Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Elämällä on väliä]

Russia's extremely rate of gold production

Let's see:

China: 332.0 tonnes/year
ruzzia: 330.9 tonnes/year
Australia: 315.1 tonnes/year
Canada: 192.9 tonnes/year
United States: 186.8 tonnes/year
Ghana: 129 tonnes/year.

Try to point which countries are exporting gold and which are buying it.

Even all world gold production will not be sufficent to repleace reserves of Germoney. And you still didn't get difference between production and ownership, but fuck that, ruzzia and Ghana strong.

So the Burgers deciding to outright steal billions from Russian businesses because they don't like their government is fucking stupid.

And thats why EU do that. I still cannot belive how stupied ruzzkies was to give gas for years just for loose all earned money to west.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Ok, you also have not a single clue what reserve currency is.

So why the brics still using USD? If it is so bad and worthless, why they didn't dorpped it already and didn't use own currencies in trade?

Maybye, IDK, problem is with their ifnlation? Decrease of value? Lach of faith than B will not fuck I or C won't scam R in this process?

A lot of countries have been trying to unseat the dollar as the reserve currency for ages. Reserve currencies are never permanent and it takes some inertia to change. This is perfect for that. The entire war in Libya was collusion between the French and the State Department under Hilary Clinton in order to prevent a competing gold backed currency. This isn't a Libya where you can institute regime change.

Now countries tired of Western domination are making moves to create a multipolar world.

The West's involvement in Ukraine has showed that it is possible to set up alternate hegemonies and that a unipolar world isn't a foregone conclusion.

The West has bet a lot against Ukraine. And honestly I think they're going to lose more than Russia has. They've revealed sanctions aren't all crushing and you don't have to play the West's games if you don't want to. Not to mention any Russian holding Ukrainian territory is a failure of policy.

Russia has not collapsed, Putin is still in power. A Western embarrassment of a failed Ukraine (and no matter the outcome it is a dead state, running entirely on foreign aid) is a bigger deal and holds bigger consequences than a Russian failure.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

A lot of countries have been trying to unseat the dollar as the reserve currency for ages.

Easy way: sell USD, buy what-the-hell is a brasilcoin or another.

This is perfect for that. The entire war in Libya was collusion between the French and the State Department under Hilary Clinton in order to prevent a competing gold backed currency.

Backed by what? Gold? How many gold had Libya or other shitholes with that desire?

You know what means "gold backed"? If country desires a gold bakced currency it must have possibility to echange every amount of that currency to gold.

Lets we say Libya/BRICK/Martians/that lunacy printing liberty dollar/your mother/Null have same amount of gold that USA has. USA has around 8500 tonnes in their sack, so our "kewlgoldcoin" will be backed by 8500 tonnes. Present price of gold: 60 millions USD/tonne.

So, our "kewlgoldcoin" will have upper cap of emmision around 5 100 000 000 000 USD in worth. Total market capitalization of Wallstreet is around 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

Kewlgoldcoin cap: 5 100 000 000 000 USD
Wallstreet: 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

You need more than eight times more gold than US have just to have equivalent of some stocks. Not the whole economy, not all stocks on world, not the all trade on the world but just some stocks.

Gold backed currency is destilated lunacy and I will not waste space on kiwiservs to wrote about it again. If anyone wishes to see gold backed currency please call me when you will figure it out how to make world-wide backed currency trully exchengable in 100% to gold with only 2000 tonnes of ruzzkie gold or their poor production.

 

[870EVO]

Easy way: sell USD, buy what-the-hell is a brasilcoin or another.


Backed by what? Gold? How many gold had Libya or other shitholes with that desire?

You know what means "gold backed"? If country desires a gold bakced currency it must have possibility to echange every amount of that currency to gold.

Lets we say Libya/BRICK/Martians/that lunacy printing liberty dollar/your mother/Null have same amount of gold that USA has. USA has around 8500 tonnes in their sack, so our "kewlgoldcoin" will be backed by 8500 tonnes. Present price of gold: 60 millions USD/tonne.

So, our "kewlgoldcoin" will have upper cap of emmision around 5 100 000 000 000 USD in worth. Total market capitalization of Wallstreet is around 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

Kewlgoldcoin cap: 5 100 000 000 000 USD
Wallstreet: 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

You need more than eight times more gold than US have just to have equivalent of some stocks. Not the whole economy, not all stocks on world, not the all trade on the world but just some stocks.

Gold backed currency is destilated lunacy and I will not waste space on kiwiservs to wrote about it again. If anyone wishes to see gold backed currency please call me when you will figure it out how to make world-wide backed currency trully exchengable in 100% to gold with only 2000 tonnes of ruzzkie gold or their poor production.

Regardless of your arguments, they tried to do it.

Gaddafi was the leader of the African Union at the time of his death and had introduced the Gold African Dinar as a currency for African oil trading and to challenge the U.S. Dollar and the Euro on the world stage. After Nixon took the U.S. off the gold standard, Kissinger established the petrodollar with the Saudis and OPEC and since then, anybody who didn’t like it has gotten stomped.

Gaddafi was loved by the people of Libya and most of what we have been told about him in the US and Europe has been total propaganda and the opposite of the truth. Like all others who have challenged the hegemony of the U.S. Saudi Petrodollar system, (Saddam comes to mind) Gaddafi got crushed. Let’s see how Putin does, he appears to be next in their sights.

 

[draggs]

Looks like hohols will be getting enough Leopards to equip 2 or 3 Western-size armored divisions, aka a full armored corps of 300-500 tanks. With Germany announcing they'll send 187, Poland sending 80, other Yerp countries sending smaller amounts, and now that Germany has made up its mind Poland will probably send more than the 80 it has pledged and the other countries will probably up their amounts as well. Looks like about 2/3 will be modernized Leopard 1s and the rest Leopard 2s

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Looks like hohols will be getting enough Leopards to equip 2 or 3 Western-size armored divisions, aka a full armored corps of 300-500 tanks. With Germany announcing they'll send 187, Poland sending 80, other Yerp countries sending smaller amounts, and now that Germany has made up its mind Poland will probably send more than the 80 it has pledged and the other countries will probably up their amounts as well. Looks like about 2/3 will be modernized Leopard 1s and the rest Leopard 2s

Leopard 1s are shit, but okay. They can have fun with the garbage.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Archive

Eastern Ukraine Braces for New Russian Offensive - The New York Times

archived 7 Feb 2023 09:59:19 UTC

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The Jew York Times is the semi offical mouthpiece of the State Department. The fact that they're now telling something approaching the truth speaks to how bad things have gotten. Still plenty of cope, the Russians are losing 10 men to every Ukrainian or something, but these kinds of articles are placeholders to maintain credibility and to prepare a narrative shift.

This is hilarious.

The article goes:

Exhausted Ukrainian troops complain they are already outnumbered and outgunned, even before Russia has committed the bulk of its roughly 200,000 newly mobilized soldiers.

And then:

When and where the new offensive will begin in earnest is still unclear, but Ukrainian officials are gravely concerned.

And concludes it with:

Russia is expected to punch hard, looking to reverse nearly a year of cascading failure.

You heard it, folks. The entirety of 2022, the entire war since the day it started, was a cascading failure for the Russians. Ukraine is winning.

And yet the much-battered enemy continues its cowardly advance.

 

[Foltest]

Russia has not collapsed, Putin is still in power. A Western embarrassment of a failed Ukraine (and no matter the outcome it is a dead state, running entirely on foreign aid) is a bigger deal and holds bigger consequences than a Russian failure.

hard disagree on this.
Saying that Ukraine is a dead state even if they win is just wrong.
Ukraine will be in bad shape when the war is over, but it is way better for Europe if they are not under Russian control.
it is in Europe intresset to not let it come under Russian control.

Leopard 1s are shit, but okay. They can have fun with the garbage.

It is a bit out of date, but calling it garbage is just false.
the Leopard I is a perfectly serviceable tank.
they are also going to get the Leopard 1A5, an upgrade version of the tank.

 

[The Ugly One]

A lot of countries have been trying to unseat the dollar as the reserve currency for ages. Reserve currencies are never permanent and it takes some inertia to change. This is perfect for that. The entire war in Libya was collusion between the French and the State Department under Hilary Clinton in order to prevent a competing gold backed currency. This isn't a Libya where you can institute regime change.

Now countries tired of Western domination are making moves to create a multipolar world.

The West's involvement in Ukraine has showed that it is possible to set up alternate hegemonies and that a unipolar world isn't a foregone conclusion.

The West has bet a lot against Ukraine. And honestly I think they're going to lose more than Russia has. They've revealed sanctions aren't all crushing and you don't have to play the West's games if you don't want to. Not to mention any Russian holding Ukrainian territory is a failure of policy.

Russia has not collapsed, Putin is still in power. A Western embarrassment of a failed Ukraine (and no matter the outcome it is a dead state, running entirely on foreign aid) is a bigger deal and holds bigger consequences than a Russian failure.

The USD's status was predicated on the USA being a reasonably good and relatively neutral steward of its currency - not perfect, just good enough to not make the planet nervous.

What we did with Ukraine was use our position as currency hegemon to use the dollar as a weapon. We unlawfully punished private banks and individuals by unilaterally seizing public and private assets, cutting off payments, and scuttling contracts. The USA is not at war with Russia. Russia's invasion of Ukraine did not violate any treaty we have with Russia, nor did it activate any clause in a treaty we have with Ukraine. A bank's access to SWIFT is not legally predicated on its home country's government ensuring its military operations are approved by Washington. Formally, an individual's assets in US banks are not supposed to be subject to seizure based on his home government's foreign policy.

The USA has spent decades positioning the dollar as the Universal International Currency. In one year, Biden has undone all that, repositioning the dollar as the American Imperial Denarius, a tool of power projection that turns the user into a US vassal state.

The Biden admin has fundamentally changed what the dollar is, which is why so many countries are working on charting a new path now.

 

[White_N]

Lets we say Libya/BRICK/Martians/that lunacy printing liberty dollar/your mother/Null have same amount of gold that USA has. USA has around 8500 tonnes in their sack, so our "kewlgoldcoin" will be backed by 8500 tonnes. Present price of gold: 60 millions USD/tonne.

So, our "kewlgoldcoin" will have upper cap of emmision around 5 100 000 000 000 USD in worth. Total market capitalization of Wallstreet is around 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

Kewlgoldcoin cap: 5 100 000 000 000 USD
Wallstreet: 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

Yeah, it's not a bug; it's a feature. Money will mean something again and will not be printed out of thin air and backed by the US army and military complex. And the inflated value of bullshit will disappear along with it.

 

[draggs]

Leopard 1s are shit, but okay. They can have fun with the garbage.

The coping and seething will continue until morale improves

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

hard disagree on this.
Saying that Ukraine is a dead state even if they win is just wrong.
Ukraine will be in bad shape when the war is over, but it is way better for Europe if they are not under Russian control.
it is in Europe intresset to not let it come under Russian control.

Compare anywhere in Kaliningrad to places across the border in Germany or Lithuania and you'll see the effects of Russian rule over a territory. Absolutely impoverished and run-down, dirty and depressing.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Let's see:

China: 332.0 tonnes/year
ruzzia: 330.9 tonnes/year
Australia: 315.1 tonnes/year
Canada: 192.9 tonnes/year

Hmm, so about 1,169 tons a year from Russia, China, and two Chinese-owned vassal states compared to...

United States: 186.8 tonnes/year

Great, America managed to beat Ghana in gold production.

Ghana: 129 tonnes/year.


Try to point which countries are exporting gold and which are buying it.

Even all world gold production will not be sufficent to repleace reserves of Germoney. And you still didn't get difference between production and ownership, but fuck that, ruzzia and Ghana strong.


And thats why EU do that. I still cannot belive how stupied ruzzkies was to give gas for years just for loose all earned money to west.

German gold will be used to buy Russian oil and gas to keep their industry from collapsing. Question is, what happens when the Germans run out of gold, but have another winter approaching in 2024?

Also, you've neglected to consider the subject of economic sanctions imposed on the warmongering western nations by the rest of the world. In other words, trading with America is going to be haram, even if they can offer gold instead of dirty green paper. It's going to be a pariah state, limited to trading only with other shithole nations like the UK. Maybe let them trade with the rest of the world so they don't completely starve to death, but institute an asshole tax of an extra 100% for anyone with a British or an American passport.

 

[The Ugly One]

Easy way: sell USD, buy what-the-hell is a brasilcoin or another.


Backed by what? Gold? How many gold had Libya or other shitholes with that desire?

You know what means "gold backed"? If country desires a gold bakced currency it must have possibility to echange every amount of that currency to gold.

Lets we say Libya/BRICK/Martians/that lunacy printing liberty dollar/your mother/Null have same amount of gold that USA has. USA has around 8500 tonnes in their sack, so our "kewlgoldcoin" will be backed by 8500 tonnes. Present price of gold: 60 millions USD/tonne.

So, our "kewlgoldcoin" will have upper cap of emmision around 5 100 000 000 000 USD in worth. Total market capitalization of Wallstreet is around 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

Kewlgoldcoin cap: 5 100 000 000 000 USD
Wallstreet: 40 511 800 000 000 USD.

You need more than eight times more gold than US have just to have equivalent of some stocks. Not the whole economy, not all stocks on world, not the all trade on the world but just some stocks.

Gold backed currency is destilated lunacy and I will not waste space on kiwiservs to wrote about it again. If anyone wishes to see gold backed currency please call me when you will figure it out how to make world-wide backed currency trully exchengable in 100% to gold with only 2000 tonnes of ruzzkie gold or their poor production.

Yeah, because the prices of currencies in other currencies remain constant in the face of massive economic shocks causing a massive shift in the demand for different types of currency, that's pretty much exactly what always happens in history.

If countries started auctioning off oil and various other key commodities in gold rather than dollars, the demand for gold would skyrocket, resulting in its value relative to every other currency and commodity taking off.

The problem with gold is that a financial system denominated in gold is extremely prone to credit crunches and recessions, since the gold supply is limited by nature and tends to not grow as fast as the economy.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

German gold will be used to buy Russian oil and gas to keep their industry from collapsing.

This month still only ruzzia sells gold from reserves. When this sgift will start?

In other words, trading with America is going to be haram, even if they can offer gold instead of dirty green paper.

xD

They still offer only USD and still Arabs are making deals. So when the mighty ruzzia will make their new reserve currency?

If countries started auctioning off oil and various other key commodities in gold rather than dollars, the demand for gold would skyrocket, resulting in its value relative to every other currency and commodity taking off.

Why they should start this anyway? Or: why gold, not silver/indium/shittium from outer space?

Regardless of your arguments, they tried to do it.

No, they didn't. "Golden african dinar" is hoax even dumber than amero.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

It is a bit out of date, but calling it garbage is just false.

"A bit"

Yeah okay. The Leo 2 has been out for how long, now? Nowhere near the same capability. Might as well start calling those "modernized" M60s modern MBTs aswell. The thing is still tissue paper as far as modern MBTs are concerned.

The only people coping are the people who act like Ukraine getting 2nd and 3rd rate hand me downs is anything more than the West telling Ukraine "Oh yeah guys, we totally have your backs. We'll get those Russians out of Crimea aaanyday now" while pocketing the cash.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

This month still only ruzzia sells gold from reserves. When this sgift will start?


xD

They still offer only USD and still Arabs are making deals. So when the mighty ruzzia will make their new reserve currency?


Why they should start this anyway? Or: why gold, not silver/indium/shittium from outer space?

No, they didn't. "Golden african dinar" is hoax even dumber than amero.

You still missed the entire point with your idiotic cope.

Why is Germany stockpiling gold and not dollars?

For some news, a bus full of Ukrainian draft dodgers got detained in Transcarpathia and sent back into the meat grinder.

Ukrainian border guards detained in Transcarpathia as many as 13 men of military age who were trying to escape from mobilization to Romania through the Carpathians.

They didn 't escape and now will go to fight for "freedom and democracy"

AZgeopolitics🛰🌏🌍🌎

🇺🇦🏃‍♂️Ukrainian border guards detained in Transcarpathia as many as 13 men of military age who were trying to escape from mobilization to Romania through the Carpathians. They didn 't escape and now will go to fight for "freedom and democracy"

t.me

 

[JambledUpWords]

So, more important than which side is winning the war, which side in this thread is winning the debate?

 

[Bartolomeow Kittensberger]

Compare anywhere in Kaliningrad to places across the border in Germany or Lithuania and you'll see the effects of Russian rule over a territory. Absolutely impoverished and run-down, dirty and depressing.

Your argument is punctured by the counterexample of thriving cultural, political, social, and economic conditions of Transnistria compared to its desolate neighbors

 

[PrimeRadiant]

It is a bit out of date, but calling it garbage is just false.
the Leopard I is a perfectly serviceable tank.
they are also going to get the Leopard 1A5, an upgrade version of the tank.

Its the same generation as the much mocked t-62. It will be useful as a assault gun and to support infantry, but its going to be outclassed by just about anything else in Ukraine.