FB 5/28 CWC responds to a bully named Johan

[Sanae is a slut]

It's also disturbing that Chris has no sympathy for someone with AIDS. He pretty much mocks Johan for dying of AIDS.

Yeah, Chris you sure are the bigger, better (wo)man. I bet that lesbian couple will love to be impregnated by someone who taunts people with AIDS.

What makes it even funnier is how Chris doesn't seem to realize how this "lesbian couple" would be willing to even consider getting impregnated by a guy with AIDS instead of him.

This completely flew over Chris's head when the trolls issued this challenge to him.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

It's also disturbing that Chris has no sympathy for someone with AIDS. He pretty much mocks Johan for dying of AIDS.

Yeah, Chris you sure are the bigger, better (wo)man. I bet that lesbian couple will love to be impregnated by someone who taunts people with AIDS.

Chris just doesn't have much empathy and was probably too angry that a male JERK took his chance of hot lesbian sex away to consider how anyone might feel.

 

[CharlieBrowns]

this "lesbian couple" would be willing to even consider getting impregnated by a guy with AIDS instead of him.

I would take the risk, personally.

 

[timtommy]

No, Barb is fucking bonkers. When Chris resisted moving down to sleeping in her room, she flipped her shit and wrecked his room. She flipped furniture over, just wrecked everything.

The only reason I hesitate calling her "violent", is that she hasn't directly struck Chris, as far as I know.

Barb rules with threats and emotional manipulation. She threatens suicide, while at the same time she tells Chris it's his fault (yer killin ur momma!). They get along, day by day, just because Barb enforces that sort of setup.

There is still something there in @Tennis-Ball-Tony's point, I think. Barb has the choice, at any point, of saying "fuck it, Chris, get out.", and Chris would have to leave and make it on his own. And she has never done that, or as I understand it, has there ever been that high a risk of that happening.

The point isn't to suggest another mother-of-the-year award for Barb. It's just that once Barb goes, that probably won't happen to Chris again. As you say, there are various people who can help Chris, and some probably will. But they will probably help him in a fairly arms-length way. Whatever sense of belonging, being wanted or needed, or having someone there for him all the time, he gets from Barb, he will probably never get again.

I think you're reading the cwcki too literally.

Look, bills are easy to pay. They come in the mail (or via email nowadays). They say how much you need to pay and they give you a little field where you can fill in your credit card and mail it in. (Or pay it online.) It's not hard. People who think Chris can't do this probably also believe Chris can't scratch his ass without us knowing about it.

People who read the cwcki think they have a good handle on Chris' daily life, and that simply isn't true.

Chris pays bills now. It's not just theoretical. Not because he's a paragon of adult responsibility, but because paying bills is not hard in the first place.

Edit: In retrospect, this seems like I'm focusing too much on merely the mechanical aspect of paying bills, and not enough on the budgeting aspect. Chris pretty trivially has the budgeting part down. It might not be obvious to everyone, but Chris has been getting the same tugboat for a long time. He's been paying about the same bills for a long time. It's not a difficult concept to understand "I have X dollars and Y dollars worth of obligations", even for Chris. Chris pretty easily manages to handle that. Chris begs for money because suckers fall for it, not because he's having actual problems.

The biggest risk is that he might forget about a particular bill. But as noted above, that's not really that likely, considering bill notices and emails and whatnot.

Oh yeah, he's going to be poor as shit.

I agree completely. There is also a sense that bills are "fuck up once and your screwed". That's not really how it works, in most cases. Suppose he forgets his electricity bill one month, or doesn't have enough money left over to pay it. They are not going to shut his power off the next day. They will send him a reminder notice, maybe tack on a couple bucks of interest, and he will pay it as soon as the tugboat gets in.

Since he will always get his tugboat reliably, in order for Chris to get in real trouble, he will have to heep looking at the bills coming in and saying "nope, not paying that."

 

[DragoonSierra]

The one constant is that Chris will always fail at everything. No matter how simple the task.



And Chris was under no duress in saying it. It may have been scripted, but it was of things that Chris already believes very strongly.

And I'm sure that Chris will become quickly wear out his welcome with whatever kind souls may help him with of his demands and his foul treatment of them. And whatever place they may find for Chris, Chris will fight it every step of the way because it will never be up to the standards of his royal lineage.

There is still something there in @Tennis-Ball-Tony's point, I think. Barb has the choice, at any point, of saying "fuck it, Chris, get out.", and Chris would have to leave and make it on his own. And she has never done that, or as I understand it, has there ever been that high a risk of that happening.

The point isn't to suggest another mother-of-the-year award for Barb. It's just that once Barb goes, that probably won't happen to Chris again. As you say, there are various people who can help Chris, and some probably will. But they will probably help him in a fairly arms-length way. Whatever sense of belonging, being wanted or needed, or having someone there for him all the time, he gets from Barb, he will probably never get again.


I agree completely. There is also a sense that bills are "fuck up once and your screwed". That's not really how it works, in most cases. Suppose he forgets his electricity bill one month, or doesn't have enough money left over to pay it. They are not going to shut his power off the next day. They will send him a reminder notice, maybe tack on a couple bucks of interest, and he will pay it as soon as the tugboat gets in.

Since he will always get his tugboat reliably, in order for Chris to get in real trouble, he will have to heep looking at the bills coming in and saying "nope, not paying that."

Didnt he once say that Barb leveled that threat at him once. I imagine if Chris does shack up with some brave soul that threatening to throw him out will make him comply with anything they want/need him to do. Within reason of course. I doubt they could make Chris get a job but they could make him vacuum the house once a week or something.

 

[timtommy]

Didnt he once say that Barb leveled that threat at him once. I imagine if Chris does shack up with some brave soul that threatening to throw him out will make him comply with anything they want/need him to do. Within reason of course. I doubt they could make Chris get a job but they could make him vacuum the house once a week or something.

I think she does do it at various points. As an outside observer, I have never seen it as credible. It does seem like Chris does see it as credible. I suppose that might take a little bit away from his sense of being "at home" living with his mother, but I don't get the impression is by much.

Could someone make Chris do chores? Sure. But it would be a pain in the ass. He would make excuses. He would delay. He would do an incredibly half-assed job. But I think that his general annoyingness/unpleasantness/immaturity is a much bigger impediment to him ever finding someone to live with than his laziness. Given that he brings in some money through the tugboat, if he were an all round fun guy to be around, there is definitely a chance someone would put up with his fairly meager financial and labor contributions to a household. But he's not fun to be around, so where is the incentive?

 

[feedtheoctopus]

there are various people who can help Chris, and some probably will. But they will probably help him in a fairly arms-length way.

The only people I can see "helping" Chris are Rocky and Cole. And even then, like you said, I doubt they'll be hanging out with him every day. Barb is legitimately the only reliable human contact that Chris has. I doubt the former two are going to put much effort into taking care of Chris, if any. Rocky's got her own life and Cole clearly doesn't want to get sucked into his brothers twisted internet nightmare.

Chris is going to end up alone. Maybe he'll develop the self control necessary to use his money effectively and pay his bills, but I doubt that. I'd give it like two months before the power goes out.

 

[Sarcastic Username]

I love the totally unexplained Miku picture in the top left

I sped-read the following 9 pages and didn't see this answered

That's his PSN avatar. This might be the end of double picture-in-picture Chris.

 

[Marvin]

Barb is legitimately the only reliable human contact that Chris has.

This is incorrect. The cwcki is not all knowing. It does not present an accurate picture of Chris' daily life.

Edit: To elaborate on this, we're not missing much that's exciting. But it's overconfidence to think Chris doesn't talk to people outside of 14BC. He might have various, regular haunts. The cwcki compensates for what we don't know by obsessing over the details we do know.

Maybe he'll develop the self control necessary to use his money effectively and pay his bills, but I doubt that.

He does this right now.

 

[feedtheoctopus]

This is incorrect. The cwcki is not all knowing. It does not present an accurate picture of Chris' daily life.

He does this right now.

True, it doesn't. But I don't see any indication of Chris having any sort of close social relationships, at least to the extent that somebody would be able to help him manage his personal life (which I think we can all agree he's rather incompetent at). Chris is more social nowadays than he used to be, far as anyone can tell, but the occasional conversation with somebody at Impulse isn't the same an actual social life. Which is what I mean by "reliable".

Then again there's this guy, so for all we know Chris does have a few friends that he somehow manages to avoid telling us all about.

As for his bills, his constant begging for money and ever expanding collection of plastic crap I think can attest to how responsible he is with his tugboat. Best case scenario is he ends up living hand to mouth in the most literal way possible.

 

[Marvin]

True, it doesn't. But I don't see any indication of Chris having any sort of close social relationships, at least to the extent that somebody would be able to help him manage his personal life (which I think we can all agree he's rather incompetent at)

Something people don't really realize, is that (prior to the current round of trolling, anyway), Chris doesn't naturally do things online on his own. Much of the internet activity that made Chris a big star, and drove the growth of the cwcki, was artificial in quite a few ways.

Chris is a big sack of... I don't know, fat or something, that just slides off of the internet if you aren't holding him online. (Well, that's a rough approximation. Whoever his manager is, they're doing a decent job of combating that mindset in him, but I think it's still generally a solid description of the situation.)

His daily life isn't really that shocking. But it's a mistake to think that we have even a decent understanding of his life, to the extent that we can reasonably make predictions about his social life (or lack thereof). Now, I don't know this because I'm brilliant and figured it out on my own. I know this because I know some of the details that we're missing out on.

If you don't believe me, consider Impulse. While yes, we did find out about it eventually, but do you remember it being a huge, dramatic event? Did Chris make some big announcement about how he has friends now, so DERE YOU TROLLS? No. I mean, yeah, Chris did fuck up and it got leaked.

But by and large, it was a pretty lowkey reveal, one that took a bit of time. And someone ultimately had to go to Impulse IRL to get info on it. That's what Chris' (perhaps rare, perhaps not) social interactions IRL are like. We don't even hear about them at all sometimes.

As for his bills, his constant begging for money and ever expanding collection of plastic crap I think can attest to how responsible he is with his tugboat.

Chris is lying (kinda) when he begs for money.

 

[Next]

I've never seen (or went through) any lethargy from HRT in tranny women. I'm genuinely curious where you heard/encountered this.

I'm mostly talking out my ass. I only have a few anecdotal cases where the hormones seemed to steal a person's thunder. Here's my evidence:

1. Chris Chan is a ghost of his former self - no more energetic spazzing, no more anger. It seems like his emotional spectrum is blunted and his brain is foggy (foggier than pre-tomboy Chris).
2. A concept artist I follow transitioned and now her work is a shade of what it used to be. It's just not as good. It's technically amazing, but it's lost the edge (its fire, its heart and soul). Other followers seem to agree with me.
3. A Megaman speed runner transitioned (can't remember name, probably has a thread here, had a meltdown) and she promptly lost all skill/interest in speed running, and got super angsty with her followers.
4. A blogger I follow described having his T lowered and E raised temporarily for a certain surgery, and it corroborates the above - lackluster energy, fogginess, feelings of peacefulness and complacency, reduced anger/pep/aggression.
5. Generally speaking, the forums for new trans girls on Reddit are low energy. Same with /lgbt/. It just seems like the process of adjusting to estrogen and reduced testosterone brings down energy.

Ok now for caveats: this does not apply to all MtFs, also peacefulness and reduced aggression are GOOD if you're suffering from g. dysphoria, and maybe I'm projecting all this shit, maybe the phenomenon is in my head, and certainly not all MtFs experience what I'm describing.

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[Sphere of Many Eyes]

Chris is a big sack of... I don't know, fat or something, that just slides off of the internet if you aren't holding him online. (Well, that's a rough approximation. Whoever his manager is, they're doing a decent job of combating that mindset in him, but I think it's still generally a solid description of the situation.)

This has rocked my feeble little world. I honestly never thought that this was a possibility.

 

[18plusful]

Directed by David Lynch

 

[feedtheoctopus]

This has rocked my feeble little world. I honestly never thought that this was a possibility.

Usually if Chris makes a video nowadays it's because somebody convinced him to do it. He's alluded to this fact in his recent releases also. Maybe back when we first discovered Chris he would do this kind of crap on his own, but he's more cautious than he used to be and he knows what the result of him putting himself out there is going to be. Now he needs a reason.

 

[Dain Bramage]

Didnt he once say that Barb leveled that threat at him once. I imagine if Chris does shack up with some brave soul that threatening to throw him out will make him comply with anything they want/need him to do. Within reason of course. I doubt they could make Chris get a job but they could make him vacuum the house once a week or something.

Ask Chris to vacuum the house? Are you some sort of nazi death camp kommandant? You Monster!!

He does this right now.

If he's buying a PS4 setup through high-interest places like Fingerhut, he's being anything but responsible with his finances.

 

[Robotic Richard Simmons]

If he's buying a PS4 setup through high-interest places like Fingerhut, he's being anything but responsible with his finances.

@Marvin never said Chris was financially responsible, he pointed out Chris is doing something that every human being is capable of doing. Paying a $30 water bill is NOT the same as responsibly saving money for retirement or opening an IRA.

 

[DragoonSierra]

I'm mostly talking out my ass. I only have a few anecdotal cases where the hormones seemed to steal a person's thunder. Here's my evidence:

1. Chris Chan is a ghost of his former self - no more energetic spazzing, no more anger. It seems like his emotional spectrum is blunted and his brain is foggy (foggier than pre-tomboy Chris).
2. A concept artist I follow transitioned and now her work is a shade of what it used to be. It's just not as good. It's technically amazing, but it's lost the edge (its fire, its heart and soul). Other followers seem to agree with me.
3. A Megaman speed runner transitioned (can't remember name, probably has a thread here, had a meltdown) and she promptly lost all skill/interest in speed running, and got super angsty with her followers.
4. A blogger I follow described having his T lowered and E raised temporarily for a certain surgery, and it corroborates the above - lackluster energy, fogginess, feelings of peacefulness and complacency, reduced anger/pep/aggression.
5. Generally speaking, the forums for new tranny girls on Reddit are low energy. Same with /lgbt/. It just seems like the process of adjusting to estrogen and reduced testosterone brings down energy.

Ok now for caveats: this does not apply to all MtFs, also peacefulness and reduced aggression are GOOD if you're suffering from g. dysphoria, and maybe I'm projecting all this shit, maybe the phenomenon is in my head, and certainly not all MtFs experience what I'm describing.

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Im interested in the megaman speed runner.

 

[Kosher Dill]

It seems like his emotional spectrum is blunted and his brain is foggy

That sounds familiar, almost as if there were some well-known condition that could have those effects.
:autism:

 

[A-tistic]

I managed to somewhat improve the audio quality in Adobe Audition.