Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[Beacon]

Although the accounts are locked down, I would imagine you have screenshots though, right? Allegations are better backed up with evidence. Obviously censor the street names thing, but it will be very interesting to see exactly what you're referring to, rather than anecdotes.

It's all gone... But... the other person did share screenshots in one of the earlier pages.

I did find this though...
[URL https://mobile.twitter.com/Cbcbieb/status/1469786189200826370

If you Google throwmeaway66 and throw7777away, yeah... She wasn't kidding about the tweets being deleted. There's only a few screwnshots available it seems.


*edit: Nevermind!

 

[Markass the Worst]

It's all gone... But... the other person did share screenshots in one of the earlier pages.

I did find this though...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cbcbieb/status/1469786189200826370

Well this is a very interesting and quite long slapfight you found. It looks like it involves an "Incel Wiki" twitter account, which I don't think is the Incel Wiki but seems to be a wiki against incels. They retweeted Dolphin Emu's quote tweet of Lucas Roberts talking about "muh Byuu/Near suicide". Kelli Wilson, CB, and that throwaway person are also involved along with a pro-SS account. Anyway here's the screenshots:

(suicide fuel link, archive)

Spoiler: images in tweet

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At this point CB has 10 replies with screenshots of the forum attempting to prove their point about minors:

Spoiler: screenshots

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[Beacon]

Well this is a very interesting and quite long slapfight you found. It looks like it involves an "Incel Wiki" twitter account, which I don't think is the Incel Wiki but seems to be a wiki against incels. They retweeted Dolphin Emu's quote tweet of Lucas Roberts talking about "muh Byuu/Near suicide". Kelli Wilson, CB, and that throwaway person are also involved along with a pro-SS account. Anyway here's the screenshots:
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Spoiler: images in tweet

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Interesting... NOW THAT'S AN ICEBERG...

Seems throwmeaway66 kinda slipped up about being trans...

Alright... Imma read all this... I'll say one thing: they are indeed seemingly strict about minors being on the forum. They will ban you if they find out... though... realistically, I'm not sure they hold much of a concern for that, so long as they're fine with said person. If they dislike you, they'll start thinking you're a child or something. But it's favoritism

 

[CB_]

That’s just a little piece. You’ll see afounder in there too. He thinks it’s a good idea allowing children on the forum. Only additional pressure forced him to eventually change his mind.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

It's all gone... But... the other person did share screenshots in one of the earlier pages.

I did find this though...
[URL https://mobile.twitter.com/Cbcbieb/status/1469786189200826370

If you Google throwmeaway66 and throw7777away, yeah... She wasn't kidding about the tweets being deleted. There's only a few screwnshots available it seems.


*edit: Nevermind!

He has a point though, two thirds of all suicides are via firearm, you'd think someone so concerned about suicide deaths would be in a crusade to ban guns to saver the children from the psychic suicide rays they emit, Still gay but at least more morally consistent

 

[afounder]

That’s just a little piece. You’ll see afounder in there too. He thinks it’s a good idea allowing children on the forum. Only additional pressure forced him to eventually change his mind.

Being dishonest yet again. In the end, we decided to ban all under 18-year-olds regardless, so your point is moot as the screenshots don't even prove your point.

 

[CB_]

Being dishonest yet again. In the end, we decided to ban all under 18-year-olds regardless, so your point is moot as the screenshots don't even prove your point.

After additional pressure. Don’t make up stories now. Still pointless as the site was wide open and no effort to stop it.

He has a point though, two thirds of all suicides are via firearm, you'd think someone so concerned about suicide deaths would be in a crusade to ban guns to saver the children from the psychic suicide rays they emit, Still gay but at least more morally consistent

I’m not sure where the gun comments came from. That’s not what the site pushes though so the argument does not hold water.

Being dishonest yet again. In the end, we decided to ban all under 18-year-olds regardless, so your point is moot as the screenshots don't even prove your point.

I don’t trust anything you say. You’ll throw your own brother under the bus. real stand up guy you are that once said he would fight till the end for your website.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I’m not sure where the gun comments came from. That’s not what the site pushes though so the argument does not hold water.

So you don't care about suicide as long its via gunshot or hanging (like 90% of suicides just on those two methods) , is just a personal vendetta against this one site and one obscure method. Got it.

 

[CB_]

So you don't care about suicide as long its via gunshot or hanging (like 90% of suicides just on those two methods) , is just a personal vendetta against this one site and one obscure method. Got it.

Sure buddy. Make up whatever you want.

 

[afounder]

After additional pressure. Don’t make up stories now. Still pointless as the site was wide open and no effort to stop it.

Pressure means absolutely nothing, as long as we did what was right at the time. It's a moot point and it's quite pathetic that you would use it, though.

I don’t trust anything you say. You’ll throw your own brother under the bus. real stand up guy you are that once said he would fight till the end for your website.

The site is still up, so that's all that matters. The rest of the verbal diarrhea, lies, and bullshit that you and the rest of your crew spew on a daily basis doesn't matter at all.

 

[CB_]

Pressure means absolutely nothing, as long as we did what was right at the time. It's a moot point and it's quite pathetic that you would use it, though.


The site is still up, so that's all that matters. The rest of the verbal diarrhea, lies, and bullshit that you and the rest of your crew spew on a daily basis doesn't matter at all.

For starters I don’t have a “crew”, im my own person. Not sure what you are speaking of that I used? Someone posted a screenshot and I gave it context. Own it buddy.. You haven’t done anything right since you started your websites. So proud you are of it you denied any connection to it quicker than flies on shit.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

We desperately need a "Retard" reaction/sticker.

 

[CB_]

Pressure means absolutely nothing, as long as we did what was right at the time. It's a moot point and it's quite pathetic that you would use it, though.


The site is still up, so that's all that matters. The rest of the verbal diarrhea, lies, and bullshit that you and the rest of your crew spew on a daily basis doesn't matter at all.

You are an adult and you talk to children online about suicide and provide instructions on how to do it “peacefully”. Think about that for a few minutes. Not to far off from a predator now are you? You should feel real proud.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

CB contributes to the suicide of children because they can't fucking stand his retarded arguments.

 

[afounder]

You are an adult and you talk to children online about suicide and provide instructions on how to do it “peacefully”. Think about that for a few minutes. Not to far off from a predator now are you? You should feel real proud.

It sounds like you should be talking to a therapist instead of blaming an obscure online forum for your child's death.

Your child was also an adult capable of making their own decisions, no one drove her to do what she did.

For starters I don’t have a “crew”, im my own person. Not sure what you are speaking of that I used? Someone posted a screenshot and I gave it context. Own it buddy.. You haven’t done anything right since you started your websites. So proud you are of it you denied any connection to it quicker than flies on shit.

Angry dad on the internet, lol.

 

[snootsnootsnoot]

You are an adult and you talk to children online about suicide and provide instructions on how to do it “peacefully”. Think about that for a few minutes. Not to far off from a predator now are you? You should feel real proud.

If you talk to someone about something serious (sex, suicide, medical treatments, etc) with no knowledge that they are a child, are you a predator for talking to them about it? If someone asks you about something serious, will you refuse to talk to them until they provide their government ID or credit card number to verify that they are in fact 18, or will you take them at their word assuming they are asking such a question in relatively good faith?

We're on the Internet. Without the introduction of a bunch of draconian RealID laws and whatnot, there will always be a way for someone with enough dedication to lie about who they are to the most stalwart website administrator. As far as I can tell, the average person looking for something like SS is not a child, and that children attempting to register to the site is a rarity, ones that get through even more so. What you do have is a swathe of autonomous adults seeking advice and a space to vent about their problems. There are no advertisements (outside of the NYT and Wikipedia, of course), no 'outreach' programs, or much of anything outside of word of mouth spreading the site. At that point, you can't really argue for this systemic, predatory issue where children are somehow being attracted to the website and groomed into committing suicide by Internet strangers, as the only real way they would come across this site is if they were interested in suicide in one way or another.

Why that would be is not the fault of the site as they had not yet interacted with it. If the site had not existed, the underlying issues that brought them to seek out such a place would not have been solved. These kinds of things generally don't just 'get better' on their own. They're likely to get worse with time unless some sort of treatment is established, which can be difficult for any number of reasons and is no guarantee. I understand there's really no overarching point in going back and forth with the aggrieved, as you have your own journey to acceptance you need to go on before such a thing is worthwhile, but these are still interesting conversations to have.

 

[White532]

She hated her amazon warehouse job. All you talk about is the forum. Focus on the real issues.

 

[afounder]

If you talk to someone about something serious (sex, suicide, medical treatments, etc) with no knowledge that they are a child, are you a predator for talking to them about it? If someone asks you about something serious, will you refuse to talk to them until they provide their government ID or credit card number to verify that they are in fact 18, or will you take them at their word assuming they are asking such a question in relatively good faith?

We're on the Internet. Without the introduction of a bunch of draconian RealID laws and whatnot, there will always be a way for someone with enough dedication to lie about who they are to the most stalwart website administrator. As far as I can tell, the average person looking for something like SS is not a child, and that children attempting to register to the site is a rarity, ones that get through even more so. What you do have is a swathe of autonomous adults seeking advice and a space to vent about their problems. There are no advertisements (outside of the NYT and Wikipedia, of course), no 'outreach' programs, or much of anything outside of word of mouth spreading the site. At that point, you can't really argue for this systemic, predatory issue where children are somehow being attracted to the website and groomed into committing suicide by Internet strangers, as the only real way they would come across this site is if they were interested in suicide in one way or another.

Why that would be is not the fault of the site as they had not yet interacted with it. If the site had not existed, the underlying issues that brought them to seek out such a place would not have been solved. These kinds of things generally don't just 'get better' on their own. They're likely to get worse with time unless some sort of treatment is established, which can be difficult for any number of reasons and is no guarantee. I understand there's really no overarching point in going back and forth with the aggrieved, as you have your own journey to acceptance you need to go on before such a thing is worthwhile, but these are still interesting conversations to have.

Problem is, Chip isn't interested in these conversations, and I don't have serious conversations with those that deliberately take me out of context or blame me for things I have never done. I'm the big bad to them so everything I say is bad, so I don't waste my breath with those that thinks everything that comes out of my mouth is a lie, nor would it be helpful for me to talk to a parent that should be grieving, and not looking at places such as a suicide forum or anything around the subject.

I am more than willing to have an honest conversation with anyone, but attacking people and deliberately lying about them is a non-starter for me.

 

[dick brain]

Get a room.

 

[VasonJoorhees]

Spoken like a true individual that is likely not a parent. There is a common theme as well that it’s always the parents fault.

It is not your fault your child commit suicide, not at all, but it is the parents fault for not monitoring their child's browsing habits on the Internet lol. Websites and games (unless their target audience is children) are not babysitters and are under no moral obligation to monitor children using their platform.

Do you think it’s a good idea having a website who’s goal is to discuss suicide and it’s methods in high detail for the sole purpose of exiting this world?

So a termite drops out of the wall and you think the problem is that one termite? Instead of questioning why this website exists, maybe you should question why your teen wants to browse this website in the first place. Maybe you should check in on your child's mental health? Your virtue is severely misplaced.

I find it disturbing that you imply you're a parent, because you don't seem to know the first thing about paying attention to your kids.

Without zero regard to the age or vulnerability of the individuals consuming it?

There is no real way to monitor and control the age of your user traffic, it just isn't technologically feasible. The most a website can do to confirm someone's age is require photo ID, but this is not foolproof.

1. Anyone can just snag their parents ID. A good example of this is ROBLOX's voice chat feature. In order to use VOIP on ROBLOX users are required to provide photo ID, as it's intended for adults. Yet when you go on games with VOIP enabled, a lot of people talking are minors.

2. Most people aren't going to trust uploading their photo ID online unless it's to a clearly reputable and popular platform.

You are an adult and you talk to children online about suicide and provide instructions on how to do it “peacefully”. Think about that for a few minutes. Not to far off from a predator now are you? You should feel real proud.

It seems you wish the website didn't exist, so you're advocating for censorship - which is oppression. Bold move.

In order for that to work there would have to be some sort of system in place. So, how would this censorship system run exactly? Would you have an ideological purity test before people say things? Who are you going to pick to decide what things you can and cannot say? Pick someone to have complete dominion over your speech. Do it.

And before you say "I don't have to pick anyone or create the system" yes, you do. If this is how you want society to run, you have to have a system to run it. You can't just say "this is not okay to say" by fiat and just assume that everyone will agree with you for all time. There are other people in the world besides you. You have to pick principles that can be applied to everyone.

The funny thing is people who advocate for shit like this are perfectly happy with censorship/oppression as long as it's being applied to things they disagree with, but you know the instant it comes back around to bite them they would cry about it. Which, if you weren't getting my point, is exactly why a system of this nature does not exist and why censorship is bullshit. Don't advocate for censorship, advocate for staying in tune to your child's mental and physical health instead.