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[Bonesjones]

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

Crazy thing about cars, if they shut down one set of roads, you can just go around it, or even off road.

 

[LaxerBRO]

It is not. I lived in a modern Asian city for a good bit and I would rather drive for 20 minutes in traffic than spend an hour navigating the subway/bus lines to get across town. Even with a robust public transportation system it will be slower than your own personal vehicle. Then there is the issue of rush hours and holidays where you are shoulder to shoulder with a hundred strangers for who knows how long or you straight up get stranded because trains are at peak capacity and are unable to get in one. Your car is always there waiting for you and while traffic sucks it is nice to just relax and listen to music or a pod cast while sitting on a comfy seat.

Dunno the accuracy, but this is how a person in one of the most public transit friendly / structured city experiences life with a car vs. public transit.

No surprise, public transit takes longer.

P.S. I understand the argument that one could be more productive on the public transit ride but a private car saves 50% of the time.

This is not even including if you want to do something else like stop for groceries or something else.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

Dunno the accuracy, but this is how a person in one of the most public transit friendly / structured city experiences life with a car vs. public transit.

Singapore, a nation with city boundaries enforced by island size, $131k PPP-GDP per capita, 3rd highest population density, and nearly unlimited government power, has decided that roads and private vehicles are necessary after all.

The country from the "Society if" meme is run by carbrains. Shocking, I know.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

Dunno the accuracy, but this is how a person in one of the most public transit friendly / structured city experiences life with a car vs. public transit.

No surprise, public transit takes longer.

P.S. I understand the argument that one could be more productive on the public transit ride but a private car saves 50% of the time.

This is not even including if you want to do something else like stop for groceries or something else.

Keep in mind this is TODAY, a GOVERNMENT LINKED newspaper. And I've told everyone the government heavily intervenes on behalf of public transport, imposing fees that triple the cost of cars.

Theyre not bullshitting about the time taken. I've had to make a journey over similar distances as her journey from bishan to changi, my journey was between the west side to the south side. It was an hour+ by bus (there was a direct bus route for me), similar duration by MRT (because of interchanges and such) but half that by car.

I'm once again gonna say that even singaporean public transport gets crowded at peak hour. Having no seats on the bus on that 1 hour journey is no fucking joke.

 

[quaawaa]

Dunno the accuracy, but this is how a person in one of the most public transit friendly / structured city experiences life with a car vs. public transit.

No surprise, public transit takes longer.

P.S. I understand the argument that one could be more productive on the public transit ride but a private car saves 50% of the time.

This is not even including if you want to do something else like stop for groceries or something else.

Her seven year old numbers line up with Google Maps:

This screenshot was taken at 2:33 PM in Singapore, which is a close enough time to her Friday commute where she works from home in the morning and comes into the office at noon.

Also it looks like Singapore has very low speed limits for highways. A highway only route like this one would take half the time in my city because I can drive over twice as fast.

The country from the "Society if" meme is run by carbrains. Shocking, I know.

That’s also not a picture of Singapore Changi Airport. It’s a picture of Jewel Changi Airport, which is a shopping mall located next to the terminal and that post is the equivalent of posting a picture of the Mall of America and saying that it’s Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport:

society if it was run by the boys and the straights

The blue line is the light rail line between the airport and the mall.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Dunno the accuracy, but this is how a person in one of the most public transit friendly / structured city experiences life with a car vs. public transit.

No surprise, public transit takes longer.

P.S. I understand the argument that one could be more productive on the public transit ride but a private car saves 50% of the time.

This is not even including if you want to do something else like stop for groceries or something else.

Yeah that's the biggest rub, having options to pull off and shop around. Not just that but being able to hurry time sensitive things home like frozen food. You just can't beat a car in terms of speed.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Part of me wants to make a parody of the "American culture is centered around niggers" copypasta but with cars instead of niggers and post it to /r/fuckcars and see how long it takes for them to notice

American culture is centered around cars. They have holidays for cars. They killed hundreds of thousands of pedestrians to build cars. They listen to car music. They made a movie about electing a car as their president. They dress and act like cars. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from cars. They post sassy gifs about cars. They watch literal sports build with cars in worship of cars. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of cars. They use cars slang like "auto" and "zoom". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism, or even MLK. They're thinking of the boulevard full of cars. Their cities are completely overrun with cars. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with cars and their global police force of soldiers filled with cars. Their men sit around watching cars while their women sit around watching car talk shows. They worship cars like Knight Rider and The Beast and Dukes of Hazard and the late Delorean while attacking the pedestrians who actually built their country before cars took over. Their movies are filled with cars and their music charts are topped by cars. They send cars to the Olympics and celebrate when the cars win because those cars are true red blooded american cars. They watch car porn to a point where "BMW" does not make them think of an international military vehicle company but about cars instead. They will tell you how much they hate cars and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love cars but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of car loving idiots.

 

[Corpun]

I've still yet to see these anti-car people use an actual comparative model for America. Every nation they use is small as hell and flat as shit.

Wonder why that is, surely they can't be aware basic geography would destroy their arguments.

 

[Toolbox]

I'm apparently still getting recommended this guy's shit. He used to be someone I considered a moderate among this crowd.

Just how childish can you make your supposedly informative content? Your video could be the gold standard for what a video essay can be and I'm still never clicking on it if you say something is 'awesomer'.

 

[quaawaa]

I'm apparently still getting recommended this guy's shit. He used to be someone I considered a moderate among this crowd.
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Just how childish can you make your supposedly informative content? Your video could be the gold standard for what a video essay can be and I'm still never clicking on it if you say something is 'awesomer'.

Jason created that title and thumbnail because his doesn't understand how clickbait and the YouTube algorithm work. He's trying to drive clicks by hiding what the video is about, but that's always a terrible idea because no one clicks on videos when they don't know what they're about. Good clickbait shows an interesting snapshot of the video and asks an intriguing question that will be answered in the video, but clickbait like the example above confuses the user and they just scroll to the next video in their feed.

The thumbnail is a parking garage and despite what Jason thinks, bike garages are about as interesting as car garages: i.e. not at all. That's assuming that the potential viewer even recognizes that it's a photo of a garage because that photo is terrible.

I've covered the difference between good/bad clickbait over in the LMG thread.

Spoiler: Archive of the video

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Jason created that title and thumbnail because his doesn't understand how clickbait and the YouTube algorithm work. He's trying to drive clicks by hiding what the video is about, but that's always a terrible idea because no one clicks on videos when they don't know what they're about. Good clickbait shows an interesting snapshot of the video and asks an intriguing question that will be answered in the video, but clickbait like the example above confuses the user and they just scroll to the next video in their feed.

The thumbnail is a parking garage and despite what Jason thinks, bike garages are about as interesting as car garages: i.e. not at all. That's assuming that the potential viewer even recognizes that it's a photo of a garage because that photo is terrible.

I've covered the difference between good/bad clickbait over in the LMG thread.

Spoiler: Archive of the video

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The whole point of clickbait is to SET THE DAMN HOOK - you show what the video has and you deliver. Sure you make it the best you can show but YouTube knows if people nope the fuck out of your video.

He should have done a “one weird trick” or “this strange building solves a major problem” style clickbate.

 

[WelperHelper99]

American culture is centered around cars. They have holidays for cars. They killed hundreds of thousands of pedestrians to build cars. They listen to car music. They made a movie about electing a car as their president. They dress and act like cars. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from cars. They post sassy gifs about cars. They watch literal sports build with cars in worship of cars. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of cars. They use cars slang like "auto" and "zoom". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism, or even MLK. They're thinking of the boulevard full of cars. Their cities are completely overrun with cars. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with cars and their global police force of soldiers filled with cars. Their men sit around watching cars while their women sit around watching car talk shows. They worship cars like Knight Rider and The Beast and Dukes of Hazard and the late Delorean while attacking the pedestrians who actually built their country before cars took over. Their movies are filled with cars and their music charts are topped by cars. They send cars to the Olympics and celebrate when the cars win because those cars are true red blooded american cars. They watch car porn to a point where "BMW" does not make them think of an international military vehicle company but about cars instead. They will tell you how much they hate cars and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love cars but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of car loving idiots.

Speaking as a welder, there are entire auto shops that will take a engine, and build a one of a kind beast out of it. Ive met these people. You want a Mercedes V12 in a dune buggy that can do 130mph? There are small botique. custom shops that will build you these cars from scratch, for a healthy sum of course. America loves its cars, and despite the Globohomo push, it's not going away.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Speaking as a welder, there are entire auto shops that will take a engine, and build a one of a kind beast out of it. Ive met these people. You want a Mercedes V12 in a dune buggy that can do 130mph? There are small botique. custom shops that will build you these cars from scratch, for a healthy sum of course. America loves its cars, and despite the Globohomo push, it's not going away.

Even if petrol dries up in some freak accident of nature and/or human folly, utilitarian American builders will fabricate a car with an engine that will run on wood if it comes down to it.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

Even if petrol dries up in some freak accident of nature and/or human folly, utilitarian American builders will fabricate a car with an engine that will run on wood if it comes down to it.

Turbine engines can already run on anything flammable enough, including tequila.

 

[Tealeaf]

Like public transport. They want you to think that taking the bike or train can take you anywhere just as good as a car, but you're either limited in range or at the mercy of TPTB. They can just shut things down, or something can take out the system, and you're stuck. With a car you have to take care of it and prepare for outages and stuff, but thats the thing, it's YOUR responsibility and in your control.

Do you seriously think ”The Powers that Be” can’t also arbitrarily shut down your ability to drive a car? The difference in infrastructure between driving your car and having someone drive a bus for you is the bus driver: you use the same roads, same gas and electricity, same everything. You are not responsible for fuel refining and logistics, you are not responsible for the maintenance and accessibility of the roads. Yet you need both fuel and accessible roads to drive.

If your serious threat model is a hostile state and society that you can’t rely on, whether or not bus drivers are working is the least of your concerns.

If you go off the grid, chances are you want to have the stuff you need to live accessible within walking distance. Even if you aren’t willing to go 100% off the grid, the less you need to drive, the less you’re dependent on the state not hating your guts.

 

[Corpun]

Adam Something dropped a video about some retard literal who billionaire's megacity project. I haven't watched it nor do I think anyone should waste time watching it, because everyone knows it's a thing that won't happen. The video is titled something like America's Nightmare City or something.

Why the tard decided to make a video about a billionaire's vanity project is beyond me, because everyone already knows these projects are all just rich dudes egos being stroked. I'm sure there is some sperging about the wealthy because he is the type who worships commie blocks.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Don't know. These schizo doomsday predictions were never very convincing to me. If things ever reach that point, they may as well just close off roads with police barricades or even forbit any vehicular traffic outright.
Nevermind the fact you can just do both. I still own a car.

Closing off roads with police barricades is harder and takes a lot more coordination and boots on the ground. Shutting down transit systems is a matter of sending the employees home and maybe plopping armed guards at the station for good measure.

I know most people aren't in the habit of asking "How can this be used to fuck me over?" I would contend that if you're posting on Kiwi Farms, you should know the value of not leaving your fate in the hands of disinterested third parties.

A real world example:

 

[Chuck McGill]

Do you seriously think ”The Powers that Be” can’t also arbitrarily shut down your ability to drive a car? The difference in infrastructure between driving your car and having someone drive a bus for you is the bus driver: you use the same roads, same gas and electricity, same everything. You are not responsible for fuel refining and logistics, you are not responsible for the maintenance and accessibility of the roads. Yet you need both fuel and accessible roads to drive.

If your serious threat model is a hostile state and society that you can’t rely on, whether or not bus drivers are working is the least of your concerns.

If you go off the grid, chances are you want to have the stuff you need to live accessible within walking distance. Even if you aren’t willing to go 100% off the grid, the less you need to drive, the less you’re dependent on the state not hating your guts.

In the event that the poop hits the paddles, I can easily get 200 miles away from the city on a full tank of gas, so long as there's a road. If I had a vehicle with off-road capability, the road part is optional. Now ask yourself, where would you rather be: 200 miles away from the rest of collapsing civilization or waiting with the spics and nigs at the station for a bus that will never come?

I know what I'd choose.

 

[quaawaa]

Someone asks for evidence for the "suburban ponzi scheme" myth:

Answer: Read Strong Towns:




One person gave a more reasonable answer and unsurprisingly, got downvoted for it:

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I still disagree with his conclusion because suburban residents pay the majority of taxes due to their higher average incomes and our progressive tax system, so state/fed taxes subsidize inner cities. At least he is capable of thinking independently.
Only for Jason to tell him to read Strong Towns:

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>Detroit
>Not a shithole
Pick one

"Going bankrupt" means running out of money, not necessarily the formal bankruptcy process. Also, his link disproves his argument because it says that 27 states allow municipalities to file for bankruptcy.

Luckily, the sane person continues the argument:

Turns out we never said that suburbs would go bankrupt:

Someone else accused Jason of cherry-picking and got downvoted:

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Based AI knows that Strong Towns is wrong:


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Cope, the post:






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Cope, the post, part 2:

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[Rubick]

The hell is this guy smoking by giving Amsterdam as a example as a city to emulate. It's a complete and utter nightmare for cars, bicyclists (or anything on two wheels) and pedestrians. It's a shithole that deserves to be nuked.

Arguably, Utrecht is about the best designed city in how it handles traffic and pedestrian.