Hobbies ruined by other people thread - And corporations, and trends, and so forth.

[Smar Mijou]

This thread made me realise a lot of my hobbies over the years have been bastardised by the troons. It seems like fierce gatekeeping and outdoor hobbies are the only way to keep yourself sane. Keep fun things away from the internet.

These people need to, as the kids say nowadays, "touch grass" I.E, go outside and explore nature and reality for once in their lives. It would probably be a huge benefit for their mental wellbeing.

This is because modern digital electronics require zero knowledge beyond operating your credit card to buy some starter kit.



I am not gatekeeping because I saw these people and they are willfully ignorant. They dont have a photodiode, or an LCD display, they have a photodiode module and an LCD module both of which come with useless software libraries that produce bloated and slow code. I love that I can program a microcontroller in C++, Python or scratch, but I also know what I cannot do in these languages that can be done easily in C. And I know how to solve problems using analog circuits because sometimes they are the best solution. What drives me mad is their holier-than-thou attitude when you dare not asspat their skills of assembling ready made modules and merging a few example codes.

These people usually stop at digital because you can explain digital logic in an hour using just a few crayons. Analog tech requires you to master a lot more knowledge like linear algebra before you can build the simplest things. Ask a maker how do you calculate the resistor value for a led and they will give you a deer-in-the-headlights stare. So naturally the Non-digital part of your hackerspace was free of these crazy morons.

I am not a maker. I do not make things from a ready made recipe. I am a designer, an engineer, I analyse the problem and design a best solution using a wide range of tools that take ages to master.

I've learned alot over the past few years from basic DIY and Hackerbox type kits, and you can make some cool stuff with them, but I agree, the more "analog" type stuff is certainly more fun to tinker around with, while the newer modular type stuff amounts to playing with Legos. I've had fun playing around with some hexadecimal editing and machine level code, and BASIC. Haven't greally had the time to learn any high level programming languages with any sort of proficiency.

Disney got to big and too powerful, it hooved up companies for a single IP and it's ended up trashing the media market. for a while they where buy the company not the IP and then a lot of IP's where just tossed or left to die, and others where changed to fit in with the larger company.

Disney is the poster child for why antitrust/antimonopoly laws exist and should be enforced. Along with their almost complete dominance of modern entertainment, they've been continually lobbying and abusing copyright laws for decades in yet another symptom of the gross perversion of laws and regulations that are far from their original intentions. Their copyright on Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse expires at the end of 2023/beginning of 2024 and their corporate lawyers are having shitfits over it. Undoubtedly they are furiously working behind the scenes to get the copyrights extended yet again, because Di$ney. And they're smart, there's a reason why in the past 10 or so years all of the mainline Disney productions have the Steamboat Willie Mickey character featured prominently in the intro montage, and has appeared on more merchandise. It's not for the feel good nostalgia, they're trying to build momentum and establish precedent so they can have more ammo in their probable copyright fight with congress. Given the current anti-Disney sentiment, there's a somewhat decent chance that the copyright will expire, and I'm certainly hopeful that it does, if only to show massive corporations that they cannot own everything in perpetuity forever. The possible loss of the Fantasia era Sorcerer Mickey in 2036 would be an especially delicious bit of schadenfreude.

 

[deerPropaganda]

find these women who fetishize serial killers (and they are all women, almost always) deeply unsettling. I think them being put off by the school shooter thing is because it reminds them of notable incel types who have killed people in the past.

Sounds like something someone who never got any pussy would say.

Spoiler: No, but seriously

The reason i got into it was so i could talk to females, and then I got too deep when I learned about shooters. It's over for me.

 

[Ol' Scabby Knees]

I am more surprised that Furbies are still a thing ANYONE cares about.

in many ways they're the perfect storm of multiple widely seen autistic special interests: old electronics, vintage/retro stuff, 90s stuff, toys, circuit bending, robotics, textile art (the overlap with knitters and crocheters is massive, and many people sew furbies or for furbies), and since they're made of simple shapes and easy to draw the collectable pins and bootleg redbubble merch cottage industries have its claws in them as well. the most shocking is that there are "customizers" such as the person i quoted who have made big enough names for themselves in the fandom that they can sell furbies they've altered for a massive, MASSIVE markup.

 

[Fag Albert]

I miss when the dynamic of fighting games was skinny white guys and fat black guys talking shit to each other at an arcade while they both got their shit pushed in by one, even fatter asian kid.

 

[Mad Mamba]

I miss when the dynamic of fighting games was skinny white guys and fat black guys talking shit to each other at an arcade while they both got their shit pushed in by one, even fatter asian kid.

Pretty much. I suck hardcore at fighting games, but I feel bad for the few non-retarded fans of them for being stuck in such a miserable shitheap of a fandom.

 

[glass_houses]

Any type of pop culture fandom. Anime, manga, Western comics, Western animation, movies, it's all been completely ruined by wokism. I've been trying to get back into contemporary comics for instance; it's all fucking horrible, badly written shit and no one actually likes it or enjoys reading it or even buys it, but they expect it to be Woke: The Comic regardless. I look at my collection of gloriously shlocky 1990s era X-Men and I just can't figure out where it all went wrong, and fun started being politically incorrect.

It's impossible to even discuss old books on book forums because you're obligated to point out that any volume written more than five years ago is problematic and insert-ist-and-phobic here and apologise for liking it anyway. Any sort of deep analysis and discussion of the environment and culture that spawned it and succeeded it is invariably overtaken by endless lamenting and circle jerking about how awful the author was for not being progressive enough, even if it's an author who was, for his time, very progressive indeed.

Studying the cultural trends of the past, no matter what those cultural trends are, always ends up the same way. Are you interested in, say, corsets, and the history and making thereof? Be prepared for half your time to be taken up in railing about how they're symbolic of the suppression of women. You're interested in survival living and primitive houses? Never mind that someone's spent six months building a traditional hut out of mud bricks by hand in the middle of the fucking rainforest, what matters is that man is culturally appropriating insert-tribe-here by building the fucking house to begin with.

Every few years I drift in and out of a local alternative spiritualist group for women. Last time I went there, what do you think I saw? That's right, a fucking troon! And all the women there fawning over him, like wearing a skirt is some kind of major life achievement. Fuck that shit, I'm not going back.

There's a shitton of places I'll never go back to because woke. I used to be progressive when I was a teenager, but then I had to live that shit and let me tell you, it's easy to cry "Islamophobia!" when you've never actually had to interact with a Muslim male.

 

[Electric Mortar & Pestle]

I miss when the dynamic of fighting games was skinny white guys and fat black guys talking shit to each other at an arcade while they both got their shit pushed in by one, even fatter asian kid.

It was much more fun when you really just had to learn by watching people who knew what they were doing in person and sussing what to do when it was your turn to get on the sticks.
Nowadays, characters are figured out during the fucking network tests, and you can watch thousands of autistic hour-long guides on how to play a character the same generic cookie cutter way.

 

[TheLastFart]

It was much more fun when you really just had to learn by watching people who knew what they were doing in person and sussing what to do when it was your turn to get on the sticks.
Nowadays, characters are figured out during the fucking network tests, and you can watch thousands of autistic hour-long guides on how to play a character the same generic cookie cutter way.

That sounds familiar, i remember having fun playing games online, but nowadays everyone wants to be the god damn ultra pro. Pushing casuals players outside, because no one has fun watching their character get demolished in infinite combos. I think the first time i experienced that was with skull girls where i played through story mode with a couple characters and tried afterwards to play random online matches and got the snot beaten out of me mercilessly until i stopped playing the game altogether.

Even in games that should be casual, like Diablo 2 Resurrected where i tried to play with friends, but there was of course this one guy who has played every character for 100s of hours and told everyone else how shit their build was.

 

[Fag Albert]

It was much more fun when you really just had to learn by watching people who knew what they were doing in person and sussing what to do when it was your turn to get on the sticks.
Nowadays, characters are figured out during the fucking network tests, and you can watch thousands of autistic hour-long guides on how to play a character the same generic cookie cutter way.

For me there was a sweet spot between after people stopped doing gay shit like trying to sell tapes of matches but before "fighting game influencer" became a thing. That period where you could go on forums and people would still try and help each other out and get better, but overall knowledge was still pretty slow to spread.

 

[Premium Gonzo]

Even in games that should be casual, like Diablo 2 Resurrected where i tried to play with friends, but there was of course this one guy who has played every character for 100s of hours and told everyone else how shit their build was.

And that's why i play solo, i don't miss the faggotry from online the old battle.net servers were good though.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

That sounds familiar, i remember having fun playing games online, but nowadays everyone wants to be the god damn ultra pro. Pushing casuals players outside, because no one has fun watching their character get demolished in infinite combos. I think the first time i experienced that was with skull girls where i played through story mode with a couple characters and tried afterwards to play random online matches and got the snot beaten out of me mercilessly until i stopped playing the game altogether.

Even in games that should be casual, like Diablo 2 Resurrected where i tried to play with friends, but there was of course this one guy who has played every character for 100s of hours and told everyone else how shit their build was.

Had a friend who was into Street Fighter and the whole scene is boomer central. The bar of entry is so high most are dudes in their 30s and 40s who have been playing since the 90s. Its a miracle anyone younger is willing to put the time to start from scratch when it means getting railed for months just to start winning random matches but it has it niche, i personally can't get into fighting games and is a bummer because i'd be a nice refuge. Younger people seem to go more for anime fighters and smash.

 

[Nekoi.Inukuma.00]

I am more surprised that Furbies are still a thing ANYONE cares about.

in many ways they're the perfect storm of multiple widely seen autistic special interests: old electronics, vintage/retro stuff, 90s stuff, toys, circuit bending, robotics, textile art (the overlap with knitters and crocheters is massive, and many people sew furbies or for furbies), and since they're made of simple shapes and easy to draw the collectable pins and bootleg redbubble merch cottage industries have its claws in them as well. the most shocking is that there are "customizers" such as the person i quoted who have made big enough names for themselves in the fandom that they can sell furbies they've altered for a massive, MASSIVE markup.

Look up "Long Furby". The DIY scene for modifying Furbies is ridiculous. Had a friend in HS who liked turning stuffed animals into 'borgs, who jumped into the Long Furby obsession. Look at the horrorshow that is Etsy.

 

[TheLastFart]

Look up "Long Furby". The DIY scene for modifying Furbies is ridiculous. Had a friend in HS who liked turning stuffed animals into 'borgs, who jumped into the Long Furby obsession. Look at the horrorshow that is Etsy.

Thanks, i was lacking new nightmare material.

 

[Premium Gonzo]

Look up "Long Furby". The DIY scene for modifying Furbies is ridiculous. Had a friend in HS who liked turning stuffed animals into 'borgs, who jumped into the Long Furby obsession. Look at the horrorshow that is Etsy.

Legitimately some of those are so fucking twisted and adorable at the same time.

This is my favourite one so far

 

[Echo_Ender]

Had a friend who was into Street Fighter and the whole scene is boomer central. The bar of entry is so high most are dudes in their 30s and 40s who have been playing since the 90s. Its a miracle anyone younger is willing to put the time to start from scratch when it means getting railed for months just to start winning random matches but it has it niche, i personally can't get into fighting games and is a bummer because i'd be a nice refuge. Younger people seem to go more for anime fighters and smash.

Most fighting games are like this, unfortunately. But I'd rather deal with Street Fighter Boomers all day than deal with the Autistic Furry Troons that make up "Competitive Smash Bros" these days.

The only genre I've seen be really welcoming of newbies layely is, weirdly enough RTS games.

It's pretty easy to find someone willing to show you the ropes on Age of Empires 2 (Got a modern remaster), Supreme Commander (Has community run servers), or Dawn of War (Lots of 40k fans still supporting it).

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

unfortunately.

I for one understand not wanting zoomer hordes storming their niche. Sometimes gatekeeping is good and necessary, the older guys i met into SF seemed pretty chill, they are not unwelcoming outside of humilliating newbies through gameplay.

RTS has always been chill except maybe starcraft, mobas suck up most of the hostility and screaming brazilians.

 

[Premium Gonzo]

Well it's official Neopets is now starting to get ruined for me. It's a kids site for cute fantasy pet animals , no one gives a fuck about having nigger hair. It's not real...

The comments are just as cringey, fuck i hate people i just wanna play dress up with my imaginary Dragon thing and play the left over flash games.



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[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

Normies took anime, i was bullied for liking basic shit like naruto in middle and high school, but now its just seen as normal. Also all the new shit is cringe and gay, i cant watch it anymore. Too many people i know irl that have coombrain bc of 2d waifus.

True crime is becoming more popular with woman which would be a good thing for me, but I scare them off when I start talking about serial rapists/school shooters. They only like dahmer cause he's a fag.

theyre all about it till u bring out the berdellas and corlls and the franklin credit scandal

 

[Looney Troons]

I like Warhammer 40,000. A lot. I’m fairly well-versed in the shitty lore, play the video games (why, Darktide, why?), and now that I’m not poor, I wanted to get back into the tabletop game since I didn’t need to rely on using a friend’s army. There are a few hobby shops littered around the city, so I decided to hit one up this past Sunday after doing some research.

Fuck this fanbase though. Seriously. The absolute worst.

I decided to go this day because there was a 40k tournament going on, I figured I could watch and try to come to grips with the new, stupid rules. I’m not your average comic book guy or someone you’d see in a hobby shop, so I started receiving weird stares as soon as I walked in. These dudes stopped everything they were doing for a good 30 seconds, including speaking, to look at me. At this point, I’m not sure if I’m allowed to be there so I head to the unmanned front counter.

After a solid three minutes, which felt like an eternity, an absolute sea lion of a man waddles up to me and asks how he can help. I asked him if I was allowed to be in the store today, and if it was cool if I watched and bought some 40k minis. This guy was the human embodiment of the WELL ACKSHUALLY meme and started quizzing me on 40k stuff - my favorite chapter, etc. He wasn’t doing it because he was curious, he was trying to make some sort of statement which was unknown to me. I didn’t answer him, I just opted to leave.

As the door closed, I turned back around and the sea lion man had returned to his people, indistinguishable from the masses gathered around the tables and dioramas.

I was trying to do my part and support the local business, but it’s fine. I can order directly from Games Workshop or Amazon too. Fucking tabletop nerds.

 

[Sugriva]

it really is more dull than it sounds, basically "SOMETHING" happened to an unnamed, unspecified person (and no proof was posted anywhere) which spurred all the engagement hungry big name fans to post insane rambling screeds such as this one (sorry it's cut off, it goes on for several more paragraphs in the same vein)
the "FURBY ART IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY" shit coming from them is pretty rich since they sell unlicensed furby merch on redbubble

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