Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Got Milk!]

I would not be surprised in the least if Ukraine comes out of this losing certain sections of it's western border to Poland. "Lvov is rightful Polish clay" etc.

I was thinking more like...

"Well we financed you faggots and you lost. You have no way to repay EU/US monetarily because your economy is fucked. However, we are prepared to trade a few oblasts to call it even."

Or just wait until they can't repay a loan and risk default. Then pay it off on exchange for land. They won't exactly be in a negotiating position at that point.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

That would honestly be the most hilarious ending to the war. Ukraine ends up completely annexed, but it's by Poland.

With all the new tanks and the 200,000 plus adminstrative military occupations they have called up, it's clear what is going to happen

 

[Useful_Mistake]

LMAO that Donbas Whorecrushka (and yours) shilling is too much even for idiotic vatnik rag.
Stop poasting dumb sheeeit you niggaz
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There you go:

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Моравецкий призвал Зеленского отдать западную Украину под временный протекторат Польши | Ghostarchive

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[AgendaPoster]

There you go:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://sm.news/moraveckij-zapadnye-territorii-ukrainy-budut-v-bezopasnosti-esli-vremenno-perejdut-pod-protektorat-polskogo-gosudarstva-39529-u3t5/

Моравецкий призвал Зеленского отдать западную Украину под временный протекторат Польши | Ghostarchive

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Much beloved and respected janitorial person,
I was mocking the vatnik for having his gloating over fake news idiocy deleted by the website.
I do not intend to waste my time reading Donbas Devushka fake shit about Poland taking land from Oookraine, all of these are Kremlin narratives specifically crafted to create a false equivalence between its invasion and the East EU states, which actually hate Russia and have no plans to take land from anyone. They want to create the image of a fake country everyone is entitled to grope, rape and anally abuse.
Yet only one country will serve time in idiot jail and its leadership will commit poison-suicide at the International Court of Justice .
Bless you!

 

[870EVO]

Gee I wonder who did it then?

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1622030558665605121

 

[Got Milk!]

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Gee I wonder who did it then?

Those fucking Cambodians are at it again!

When this happened wasn't there some hack of the 43 day PM of Bongland showing a text saying "it's done" or something like that?
Also kinda surprised Germany didn't just pin the blame. Seems like the convenient thing to do to your enemy. And who would argue? France? America? Just Russia but they're being denied access to the site so kinda easy to say "you didn't investigate. We did. We know." and cleanly sweep it away.

 

[Nopenopenope]

Well, tell us how old you are in that you believe the Russian Federation = The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? 55? 60? 65? 75?

Because the the USSR, the country in which all the things you claim took place was dissolved in 1991 (coincidentally, is the same year Tim Berners-Lee invent the World Wide Web), 32 years ago, so it's pretty rich of you to post this when thanks to Berners Lee, most of your boomer Cold War hysterics can be refuted easily.

Case in point: Yuri Knorozov, the Russian-Armenian who was born in the the Ukraine SSR, became a Russian linguist at a Moscow institute. Out of curiosity he deciphered Mayan script, but he was not stopped from going to Guatemala; indeed, I have to question why a Soviet academic would want to visit during the Guatemalan Civil War, in which thousands of Mayans (the people whose writing he was an expert on) were disappeared/executed for being suspected of being "communists". After the war he did go in 1991, while still living in the USSR, which your own sources confirm. That his work was rejected by the West for decades was due solely to ideological reasons by the West, not because he withheld it. That's a condemnation of the West, not the USSR, let alone Russia and Russians. Even when his manuscript was finally published in the West, the publishers inserted phases praising the USSR, which he denied doing until his death.
http://knorosov.com/ (down atm but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Knorozov has the same info, as do the links in your post).

How long does a Ukie mobik live at the front?

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Not sustainable.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/20337

I wouldn't trust shit on that telegram. I just looked, there's one faggot with a letter from the UK government apparently assisting with tracking down fighting age men. With government spelt wrong in the header.

 

[Fait Accompli]

When is Bakhmut going to fall? ( Taking bets )

Not 100% sure if its misinformation, but from what i saw Zelensky has ordered his general staff and also the public that the soldiers in Bakhmut will not fully retreat but keep a smaller force and resist every russian movement

In the last few months, the only substantial position the Russians have taken is Soledar, not quite sure about the strategic importance of this town but a win nonetheless. ( Mines to hide equipment in? )
Russia has taken territory in the Bakhmut area, mostly empty fields and a few small towns, but most sources confirm that Russia now has access to all roads leading in and out of Bakhmut with basic artillery pieces. No roads have been captured yet, so the next few weeks will be interesting. In my opinion from the sources i've gathered, Ukraine is leaning towards keeping some forces in the area, not a general retreat, only some forces to back up a defensive line. Alot of people are talking about " Mariupol 2.0 ", but i disagree. Mariupol was cut off by about 100km, atleast. Bakhmut will still be very close to the Ukrainian frontline, so it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I have some questions to you in the know ( pro-russians, as most of my info are from pro-Ukraine/neutral sources )

1) Where is the next substantial defensive line for Ukraine?
2) What are the goals of the russian military in Bakhmut, looks like an encirclement mostly in the northwest/northeast of Bakhmut. Or frontal attacks against the city?
3) Estimates on casualties, will Russia be able to exploit this breakthrough before heavy western equipment arrives? After Soledar, it seems like Russia has not been able to exploit this victory and things are still moving slowly

4) Is this the Russian counter-offensive or only a prelude? I find that most pro-Ukrainians sees this as the general counter-offensive thats been postponed due to western committment about armored systems. The pro-russians mostly say that this is only a prelude to a general spring-offensive.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

And Bakhmut still didn't fall. Strange.

This isn't a Call of Booty game you play with other trannies, Kurwachen. It's happening, but not as you imagined.

Slavyangrad

“The Russians have occupied more than a third of Bakhmut” — a Ukrainian officer is quoted by the BBC. A Ukrainian officer told the TV channel "Present Time" that the Russians have partially occupied the city: the industrial zone and the private sector along the river. They are managing to break...

t.me

Украина.ру

❗️Россияне заняли больше трети Бахмута - украинского офицера цитирует ВВС. Украинский офицер рассказал в эфире телеканала "Настоящее время" (внесен в России в реестр СМИ-иноагентов), что россияне занял частично город: промзону и частный сектор по реку. Им действительно удается прорывать участки...

t.me

Current Time is not a BBC program, its a 24-hour Russian-language television channel produced by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) with Voice of America, aka US glowniggers. Since they're both made by the Eternal Anglo the mistake is understandable.

No, ukrainians as a nation existed

As Russians. They were always Russians, except for the bydlos of Galicia/Lwów, and Poland will be taking those back anyway. With Russia's blessing. Careful what you wish for, little поляк.

"Who will rid me of these troublesome Banderistas?" The polacks will, in one of those "cut nose off to spite face" things they do so often.

I wouldn't trust shit on that telegram. I just looked, there's one faggot with a letter from the UK government apparently assisting with tracking down fighting age men. With government spelt wrong in the header.

The video is from Ukrainian media, a pro Russian TG channel added subtitles and their watermark. If you mean Yuri Koronozov none of what I referred to came from TG. There's no letter in my post btw, but you can choose to accept or disregard.

I have some questions to you in the know ( pro-russians, as most of my info are from pro-Ukraine/neutral sources )

1) Where is the next substantial defensive line for Ukraine?
2) What are the goals of the russian military in Bakhmut, looks like an encirclement mostly in the northwest/northeast of Bakhmut. Or frontal attacks against the city?
3) Estimates on casualties, will Russia be able to exploit this breakthrough before heavy western equipment arrives? After Soledar, it seems like Russia has not been able to exploit this victory and things are still moving slowly

It's been reported the last highway going in/out to Bakhmut has been cut. That would mean Bakhmut is now encircled. No source for that though, just chatter, but this was the last map I looked at:

 

[Fait Accompli]

It's been reported the last highway going in/out to Bakhmut has been cut. That would mean Bakhmut is now encircled. No source for that though, just chatter, but this was the last map I looked at:
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I seriously doubt it, probably pro-russian hopes and cope

The areas between the russian positions and the road is mostly consisting of small towns and farmlands, easy to advance and retreat from, fluid frontline. But advancing here will enable greater artillery range for the Russians, which i think has happened

Think logically, for the last few months Russia has taken weeks/months to take larger settlements. And as the main roads leading out and in of Bakhmut is dominated by larger settlements ( not cities exactly ) they probably havent cut the roads. And as the increased tempo on the Bakhmut assault has been going on for 2 months, Ukraine has surely prepared some sort of defensive line along the roads and settlements. But the Russians are probably so close that most kinds of artillery can target these roads. So i'd say Bakhmut is in some sort of semi-encirclement

As you are the most prominent pro-russian poster, what do you think will happen these next few weeks? Complete encirclement of Bakhmut and a fight to the death within the city? A retreat from the city? A slow and costly but methodical Russian advance into the city?

Russia has not proven to be able to exploit their recent conquests in the Donbass, its mostly grindingly slow advances. I have no facts at all, but i believe that Ukraine has had more than enough times to set up several light defensive lines before Kramatorsk.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

As you are the most prominent pro-russian poster, what do you think will happen these next few weeks? Complete encirclement of Bakhmut and a fight to the death within the city? A retreat from the city? A slow and costly but methodical Russian advance into the city?

Russia has not proven to be able to exploit their recent conquests in the Donbass, its mostly grindingly slow advances. I have no facts at all, but i believe that Ukraine has had more than enough times to set up several light defensive lines before Kramatorsk.

To be honest, I really don't know, because my area of expertise was the USSR/Russian political framework, not its military. After the breakup some information was forthcoming, then it was closed again. Russia isn't open about its military. I do know their doctrine is different from the US so if you try to view it from that context it will make no sense, or at the very least be very confusing.

If I were to guess Russia is concentrating its artillery on Ukraine's formations, and forming an encirclement. Any thing that doesn't get out after the last way out is closed off is destroyed. Rinse and repeat a few times, and then move onto the next line. Ukraine is indeed setting up lines, but how formidable those will be is something I can't speculate on.

A lot of people think "shock and awe" is the only way to do an invasion. I don't believe you are one of them but a lot of folks can't wrap their little heads around the fact Russia just doesn't do offensives like the US military does.
lol @ most prominent pro-russian poster

 

[Romeo]

I have some questions to you in the know ( pro-russians, as most of my info are from pro-Ukraine/neutral sources )

1) Where is the next substantial defensive line for Ukraine?
2) What are the goals of the russian military in Bakhmut, looks like an encirclement mostly in the northwest/northeast of Bakhmut. Or frontal attacks against the city?
3) Estimates on casualties, will Russia be able to exploit this breakthrough before heavy western equipment arrives? After Soledar, it seems like Russia has not been able to exploit this victory and things are still moving slowly
4) Is this the Russian counter-offensive or only a prelude? I find that most pro-Ukrainians sees this as the general counter-offensive thats been postponed due to western committment about armored systems. The pro-russians mostly say that this is only a prelude to a general spring-offensive.

1. Siversk and Chasov Yar
2. I don't think the Russian Army intends to take Bakhmut as quick as possible as many on the Pro-Russian or Pro-Ukrainians believe. Rather, they would want to prolong it as long as possible because they know it's a meat grinder for the Ukrainians as long as they keep sending men there, grinding down the numbers of the AFU (Prigozhin mentioned that Bakhmut would help result in the destruction of the AFU so this is the presumption, and Ukraine is desperate to field more men hence forced conscriptions). They know the city will fall, so might as well assault positions around the city like the suburbs Krasne and Chasov Yar, in which the Ukrainians are desperate to reinforce.
3. Heavy Western equipment is also dependent on how they're used and takes months to know what to do, but Ukrainians are only given weeks. If they're used badly, they're be like the destroyed T-90s in the beginning of the invasion by Russia.
4. That is something for time to decide so I would wait until the next month.

 

[Fait Accompli]

To be honest, I really don't know, because my area of expertise was the USSR/Russian political framework, not its military. After the breakup some information was forthcoming, then it was closed again. Russia isn't open about its military. I do know their doctrine is different from the US so if you try to view it from that context it will make no sense, or at the very least be very confusing.

If I were to guess Russia is concentrating its artillery on Ukraine's formations, and forming an encirclement. Any thing that doesn't get out after the last way out is closed off is destroyed. Rinse and repeat a few times, and then move onto the next line. Ukraine is indeed setting up lines, but how formidable those will be is something I can't speculate on.

A lot of people think "shock and awe" is the only way to do an invasion. I don't believe you are one of them but a lot of folks can't wrap their little heads around the fact Russia just doesn't do offensives like the US military does.
lol @ most prominent pro-russian poster

Well, " shock and awe " is the best modern strategy if you could manage it, which few can. I think that Russia tried it in the beginning of their invasion but abandoned it because it couldnt be done. So they changed strategy to a decades old one ( which kind of works, ngl )

What i have seen is that Russia is using its artillery, probably the best doctrine for them at this moment. Lightly equipped prisoners that charge Ukrainian positions, they die and then russian artillery/more experienced units identify Ukrainian positions and assault these. Quite smart, get rid of prisoners for a rly small cost. Most of Wagner does poorly equipped wave attacks, the more experienced original wagner does infiltration coupled with artillery, worked in Soledar. But plenty of sources now say that Russian regular military has largely replaced Wagner in the area, whether it is due to huge Wagner losses or simply a power move i dont know ( I believe in the former )

Other offensives seem to be in Kreminna-Svatove, pushing the Ukrainian offensive back. And Zapohirzhia, in Vuhlnedar. The former seems to have some success, but battles in the forests are difficult and costly. The Vuhlnedar attack has been unsuccessfull with major losses ( from what i have seen on geolocated videos )

1. I don't think the Russian Army intends to take Bakhmut as quick as possible as many on the Pro-Russian or Pro-Ukrainians believe. Rather, they would want to prolong it as long as possible because they know it's a meat grinder for the Ukrainians as long as they keep sending men there, grinding down the numbers of the AFU (Prigozhin mentioned that Bakhmut would help result in the destruction of the AFU so this is the presumption, and Ukraine is desperate to field more men hence forced conscriptions). They know the city will fall, so might as well assault positions around the city like the suburbs Krasne and Chasov Yar, in which the Ukrainians are desperate to reinforce.
2. Heavy Western equipment is also dependent on how they're used and takes months to know what to do, but Ukrainians are only given weeks. If they're used badly, they're be like the destroyed T-90s in the beginning of the invasion by Russia.

I just dont see how Bakhmut is a meat grinder in favour for the Russians. They are attacking fortified positions in an area dominated by civilian buildings against a determined defender, the only advantage Russia has is their artillery. But the consensus amongst most observers is that Russias artillery advantage has lessened compared to the similar situation last summer. Its still greater than Ukraine, but is also more unprecise.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Well, " shock and awe " is the best modern strategy if you could manage it, which few can. I think that Russia tried it in the beginning of their invasion but abandoned it because it couldnt be done. So they changed strategy to a decades old one ( which kind of works, ngl )

What i have seen is that Russia is using its artillery, probably the best doctrine for them at this moment. Lightly equipped prisoners that charge Ukrainian positions, they die and then russian artillery/more experienced units identify Ukrainian positions and assault these. Quite smart, get rid of prisoners for a rly small cost. Most of Wagner does poorly equipped wave attacks, the more experienced original wagner does infiltration coupled with artillery, worked in Soledar. But plenty of sources now say that Russian regular military has largely replaced Wagner in the area, whether it is due to huge Wagner losses or simply a power move i dont know ( I believe in the former )

Other offensives seem to be in Kreminna-Svatove, pushing the Ukrainian offensive back. And Zapohirzhia, in Vuhlnedar. The former seems to have some success, but battles in the forests are difficult and costly. The Vuhlnedar attack has been unsuccessfull with major losses ( from what i have seen on geolocated videos )

The best strategy is the one that enables you to successfully achieve your objective(s). Shock and awe is one that worked in the Middle East against a technologically inferior opponent. It will not work against Russia, or China, because they are evenly/closely matched, as well as numerically superior, to the US. The terrain is not like the Middle East.

A lot of factors go into devising a military strategy. This one is not the best, or even the the most logical.

I watched families crying and wailing afterward. It was absolutely unnecessary. The Middle East hates the US and her people. I don't believe Russia wants to do it, even if they could.

 

[Fait Accompli]

The best strategy is the one that enables you to successfully achieve your objective(s). Shock and awe is one that worked in the Middle East against a technologically inferior opponent. It will not work against Russia, or China, because they are evenly/closely matched, as well as numerically superior, to the US. The terrain is not like the Middle East.

A lot of factors go into devising a military strategy. This one is not the best, or even the the most logical.

I watched families crying and wailing afterward. It was absolutely unnecessary. The Middle East hates the US and her people. I don't believe Russia wants to do it, even if they could.

In general militarilly, true. But from what we knos currently, a successfull shock and awe is the most effective strategy. I never said that it would work against anyone, just that its the best one currently. It would totally work against Russia, China? Idk. Casualties would be high

Massive amounts of precision strikes are in theory much more mild to the civilian populace than a slow grindr supported by large amounts of unprecise artillery. Its either get out or become a casuality.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

Lets go Putin! Down with that Jew fag Zelenskyy.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

In general militarilly, true. But from what we knos currently, a successfull shock and awe is the most effective strategy. I never said that it would work against anyone, just that its the best one currently. It would totally work against Russia, China? Idk. Casualties would be high

Massive amounts of precision strikes are in theory much more mild to the civilian populace than a slow grindr supported by large amounts of unprecise artillery. Its either get out or become a casuality.

What's the objective, to punish Russia? The US can't sustain massive amounts of precision strikes against Russia for the length of time required to make them effective, a country so huge you could throw the USA into it, thrice, and still have trouble finding it.

And you forget a war with Russia would not be confined to Russia, it would also be a war on American soil.

Russian warship with ‘unstoppable' hypersonic missiles 'sails towards US'

A RUSSIAN warship armed with “unstoppable” hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely mon…

www.thesun.co.uk

It would not be the sandnigger wars you are thinking of.

 

[Fait Accompli]

What's the objective, to punish Russia? The US can't sustain massive amounts of precision strikes against Russia for the length of time required to make them effective, a country so huge you could throw the USA into it, thrice, and still have trouble finding it.

And you forget a war with Russia would not be confined to Russia, it would also be a war on American soil.

Russian warship with ‘unstoppable' hypersonic missiles 'sails towards US'

A RUSSIAN warship armed with “unstoppable” hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely mon…

www.thesun.co.uk

It would not be the sandnigger wars you are thinking of.

I never said it would be a sandnigger war, it for sure would be much more bigger, even if confined to conventional means

At best, Russia could lob a few conventional missiles against US targets. Or European, it depends. As they have consumed a large amount of these on Ukraine the effect on the west would be minimal. Also, a western fleet in the atlantic would surpass the russian one on a enormous amount. Russia has already consumed alot of resources and equipment on the war in Ukraine, most of this they cant replenish for many many years. The west would ( with big casualties ) neuter Russia and make the state collapse, in my opinion. But we dont want this, Russia needs to stay coherent for international security, due to nukes

 

[870EVO]

I never said it would be a sandnigger war, it for sure would be much more bigger, even if confined to conventional means

At best, Russia could lob a few conventional missiles against US targets. Or European, it depends. As they have consumed a large amount of these on Ukraine the effect on the west would be minimal. Also, a western fleet in the atlantic would surpass the russian one on a enormous amount. Russia has already consumed alot of resources and equipment on the war in Ukraine, most of this they cant replenish for many many years. The west would ( with big casualties ) neuter Russia and make the state collapse, in my opinion. But we dont want this, Russia needs to stay coherent for international security, due to nukes

If you read many of the articles. Some up to 6 years ago, McCain and Graham visiting Ukraine were saying they needed to get rid of Putin. Not Russia, Putin specifically. He's not being co-operative with the US Agenda. Unlike say Gorbachev or Yeltsin.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I never said it would be a sandnigger war, it for sure would be much more bigger, even if confined to conventional means

At best, Russia could lob a few conventional missiles against US targets. Or European, it depends. As they have consumed a large amount of these on Ukraine the effect on the west would be minimal. Also, a western fleet in the atlantic would surpass the russian one on a enormous amount. Russia has already consumed alot of resources and equipment on the war in Ukraine, most of this they cant replenish for many many years. The west would ( with big casualties ) neuter Russia and make the state collapse, in my opinion. But we dont want this, Russia needs to stay coherent for international security, due to nukes

I don't believe this is assessment of Russia is accurate, simply because the likely source(s) are Anglosphere glowniggers; however, the Pentagon has its own in house glowniggers and they are nowhere nearly as optimistic as you are.

Anyone who says they know the capabilities of what a secretive and notoriously paranoid military such as Russia would be capable of is lying.

I'm going with the men who would actually fight this war, and not the hopes and dreams of decrepit boomer coomers who are disappointed they didn't get their Cold War WW3 match up before they pop their clogs (which they are close to doing).