Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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EU economy is going down the shitter and this year it will be even worse.
So when exatcly it will go down? When we will see skyrocketing unemployment in EU or something visable?

Russia defaulted on foreign debt because a shit-ton of money that Russia had outside of Russia was seized, Russia was cut off from SWIFT, couldn't get dollars, and then somehow expected to be able to pay regardless of those factors.
Oh, so sanctions HAVE some effects after all. Strange, few moments ago someone told us that they have no effects.

And I had hope that you know that money will not come back to russia, yes? Also SWIFT will not be uncutted?

IDK what Putin was expecting - he was beliving that he can threat West with nuclear war, can invade another country (after receiving warming that war will have side effects like seizure of assets) and STILL have his money? Pure lunacy.
 
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Oh, so sanctions HAVE some effects after all. Strange, few moments ago someone told us that they have no effects.

And I had hope that you know that money will not come back to russia, yes? Also SWIFT will not be uncutted?

I don't think anyone is trying to say that the sanctions have "no" effect, but the difference between an effect on paper and a tangible effect on the ground is two different things.

I personally don't really give a shit about SWIFT being uncutted (:story:) or whatever. The money not coming back to Russia is unsurprising but if that is the case then it's just going to encourage other countries to re-think their policies in terms of where they keep their national funds. Although you never know, it's possible many countries are going to stay cuckmaxxed like Germany who took the destruction of Nordstream on the chin and didn't let out a peep.
 
I don't think anyone is trying to say that the sanctions have "no" effect, but the difference between an effect on paper and a tangible effect on the ground is two different things.

I personally don't really give a shit about SWIFT being uncutted (:story:) or whatever. The money not coming back to Russia is unsurprising but if that is the case then it's just going to encourage other countries to re-think their policies in terms of where they keep their national funds. Although you never know, it's possible many countries are going to stay cuckmaxxed like Germany who took the destruction of Nordstream on the chin and didn't let out a peep.
I think there will be a fall out on that, but I think it's going to be after the war is over. The whole thing of it is, a lot of countries need to have a sort of economic casus belli to distance themselves from the US. If they do it now, it looks like they're siding with the "EBIL RUSSIAN RAPE NAZIS!". If they wait until after the war is over and the propaganda effort in favor of Ukraine starts to collapse, a lot of things Ukraine has been doing are going to start to get out there and it will be a different story.
 
The money not coming back to Russia is unsurprising but if that is the case then it's just going to encourage other countries to re-think their policies in terms of where they keep their national funds.
None country rethinked it to this day and parts of russian assets was taken away (not only frozen). Who have money to take it from EU or USA?

Germoney, France? They are in EU, they will take money from EU and put where?

UK? They keep most of their assets in home from centauries.

Mali, Niger? They didn't have money. They even didn't have own currency, they are still using CFA which is pegged to euro.

So - who will take his money and go home?

Although you never know, it's possible many countries are going to stay cuckmaxxed like Germany who took the destruction of Nordstream on the chin and didn't let out a peep.
NS I was smashed down months after it was turn off. NS II was never used. In this day we can safely say that Germoney still had gas (from USA mostly) and even price of NatGas is going down.

I think there will be a fall out on that, but I think it's going to be after the war is over
Who will stop trading with West? India or China? Good, more simply jobs for simple people in West. I didn't see any problems in that.
 
Should all be 2s and Germany should be making thousands of them for Ukraine. For free.
I can never tell with your posts if you're being serious or if this is an act or a schtick of some sort.

If you're being serious then all I can say is the sooner Germany realizes that the EU and all the faggot do-nothing countries it has in it is a net negative for it, the better
 
More proof the sanctions have done anything to Russia.


The Russian finance ministry predicted a 1% drop turns out it's not that bad.

The IMF has predicted actual economic growth for the Russian economy this year.

Also, it seems that the 300 billion in assets they're (the west) currently trying to steal and thieve is more like 36 billion only. That'll be why they've changes gears to steal from private citizens.

Russia is apparently nearing completion on a massive drone factory thats going to turn out improved and advanced versions of geran drones 24/7. Truly, russia is going to collapse.
 
Also, it seems that the 300 billion in assets they're (the west) currently trying to steal and thieve is more like 36 billion only. That'll be why they've changes gears to steal from private citizens.
More than 300 B are seized (they on paper are still property of muh russia, but frozen - none operations can be conducted by russia on them). 36 B are dispossessed - they aren't even on paper in russian hands and now they are property of someone else.

And private owned assets are also subject of sanctions - Soloviov will not have any house in Italy in near future. AFAIK now it is frozen, but will be dispossessed in some time. And this isn't calculated in the 300 B.

It will be hillarious when everyone realize that all that oil, gas, gold, palladium was given to West for free...
 
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Ah my bad, I assumed that a local copy of the article was preferred more than relying on sketchy archival sites which are just as ephemeral as not archiving.
 
Your big mistake is assuming the west thinks ukraine can militarily defeat russia. It doesnt. The purpose of the support for ukraine isnt to allow ukraine to win, but to humiliate russia and kill russians in the belief that this will result in regime change in moscow.

Ukrainian casualties are irrelevant to NATO.
Honestly, if the issue is to force regime change, there's no way that can happen without invading Russia proper.
Also, why not both? I think that the west is geopolitcally using this to weaken Russia and remove them as a threat, allowing them to focus on other theaters. But this ties into Ukraine winning and recovering its territories, if they only wanted to bleed Russia and weaken them they already did that several months ago, they wouldnt give offensive weapons and instead focus on defensive ones, keeping the Ukrainian state and military alive and cause Russia as many casualties as possible

Sure, i dont think NATO high command cares that much about Ukrainian casualties, but they care about the strategic theater. Allowing a substanial number of Ukrainian military asssets be surrounded without any clear benefit is clearly incredibly stupid strategically. Thats why i think that they have some sort of plan for Bakhmut, or that Zelensky simply disregarded their advice
Zelensky is just an attack dog. If the issue was to attack Russia , the mission would be for Ukraine to take control of all the disputed areas, and then just breathe down Putin's next and be the enemy at the gate. But right now, it looks like the issue is to keep Russia from making more gains so they have a way to reach Kiev, and possibly remove Zelensky.

And if NATO and its members didn't care that much about Ukraine, they'd just tell Zelensky "no" when he comes asking for more aid, particuarly more weaponry.
This begs the question "why"? Why is Russia such a threat to the West? Is it because its a threat to the Unipolar world order? If so, why?
Probably because there's folks in charge still in the Cold War in terms of how they see the world. If they were worried about communism, they'd be fighting China, but then they wouldn't be able to have access to cheap labor.

Any threat to the Unipolar order you speak of would probably be taken on more directly. What challenge is there, BRICS? As for the "why", all I've heard is that the US has forced its worldview on the world, more so than Germany and its Nazi Guilt, and if Russia can topple Ukraine as a NATO/US puppet, then it means that the world can have more than one power and America isn't the only country that can write the rules.

Funny enough, China is also trying to be that other world power that establishes order.
Why does the West believe unintended consequences, aka blowback, won't happen just because?
Because there hasn't really been much of a united front to take them on since WW2 or the Warsaw Pact. Even now, when Russia was sanctioned and shunned throughout the world, Russia is still pretty much dealing with the conflict by themselves in terms of the military, and all they've managed to do since the sanctions is an economic partnership and maybe some closer ties with CHina just to have a trade partner.
he West is being degraded and destabilized, not Russia.
Is this about how there's PTB destroying native cultures through migration and trying to create giant authoritarian welfare states out of some dystopia? And Russia is working to destroy TPTB? Because the only real destabilization has been the Conservatives in Great Britian who have seemed to not really get a Prime Minister to stick around from Cameron to Truss.
The West is losing, not making gains. At some point the West has to cut their losses if it wants to stay relevant.
Maybe this is just sunk cost fallacy then. Unless you believe that Ukraine is just some money laundering and major crime hotspot for powerful people so they have to keep Ukraine and the Zelensky regime alive lest Putin cause all the crimes to be revealed.
 
Have a feeling that this is not enforceable since basically the entire topic is exactly a slapfight.
Well, then that's a sign people should behave more, ain't it?
Is calling people vatniks and hohols provoking a slapfight for example?
Play nice, or don't play at all. There is no specific word that triggers a rule break, but if your post is one as such that it is seen (by mods) as trying to provoke a slapfight, then that's no good.

Arguments are allowed (be weird if it wasn't), slapfighting over it isn't.

As an example, you might find it useful to consider, "would this post get me threadbanned from A&N article discussion (not necessarily Ukraine related) or a thread in the rest of the site?". If the answer is yes, or maybe, then perhaps reword your post.

Another example, is the current mess that is a thread that is supposed to be about complaining about me. Most of the posts there (from both sides) merit a threadban. There's no real discussion there, just retards throwing insults at one another on a topic that has fuck all to do with the thread.

Worst comes to worse, appeals are possible (though reversal is not guaranteed).
Or intentionally posting fake shit just to cause a reaction?
That's covered by point three.
Or describing your opponents as trannies, nazis and homosexuals?
Is it a statement of opinion relevant to the point you're making? Or is it merely an insult?
There are literally thousands of pages that are just that.
And when the war started, you had hundreds of pages of only pro-Russia lunacy and sperging, tranny memes, but there were no slapfights due to the volume of vatnik shenanigans.
The new rules are to ensure things stay orderly. This thread is no longer going to be a containment thread, and neither will A&N one.
Ah my bad, I assumed that a local copy of the article was preferred more than relying on sketchy archival sites which are just as ephemeral as not archiving.
Local copy of an article is a requirment, but that is a requirement in the A&N version of this thread. Archiving said article and posting a link to it is a requirement in both of these threads (bar exceptions listed in the rulelist).

Local copy of an article here, that is an entire article, is a serious offense, and will be punished accordingly.
 
Local copy of an article is a requirment, but that is a requirement in the A&N version of this thread. Archiving said article and posting a link to it is a requirement in both of these threads (bar exceptions listed in the rulelist).

Local copy of an article here, that is an entire article, is a serious offense, and will be punished accordingly.

Why? That makes no sense. I could understand mandating full articles to be spoilered so they don't waste screen space, but this?
 
Play nice, or don't play at all. There is no specific word that triggers a rule break, but if your post is one as such that it is seen (by mods) as trying to provoke a slapfight, then that's no good.
why do mods care? its not something illegal or spam, so stop banning that jew from posting his kike ukrainian propaganda...

The new rules are to ensure things stay orderly.
go fuck yourself!

The new rules are to ensure things stay orderly. This thread is no longer going to be a containment thread, and neither will A&N one.
so where are we going to shitpost about the slawslapfight? and why didnt deer feeder make a post about it like he does for everything`? is this a case of jannies taking over? are we taken over?

Local copy of an article is a requirment, but that is a requirement in the A&N version of this thread. Archiving said article and posting a link to it is a requirement in both of these threads (bar exceptions listed in the rulelist).

Local copy of an article here, that is an entire article, is a serious offense, and will be punished accordingly.
Go neck yorus3elf. i hate jannies on a power trip, you are only here to delete spam and illegal shit...
 
"Annnd it appears that Coalburner McRetard has decided to unzip his pants, flap his hamster dick at the moderator and go 'nah nah nah'. Bold move, Cotton, let's see how this turns out for him..."
We have to abuse mods everytime we see them abusing their powers or the farms will turn into reddit...


also to stay on topic, those hills right across baaaakhuu look like they are important to the defense of the whole region, a shame if the vodka slavs take them from the jew slaws...
 
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