Business America is failing to prepare Gen Z to enter the workforce due to a ‘glaring’ gap in tech skills - GenZ's face when a job is more than taking selfies and attending mid morning pilates?

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Computer classes for Gen Z aren't cutting it anymore.

Many new digital tools entered the workforce recently, and while there is yet to be something as futuristic as flying cars or self-lacing shoes (as predicted in Back to the Future's depiction of 2015), there are still some new-fangled inventions that have been implemented. As remote work took the nation by storm during the early pandemic, digital tools like Zoom and Teams were used more frequently. And with investments pouring into artificial intelligence, the world of A.I. is also seeping into the workforce as automated programs like ChatGPT take off.

Less invested in than weird A.I. portraits or automated messaging systems that tell you everything is subjective: Gen Zers. While companies are rapidly changing to become more digitized and automated, the youngest working generation isn’t being trained adequately to deal with this new reality.


More than a third (37%) of Gen Zers feel their school education didn't prepare them with the digital skills they need to propel their career, according to Dell Technologies' international survey of more than 15,000 adults ages 18 to 26 across 15 countries. A majority (56%) of this generation added that they had very basic to no digital skills education.

It’s all led to some warranted skepticism regarding the future of work: Many Gen Zers are unsure what the digital economy will look like, and 33% have little to no confidence that the government’s investments in a digital future will be successful in 10 years. Forty-four percent think that schools and businesses should work together to address the digital skills gap.

Gen Z's skills gap could be why they feel 'tech shame' at work​


The findings back up past research that found nearly half of the Class of 2022 felt the top skill they were underprepared for was technical skills.

It may all come as a surprise considering that Gen Z are digital natives. That means they’re often assumed to be the most technologically proficient in the workplace and assigned the work of explaining new tools to their colleagues, which stresses Gen Z out. As many as 1 in 5 young workers feel judged for having tech issues, whereas only 1 in 25 of their older peers report feeling similarly, according to a survey from HP. These tech snafus have created feelings of “tech shame” among the generation, which sometimes stops them from participating in meetings.

What little training that’s being provided is not being distributed equitably. “There’s a glaring gap in accessibility and application of tech education resources between lower-income and affluent students—a gap that was widened by the pandemic,” Rose Stuckey Kirk, chief corporate social responsibility officer, wrote for Fortune. “And we know this gap is more than an academic or social justice issue.”

It’s evidence of the broader skills gap prevalent in the workforce right now. The problem for Gen Z is that digital communication skills are most high in-demand. But a large portion of them are taking it upon themselves to learn more; 36% plan on acquiring digital skills in order to get a new job or keep their job, Dell finds.

Considering that many companies aren’t equipped with the resources to handle the skills gap, the Gen Zers who do teach themselves digital skills will likely have a leg up in the job search over those who don’t.

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From personal interaction with young folks (early 20s) in my job it's less about lack of education but simply about "don't care" when it isn't a smartphone with TikTok on it...
 
Zoomers ended up crippled in this regard because big tech focused on ease of accessibility so hard and for so long that in the end, most zoomers have never had to do anything more difficult than tap their fingers on glass like retards at a zoo.
It's the same reason why there are similarly zoomers who cannot open a can of food if it requires use of a manual can opener.

"hurr durr my parents/teachers didn't teach me it's all their fault"

Zoomers grew up with access to the entirety of the world's knowledge in the literal palm of their hand.
And they still can't into folders or can openers.
kek
 
Zoomers ended up crippled in this regard because big tech focused on ease of accessibility so hard and for so long that in the end, most zoomers have never had to do anything more difficult than tap their fingers on glass like retards at a zoo.
It's the same reason why there are similarly zoomers who cannot open a can of food if it requires use of a manual can opener.

"hurr durr my parents/teachers didn't teach me it's all their fault"

Zoomers grew up with access to the entirety of the world's knowledge in the literal palm of their hand.
And they still can't into folders or can openers.
kek
I would like to see proof of the can opener bit, but if true, they're missing out on the finer things in life: Chilli cheese dogs.
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Seriously though what's with it and this meme of zoomers not knowing how to cook? Fucking read the instructions, buy ingredients, and cook faggots.
 
i like how you get told all these various math formulas that you NEED to remember forever but now we live in a time where you can just use a calculator for everything.
With a lot of math classes the point is more to teach people how to think as there are logical steps to it that will be used by you for the rest of your life.
 
Sperging to follow for those who give a shit.

But back in those days, computer courses taught like 1970s and 1980s levels of computer shit; stuff like how they operated (lightly) and how to navigate the operating systems, including the full suite of Microsoft Office programs (as they were called in those days, before the fucking term "app" took over), including not just the obvious Word, Excel and Powerpoint, but dabbling in Publisher and Access as well.
I think it got thrown out at some point, but my neighbor gave me a computer textbook from what I think was the late 70s that had chapters covered everything from hardware, assembly language, common (for the time) programming languages, and data security. Even if half of the stuff was over my head when I first read it (if not slightly outdated), it was still interesting and did more to provide an overview of computer science than what we see now where security and the aforementioned concepts are little more than an afterthought.

A lot of people in my previous jobs have no idea there is even such a thing as free software like Libre Office, Krita, VLC, etc.
I fucking love libre office.
I started using OpenOffice because MS Office got too pricey for the average user, and I ultimately switched to LibreOffice. I like the latter better apart from one odd quirk with playing sound files. Now that MS is discouraging users from using the older (and better) versions of Office, I plan to switch over to LibreOffice as much as possible moving forward.

I didn't like being forced to take 1-unit classes in University for basic Microsoft Office programs, but damn if it's not shit that I use every day.
I've recently gone back to college and one of the required classes is an Excel class. Everything they're teaching is something I learned in my BCIS classes in middle and high school, but the younger students are having an incredibly difficult time with the class.
During my career change, I had to take a required course in Office as a whole and then one specifically focused on Excel. The latter proved to be useful in my current work because a number of the basic concepts I learned is stuff I now do regularly.

Related to @Kit Marz 's comment, the Excel class was as much about following written directions as it was learning Excel. The assignments were easy enough that one could easily get all As, but so many of my younger classmates struggled with following written directions no matter how well they understood the Excel concepts.

old social media and blogs and other stuff let you use custom HTML and CSS to decorate your personal page, which for a lot of people was their first foray into web tech, and they jumped at the opportunity because it was fun and interesting and allowed you to make some really creative stuff.
I knew people who blew their friends away simply by adding custom CSS to their MySpace profiles -- something that went away when the platform tried to keep itself relevant by emulating FaceBook.

This article is propaganda promoting a lie that we have a tech skills shortage. The implication is that we need to import millions of Indians to address the "skills gap", even though their technical skills are so poor that a TikTok-addicted zoomer looks like Linus Torvalds in comparison.
Big Tech wanting more H1-B imports has been a thing since the late 90's. I recall tech magazine articles at that time featuring authors who insisted it was the only way to fill all the IT openings going unfilled. This is notwithstanding the posts here and in other threads how coders from Southeast Asian seem focused on code quantity over quality. One getting what they pay for certainly rings true, and it's why some of my former IT peers have also left the field.

Everything feels locked down these days - you get a system and it’s a black box. You can’t play with it or tinker with it.
Although I understand the need for corporate security in the working world, it sucks when the IT/Secruity department won't approve freeware utilities that would be useful on a daily basis for no other reason than the misguided idea that freeware is somehow an inherent security risk.

how the fuck does this basic shit happen
Testing and debugging - especially for boundary cases such as this - is a lost art, unfortunately. I was once offered a job simply because I was the only candidate able to successfully debug an error message in sample code and figure out a string of 60 characters was trying to be saved in a field with a 50-character limit. I declined the offer because I didn't want to work somewhere where people didn't know how to fix the simplest of problems. It also didn't help that the interviewer admitted the company didn't offer any benefits and their #1 customer was an entity that was about to file for bankruptcy.

This lack of ability to do anything but interact with apps highlights something that’s been nagging at me- as time goes on the west is degenerating into a cargo cult that doesn’t understand how anything works.
People are so used to pushing a button, clicking a mouse, or tapping on a screen to get instant results, they have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, nor can hey do a process manually when the technology is down or unavailable for whatever reason.

They're looking for something profound and technical when the problem is more often something as trivial as "you named your file wrong."
It also doesn't help when error messages so cryptic they offer no clue about what happened or wha needs to be done to recover. At my current job, we had issues opening a saved file and the error was a generic "cannot open this file" type of message. It turned out the full path name exceeded 255 characters when the file was moved to its final directory, but the lack of a helpful error message meant we wasted time trying to figure out what happened through trial and error and dumb luck.

As for the OP, I can't help wondering how much of this is schools not teaching the right stuff and how much is students who don't want to learn because they see online influencers be successful for doing nothing and feel they should get paid for doing nothing as well.
 
You just contributed to explaining why zoomers are tech dummies and then say it's because they just don't pay attention or care to learn.
How do you think I learned?

COMPUTE! magazine, checking out books from the library, going to the book stores near the college and buying old textbooks.

The Apple II+ was big in schools back then.

I cared to learn.

They have the SUM TOTAL OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE on their fucking phones, one fat finger fumble away.

So, while the article reads like a reason to import more curry-coders, IF there is a problem, it's multiple:

Schools not teaching anything more than "It's a magic box, now get out your phones and Google how to turn it on!"
Outrageous demands from HR
Companies would rather import curry-coders than hire a fucking American
Unwillingness to learn or caring to learn
Hostile work environments

It's not a single source, it's a broad spectrum failure that would require a broad spectrum repair.
 
Just fix it techno-Sparta style.

"Sorry Timmy, I'm not unblocking Tiktok on the router until you finish your stage 1 Gentoo install."
If I have any kids, they're going to resent me and my policy of not having any IoT or other devices running proprietary software on my network. On the bright side, it'll set them up for a career in IT or Cybersecurity.
 
How do you think I learned?

COMPUTE! magazine, checking out books from the library, going to the book stores near the college and buying old textbooks.

The Apple II+ was big in schools back then.

I cared to learn.

They have the SUM TOTAL OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE on their fucking phones, one fat finger fumble away.

So, while the article reads like a reason to import more curry-coders, IF there is a problem, it's multiple:

Schools not teaching anything more than "It's a magic box, now get out your phones and Google how to turn it on!"
Outrageous demands from HR
Companies would rather import curry-coders than hire a fucking American
Unwillingness to learn or caring to learn
Hostile work environments

It's not a single source, it's a broad spectrum failure that would require a broad spectrum repair.
I get your point but you were also forced to learn because computers weren't streamlined at all back then. They don't need to learn to be able to play games, watch videos, share files, chat with friends, get online or do anything that used to be technical and required reading the manual. They have zero motivation to learn how a computer works because they don't need to, if it breaks they turn it off and on again or get a new device.

I would also detach this issue from "coding" as that is still an unfortunately high bar for most people to reach even though it's easier than ever to get into.
 
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sorry we were never properly taught how to use tech by confused boomers or jobless millenials

edit: irresponsible old people mad at words
Blame your parents, teach yourself, or start flossing and dabbing in the unemployment line you zoomie faggot.
I imagine Excel is probably really tedious until you have a good use case for it. I think I first used it in a science class to make a graph or something, without really understanding what was going on. Later on I wanted to make a little profit calculator for my flipping business and that's when I really started getting into it.

Excel is good shit. Everybody in a white collar company has it and knows how to use it to some extent, so it's the most used program. We keep trying to push things like PowerBI but everybody always goes back to Excel just because everybody already uses it. And it's great for most tasks.

Also INDEX MATCH > VLOOKUP
I think the preference for INDEX MATCH comes in part from a desire to understand why the formula does what it does. A handful of times I've had to actually search on both axes on a table, and when I nested two MATCH functions in there I swear I came in my pants.
Zoomers ended up crippled in this regard because big tech focused on ease of accessibility so hard and for so long that in the end, most zoomers have never had to do anything more difficult than tap their fingers on glass like retards at a zoo.
It's the same reason why there are similarly zoomers who cannot open a can of food if it requires use of a manual can opener.

"hurr durr my parents/teachers didn't teach me it's all their fault"

Zoomers grew up with access to the entirety of the world's knowledge in the literal palm of their hand.
And they still can't into folders or can openers.
kek
I'll give them half a pass and say it's half their parents' fault. If you throw your retard kid a smartphone their entire developing life, of course they'll end up retarded. Still, at some point it's on you to make something of yourself. I'm so sick of hearing zoomers and younger millennials complain they weren't handed the tools to succeed, when they really mean they expected to be given all the answers to life on a silver platter. I don't know, find Jesus you nigger (spoiler, he lives in an Access database).
 
Just a matter of motivation and effort. Many Zoomers are motivated and make the effort to learn. Many other Zoomers are not motivated, expect to have everything in life handed to them. Seeing this now with the recent wave of tech layoffs, aren't we. The lazy Zoomers forgot someone's always keeping an eye on what they are doing, or not doing. Maybe the next time they get a job, if they get a job, these Zoomers will put out a fucking effort.
 
Zoomers can't learn basic skills in the information age and they still think they're the most brilliant and enlightened generation who's failing because they're being kept down by the boomers and gen x. I'm pretty sure if their parents actually tried to force them to learn they'd accuse them of child abuse. Maybe if they complain enough on tiktok they can cancel their impending poverty and early demise.
 
The smart kids will figure it out. They’ll just google it or find a video tutorial on YouTube. If they’re incapable of that.. I have no idea how to help them.

you tell them "google this or look for a tutorial video on youtube." I do this instead of teaching basic study skills and it's pretty effective.

there should be a term for this, the simple action that a knowledgeable person can take to make the life of an ignorant dumbass easier, that it very rarely occurs to the knowledgeable person to do, because they're not an ignorant dumbass.
 
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I'm leaving a situation where I had livein tech support and after 20 years I have to figure out how to use computers and my solution of looking sad until someone else fixes the problem is too slow.

Can people on this thread direct me to basic computer education please?
Libre Office is a free Microsoft Office alternative for Windows, Linux, and MacOS.

Libre Office Writer = Microsoft Word
Libre Office Calc = Microsoft Excel
Libre Office Impress = Microsoft Powerpoint


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You can adjust Libre Office to look the same as Microsoft Office. Open any of the Libre Office programs, click View, click User Interface, and choose whichever style you prefer.

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Microsoft Office 2007 to Present style
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Here is an instruction manual on how to use.

If you don't have space on your computer or for some reason still use Google products, Google "workspace" office suite is available free online for account holders. Here is a video guide for beginners:

 
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Also to unfairly append and dogpile. "But I was never taught how to do anything! POOR ME!" Yeah welcome to the fucking club? If I wanted to know something I had to look it up. When webcrawler was the king and not google, before google became a neutered seo platform and curated walled garden itself. My family had fuck all idea what a registry did, my friends had no clue how to safely cook meat. I had to find that out for myself because I wanted to know how to do it.

The lack of curiosity and the embracing of being OKAY with ignorance being your default if it's not beaten into your skull is fucking shameful.
 
Libre Office is a free Microsoft Office alternative for Windows, Linux, and MacOS.

Libre Office Writer = Microsoft Word
Libre Office Calc = Microsoft Excel
Libre Office Impress = Microsoft Powerpoint

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You can adjust Libre Office to look the same as Microsoft Office. Open any of the Libre Office programs, click View, click User Interface, and choose whichever style you prefer.

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Microsoft Office 2007 to Present style
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Here is an instruction manual on how to use.

If you don't have space on your computer or for some reason still use Google products, Google "workspace" office suite is available free online for account holders. Here is a video guide for beginners:

thank you that's really helpful!
 
He's also going around giving mean stickers to anyone that disagrees. I was dumb (WELL DUUUUUH) and I see you got MATI. That kind of concise argument has made me change my mind and agree this poor baby did nothing wrong and it's all the worlds fault.
imagine being pissed off at your own inadequacies and retaliating by giving people mean stickers on a fucking website.
just fucking imagine, frens

and the zoomer clicked the "like" button and selected the "dumb" icon
"Haha! That'll show em! Boy that was hard work, time for my tiktoks."
 
imagine being pissed off at your own inadequacies and retaliating by giving people mean stickers on a fucking website.
just fucking imagine, frens

and the zoomer clicked the "like" button and selected the "dumb" icon
"Haha! That'll show em! Boy that was hard work, time for my tiktoks."
Not to mention I know I'm a fucking idiot, all you're doing is reminding me.
 
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