Undertale

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A game about killing darkners or sparring them, not feeding them girlpills or ripping off their genitals.
Considering how many people on the subreddit are obsessed with correcting people who call Kris a he or a she, it shouldn't surprise you. They see Kris as a serious extension of themselves, so when you don't call Kris 'they', they take it very personally and think you are misgendering them.

After all, the world revolves around theybies on Reddit.
 
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Characters do call Kris a they/them in-game so it's canon. Though a lot of people, me included, just assumed that Kris was male, me mostly due to ESL complications (there's no they/them pronouns in Korean).

Seething at innocuous ESLs and clueless people just because you mistake Kris for a male and not an enby is a whole another story though.

Edit: Oh I'm retarded you were talking about bug fables. But what I said can also be realistically applied to Deltarune to be honest
What is ESL?
 
This just in from TCRF. A mockup of Noelle's room in The Queen's palace has been found.
It's identical to her current one except that it has pills on the tables. (The ferris wheel is also different but that's not important)
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Anyway, Troon's are doing the usual and proclaiming that the dream normal pills are horsepiss.
 
This just in from TCRF. A mockup of Noelle's room in The Queen's palace has been found.
It's identical to her current one except that it has pills on the tables. (The ferris wheel is also different but that's not important)
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Anyway, Troon's are doing the usual and proclaiming that the dream normal pills are horsepiss.
This smells like a (literal) gay op to me. It's been a year since Chapter 2 came out and was completely datamined for stuff, and you tell me this image is only getting discovered now? Not to mention that troonshine on a desk is the same way the protag from Celeste was revealed to be a tranny, and that most of the jannies on TCRF are trannies themselves, so if one of them tried to pass it around as true it wouldn't surprise me (although, it also wouldn't surprise me if Toby actually ends up making Noelle a tranny)
 
This just in from TCRF. A mockup of Noelle's room in The Queen's palace has been found.
It's identical to her current one except that it has pills on the tables. (The ferris wheel is also different but that's not important)
View attachment 4397113

Anyway, Troon's are doing the usual and proclaiming that the dream normal pills are horsepiss.
Seems more likely they’d be something like medication, possibly for anxiety or something like that. I assume most people without brain rot would think so.
 
Seems more likely they’d be something like medication, possibly for anxiety or something like that. I assume most people without brain rot would think so.
Undertale was woke and I assume Deltarune is too, so I don't know how anyone could be surprised. At all.
 
I mean, people were iffy on the SusieXNoelle ship when it was a fandom push and that dude still made it canon. Yeah, I doubt he's curtailing to pressure from anywhere right now.
I'm confused, people wanted it and he did it despite it dragging the story down, how is that not curtailing to pressure?
 
I'm confused, people wanted it and he did it despite it dragging the story down, how is that not curtailing to pressure?
How do you know that he did because of the fandom? This isn't the first time that he's had a lesbian relationship in a game.
 
This. Undertale is extremely woke. Nothing would surprise me.
The undertale community is extremely woke due to mainly consisting of tumblrinxs, terminal redditors, troons and other faggots. Unless I'm forgetting something the game itself isn't really what I'd call woke, it has a few androgynous and gay characters in it but it's not like it goes out of its way to slap you in the face with that shit. Maybe by 2015 standards it was "progressive" but by today it's hardly notable.
 
The undertale community is extremely woke due to mainly consisting of tumblrinxs, terminal redditors, troons and other faggots. Unless I'm forgetting something the game itself isn't really what I'd call woke, it has a few androgynous and gay characters in it but it's not like it goes out of its way to slap you in the face with that shit. Maybe by 2015 standards it was "progressive" but by today it's hardly notable.
Undertale inherited the homestuck community, which was tumblr's biggest obsession. I'd say it is pretty woke considering it's very preachy about it's 'love not war' message and most if not all of the romantic relationships depicted in it are gay. Judging by Deltarune Toby is a massive yuri fag, so it's not top surprising.

It may not be very woke by today's standards but I refuse to let that Overton window shift any further just because the game doesn't have custom pronouns and 'top surgery scars'. Woke is woke.
 
Undertale inherited the homestuck community, which was tumblr's biggest obsession. I'd say it is pretty woke considering it's very preachy about it's 'love not war' message and most if not all of the romantic relationships depicted in it are gay. Judging by Deltarune Toby is a massive yuri fag, so it's not top surprising.

It may not be very woke by today's standards but I refuse to let that Overton window shift any further just because the game doesn't have custom pronouns and 'top surgery scars'. Woke is woke.
"Make love not war" is woke? And here I thought that was just a message from people that opposed war between countries that existed since the 1960s.

Undertale only had two gay relationships, if I remember correctly, and also mettaton may or may not being a allegory for Transgenderism. It wasn't that bad.
 
"Make love not war" is woke? And here I thought that was just a message from people that opposed war between countries that existed since the 1960s.

Undertale only had two gay relationships, if I remember correctly, and also mettaton may or may not being a allegory for Transgenderism. It wasn't that bad.
It is when "make love not war" is extrapolated to "defending yourself is bad mmmmkay?"

There are exactly three relationships depicted in Undertale IIRC. One is a profoundly broken hetero marriage and two are gay, one of which is required that you set up for the best ending even though the character is a gigantic piece of shit who doesn't deserve it. And yes, Mettaton was a clear tranny allegory. It was pretty fucking woke, man.
 
It is when "make love not war" is extrapolated to "defending yourself is bad mmmmkay?"
Still wouldn't consider that woke. Just a bad take at a story about peace. Like I said before, Undertale was Toby's first game (one that he mostly made by himself), the game not being narratively sound was to be expected.
There are exactly three relationships depicted in Undertale IIRC. One is a profoundly broken hetero marriage and two are gay, one of which is required that you set up for the best ending even though the character is a gigantic piece of shit who doesn't deserve it. And yes, Mettaton was a clear tranny allegory. It was pretty fucking woke, man.
Toriel is hinted at hooking up with Sans, so it's not like hetero relationships was put in a bad light. Hell, Toriel and Asgore broke off because Asgore was killing children to free their race not because she suddenly wasn't happy with him because "men icky" or something ridiculous like that (they had a child for crying out loud).

I won't comment on Alphys and Undyne, but the other gay relationship was two random guardsmen (in a one-off battle where you get the two to confess their feelings in a pretty comedic way). It'd be one thing if it was everywhere, but that's two characters and two enemies. And Mettaton's trans allegory is something you would have to go out of your way to actually look into in-game.

I'd even argue that Undertale isn't woke at all. The "woke" elements aren't the main focus of the game and, even then, they're minor and played (mostly) straight without being obnoxious. As it should.
 
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It is when "make love not war" is extrapolated to "defending yourself is bad mmmmkay?"
I see this point brought up continuously, but it's absolutely to be expected Toby's first solo venture wasn't structurally sound all the way through.
Though what I never see brought up is the fact that this was already addressed in Deltarune's first chapter.

Context: At the end of Chapter 1, the final boss fight is against the King of the first dark world. Ralsei (The party member apologizing) attempts a pacifist approach even after he threatens to kill another character, Lancer. This is shown to have been the wrong move and he apologizes for it. This is then contrasted with Susie, another party member, who has been using a violent approach throughout the chapter, admitting the best way to go about things is a mix of both approaches depending on the situation.

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I think it's likely that Toby agrees with this criticism even, to an extent, despite what the tumblr fanbase will tell you.
 
I file Undertaleas 90s 2000s woke. As in, it has a lot of diversity shit but it doesn't beat you with a hamner about it. I mean, lets not kid ourselves, it's not a fucking coincedence that the game has the fandom it has. But at the same time, it just shows it's thing and keeps on trucking. Dinomengele didn't look at the screen and explain how being queer would be oh so hard for fishwaifu and her.

Sussie didn't look at the screen and go "it's hard being a lesbian sheboon" nor did she kick Ralseis ass when it was revealed she was a white sheep instead of black while accusing him of being in black face.

Far from it. That's why it's a product I can enjoy even though I obviously see the flags. You can like something and recognize it has woke shit in it.
 
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