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Linux is the go-to operating system for people who want to make sure they have zero compatibility problems with laptop hardware.
Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month
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Linux is the go-to operating system for people who want to make sure they have zero compatibility problems with laptop hardware.
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Nigga Linux is just Android running on prepaid smartphones.
but you also said:
Just about every single zoomer and gen alpha in the world wants to be a YouTuber/influencer now, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if even elementary schools now have some rudimentary video editing class. Multimedia software is bigger than ever, you really can't discount its importance.
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You're not actually saying anything here, just trying to stir the nest further.
Normie zoomers don't even have powerful computers and aren't using Adobe Premier or anything fancy because it costs too much. It seems like the anti-Linux bunch in this thread thinks everyone uses Adobe or something and is locked into Windows and Mac forever. A kid or young adult with a powerful computer is the exception, it may seem normal because you're an exception and interact with exceptions online all the time.
Apple has done a great job of recognizing what normal people do and has catered to and herded them masterfully. It's very different from Windows but people transition over to them just fine, we're even at a point where some people have almost exclusively used Apple computers their entire lives since Apple's resurgence in the market.
No one is saying how dreadful of an experience it is to move from Windows to Mac despite the stark difference - or how a lot of software won't work or isn't as convenient to run on a Mac. This has become even more true as Apple shifts to their own chips.
Mac users don't use the Windows-only software or they figure out a workaround, which is what would happen for most people shifting over to Linux. It's really not this major pain in the ass to use not-Windows unless you're doing something quite niche like using CAD software. In which case keep using Windows, but if you're fed up with Windows for whatever reason then there are alternatives and saying how awful the alternatives are for this reason or another... well that's just like your opinion man.
This "normal people" focus may come off as some whimsical copium but people are shifting away from dedicated computers, a lot of people do all computer business through their phones and that's only increasing. Regarding zoomer wannabe influencers, they aren't making long ass videos with tons of time, they're using their phones to make TikToks, 'grams, Shorts 
etc.
Normal people are basic. The cheap laptops in stores are what normal people use and their specs are so low browsing and word processing is about all they can do.
etc.Normal people are basic. The cheap laptops in stores are what normal people use and their specs are so low browsing and word processing is about all they can do.
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Matt Damon
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That was pretty shocking - plenty of Linux distros still can't handle me closing my laptop lid (not even sleep mode or anything) without completely shitting the bed.
It's 2023, for Christ's sake.
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I'm not the one who brought up laptops as a use case for a painless switch to Linux. And for the record, my laptop usually has Powerpoint and Teams open.
I also think it's funny that after every Windows user in here told you all the Windows-natives applications they use, your response is to insist that the average user has never and will never ever use anything other than the browser. Just defies belief.
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Damn near every piece of commercial software not made in-house by Apple has a Windows version, despite no one using any of it. And it's been that way for decades now.
I guess every single software company just has a terrible business model.
I guess every single software company just has a terrible business model.
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Right on. As a pirate I aprove this message.
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I wasn't shilling Linux for laptops when recommending one check out what normal people do, I was reiterating how most people do most computer use in their browsers. You are all the exception.
The ultimate point being most people would be capable of doing their usual work if they suddenly were on Linux.
I'm not insisting a single Windows user in here use Linux or saying they would have no problems switching. You guys just seem to think you are somehow the average. By this logic, Mac would be a similarly hellish experience to switch to yet they tend to do pretty well.
Well yeah and there are laptops where it isn't an issue. If you had a dedicated distro with officially supported hardware this wouldn't be an issue. This is already a reality but not one someone looking for a cheap computer at the store would run into. This isn't a call for Linux to be at Best Buy, it's just pointing out the obvious.
ps Teams is on Linux
Matt Damon
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Linux is so open and full of choice that it's eerily similar to trying to nigger-rig a Hackintosh together.
So now not only does grandma need to give up her Windows software, but she needs a whole new goddamn computer with officially supported hardware to do it - entirely obviating the whole "give new life to your obsolete computer" thing.
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More hyperbole. It's "open" as in "open source." Like "free" as in "free beer."
and "free" as in "libre."
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Much like "just put Linux on your old computer and it'll work great".
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You will use ze browser and you will be happy.
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I don't think I ever said that in this thread but statistically it's a correct statement so... yeah sure. If grandma is fed up with Windows there is no harm in trialing Linux on her current or old computer. If it works it works, if it doesn't then you can undo it.
If she insists on getting a new computer then buy a model that is known to have great support.
I don't think anyone has said that in this thread either. It's just a fact that most people live in the browser and electron apps. If you want to use programs locally then for the vast majority of software it can be made to run on Linux, but that requires stepping outside of most people's comfort zone, much like killing programs via task manager or opening regedit.
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If it shits the bed every time she closes her laptop, I've just wasted an entire afternoon. I know that means nothing to Linuxfags because if they weren't troubleshooting grandma's computer they'd be at home troubleshooting another computer recreationally, but most of us have other things we want to do with our time.
If she insisted on getting a new computer, I'd buy her a Windows computer that has great SOFTWARE support.
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A cop out with theoretical gramgram. You can try it before installing anything and know pretty quickly if it's going to work properly or not. You can also show theoretical gramgram where the buttons are to do the usual stuff and let her do a test drive before committing.
I'm not going to keep doing a back and forth about this "what if everything doesn't go perfectly right!!!" scenario, you could say "what if grandma doesn't ever close her laptop?" because a lot of old people don't, it's effectively a desktop.
Linux is just another option for theoretical gramgram if she's fed up with Windows and her caring grandson may want to try to help her out by introducing her to these other options. Mac is on the table too but costs a bit more. She can try it in the store.
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This is not some hypothetical one-off "oh weird, there's some little-known compatibility problem with this obscure peripheral" scenario. This is a "of course your display won't work properly if you don't check an officially-supported hardware list" scenario, as YOU just clearly stated.
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Oh yes, why would ANYONE think that Windows users are the average, or the exception to your little rule of what "normal" people do with laptops?! What with only roughly 3/4 of the personal computer home market?!
And heres the sauce. And before you get autistic with the "desktop" gotcha.... that data factors in both desktop and laptop numbers for their statistics. If you want to look at mobile and tablet data, then the balance falls towards IOS and Android. Which as I and others have pointed out, Apple hands down has the seamless integration of all of their devices down to an art form. And if you're one of the people who will sperg over Android being a jacked and proprietary Linux distro for the sake of argument, you're even proving the point further. Tweaked Linux distros are great for lightweight computing devices, because they can be designed to do one thing, and do it well. The sub-$200 tablet and "netbook" market is chock full of those things, but you won't see them do anything remotely labor intensive as far as system demands go.
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If you think Teams and Office constitute a highly uncommon, exceptional use case for laptops, I'm starting to doubt that you have ever actually ever seen someone using a laptop.
There are lots of high-quality commercial applications on Mac, like Photoshop and Office. And from my experience, OSX compatibility with Apple hardware is not particularly troublesome.
I'm starting to think that the best way to maintain an old computer is to just leave Windows 10 on it.
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Right and it may just as well be a nonissue or she may not ever even close her laptop and so doesn't care. The only reason you'd even be doing this is if there was a problem to begin with.
My point was never that Windows won't be what you see in a public space, calm down. I guess it wasn't clear that I was reiterating that normal people don't use all of this specific software keeping people locked into Windows in particular.
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Nah, Linux is great for old computers. All you have to do is throw it away, buy a whole new computer that uses only specific Linux-compatible hardware, and then never use it to open anything but a browser.
It's such a versatile operating system!