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The Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, aka Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Association, is a nonprofit organization dedicated to "promoting, advancing, and supporting" science fiction and fantasy writing in America and beyond.

It was founded in 1965 by Damon Knight, an author most famous for writing the Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man", in an effort to ensure that J.R.R. Tolkien was fairly compensated for bootleg copies of Lord of the Rings being sold in the U.S.

Some very big names in fiction (whose reputations are otherwise clean) are members, such as Orson Scott Card, Michael Moorcock, George R.R. Martin, and Brandon Sanderson.

Okay, that's good. So why make a thread?

Well, it turns out that SFWA has a long and sordid history of members being pedophiles, child abusers, and all-around sex pests.

The Gruesome Twosome: Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley

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Walter Breen (1928-1993) was a writer and one of the most prominent and authoritative numismatists (coin collectors) of his day. One of his most famous works is Greek Love, published in 1964, which celebrates pederasty. He was also an outspoken LGBT and NAMBLA activist.

He was arrested for sex crimes against children on several occasions; first in Atlantic City in 1954, which resulted in a probationary sentence. His reputation as a chomo led to an intense debate over whether to ban him from a convention called Pacificon in 1963, known as the "Breendoggle".

He was later charged in 1990 and 1991, catching eight counts of molesting a 13-year-old boy. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison, but died of liver cancer in 1993.

Thus saith Walter:
“But why didn’t somebody say something! I wouldn’t have dreamed of doing it if I’d thought someone objected.”

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Breen was married to Marion Zimmer Bradley (1930-1999), a celebrated feminist and LGBT author known for works such as The Mists of Avalon and Darkover. She served as SFWA's vice president from 1978-1980.

Bradley knew of Breen's taste for little boys when she married him, and was not only cool with it, but enabled and committed it on their own children. She also personally prevented any investigation or notifying the authorities.

In 2014, their daughter, Moira Greyland, now an accomplished harpist and singer, wrote The Last Closet, a memoir of the abuse she suffered at the hands of Breen and Bradley. She revealed that she was the one who got Breen arrested.

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She claims that Breen would fly off the handle when she interrupted the "alone time" he would have with little boys, and that he would wander around the house exposing himself and zooted out of his mind. She also alleges that several of her father's victims subsequently died by suicide.

Bradley, meanwhile, would beat her, force her to perform lewd acts with Bradley's lesbian partner, and even tried to drown her on one occasion.

This was also recounted in podcast interviews with Justin Drown of Obscura, and with SomervilleDan (a notorious ween for lolcow and SFWA member Patrick Tomlinson).

Though SFWA bigwigs such as John Scalzi nominally condemned these two once the truth came to light, it was too little, too late. In her interview with Obscura, Greyland said that sci-fi and fantasy is all rooted in "weird sex".

Lo and behold, these two were far from the only abusers that SFWA has circled the wagons around.

Ed Kramer

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Edward Eliot Kramer (born 1961) is a prominent editor for SFWA authors and the founder of Dragon*Con, a convention surrounding scifi, fantasy, comics, and gaming.

His first arrest happened in 2000, when he was accused of molesting three teenage boys. Before this, he had a reputation for inappropriate relationships and always hanging around young boys.

He was put on house arrest while awaiting trial, but this only lasted a week once a teenage boy made a visit, which got him sent to jail. He was released back to house arrest in 2001 after an "injury" in custody.

This pre-trial detention dragged on for over a decade. During this time, numerous SFWA members rushed to his defense, and even started a legal defense fund for him. Harlan Ellison went so far as to compare the Gwinnett County Sheriff's office to the Spanish Inquisition, while Anne McCafferey and Darrell Schweitzer chalked it up to bigotry and anti-Semitism (this was in Georgia, so the only reason anyone there would have a problem with kidfucking is that they're unenlightened redneck bigots).

He took an Alford plea (essentially No Contest) on this charge in 2013.

His other offenses happened in 2011 when he met up with a 14-year-old boy in a Connecticut motel, which violated his probation; in 2017, when he was taking pictures of boys in a doctor's office; and in 2019, when he tried to hack a courthouse computer and police found CP on his personal computer.

Blogger and former member Vox Day claimed that SFWA president Mary Robinette Kowal was present at Kramer's sentencing, but never revoked his membership and even kept him on the board.

Samuel Delany

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Samuel Delany (born 1942) is a SFWA Grand Master. His literary works are known for "graphic descriptions of murder, child molestation, incest, coprophilia, coprophagia, urolagnia, anal-oral contact, necrophilia and rape." His most famous book, Hogg, is about an 11-year-old boy named Cocksucker being tortured and raped by a man named Hogg. Some excerpts:

“They call me Hogg because a hog lives dirty. I don’t wash none. And when I get hungry, I eat my own snot. I been wearin’ these clothes since winter. I don’t even take my dick out my pants to piss most times, unless it’s in some cunt’s face. Or all over a cocksucker like you. What I usually do is park the truck in the sun with the light comin’ in and piss my pants up somethin’ terrible.” The truck turned another corner; he dropped one hand from the carpeted wheel between his legs, hefted his meat around some – but I couldn’t tell if he was doing it or thinking about it. “Yeah, boy, all that nice hot stuff, running down my leg, and squirmin’ my ass around in it…I got worms, boy – had ’em ever since I was a kid. But I won’t get rid of ’em cause I like the way they make my asshole itch. I gotta drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of pizza pies and French fried potatoes to keep a gut like this and all them little fuckers fed. I got a hairy ass and it sure cakes up crusty. But I just don’t believe in wipin’ when I got a freaky little son of a bitch like you to eat it out for me. Now, how do you like that?”

He is also a regular reader of NAMBLA's newsletter.

His appointment to Grand Master was met with hosannas and praise by the scifi community.

Jo Walton, World Fantasy Award Winner:
"As a new writer Delany was a revelation. He’s gay and African-American and this intersectionality of experience gives his work dimensions that genre SF hadn’t seen before, and hasn’t seen enough of since. Delany’s worlds are notable for their complexity and solidity, their attention to class and sex and economics and gender and identity. Yet these things are always essential to the story of the characters—and it’s the characters and the world that shaped them that are memorable. Delany’s ability to evoke worlds from words is almost unrivaled.”
Cat Rambo, former President of SFWA:
“Delany is amazing. Moments in his writing blow me away, make me stop and marvel how he’s constructed them. He awes me with his virtuosity and courage in writing.”
Rachel Swirsky, Hugo Award winner:
“As someone who got to support Steven Gould in his choice of Delany, I’d like to start off by saying, “Yay!”

Cat Rambo

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Cat Rambo (born 1963) served as SFWA's president from 2015-2019, followed by one year as its vice president. In addition to being one of the oldest enby dangerhairs on the planet, her response to MZB being outed as a child abuser was whataboutism over Trump and Roy Moore.

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Patrick Tomlinson and funding frivolous lolsuits

SFWA loaned $100,000 from its charity funds to lolcow Patrick Tomlinson, who sued Cloudflare for dox on users of both Kiwi Farms and the Opie and Anthony Forums. Why'd he sue? Because they were calling him fat online, and they've been trolling him ever since he had a hand in getting them kicked off of Reddit.

He lost in the most lulzy way, now owing the site owner Quasi tens of thousands of dollars.

When Obscura revealed they were doing an episode on SFWA's crimes, Pat got curiously defensive.

Patrick has his own thread, so you can read all about him there.

David Asimov

The son of renowned sci-fi author Isaac Asimov (who was himself rumored to get handsy with women). In 1998, police raided his home in Santa Rosa, CA, and found a vast CP collection.

Arthur C. Clarke

I have never had the slightest interest in children – boys or girls. They should be treated in the same way. But once they have reached the age of puberty, then it is OK. If the kids enjoy it and don’t mind it doesn’t do any harm … there is a hysteria about the whole thing in the West.”
— as quoted in the Sunday Mirror, 1998.

SFWA's refusal to distance themselves from these monsters shows that they are a-okay with their behavior.

Moira Greyland says that she was paraded around to perform her music as "Marion Zimmer Bradley's daughter", but that all stopped when she came forward about the abuse she suffered at the hands of their bigwigs. She also blamed the social fallacies of geek culture, that outcasts, nerds, and rejects shouldn't be turned away again.

"Some 'poor strange misfits' are the Jeffrey Dahmers of the world. Or for that matter, the Walter Breens, who have less of a body count, because it takes them a lot longer to kill."

SFWA has decided, on multiple occasions, that their buddies and their shitty books were more important than the safety and dignity of children.

“[T]here’s a part of me…who can understand why those men could rationalize a) not immediately acting in the interests of a child being raped, b) not immediately going to the police, c) doing only the minimum legal requirements, d) acting to keep from exposing their organization to a scandal. But here’s the thing: that part of me? That part of me is a coward.”
— John Scalzi, former President of SFWA

Special thanks to:
  • Thomas Apostle and the Rascals at Opie and Anthony forums, for their brilliant detective work
  • Moira Greyland, for her courage to speak out and powerful story of seeking healing
  • Dan Mullen and Justin Drown, for their respective interviews with Moira
  • "Daniel" of Castalia House
  • Vox Day and Jon del Arroz, who were excommunicated from SFWA for being shitlords and bringing some attention to their misdeeds

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Appreciate the effort that went into the write-up.

The SFWA is beyond doubt an organisation that shelters and protects pedophiles. People should be aware of this when they ask for donations and member dues. Collecting incontrovertible they do as much and putting it in a single, easily accesible page is imporant for making this known to the public.
 
I start writing a book about aliens and now I see this. Wtf
do the aliens rebel against their government over taxes and tariffs in your book
"kramer" of course he is, just look at his fucking face. He makes der sturmer cartoons seem tame.
dumb question in hindsight. but jesus he is literally der jude, i might trace over his face in mspaint later and make a caricature out of it.
god i hate the bikes so fucking much
 
It's a shame, wasn't Harlan Ellison a founding member of the SFWA? I remember him complaining about some SciFi organization giving awards to writers posthumously rather than while they were alive.
Yes, and he was also a ginormous prick.

He told a fan who wrote him fan mail "if you want to thank me for my work, then stop writing to me, because you've interrupted me for having to answer your letter."

He got banned from the campus of Texas A&M for calling their ROTC cadets "the next generation of American fascists".

He mailed a dead gopher to someone who pissed him off.

He was notoriously litigious over perceived plagiarism, most notably regarding Terminator, claiming it stole from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, and an Outer Limits episode he wrote, "The Soldier From Tomorrow".

He groped a woman on stage at a convention.

Don't look up to him. He was a bastard to his bones.
 
Very Interesting thread Op, what is it with creative types?
Creative types mainly seek an outlet through which to express themselves. Much of that expression is based around making societal statements, either speaking strongly for or against something. Those dissatisfied with society for various reasons are therefore the most likely to be creative types, and that lends itself to those on the margins of acceptable behavior or views becoming creatives. Not only that, there is a certain requisite mentality in terms of being willing to explore and address human nature across a wide spectrum, either critically or glowingly. That further lends itself to the issue.
 
Any dirt on Victoria Strauss? She’s behind the blog Writer Beware, which the SFWA links on their website.

An Open Letter to The Writer’s Digest Annual Conference to Remove the Writer Beware™ Panelist, Victoria Strauss, from the 2015 Annual Conference (Archive)

Pretty tepid stuff compared to child abuse, but some purported unprofessional conduct from an arm of a "professional organization" is a little funny.

And Ellison was such an angry little gnome. I think about this video often.

 
Yes, and he was also a ginormous prick.

He told a fan who wrote him fan mail "if you want to thank me for my work, then stop writing to me, because you've interrupted me for having to answer your letter."

He got banned from the campus of Texas A&M for calling their ROTC cadets "the next generation of American fascists".

He mailed a dead gopher to someone who pissed him off.

He was notoriously litigious over perceived plagiarism, most notably regarding Terminator, claiming it stole from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, and an Outer Limits episode he wrote, "The Soldier From Tomorrow".

He groped a woman on stage at a convention.

Don't look up to him. He was a bastard to his bones.
I knew all about his other escapades & didn't care, many of them were based, except this part:
Harlan Ellison went so far as to compare the Gwinnett County Sheriff's office to the Spanish Inquisition,
WTF Harlan? I expected better than this from at least you.
 
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