That's A Rapp
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I don't feel sorry for Chelsea, her ex's or goober gobblers. They're all pathetic pieces of garbage.
I'm just sitting here with popcorn, enjoying the failures and drama on both sides.
Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.
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I'm just sitting here with popcorn, enjoying the failures and drama on both sides.
Richard Stabone
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Van Valkenburg comes from old money. For a lot of these trust-fund kiddies, the monthly patreon revenue isn't a big source of income relative to what they are already getting, it's just a numerical index of how high they rank in the SJW/tranny/indie game/hipster hierarchy. If I remember correctly, the hourly rates of Van Valkenburg's legal team probably had to be paid out of pocket, I dont think the patreon would have been enough to cover it. Someone linked to the law office's website and found starting rate at something like hundreds of dollars an hour.
H3LLH4MM3R666
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She tweeted today that her council was working pro bono, no idea who.
I don't know where the idea that her family is rich comes from, aside from having a weird name?
That's A Rapp
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It was several years ago when she was living in Canada. I can pm you the forum where they were made.
MiloWuCollusion
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Some Eron lawyers are actually pro bono:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rs/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
You are not going to see this stuff in NeoGaf
Richard Stabone
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I think people assumed she came from money because usually perpetually unemployed people need someone to foot the bill.
Prince Omicron
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"The case was ruled in favor of Quinn"???
WTF, the case wasn't heard on the grounds it was moot...moot as in there isn't any standing to rule on.
That's a fuckload and a half different that ruled in favor. They didn't hear the case.
It's not all that unusual for big conlaw issues to not get advisory style opinions...spme of that goes back to the judiciary not getting too activist (and essentially making de facto legislation)
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"I totally lost in every way, and every court is ordered to ignore the bullshit order I got temporarily, and on top of that, future courts are advised to not do shit like shit like this in the future."
>oh but i totally won
>even though I obviously lost
SJW logic. She needs to suck at least another five dicks from another five guys.
>oh but i totally won
>even though I obviously lost
SJW logic. She needs to suck at least another five dicks from another five guys.
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The one that really freaks me out about Zoe Quinn was when she admitted, well maybe more bragged, that she flat out falsifies her personal history when giving blood.
She harps on consent and informed consent and all that - but then she takes that out at the knees and makes it so a blood recipient can't make informed consent on what goes into their body.
pretty rapey really
She harps on consent and informed consent and all that - but then she takes that out at the knees and makes it so a blood recipient can't make informed consent on what goes into their body.
pretty rapey really
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According to links in old Gaymergate thread, Van Valkenburg hired law firm of Wilmer Hale for duration of the legal tussle
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/40us3u/yo_legal_update/
According to this link from Jaimas, Wilmer Hale rates start at 750 USD per hour
https://archive.is/NOgSc
I think that will deplete a patreon revenue very quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/40us3u/yo_legal_update/
According to this link from Jaimas, Wilmer Hale rates start at 750 USD per hour
https://archive.is/NOgSc
I think that will deplete a patreon revenue very quickly.
Stereotypical Badger
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Why wasn't she allowed to donate blood? All those tattoos? Or does she sleep with bisexual men?
Fun fact: before a reliable HIV test became available your chances of getting AIDS from a blood transfusion in the United States was 1/100
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Yes, ever since people started digging on her, no one could understand how she simply continued to get away with things. I mean she organized a walk out on a multi-million dollar "Battle of the Nerds" style Game show for Game creators. Millions were lost in promotional spending, the whole thing was scrapped. She should have been sued into non-existence by this point.
http://archive.is/jiMdS
But somehow miraculously, all those angry corporations simply gave up and went home. Why? HOW? WHOOOOOOOOOOooooo
H3LLH4MM3R666
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Yes and yes. Contrary to popular belief individual donations aren't screened, they're put into a batch of identical blood types which is then tested. One bad donation ruins the entire batch.
But signalling is important so she lied and encouraged others to do so.
Originally, the standard disclosure contract they gave her to sign said that they could use and edit footage how they see fit without approval. She demanded it be changed so that no individual piece of footage could be used without her explicit given consent
Then she got into fights with a bunch of people. Out of conciliation, they fired the guy who asked a gender-related question. That was on day two. On day three by all accounts nothing much happened but at the end she wouldn't approve of the gamejam using ANY footage of her. Two other contestents said that they wouldn't consent if Zoe wouldn't. The apparent reason was that she didn't want to reward an organization that would hire the sexist producer that they fired the day earlier just for her. You can read Kotaku journalist Nathan Grayson's writeup of it. Yes that's a familiar name
So a couple hundred grand went down the toilet. Zoe Quinn then apparently enjoyed the experience so much she wanted to start her own gamejam. That was RebelJam, which Grayson promoted, the donation page opened, a bunch of money was collected and absolutely nothing happened. Not even updates. Ask about it, she will block you.
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Regardless of how one feels about GG, Eron, or Quinn, the drama that come from this is to be enjoyed, especially since she has white knights that would sperg on how she dindu nuffin wrong.
Despite what the woman with the PhD says, it's going to be futile when Quinn's white knights deny the facts and slap whatever -phobic tag they want.
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Chelsea's blog post: http://archive.is/geymF
I won.
Oh boy it’s another totally unedited blog post about my legal proceedings because apparently I don’t learn!
Last time I wrote about my legal entanglement with Eron Gjoni, the man who started GamerGate after I walked away from him, it was after asking the DA to drop the criminal harassment charges that the state wanted to bring against him.
I touched on the ongoing appeals process for the restraining order, and how it ironically tied me to my abuser even more, and became another tool for him to control my life and send the mob after me. The detective on my case had warned me that this might be an outcome with someone as chronically abusive as he is. While I had successfully persuaded the DA to drop criminal charges because the courts involvement was making everything worse, his appeal was still going. Despite his flat out refusal to abide by it (he actually started actively siccing people on my partner at the time immediately afterward), and despite my move to vacate my own restraining order to get him to finally fuck off, he was determined to milk it for everything he could - both the attention from GamerGate, the renewed harassment against me and my family, and the money he was soliciting.
What this meant for me is that for the last year or so, despite having relocated and completely reorganized my life to keep him and his new friends away from me, I’d have to deal with the legal proceedings. This essentially turned this man I had spent two years trying to get away from into a pop-up ad in my life. This is really bad news for someone with PTSD who has to take pills to stop having nightmares about their abuser. It constantly interrupted any kind of recovery or closure I could make for myself, and a call from a lawyer about some new bullshit he was pulling, or a flood of gross links to his diatribes on Kotaku in Action from his new best friends in my mentions would hamstring whatever I was trying to do. Just before I had to take the stage at XOXO, I had to talk with my lawyers about asinine legal moves that he was pulling. I was on the other side of the country and I still couldn’t get away from him.
I’ve been in a holding pattern since the appeals court heard oral arguments on a restraining order that had not only been destroyed, but would have already expired on it’s own months prior. My pro-bono counsel was optimistic, since the courts seemed to see that my ex was using them as a talking point since he had long since had any legal relief they could have granted him. I was told to expect a phone call, probably, in the next 3 months, though sometimes courts take longer. I’ve been holding my breath ever since.
The good news is that it’s finally over. The courts ruled that I acted within my rights, and dismissed his appeal as moot. I had gone into this asking that the court drop this and let me move on with my life, and they reassured my legal right to do so. My ex wanted to use me to set first amendment case law - what happened was a ruling that reassured the rights of domestic violence survivors to modify and terminate their restraining orders if they’re causing more harm than good. This was the outcome I wanted - not just for myself, but for anyone else that’s tried whatever they could to get away from their abuser without fully realizing how the legal system might make everything worse.
Quoth the court:
“We agree with Quinn’s argument that this rule does not apply in the sui generis context of c. 209A abuse prevention orders. Pursuant to statute, an abuse prevention order that has been issued can be modified “at any subsequent time.” … This provision serves to protect victims of abuse by allowing them to tailor the terms of abuse prevention orders as (often rapidly) developing circumstances may warrant… “A victim of [domestic] abuse is in the best position to decide what course of action will provide more safety. At a given time, an abuse prevention order might exacerbate the plaintiff’s danger”. With the parties having a recognized statutory right to seek modification of existing orders, it follows that a pending appeal of a 209A order does not deprive the trial court of its ability to modify the order.”
The courts found the “deluge of harassment” to be “uncontested”, that despite my ex’s constant bullshit claims “nothing in the record suggests that Quinn committed a fraud on the court”, and that my ex still has to obey court orders even if he doesn’t agree with them.
I’ve uploaded the court’s opinion here. It’s not too heavy on the legalese, and has a pretty good tl;dr of this last of the legal battles.
Naturally, his fan club is trying to spin this as a win because of a single footnote that lower courts should generally care about free speech, despite the court stating that the entire appeal is moot. I find my ex and his ilk clinging to a single footnote as a victory in a 12 page document detailing his complete failure to be nothing more an apt metaphor for his role in the last two years.
They’re trying to claim it a a loss because I’m choosing to walk away from a legal battle that hasn’t protected me, but an end to this is all I’ve ever wanted from the beginning.
I cut contact with Eron because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he launched GamerGate. I didn’t retaliate against him because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he invaded every digital space that I occupied to spread his hate & yell at my friends and fans. I got a restraining order because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he used it to solicit funds from GamerGate while promising them more nonsense about me while “joking” in their raid IRCs about breaking into my house while I couldn’t go home. I dropped charges and gave up on having to see or hear him ever again because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, and he doubled down in spite of that.
Now that the courts have said “no thank you”, I’m hoping that this is finally the end, and that maybe we *both* can move on with our lives. I’m hoping that I finally have the abusive creep out of my life, even if it won’t undox my friends and family, cure my ptsd, undo the harm caused to my friends and the industry, or fix the fact that to this day, strangers still claim that I fucked a writer at a press outlet that I *already had written for* simply to obtain coverage (that never existed) of a free game about mental health.
But it’s a pretty fuckin big milestone in the healing process.
By all signs, this marks the end of nearly two years of having to bag and tag my ex’s abuse against me for courts, judges, and law enforcement officers who have a loose understanding (at best) of what they’d even be looking at, and a seeming lack of resources to obtain any of that themselves. I don’t have to plan my life around court dates anymore, or get calls about what new stunt the man who ruined my life is pulling this time that I absolutely have to respond to or face legal repercussions. That alone is a tremendous weight off my shoulders. The Abusive Ex Popup Ad feature on my life is hopefully disabled - or at least this aspect of it is. His abuse is still a perpetual motion machine, and the threats and harassment is still the background noise of my life and likely always will be. I still have a way to go before I’m what I’d consider out of the woods, both in terms of unfucking my personal situation, healing the mental and emotional scars the last two years have left, and fully being able to talk about GamerGate in a past tense way. Creep Throat can still file for additional appeals, and after the last two years I’m not going to assume anything is impossible.
I can’t unfuck the last two years, not for me or anyone else he’s hurt. But this is at least one win. This is regaining control over my life and being able to finally ignore bargain bin Kilgrave. This is me being able to joke about how shitty my ex is without being afraid of how his lawyers will use it to justify what he’s done to me as they have previously. This is reaffirming the rights of domestic violence victims to walk the fuck away when they choose to. This means more energy for Crash Override and my ridiculous comedy games and the people I love.
Finally, I can move on from this ridiculous legal battle and focus on my energy on my ridiculous unicorn smut games.
What more could I possibly want?
Oh boy it’s another totally unedited blog post about my legal proceedings because apparently I don’t learn!
Last time I wrote about my legal entanglement with Eron Gjoni, the man who started GamerGate after I walked away from him, it was after asking the DA to drop the criminal harassment charges that the state wanted to bring against him.
I touched on the ongoing appeals process for the restraining order, and how it ironically tied me to my abuser even more, and became another tool for him to control my life and send the mob after me. The detective on my case had warned me that this might be an outcome with someone as chronically abusive as he is. While I had successfully persuaded the DA to drop criminal charges because the courts involvement was making everything worse, his appeal was still going. Despite his flat out refusal to abide by it (he actually started actively siccing people on my partner at the time immediately afterward), and despite my move to vacate my own restraining order to get him to finally fuck off, he was determined to milk it for everything he could - both the attention from GamerGate, the renewed harassment against me and my family, and the money he was soliciting.
What this meant for me is that for the last year or so, despite having relocated and completely reorganized my life to keep him and his new friends away from me, I’d have to deal with the legal proceedings. This essentially turned this man I had spent two years trying to get away from into a pop-up ad in my life. This is really bad news for someone with PTSD who has to take pills to stop having nightmares about their abuser. It constantly interrupted any kind of recovery or closure I could make for myself, and a call from a lawyer about some new bullshit he was pulling, or a flood of gross links to his diatribes on Kotaku in Action from his new best friends in my mentions would hamstring whatever I was trying to do. Just before I had to take the stage at XOXO, I had to talk with my lawyers about asinine legal moves that he was pulling. I was on the other side of the country and I still couldn’t get away from him.
I’ve been in a holding pattern since the appeals court heard oral arguments on a restraining order that had not only been destroyed, but would have already expired on it’s own months prior. My pro-bono counsel was optimistic, since the courts seemed to see that my ex was using them as a talking point since he had long since had any legal relief they could have granted him. I was told to expect a phone call, probably, in the next 3 months, though sometimes courts take longer. I’ve been holding my breath ever since.
The good news is that it’s finally over. The courts ruled that I acted within my rights, and dismissed his appeal as moot. I had gone into this asking that the court drop this and let me move on with my life, and they reassured my legal right to do so. My ex wanted to use me to set first amendment case law - what happened was a ruling that reassured the rights of domestic violence survivors to modify and terminate their restraining orders if they’re causing more harm than good. This was the outcome I wanted - not just for myself, but for anyone else that’s tried whatever they could to get away from their abuser without fully realizing how the legal system might make everything worse.
Quoth the court:
“We agree with Quinn’s argument that this rule does not apply in the sui generis context of c. 209A abuse prevention orders. Pursuant to statute, an abuse prevention order that has been issued can be modified “at any subsequent time.” … This provision serves to protect victims of abuse by allowing them to tailor the terms of abuse prevention orders as (often rapidly) developing circumstances may warrant… “A victim of [domestic] abuse is in the best position to decide what course of action will provide more safety. At a given time, an abuse prevention order might exacerbate the plaintiff’s danger”. With the parties having a recognized statutory right to seek modification of existing orders, it follows that a pending appeal of a 209A order does not deprive the trial court of its ability to modify the order.”
The courts found the “deluge of harassment” to be “uncontested”, that despite my ex’s constant bullshit claims “nothing in the record suggests that Quinn committed a fraud on the court”, and that my ex still has to obey court orders even if he doesn’t agree with them.
I’ve uploaded the court’s opinion here. It’s not too heavy on the legalese, and has a pretty good tl;dr of this last of the legal battles.
Naturally, his fan club is trying to spin this as a win because of a single footnote that lower courts should generally care about free speech, despite the court stating that the entire appeal is moot. I find my ex and his ilk clinging to a single footnote as a victory in a 12 page document detailing his complete failure to be nothing more an apt metaphor for his role in the last two years.
They’re trying to claim it a a loss because I’m choosing to walk away from a legal battle that hasn’t protected me, but an end to this is all I’ve ever wanted from the beginning.
I cut contact with Eron because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he launched GamerGate. I didn’t retaliate against him because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he invaded every digital space that I occupied to spread his hate & yell at my friends and fans. I got a restraining order because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, so he used it to solicit funds from GamerGate while promising them more nonsense about me while “joking” in their raid IRCs about breaking into my house while I couldn’t go home. I dropped charges and gave up on having to see or hear him ever again because I wanted an abusive creep out of my life, and he doubled down in spite of that.
Now that the courts have said “no thank you”, I’m hoping that this is finally the end, and that maybe we *both* can move on with our lives. I’m hoping that I finally have the abusive creep out of my life, even if it won’t undox my friends and family, cure my ptsd, undo the harm caused to my friends and the industry, or fix the fact that to this day, strangers still claim that I fucked a writer at a press outlet that I *already had written for* simply to obtain coverage (that never existed) of a free game about mental health.
But it’s a pretty fuckin big milestone in the healing process.
By all signs, this marks the end of nearly two years of having to bag and tag my ex’s abuse against me for courts, judges, and law enforcement officers who have a loose understanding (at best) of what they’d even be looking at, and a seeming lack of resources to obtain any of that themselves. I don’t have to plan my life around court dates anymore, or get calls about what new stunt the man who ruined my life is pulling this time that I absolutely have to respond to or face legal repercussions. That alone is a tremendous weight off my shoulders. The Abusive Ex Popup Ad feature on my life is hopefully disabled - or at least this aspect of it is. His abuse is still a perpetual motion machine, and the threats and harassment is still the background noise of my life and likely always will be. I still have a way to go before I’m what I’d consider out of the woods, both in terms of unfucking my personal situation, healing the mental and emotional scars the last two years have left, and fully being able to talk about GamerGate in a past tense way. Creep Throat can still file for additional appeals, and after the last two years I’m not going to assume anything is impossible.
I can’t unfuck the last two years, not for me or anyone else he’s hurt. But this is at least one win. This is regaining control over my life and being able to finally ignore bargain bin Kilgrave. This is me being able to joke about how shitty my ex is without being afraid of how his lawyers will use it to justify what he’s done to me as they have previously. This is reaffirming the rights of domestic violence victims to walk the fuck away when they choose to. This means more energy for Crash Override and my ridiculous comedy games and the people I love.
Finally, I can move on from this ridiculous legal battle and focus on my energy on my ridiculous unicorn smut games.
What more could I possibly want?
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Crash Override is about as dead as Crash Wu.