Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[Toolbox]

I'm not a kiwifarms user but I found this while searching for sanctioned suicide. Someone close to me killed themselves and I found out that they were a user there. I don't really know if I have any point but I read some comments here defending the site and to me.. well it seems fucked up. The person I knew had some mental health issues but nothing that didn't have a good chance of getting through and there's no way browsing a suicide cult forum helped.

You're hurt right now and looking to rationalize what occured, I get it, but this isn't a great way to go about it. This is a discussion thread that was mostly a reaction to a Youtubers one sided hitpiece on the site. He had reason to make it, sure, but he got a lot of things wrong and some were willingly done so. Others do the same as they have done to our site as well. SS isn't a suicide cult. There ane certainly stupid people and poor moderators that enable that behavior but there are as many if not more people that just want a place to discuss their woes without being admonished. As the dogpiling goes on that one place is going away. That isn't the solution. I am sorry for your loss but you need time to mull over what has happened without getting in fights with random people online. From experience... that does not help.

 

[afounder]

If FC really has tinnitus, then I do sympathize with their pain, and can understand to an extent a young person's tendency to wallow in their pain.

Tinnitus is quite awful, and I had it, so I do sympathize with her there. Really hard to manage it and it can become unbearable at times.

 

[Beacon]

I'm not a kiwifarms user but I found this while searching for sanctioned suicide. Someone close to me killed themselves and I found out that they were a user there. I don't really know if I have any point but I read some comments here defending the site and to me.. well it seems fucked up. The person I knew had some mental health issues but nothing that didn't have a good chance of getting through and there's no way browsing a suicide cult forum helped.

I'm sorry for your loss.

But as questionable as the forum is, I can't say I feel it should be taken down. But a whole lot can be improved on there. Frankly, however, what happens with it doesn't concern me. On one hand, we have some decent users there, but on the other, there are toxic individuals who seem to have this crab mentality, and like other's have said, moderation needs to be improved and shit.

I hope you are able to heal one day, as great of a hole it's left you.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Meanwhile on SS:

 

[Peezus]

Meanwhile on SS:
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Are there any instances of her ever actually adding something productive to the conversation, or making any posts that would be considered a real dialogue with any other users? It seems like she uses every single post regardless of the initial subject matter as a vehicle to say the exact same thing over and over again. It becomes so predictable and boring to read again and again? Dominating every conversation with an insane post count is one thing but doing that in such a weirdly repetitive way is something else entirely. I wonder what her parents are like, and what FC would have been like if she hadn’t been exposed to the internet.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

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Did she write this in 8th grade study hall?

 

[iffywas]

Are there any instances of her ever actually adding something productive to the conversation, or making any posts that would be considered a real dialogue with any other users?

None whatsoever, in 18,249 posts.

It follows a familiar pattern.

- FC states her worldview as The Absolute Truth Which Applies To Everybody
- Somebody objects, usually politely
- FC tells the person who objects that they are a pro-lifer and they shouldn't be allowed on the site
- Other person objects more
- The FuneralCry White Knights arrive and slay everyone with their mighty swords
- R+S shows up and warns the objectors
- FC makes a new thread about how there are so many pro-lifers on the site
- Her fanbase validate her and make passive aggressive statements about whoever objected
- Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Are there any instances of her ever actually adding something productive to the conversation, or making any posts that would be considered a real dialogue with any other users?

From what I've seen, no. A bot could likely produce more useful posts.

 

[Beacon]

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Her "views", if they are legit, seem to be very black and white. Even during my nihilistic period, I wouldn't go as far as to say that death is heaven, or that life is true hell. Frankly, heaven and hell is a state of mind.

Sure, you can just simply kill yourself, but I'd argue that it's better to do it when you're in a more positive state of mind, lest you'll unlikely find peace.

I guess that's what nihilism does to you though...

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

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At this rate person will live to a hundred and die of natural causes.

 

[Dyn]

stop defending your little miscreant corner of the internet

Shut up retard he's perfectly welcome to defend his gay suicide community here.

LeftTitGalore, please fuck off if you don’t like SS.

Shut up retard he's perfectly welcome to dislike your gay suicide community here.

 

[afounder]

None whatsoever, in 18,249 posts.

It follows a familiar pattern.

- FC states her worldview as The Absolute Truth Which Applies To Everybody
- Somebody objects, usually politely
- FC tells the person who objects that they are a pro-lifer and they shouldn't be allowed on the site
- Other person objects more
- The FuneralCry White Knights arrive and slay everyone with their mighty swords
- R+S shows up and warns the objectors
- FC makes a new thread about how there are so many pro-lifers on the site
- Her fanbase validate her and make passive aggressive statements about whoever objected
- Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

It really does feel like an AI for real though.

Like the vast majority of her posts are the same and I just end up scrolling past them tbh. They just don't seem genuine either, I don't have a problem with her views, but it just the way it comes across. I'm sure she's an alright person to be around, but the way she comes off on the forum is rather strange.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Looks like registration is open again. Also, another glowing review of Kiwifarms investigative journalism

source (a)

 

[muffin123]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed how many of the new threads and posts that’ve been made recently on SS, are users randomly mentioning that they’re trans? Never seen so many troon posts on there before.

 

[Dyn]

Looks like registration is open again. Also, another glowing review of Kiwifarms investigative journalism

Motherfucker didn't say we also dox better than the NYT.

 

[LeftTitGalore]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed how many of the new threads and posts that’ve been made recently on SS, are users randomly mentioning that they’re trans? Never seen so many troon posts on there before.

where would they be, if not on a forum for suicide?

 

[thegooddoctor]

CTB: cease to breathe OR catch the bus (commit suicide)
SS: Sanctioned Suicide
SI: survival instinct
SN: sodium nitrite
N: nembutal

That's all I know but there's tons more.

Thank you for clearing that up, also late but excellently concise and detailed OP, SS as a website is depressing and ghoulish but demonising it as some revolutionary new demonic entity is pointless. Honestly I’m really not up for advocating sites like these because they are admittedly quite ghoulish and suicide websites are obviously depressing entities in of themselves. However removing them is a stupid idea as sadly I think if people really want to end their lives, I think they should be allowed to If they feel there is no other alternative, It’s almost crueler to force them to stay alive if they don’t want to. ‘My body my choice’ is very apt to this discussion.

Tinnitus is quite awful, and I had it, so I do sympathize with her there. Really hard to manage it and it can become unbearable at times.

I can attest, I think she’s going about In the most obnoxious way repeating the same points ad nauseaum 10,000 times but I can sympathise for her situation. I don’t think it makes her a fagola if it brings her to near death as everyone’s mental constitutions for better or worse are different.

 

[Beacon]

Thank you for clearing that up, also late but excellently concise and detailed OP, SS as a website is depressing and ghoulish but demonising it as some revolutionary new demonic entity is pointless. Honestly I’m really not up for advocating sites like these because they are admittedly quite ghoulish and suicide websites are obviously depressing entities in of themselves. However removing them is a stupid idea as sadly I think if people really want to end their lives, I think they should be allowed to If they feel there is no other alternative, It’s almost crueler to force them to stay alive if they don’t want to. ‘My body my choice’ is very apt to this discussion.

Personally, if they want to take the site down, they simply just need to ensure they eliminate the need for depressed folks to even be on the site in the first place.

I'm not saying we should just cater to their subjective expectations on their utopia, but if that's possible, I guess sure! Go ahead and make some changed, but probably don't spoil them. Otherwise, they simply need to be taught how to cope and overcome their suffering more efficiently, using some of Nietzschke's and Camus' principles. After all, we suffer for a reason.

(Yes, I'm already aware of the nuances to my words here, but... my point still stands.)

I can attest, I think she’s going about In the most obnoxious way repeating the same points ad nauseaum 10,000 times but I can sympathise for her situation. I don’t think it makes her a fagola if it brings her to near death as everyone’s mental constitutions for better or worse are different.

Agreed; I knew a person who goes by BridgeJumper/BridgeInTown, and she dealt with a fucked up condition in which she suffered from constant debilitating vertigo, and healthcare was fucking her over. And she didn't act this bitter. She killed herself eventually though...

 

[dick brain]

Thank you for clearing that up, also late but excellently concise and detailed OP, SS as a website is depressing and ghoulish but demonising it as some revolutionary new demonic entity is pointless. Honestly I’m really not up for advocating sites like these because they are admittedly quite ghoulish and suicide websites are obviously depressing entities in of themselves. However removing them is a stupid idea as sadly I think if people really want to end their lives, I think they should be allowed to If they feel there is no other alternative, It’s almost crueler to force them to stay alive if they don’t want to. ‘My body my choice’ is very apt to this discussion.

Personally, if they want to take the site down, they simply just need to ensure they eliminate the need for depressed folks to even be on the site in the first place.

I'm not saying we should just cater to their subjective expectations on their utopia, but if that's possible, I guess sure! Go ahead and make some changed, but probably don't spoil them. Otherwise, they simply need to be taught how to cope and overcome their suffering more efficiently, using some of Nietzschke's and Camus' principles. After all, we suffer for a reason.

(Yes, I'm already aware of the nuances to my words here, but... my point still stands.)

Don't get it twisted, they don't want to take the site down. They want to make hosting and/or posting on the site a felony.

Imagine pissing away your first amendment rights over the political opinions of a professional music engraver who needed to virtue signal to meet his bongistani social credit quota.

 

[Beacon]

Don't get it twisted, they don't want to take the site down. They want to make hosting and/or posting on the site a felony.

Imagine pissing away your first amendment rights over the political opinions of a professional music engraver who needed to virtue signal to meet his bongistani social credit quota.

Yes, can agree on that. Testicle kinda made some flawed judgements and twisted it in a way it is black and white, like making the people on there look like individuals with demonic intentions.

While I do have issues with a lot of its members these days, I consider them to just be misguided and just... utterly miserable and nihilistic. And yes, even the admin himself. This isn't necessarily them wanting people to die, but more of the fact they just see death as the only solutuon... and misery loves company. That is all.

Both sides are dogmatic in their black and white thinking, and that is basically the problem. Rather than simply go at eachother's throats, it's arguably better to just work together in finding a middle ground.

At this point, it really is how it is... Contrary to the popular narrative on the forum, I might as well consider SaSu, as of late to become more pro-suicide. Stop-SS and FixThe26 is Pro-Life.
If they can come to an understanding, then it'll become what it's meant to be: pro-choice. And if there's balance in that, there probably wouldn't have to be such a need for controversy.

OF COURSE... I'm just being idealistic and my take is rather crude, and things often never tend to last forever; it'll just be an endless cycle, in which it could end up a slippery slope.