Disaster South Africa in 'National State of Disaster' following collapse of power grid - Saint Mandela's legacy most affected


On Thursday, South Africa declared a National State of Disaster as the country's power grid continues to collapse despite scheduled power outages lasting up to 12 hours by the state run power company Eskom, which supplies 90 percent of the entire country's power.

According to a statement from the Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs, Dr. Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, "Considering the magnitude, severity, and progression of the severe electricity supply constraint."

The National Disaster Management Centre (NDMC) declared the "national state of disaster to prevent the possible progression to a total blackout from occurring and taking into account the possibility to augment existing measures already undertaken by the organs of state to deal with electricity supply constraint."

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According to NPR, "South Africa's power crisis is crippling one of Africa's biggest economies and threatening the reelection prospects of the ruling party: the African National Congress."

In order to prevent the collapse of the country's power grid, Eskom has scheduled load sheddings that last up to 12 hours a day. In South Africa the scheduled power outages have been going on for 16 years and, according to NPR, President Cyril Ramaphosa and "the ruling African National Congress Party has done very little to prevent its imminent collapse."

Small businesses make up one third of South Africa's gross domestic product. Eskom has relied up to 80 percent on coal to power their grids but maintenance and updating of the country's coal facilities has lagged over several decades. Several power plants have broken down from being overused from demand by the continent's most industrialized economy and its need for energy.

Al Jazeera reports Eskom also holds 400 billion rands in debt, or roughly $22.6 billion. Further, South Africa's debt as a country rests at $130 billion and half its population is unemployed.

In 2022, the World Bank gave South Africa $497 million to decommission its largest coal power plant and "convert it to a renewable energy source."

President Ramaphosa was originally scheduled to appear at this year's World Economic Forum but canceled to deal with the country's energy crisis. "Load shedding is more than an inconvenience, it is more than a disruption, it is a threat to the progress of our country and the development of its people," he said.

Ramaphosa has a scheduled state of the nation address on Thursday and "South Africans say they are hoping the address will have concrete solutions as neither the government nor the Eskom leadership has done so," reports Al Jazeera.

Another business owner originally from Zimbabwe, Prisca Horonga, said, "You have to wait until the power returns … we cannot afford a generator, so we lose clients all the time."

Horonga runs Corner Cafe in Cape Town where the load sheddings last roughly 10 hours a day.

Beautician Nadine Iqani said, "I am making a third of the income pre-the load shedding times, and I have clients shouting at me."

"It is just a nightmare … working long hours, including weekends, to accommodate clients," Iqani said.

NPR reporter Mpho Lakaje spoke with a small business owner, Mohato Mokoka, in a township of Johannesburg called Soweto. Mokoka's ice production business was failing due to scheduled outages, known as load shedding.

"We're sitting at a production rate now of about 10- to 15 percent from your 100 percent production," Mokoka said.


According to NPR, "South Africa's power crisis is crippling one of Africa's biggest economies and threatening the reelection prospects of the ruling party: the African National Congress."
Has your country ever shit the bed, and you thought, "this'll be bad for my job?"
 
Botswana is doing OK. What are they doing that everyone else isn’t?
Africa should be a paradise - everything grows year round and there’s wealth, minerals, everything. Instead it’s violence, disease, and incompetence

Our civilization stands on 1000 years of history.

1. The medieval era destroyed European slavery. An economy based on selling people will not produce shit. Glorify Rome and Hellenes all you want, but their world was stagnant and chaotic.

2. Good starting territory Cobalt and oil are only valuable with an advanced economy. Not being in a jungle or mega desert helps. Having a giant waterway connecting Sweden to Egypt helps.

3. Decentralized rule under a single church and free people allowed for competition between states and people. Stability without central planners or corrupt mega bureaucracies. The medieval era is what made Europe exceptional.

Botswana had little slavery, temperate/arid climate, and a history that allowed democracy to rise. They also rolled lucky on colonialism with the British who left them alone. They stand on a good foundation like W. Europe.
 
And as the lights go out and the cities collapse into anarchy the SA Government will be screaming about the "cursed legacy" of Apartheid and talking about how the Boers are evil for not helping them more.

South Africa is what happens when you take the racial marxist shit of Critical Race Theory to a national level.
They were handed a top-quality nation. A space nation, a former nuclear power, capable of anything, one with the best of everything. There is no blaming whitey here, this is pure black supremacy.

Imagine if this country still had nuclear weapons.
You know damn well they foresaw what was to come when they made the decision to disarm those nukes.

Indians are not that bad, they only need more potty training.
How many Indians does it take to tame 60 million Bantus?
 
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I gotta say, this isn't a job title that inspires a lot of confidence in me when it comes to handling infrastructure issues.
Feeling obligated that shit didn't just work; Rhodesia was "The Breadbasket of Africa," and all Mugabe ever did was beg the world community for food because now they can't feed themselves, let alone others. While South Africa actually competent to enough to have nuclear technology (they gave it up while getting rid of apartheid). These two countries didn't just stop working; they regressed to hellholes within a few decades.
To add my usual milsperging to this, under apartheid the South African military also prepped for war against the rest of the continent for obvious reasons, with the unofficial motto of "Thirty Days to Cairo". More than a few experts believed it was something other than hot air, much to their regret.

Not that the fighting prowess of the Boer has even been in doubt. Few people were able to force the British Empire to embark on two attempts at outright conquest, the second requiring the Eternal Anglo to literally burn the fields and salt the earth due to how effective the guerilla campaign was. Not to mention forcing everyone into concentration camps so the guerillas had no locals to hide with where of course disease, deprivation, and overcrowding killed countless innocents.

Oh, and I almost forgot the sectioning off of the countryside into mile-square grids with barbed wire.

But hey, the Empire got itself some diamond mines and an eternally ungrateful populace that thought Hitler was right about the English, so it was all worth it in the end.
You love to see radical political movements purge away entire industries or bureaucracies and put in new inexperienced people who have little to no training. It's a classic.
And then of course Mugabe handed out all the land to his cronies, who proceeded to shit themselves and do nothing with the land because they didn't care how productive it was, just that they had a lot of it.
So much hate here for African Americans...I dont understand why. Michael Jackson looked great with that Chimpanzee.
Elon Musk has done a lot for the USA. Oh wait, did you mean dark-skinned Africans?
 
So, according to a chap living there, this is just a formality to acknowledge the low-level state of emergency that has been going on for at least the past six months now.
No it's been going on for several years now, it's just that it started picking up about a year or so ago and we've had more or less permanent loadshedding for months now.

Though I can't help but think that they're looking at a complete grid collapse in a few years, along with an economy that just withers away due to an inability to sustain any sort of industry.
So here's what actually happened. In Apartheid white people built more than enough infrastructure to support the white population. Black people did not build infrastructure for themselves (to better understand how Apartheid was structured think about the American reservation system where you have semi-autonomous region ruled over by a ethnic group).
So 30 years after Apartheid next to no spending on maintenance or increasing capacity the grid is now under heavy strain, to the point where any issue is critical, and the critical failures are heaping up quicker than they can be fixed.

So yeah it seems likely that a collapse might occur, some region (Western Cape and Cape Town specifically) has implemented a several year plan to look at alternative energy sources and stuff so it comes down to how long the ANC can keep the plates spinning while solutions are very slowly implemented.

Used the money they got from mining to invest in education, industry and decent infrastructure because unlike the rest of Africa they seem to be capable of thinking more than a week ahead. Also lucked out in having governments that actually put the wellbeing of the nation above personal interests.
They also have a smaller population so social programs are more impactful than in a large country where welfare is just a money dump that acts to sustain the problem instead of fixing it.
They also have extremely strict laws and very horrible prisons.

Yeah the Tswana look weirdly way less aggressive than other tribes in the region despite also being Bantu. They also don't have the same chip on their shoulder against whites, some of the farmers who fled from Zimbabwe and South Africa settled in Botswana.
I don't think they were particularly colonised though.
The first written records of them seems to be that they were a mostly peaceful (by African standards) region, but it was other blacks who disrupted the peace during the Mfecane (basically the Zulus chimped out and a lot of force migration, war and butchery followed). They had some border skirmishes with the Afrikaners when they founded the Free States, but after a couple of years the Afrikaner states and the Twsane tribes signed a peace treaty and had fairly hospitable trade.

I gotta say, this isn't a job title that inspires a lot of confidence in me when it comes to handling infrastructure issues.
Black people like their kangs and shit.
 
It's basically just going on as usual. The big thing is naturally the power issue and then the economy is doing pretty shitty, but the economy hasn't been doing well since the 70s...
South Africa had a boom in the late 1960s and 1970s because the Suez Canal was closed from '67-'75. All traffic once again had to route around the Cape if it was going to Europe or take the dodgy route through the Straits of Malacca and into the East Indies which was full of pirates, over to the Pacific to the US West coast.
 
Indians are not that bad, they only need more potty training.
The problem arises, when there is enough of them in one place, they'll specifically hire and support other Indians; hindus are the worse of it, if you get them into your managerial class, kiss goodbye to competence and colour-blind hiring, those Brahmins are going to hire Brahmins.
 
So here's what actually happened. In Apartheid white people built more than enough infrastructure to support the white population. Black people did not build infrastructure for themselves (to better understand how Apartheid was structured think about the American reservation system where you have semi-autonomous region ruled over by a ethnic group).
So 30 years after Apartheid next to no spending on maintenance or increasing capacity the grid is now under heavy strain, to the point where any issue is critical, and the critical failures are heaping up quicker than they can be fixed.
The mistake everyone makes is thinking africans are "black people" they have 1000's of years of their own culture. They aint gonna be "my brother this" or "my sister that"

People keep talking about indians imagine a group of indians in the US all from different parts of india and they try to explain to a white dude how they are more or less brown then the dude next to them.

its like that family guy clip when peter says "look I m just saying put a jew next to an arab and I cant tell the differene"

Back to SA, yeah the whites built it and the black didnt maintain it because thats not their job their job is to take as much shit as they can and fuck the indians behind the ruling power in SA used to be fucking shoe salesmen let that sink in.

Also anyone in SA with any kind of education will get the fuck out.

Finally that mutu dude I know. He got into Tech back in 2001. he s an alright programer, does work for banks.

He used to moonlight in education and said every now and then he d have a female student that he felt had potental but they would just want to get a rich boyfriend and he felt his efforts were useless
 
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The doomer view is this, barring any Cape independence (where demographics can be consolidated to at least the Afrikaners and Colored), South Africa will continue to run into the face of entropy, and be reduced to the baseline condition that its Bantu rulers are comfortable with.

Then the ruins will be colonized by Indians and the Chinese, who will pay for the ruling class's way of life in exchange for resources and contracting rights (see Gupta), resulting in a neo-colonialist corporate uppercrust without even any real uplift for the remainder of its citizens that might have even been possible during White rule.

Ultimately the blame can be laid at the feet of the Afrikaner ruling class who wanted cheap urban labor and abolished the Bantustan containment states.
It's not like they had a choice. There was huge international pressure leaning on SA in the 80's.
 
It's not like they had a choice. There was huge international pressure leaning on SA in the 80's.
would you play sun city?

also i read fun article years ago.

back in the old days movie theatres would just throw way movie prints

This dude figured it out and started buying the reels of films. Which techinically belonged to the studios, the studios just felt it was cheaper to have the theatre throw them away than having them returned etc.

So it was like tape trading back before VCR, This guy tried to argue he was just dealing memorabilia but this other guy he sold to was taking these films to SA because of the boycott. This got heat on him
 
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I'm talking more recently. SA started taking pages out of Zimbabwe's book almost a decade ago and the country has been sinking further into the shitter since.

Since around 2018, white farmers have been attacked (various forms of assault, battery, and a few have been burned alive) and some have even been chased out of the country.
This has been happening way way before 2018. I remember my SA friends telling me about it back in 2007, we lived in UK and they were desperate to legalize their status there so they wouldn't have to go back, some literally feared for their families lives.
 
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would you play sun city?

also i read fun article years ago.

back in the old days movie theatres would just throw way movie prints

This dude figured it out and started buying the reels of films. Which techinically belonged to the studios, the studios just felt it was cheaper to have the theatre throw them away than having them returned etc.

So it was like tape trading back before VCR, This guy tried to argue he was just dealing memorabilia but this other guy he sold to was taking these films to SA because of the boycott. This got heat on him
While a fascinating tale I'm not sure why you quoted me in response.
 
While a fascinating tale I'm not sure why you quoted me in response.
I was agreeing that most people dont get the pressure that was being put on SA. movies were being shown in SA theaters and it led to a investigation on a dude selling old film reels.
 
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