Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Fait Accompli]

I don't believe this is assessment of Russia is accurate, simply because the likely source(s) are Anglosphere glowniggers; however, the Pentagon has its own in house glowniggers and they are nowhere nearly as optimistic as you are.

Anyone who says they know the capabilities of what a secretive and notoriously paranoid military such as Russia would be capable of is lying.

I'm going with the men who would actually fight this war, and not the hopes and dreams of decrepit boomer coomers who are disappointed they didn't get their Cold War WW3 match up before they pop their clogs (which they are close to doing).

For sure there is " glownigger aka Terry " involved in this

But most sources point towards the things i am saying, of course this doesnt mean that its absolute truth, just that the only thing directly condradicting it is Russian or pro-russian propaganda. As you seem quite intelligent, i would have hoped that you wouldnt resort to mostly listening to russian propaganda

Russian media is tightly controlled, most info comes directly from an authoritarian russian state or influenced pro-russian media. Western media sure has clickbait, angles and propaganda, but there are so many channels in the west and most of them are independent. I have watched hundreds of reports and videos from the ground, i have watched hundreds of clips showing Russians getting decimated, i have watched alot of clips of Ukrainians getting decimated. Taking in multiple sources and forming an opinion is probably the closest you can get here, not spouting one-liners and clips of either side getting a grenade in their face

 

[870EVO]

Taking in multiple sources and forming an opinion is probably the closest you can get here, not spouting one-liners and clips of either side getting a grenade in their face

From the videos I've seen on Twitter. Ukraine is suffering a shortage of manpower, considering they are grabbing people off the street. If Russia was suffering the same, I guarantee either Russian leftists or glowniggers would smuggle that onto the front page of the NYT within hours.

So my assessment is things aren't going very well for Ukraine right now. Leaks early on the war from subcontracters said the reason several High Level Russian Commanders strangely died initially was because those Commanders were corrupt and had been skimming money meant for training supplies and maintenance. Which is why the initial Russian push faltered. And so Putin ordered those Men assassinated.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

For sure there is " glownigger aka Terry " involved in this

But most sources point towards the things i am saying, of course this doesnt mean that its absolute truth, just that the only thing directly condradicting it is Russian or pro-russian propaganda. As you seem quite intelligent, i would have hoped that you wouldnt resort to mostly listening to russian propaganda

Russian media is tightly controlled, most info comes directly from an authoritarian russian state or influenced pro-russian media. Western media sure has clickbait, angles and propaganda, but there are so many channels in the west and most of them are independent. I have watched hundreds of reports and videos from the ground, i have watched hundreds of clips showing Russians getting decimated, i have watched alot of clips of Ukrainians getting decimated. Taking in multiple sources and forming an opinion is probably the closest you can get here, not spouting one-liners and clips of either side getting a grenade in their face

Ah, so there unknown unknowns, and Russia is a known unknown. I love trawling through the TG clips because you sometimes find real and unfiltered information, usually from a DPR or LPR soldier, but those are harder to come by now that they're part of the Russian military. Russian propaganda is quite easy to spot but most of the time its good propaganda, as it often contains nuggets of the truth. Ukrainian propaganda is vapid and silly (eg NAFO).

Our propaganda was once very good at this, which made it very effective, but focusing on trannies and "wahmen's rights" is a losing proposition, simply because most folks don't want troons grooming their kids, and pretending you care about women when your country claims men with penises and testicles are true and honest women is something most people all over the world would correctly peg as bullshit, and reject. As they should, but it sucks for America's glowniggers.

No one cares if Sarah Troon can't get his HRT but a video of a Russian soldier making a babushka happy by giving her food and shelter has a bigger, and better impact.

 

[Fait Accompli]

From the videos I've seen on Twitter. Ukraine is suffering a shortage of manpower, considering they are grabbing people off the street. If Russia was suffering the same, I guarantee either Russian leftists or glowniggers would smuggle that onto the front page of the NYT within hours.

So my assessment is things aren't going very well for Ukraine right now. Leaks early on the war from subcontracters said the reason several High Level Russian Commanders died initially was because those Commanders were corrupt and had been skimming money meant for training and maintenance. Which is why the initial Russian push faltered. Putin ordered those Men assassinated.

Lately, i've seen alot of videos picturing civilians being grabbed of the streets. I think its Russian propaganda, several of these videos has been proven to be fake. Its either arrests suspecting spying or spontaneous visa checks. Its a smaller country at war, being invaded and fear of being infiltrated. Scenarios where Ukrainian officials are arresting people on the streets doesnt neccessarily mean its some sort of forced recruitment. Honestly, in a world of smarthphones, do u really believe that Ukraine would send multiple officials dressed in military gear to forcibly recruit people in the street? Thats just dumb, honestly

Ah, so there unknown unknowns, and Russia is a known unknown. I love trawling through the TG clips because you sometimes find real and unfiltered information, usually from a DPR or LPR soldier, but those are harder to come by now that they're part of the Russian military. Russian propaganda is quite easy to spot but most of the time its good propaganda, as it often contains nuggets of the truth. Ukrainian propaganda is vapid and silly (eg NAFO).

Our propaganda was once very good at this, which made it very effective, but focusing on trannies and "wahmen's rights" is a losing proposition, simply because most folks don't want troons grooming their kids, and pretending you care about women when your country claims men with penises and testicles are true and honest women is something most people all over the world would correctly peg as bullshit, and reject. As they should, but it sucks for America's glowniggers.

No one cares if Sarah Troon can't get his HRT but a video of a Russian soldier making a babushka happy by giving her food and shelter has a bigger, and better impact.

Twitter and telegram links sure contains some interesting shit, mostly personal opinions or battle scenes. Not that relevant to the bigger picture. One unit can say one thing, be absolutely wrong and another unit can say the opposite.

" Trannies, womens rights, glowniggers, troons ". This is just off-topic shit oneliners, skip it. It has nothing to do with this conflict. It just makes you look like a typical " internet troll " to quote the liberal media

 

[870EVO]

I think its Russian propaganda, several of these videos has been proven to be fake.

No doubt some of it is fake or taken out of context. Some people are entirely for Russia, some are entirely for Ukraine, some are just trolls. But if there were some good content coming out of Russia, I'm sure I'd see it everywhere, since I'm using the entire Western media apparatus right now, yet it's not happening. So I'm thinking Ukraine is in a difficult spot right now.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

One unit can say one thing, be absolutely wrong and another unit can say the opposite.

That's actually extremely common during active engagements, in all conflicts, for all participants. I'm not saying all those clips are accurate, but when you have AFU soldiers upload videos bitching about command abandoning them, not giving them ammo, etc, and then you see the same thing published on a Western site like Politico, its likely to be true.

" Trannies, womens rights, glowniggers, troons ". This is just off-topic shit oneliners, skip it. It has nothing to do with this conflict. It just makes you look like a typical " internet troll " to quote the liberal media

Winning hearts and minds is a legit, and important military tactic. No country is going to go under because they have laws saying troons cant shake their cojones at 2nd graders in Josef Stalin Elementary, Irkutsk.

 

[Fait Accompli]

That's actually extremely common during active engagements, in all conflicts, for all participants. I'm not saying all those clips are accurate, but when you have AFU soldiers upload videos bitching about command abandoning them, not giving them ammo, etc, and then you see the same thing published on a Western site like Politico, its likely to be true.

Winning hearts and minds is a legit, and important military tactic. No country is going to go under because they have laws saying troons cant shake their cojones at 2nd graders in Josef Stalin Elementary, Irkutsk.

There are also a ton of clips showing Russian units saying the exact same thing, therefore its just propaganda value, not meaningful in a general discussion

Sure, most of Europe support Ukraine. A majority wouldnt even understand your last sentence, its just obscure conspiracy speech for most people. It has 0 worth. You would do much better if you skipped the obscure edgy conspiratorial speech and just communicated your sources and opinions.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

There are also a ton of clips showing Russian units saying the exact same thing, therefore its just propaganda value, not meaningful in a general discussion

AFU units have been posting videos themselves, on Ukrainian TG channels. It's no secret in Ukraine, and one of the biggest reasons Zelensky make it a crime last week. And I feel for them, both regular army and conscripts who were told one thing and then are suddenly thrown into a meatgrinder against Russia with little or no support despite the massive amount of aid we have given Ukraine recently, and throughout the preceding years.

I haven't come across Russian soldiers posting the same things in Ukraine.

Sure, most of Europe support Ukraine. A majority wouldnt even understand your last sentence, its just obscure conspiracy speech for most people. It has 0 worth.

Russians are very much aware of our/EU's demands to respect "trans rights", refugees, women's rights and other "human rights". Europe can do whatever it wants but I was referring to Russia, a place that doesn't have any laws against gay or trans folk, but won't permit it to be leveraged for political purposes.

St Petersburg is called the San Francisco of Russia (lol). If the Hermitage wasn't located there I'd probably avoid it.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

I have some questions to you in the know ( pro-russians, as most of my info are from pro-Ukraine/neutral sources )

1) Where is the next substantial defensive line for Ukraine?
2) What are the goals of the russian military in Bakhmut, looks like an encirclement mostly in the northwest/northeast of Bakhmut. Or frontal attacks against the city?
3) Estimates on casualties, will Russia be able to exploit this breakthrough before heavy western equipment arrives? After Soledar, it seems like Russia has not been able to exploit this victory and things are still moving slowly

4) Is this the Russian counter-offensive or only a prelude? I find that most pro-Ukrainians sees this as the general counter-offensive thats been postponed due to western committment about armored systems. The pro-russians mostly say that this is only a prelude to a general spring-offensive.

I think this is a decent read: https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-world-blood

It reads fairly balanced with just a technical assessment of the questions you posed, and is at least not frothing at the mouth pro-Russia. I'm no military tactician so I can't say how accurate the assessment is, but it's at least well thought out and presented. Worth a read if nothing else.

 

[CarlosDanger]

1. Siversk and Chasov Yar
2. I don't think the Russian Army intends to take Bakhmut as quick as possible as many on the Pro-Russian or Pro-Ukrainians believe. Rather, they would want to prolong it as long as possible because they know it's a meat grinder for the Ukrainians as long as they keep sending men there, grinding down the numbers of the AFU (Prigozhin mentioned that Bakhmut would help result in the destruction of the AFU so this is the presumption, and Ukraine is desperate to field more men hence forced conscriptions). They know the city will fall, so might as well assault positions around the city like the suburbs Krasne and Chasov Yar, in which the Ukrainians are desperate to reinforce.
3. Heavy Western equipment is also dependent on how they're used and takes months to know what to do, but Ukrainians are only given weeks. If they're used badly, they're be like the destroyed T-90s in the beginning of the invasion by Russia.
4. That is something for time to decide so I would wait until the next month.

Wagner group basically said as much, they can just grind them down day after day causing heavy casualties while slowly tightening their grip like an anaconda.

 

[MrJokerRager]

For all the military gibs that the hohols are getting.

I just remembered when Uncle Sam supplied poison gas to Saddam Hussein during the Iran and Iraq War.

I wonder how that war would be covered in the modern social media age.

Probably censorship and no attempts by the Western corporate press made to cover the usage of the gas during the war.

 

[Fait Accompli]

AFU units have been posting videos themselves, on Ukrainian TG channels. It's no secret in Ukraine, and one of the biggest reasons Zelensky make it a crime last week. And I feel for them, both regular army and conscripts who were told one thing and then are suddenly thrown into a meatgrinder against Russia with little or no support despite the massive amount of aid we have given Ukraine recently, and throughout the preceding years.

I haven't come across Russian soldiers posting the same things in Ukraine.

Russians are very much aware of our/EU's demands to respect "trans rights", refugees, women's rights and other "human rights". Europe can do whatever it wants but I was referring to Russia, a place that doesn't have any laws against gay or trans folk, but won't permit it to be leveraged for political purposes.

St Petersburg is called the San Francisco of Russia (lol). If the Hermitage wasn't located there I'd probably avoid it.

Yeah, they have? Hundreds of channels from both sides are posting hundreds of videos of both sides getting absolutely wrecked. The difference is that Ukrainian conscripts are defending their country, russian conscripts are thrown into a war of ambiguous geopolitcal conflict. The whole " de-nazification " thing is way overplayed. The war in general has turned into a meatgrinder, i think the russians are being grinded the the most.

Russia has used overall western " liberalism " to leverage their own reputation. I'll be honest, for the last decade i've liked Russia and their propaganda about western decadence and Russian conservatism. The truth is that Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole. If Ukraine wants to shed this history and integrate into the west its all positive. Not that i dont have strong opinions about western decadence, im strongly against western politics and what they are doing. But as Russia is invading neighbours and turning this into some sort of crusade against the west, they are forcing people to pick sides

Just to be clear, i fucking despise San Fransisco, liberal degeneracy and political correctness. But when viewed from a clear lens, the Russian alternative is much much much worse. Thats why a majority ( from my perspective and the forums i frequent, including the largest swedish one ) of typical anti-liberalist posters has turned against Russia. Putin pushed it way too hard and revealed the flaws that they have been trying to hide for a decade, while the western flaws has been transparent all this time

 

[MrJokerRager]

Yeah, they have? Hundreds of channels from both sides are posting hundreds of videos of both sides getting absolutely wrecked. The difference is that Ukrainian conscripts are defending their country, russian conscripts are thrown inte a war of geopolitcal conflict. The war in general has turned into a meatgrinder, i think the russians are being grinded the the most.

Russia has used overall western " liberalism " to leverage their own reputation. I'll be honest, for the last decade i've liked Russia and their propaganda about western decadence and Russian conservatism. The truth is that Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole. If Ukraine wants to shed this history and integrate into the west its all positive.

Just to be clear, i fucking despise San Fransisco, liberal degeneracy and political correctness. But when viewed from a clear lens, the Russian alternative is much much much worse. Thats why a majority ( from my perspective and the forums i frequent, including the largest swedish one ) of typical anti-liberalist posters has turned against Russia. Putin pushed it way too hard and revealed the flaws that they have been trying to hide for a decade, while the western flaws has been transparent all this time

What is their definition of religious extremism since a lot of Europoors see the average American Hill Billy as too religious for their own tastes.

Though as far as Russian corruption or Western Decadence goes, the San Francisco lot have decided to do a massive speedrun on it, since they own the Democratic Party and justify corruption with something far worse than "political correctness" these days. Whereas Russian corruption would be some natural usual human nature greediness, the corruption pushed by neoliberals is well something beyond normal understanding for the average plebian.

 

[YumeNoHero]

That would honestly be the most hilarious ending to the war. Ukraine ends up completely annexed, but it's by Poland.

Imagine your country being led by a former comedian now professional beggar. Your army getting their butt blasted by Russian mercenary dogs. If you're male of fighting age then your ass get hauled to frontline. On top of that, they're getting cucked out of promised tanks by the West with all their delays and political shit flinging. And soon they will be made Poland's bitch if they sign the protectorate deal.

God the average Ukranian's life is hard.

 

[870EVO]

The truth is that Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole.

The Russians probably think similar of here. Since they aren't always exposed the the Western media telling you everything is fine. In truth, I think the US is close to Russia in corruption and decadence. It's just that, since we have such a great media and tech sector, you'll never hear about it. We wouldn't want the public getting annoyed at the politicians now would we?

A Hiphopstar video here, a leak there, a rumor over there. These could be all giant stories if Western mainstream media outlets investigated them in a sane world. But no.

 

[Legato]

Yeah, they have? Hundreds of channels from both sides are posting hundreds of videos of both sides getting absolutely wrecked. The difference is that Ukrainian conscripts are defending their country, russian conscripts are thrown into a war of ambiguous geopolitcal conflict. The whole " de-nazification " thing is way overplayed. The war in general has turned into a meatgrinder, i think the russians are being grinded the the most.

Russia has used overall western " liberalism " to leverage their own reputation. I'll be honest, for the last decade i've liked Russia and their propaganda about western decadence and Russian conservatism. The truth is that Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole. If Ukraine wants to shed this history and integrate into the west its all positive. Not that i dont have strong opinions about western decadence, im strongly against western politics and what they are doing. But as Russia is invading neighbours and turning this into some sort of crusade against the west, they are forcing people to pick sides

Just to be clear, i fucking despise San Fransisco, liberal degeneracy and political correctness. But when viewed from a clear lens, the Russian alternative is much much much worse. Thats why a majority ( from my perspective and the forums i frequent, including the largest swedish one ) of typical anti-liberalist posters has turned against Russia. Putin pushed it way too hard and revealed the flaws that they have been trying to hide for a decade, while the western flaws has been transparent all this time

I feel like your views would be more welcome in the other thread.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I think this is a decent read: https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-world-blood

It reads fairly balanced with just a technical assessment of the questions you posed, and is at least not frothing at the mouth pro-Russia. I'm no military tactician so I can't say how accurate the assessment is, but it's at least well thought out and presented. Worth a read if nothing else.

That vatnik literally locked his twitter account when oookraine made some gains because of how hard he was seething, coping and lying during that period.
Stop trying to sell dedicated vatnikophiles as some sort of neutral side.
There is not one soul that has written about this conflict that is neutral.
Maybe Nicollo Soldo/Fisted by Foucault comes somewhat close... maybe.
If all your opinions and desires consistently favor a side, you're biased and your bias should be public.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The war in general has turned into a meatgrinder, i think the russians are being grinded the the most.

Nah, there are lots of pro-Ukraine sources saying Ukraine has been hammered, far more severely than Russia, as far as casualties go. Believe what you want, though.

Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole. If Ukraine wants to shed this history and integrate into the west its all positive. Not that i dont have strong opinions about western decadence, im strongly against western politics and what they are doing. But as Russia is invading neighbours and turning this into some sort of crusade against the west, they are forcing people to pick sides

Ukraine is the acknowledged organ harvesting. child and sex trafficking capital of Europe, and with one of the highest STD/HIV rates in the world, higher than Russia's. It is infamous as a place you could rent a Ukrainian surrogate to have your babies, in a country with one of the lowest birth rates in the world. It's famous for being the most corrupt of the former Soviet SSRs. I was not surprised Ukrainians jumped at the first chance to flee. They aren't going back. Ukraine, as country, is dead.

Just to be clear, i fucking despise San Fransisco, liberal degeneracy and political correctness. But when viewed from a clear lens, the Russian alternative is much much much worse.

As a mother, I don't want Drag Story Hour anywhere near children. Any country that legislates against it, and prosecutes, is doing it right. Sweden is a country I would never be caught dead in, and you couldn't pay me to go there.

Russia's corruption is not my concern, US corruption is, and the evidence that Ukraine was/is the money laundering haven for our oligarchs-politicians is clearly the reason they are sending trillions of US taxpayer funds to protect it. That alone is the reason we should withdraw and try to recover as much of our money as possible. The United States is being ignored and as a native US citizen that's unacceptable.

 

[AgendaPoster]

The truth is that Russia is riddled with rape, HIV, gay sex and religious extremism. A large amount of islam and corruption, far from a better alternative than " western decadence ". I have realized lately that it is all propaganda, Russia ( and Ukraine, tbh ) is a corrupted shithole. If Ukraine wants to shed this history and integrate into the west its all positive. Not that i dont have strong opinions about western decadence, im strongly against western politics and what they are doing. But as Russia is invading neighbours and turning this into some sort of crusade against the west, they are forcing people to pick sides

Just to be clear, i fucking despise San Fransisco, liberal degeneracy and political correctness. But when viewed from a clear lens, the Russian alternative is much much much worse. Thats why a majority ( from my perspective and the forums i frequent, including the largest swedish one ) of typical anti-liberalist posters has turned against Russia. Putin pushed it way too hard and revealed the flaws that they have been trying to hide for a decade, while the western flaws has been transparent all this time

The truth is that regardless of how pozzed a country is, regardless of how nazi friendly it is, regardless of how much it pisses you off, you should not invade it until attacked first, and if you should, there should always be a coalition of the unwilling waiting to slap you HARD.
The only issue is that Russia has nukes, which is obnoxious as shit. The ideal situation is every country should live in absolute terror of the consequences of chimping the fuck out.

I feel like your views would be more welcome in the other thread.

Say no to segregation

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Say no to segregation

Of course you'd post this, NATO lovers adore niggers.

This wasn't a big hit in the USA though. More USAID funds down the toilet, which is the point I made in my previous post; an absolute waste of taxpayers funds to prop up US politician's dirty monies safe space.