshit even though the following statements are demonstrably true:

Who died and made you the arbiter of truth? You told demonstrable lies about the site and the OP is actually correct in this case and it was written by a neutral party with no input from either side. When neutral observers call you out on your obvious bullshit, then something is definitely up. It's laughable that you've even showed up here considering that your video is mostly constructed of lies, some of its pure fabrication. Not only that, but you also tried to lead a crusade to get the site shut down.

Simply put you made a video on a topic that you clearly don't understand, and it just seems like you either feel guilty about what happened and felt like you needed to do something, or you are simply using suicide as an issue to grandstand on to gain clout, neither of which will get to the core of the issue of why sites like SS exist.

Now to pick apart your flimsy counterpoints:

1. The site contains statements of encouragement for anon users to kill themselves on a daily basis (breaking the supposed main rule of the site)

The site doesn't contain any statements of encouragement and I have yet to have seen anyone encourage suicide in any public thread. This is demonstrably false and is easily proven by just simply browsing the forum. When I ran the forum, I made sure that there was no encouragement of suicide. And no, well wishes don't count as "encourging suicide".

1. The site contains multiple threads where people ask to be DM'd the email addresses of sellers from whom they can buy poisons to kill themselves on a daily basis. They are then given this information (I experienced this personally and I purchased a method myself by following this exact procedure. It was simple.)

That's not the site's problem. What people do outside of the side or email is none of our business, and we've never made it our business to police outside activity. If trading happened on the site, then under my leadership we took action, but outside of that - the forum isn't a marketplace.

1. The site has instruction threads which were (until my vid came out) publicly available to anyone. They'll be made publicly available again when the hear dies down. This is also what they did when the NYT article came out.

Sure, but those same instructions are available in books on Amazon and requires no ID or verification to purchase. It being available on the forum has no bearing on anything we're talking about here today.

1. The site has an instruction thread for buying SN which leads to Exit International, which requires a subscription to join. This is undeniably true

Exit International is a separate organization that sells the PPH and has no affiliation with us whatsoever. They sell their own products and people are free to purchase them. I believe the PPH is posted for free on our website anyways, which makes this point moot. Another example of your great research skills.

1. The site has a partners section which has been used by predators to target vulnerable young people (leading to a prosecution of one user in Glasgow, which I discuss in the video). The site has not removed the partners section in response. They think it's fine that it remains as is.

Doesn't break any laws, and there are numorous warnings on the thread and in the rules regarding using it.

1. The site verifiably coached a 17 year old to kill himself. This kid was not the first minor the site has helped to die.

Your opinion, and your definition of "coached" is skewed. This is more charged language that really doesn't mean much.

1. As mentioned by others in this thread, the main mascot of the site, who posts morbid nonsense about how everyone should die because life is a cruel mistake - is actively protected by the admin despite constant complaints from other users on the forum who rightly see these posts as toxic and dangerous, given the highly vulnerable nature of many of those on SS.

This is addressed enough in the thread, no need for me to readdress it.

1. The site is a 'free speech' site.... unless someone dares to challenge it too effectively. If you do that, you get banned.

False. The site is so that suicidal people can express opinions without being judged or without being fired from their jobs or shunned by their friends for having suicidal thoughts.

Take those points together and you have the substance of my video. Pretty difficult to see how this can be picked apart, since most of the points are simple statements of fact.

I easily took it apart above.

1. I do not make a judgement about section 230 or whether or not free speech should be curtailed in my video. I simply point out that the debate exists. I have very nuanced feelings about this topic... but in general I am very uneasy with the idea of applying rules that limit free speech. I just felt that my own opinions were not massively relevant. I expected people to make up their own minds. The OP states that my aim is to kill section 230, which is a moronic reading.

You do, but you don't make that judgement directly. You complimented Kelli Wilson (founder of FixThe26) many times, and their main goal is to make changes to section 230. You got almost all of your talking points from this group as well, and it's clear from the video that you made that a good amount of the points you made are pure speculation or just plain false.

There have been many statements to the effect: 'why are we talking about taking down the site, when the REAL problem is the wider world that drives people to feel suicidal in the first place?'. This is an irrelevant criticism. I am not discussing the causes of suicidal ideation. I'm discussing how badly SS misinforms people who are experiencing suicidal ideation. I do not need to discuss why suicidal people feel suicidal in order to make the case that SS is doing an incredibly bad job at providing support for them. This is not rocket science, guys.

You say that the site is dangerous, but I would argue that the vast majority of people that visit the site do not end up killing themselves, and you made very weak arguments to why we should censor this one particular site and not others. I would argue that SS does a very good job (as a discussion forum can do) at letting people vent and preventing many people from ending their lives. Many only hear about the suicides, but there are many success stories about people leaving the forum and being better off for it. This is an anecdote, but there are many people that have reached out to me personally, thanking me for founding the site and they told me how it allowed them to move on with their lives.

It is clear that you have a savior complex and what you have done is nothing new. The NYT did it before you, and much better. You retreaded ground that was laid out before you and you inserted your own opinions and conjecture into it. Shutting down forums or websites will only cover up this problem and will NOT prevent suicides or deaths. People that are determined will dig and find information on how to end their lives, they do not need a website to tell them how to do it.

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

You are though, you wasted your time by trying to rebuke this thread. You're the only "idiot" here. You made a Youtube video to gain clout, and you did it off the back of a dead 17-year-old. You must feel very proud.

 

[Dyn]

To state that I am attacking any kind of personal freedom is nonsense. I am simply against SS because it is run by idiots who cause enormous harm to vulnerable people.

That's exactly what people said about us as they coerced the fundamental T1 web infrastructure into blackholing us.

If you think we're not going to see through your bullshit here, of all places, then you have absolutely no idea what corner of the internet you're on.