Disaster AP: EPA chief at train derailment site: 'trust the government' - “I’m asking they trust the government. I know that’s hard. We know there’s a lack of trust,” Regan said. “We’re testing for everything that was on that train.”

EPA chief at train derailment site: 'trust the government'
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Patrick Orsagos
2023-02-17 00:13:51GMT

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Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Regan left, walks with his staff through East Palestine, Ohio on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2023. (Lucy Schaly/Pittsburgh Post-Gazette via AP)

EAST PALESTINE, Ohio (AP) — The head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency got a first-hand look Thursday at the toll left by a freight train derailment in Ohio, where toxic chemicals spilled or were burned off, leaving the stench of fresh paint nearly two weeks later.

EPA Administrator Michael Regan, who walked along a creek that still reeks of chemicals, sought to reassure skeptical residents that say the water is fit for drinking and the air safe to breathe around East Palestine, where just under 5,000 people live near the Pennsylvania state line.

“I’m asking they trust the government. I know that’s hard. We know there’s a lack of trust,” Regan said. “We’re testing for everything that was on that train.”

“I have three grandbabies,” said Kathy Dyke, who came with hundreds of her neighbors to a public meeting Wednesday where representatives of railroad operator Norfolk Southern were conspicuously absent. “Are they going to grow up here in five years and have cancer?”

Since the derailment, residents have complained about headaches and irritated eyes and finding their cars and lawns covered in soot. The hazardous chemicals that spilled from the train killed thousands of fish, and residents have talked about finding dying or sick pets and wildlife.

Residents are frustrated by what they say is incomplete and vague information about the lasting effects from the disaster, which prompted evacuations.

“I have three grandbabies,” said Kathy Dyke, who came with hundreds of her neighbors to a public meeting Wednesday where representatives of railroad operator Norfolk Southern were conspicuously absent. “Are they going to grow up here in five years and have cancer?”

Regan said Thursday that anyone who is fearful of being in their home should seek testing from the government.

“People have been unnerved. They’ve been asked to leave their homes,” he said, adding that if he lived there, he would be willing to move his family back into the area as long as the testing shows it’s safe.

Those attending the previous night’s informational session had questions over health hazards and demanded more transparency from Norfolk Southern, which did not attend, citing concerns about its staff safety. Many who had waited in a long line snaking outside the high school gymnasium came away upset that they didn’t hear anything new. Some booed or laughed each time they heard the village mayor or state health director assure them that lingering odors aren’t dangerous.

“They just danced around the questions a lot,” said Danielle Deal, who lives a few miles from the derailment site. “Norfolk needed to be here.”

At least five lawsuits have been filed against the railroad, which announced this week that it is creating a $1 million fund to help the community while continuing to remove spilled contaminants from the ground and streams and monitoring air quality.

“We are here and will stay here for as long as it takes to ensure your safety and to help East Palestine recover and thrive,” Norfolk Southern President and CEO Alan Shaw said in a letter to the community.

Families who evacuated said they want assistance figuring out how to get the promised financial help. Beyond that, they want to know whether the railroad will be held responsible.

State and federal officials have promised to make sure Norfolk Southern not only pays for the cleanup but also reimburses residents.

The White House said teams from the federal health and emergency response and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will go to East Palestine.

“We understand the residents are concerned — as they should be —- and they have questions. That’s all understandable,” said White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “And we’re going to get to the bottom of this.”

No one was injured when about 50 cars derailed in a fiery, mangled mess on the outskirts of East Palestine on Feb. 3. Officials seeking to avoid an uncontrolled blast evacuated the area and opted to release and burn toxic vinyl chloride from five rail cars, sending flames and black smoke billowing into the sky again.

The Ohio EPA said the latest tests show five wells supplying the village’s drinking water are free from contaminants.

At least, 3,500 fish, mostly small ones such as minnows and darters, have been found dead along more than 7 miles (11.2 kilometers) of streams, according to the estimates from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

Precautions are being taken to ensure contaminants that reached the Ohio River don’t make it into drinking water, officials said.

There have been anecdotal reports that pets or livestock have been sickened. No related animal deaths have been confirmed and the risk to livestock is low, Ohio officials said, but the state Agriculture Department is testing samples from a beef calf that died a week after the derailment.

The suspected cause of the derailment is a mechanical issue with a rail car axle. The National Transportation Safety Board said it has video appearing to show a wheel bearing overheating just beforehand. The NTSB expects to issue its preliminary report in about two weeks.
 
Thats a pretty conspiritorial line of thinking. I mean poison a town? That's in a more rural area? That voted 70% Trump? Then refuse aid? They wouldn't do that........
Its entirely possible that it was simply a fuck-up and they're going to be coming up with a gameplan to take advantage of it like what happened in the Wu-Flu.

On a slightly unrelated note, Metal Gear Solid 2 does an incredible job of showcasing glowniggery. And that game showcases how an ecological disaster (Co-opted or caused) can be co-opted for selfish reasons.
 
Who/where was that local government official who was so determined to convince the public that their water was safe that he drank some during a speech against all advice and got really sick?
I feel like I've read a few stories like that, the most recent one I can think of is the Indian politician last year who drank a glass of river water and ended up hospitalized with an infection
 
Its entirely possible that it was simply a fuck-up and they're going to be coming up with a gameplan to take advantage of it like what happened in the Wu-Flu.

On a slightly unrelated note, Metal Gear Solid 2 does an incredible job of showcasing glowniggery. And that game showcases how an ecological disaster (Co-opted or caused) can be co-opted for selfish reasons.

Yeah occams razor. The rail company were cheap asses and were using like 200 year old railcars to save money and it cost everyone else. I'm not completely ruling out sabotage though.
 
One thing that I am certain of is that Buttigieg will never hold elected office again.

I know he took control of the DOT at not the greatest time, but since he got in there, it's been one damn high-profile transportation-related disaster after another.

Boats, trains, planes... I don't recall a large bridge collapse in the past couple years, but it's coming.

And they're trying to be like "Ooooh shit was deregulated under Orange Man!" but they've had two years to caulk that shit and it's still leaking.
 
Why the should I trust any governwment official in this case, especially anything federal since the federal government has done nothing but fuck up at all levels for the past 3 years. Bootyjudge should have done his damn job and prevented this shit from even occuring. Wouldn't this shit fall into his purview? But no, he's going to go on another vacation to do only God knows what. Yeah fuck off mate.



You are the most retarded bitch broken poster on this site. No wonder your dad didn't love you enough to stay and make you a functioning member of society instead of a stupid cumdumpster whore of a daughter.s
Peterpal simply doesn't give a fuck about anything that takes actual effort. Riding a bike to work? Cool! Straightening out the big fucking mess at the West Coast ports? I'll call when I get back from my eons-long "paternity leave". Major railroad chemical incident in Ohio? "Fuck 'em, they voted for Trump anyway. Need to suck my husband off now."

Peterpal is one of the most incompetent members of the most incompetent American regime ever. Simply an utter disgrace.
 
Its entirely possible that it was simply a fuck-up and they're going to be coming up with a gameplan to take advantage of it like what happened in the Wu-Flu.

On a slightly unrelated note, Metal Gear Solid 2 does an incredible job of showcasing glowniggery. And that game showcases how an ecological disaster (Co-opted or caused) can be co-opted for selfish reasons.
Here's my thoughts: if it WERE an accident, they'd be actually retarded to let this opportunity for free good publicity go by instead of shitting their pants and doing nothing. All it does is antagonize Ohio and any sympathetic to the state (a line I'm pissed I have to write with full sincerity) and give them ammunition to use to get normies against them. If it were on purpose, similar to a controlled burn, then helping simply makes it an inside job people whisper about how Biden poisoned people just to help them from his own problem he caused. Not helping lets the punishment known as cancer set in and sends a message: Fall in line. Put this with the murmurs of a potential rail strike before this happened and I don't think Biden's handlers or cabanet would be too keen on the rail industry.

Or they saw that 'it's all Ohio' meme and had PTSD flashbacks to the meme magic of 2016 and they're genuinely afraid of Ohio supremacy, I don't know everything. Either way I expect any assistance they give to backfire and frankly poisoning Ohio to fuck with them sounds part and parcel for this administration and the US government in general.
 
Wait until you learn that gas doesn't sit under the ground in nice pressurized containers. Do you think natural gas is heavier than water, or lighter? Lol how do you think we learned about oil and natural gas to begin with? Were the Greeks drilling for oil back when they were using it in naval warfare?

The shit comes out of the ground you fucking imbecile. I'm being explicit because I think you really are this thick.
just as i thought. you only care about poisoned water supplies if it's beneficial to the republicans. cuck.
 
I thought pollution wasn't real and was just a communist conspiracy. Why are all the righttards suddenly caring about this? I don't get the angle honestly. Is it just because it's supposed to make joe biden look bad?
Stop being disingenuous you fuck. This is an environmental spill/catastrophe. You can't be this stupid unless you voted for Biden.
 
no i think its a good question to ask why conservatives are suddenly concerned with water pollution. of course i already know its because of the talking heads on twitter.
You can't be this ignorant? I hope you drink and bathe in this water for a year. Go say this shit to the people living there. I dare you! You won't because you are a coward behind a keyboard. Eat shit and I hope a house falls on you.
 
Why do people on here downplay the environmental disasters that make Republicans look bad?
Why are you being so ignorant? Did your mother do drugs while pregnant? Do you know who your father is? How many times were you dropped on your head?

I could give a flying fuck if it is a Democrat or Republican. It needs to be fixed and fixed now.
 
Why do people on here downplay the environmental disasters that make Republicans look bad?
God you're really on some mad ass streak aren't you? Get high or something and calm down. Pollution > climate change in the range of world damaging issues. Pollution has an immediate, long lasting, obvious effect on what it touches. It's true when plastic is choking turtles out and filling our veins. It's true when overuse of factory chemicals in farming leads to hormonal issues in life caught in the watershed. And it's true when a train full of material that essentially becomes a gas bomb when on fire gets fucking incinerated. Conservatives didn't believe climate change because the left made another issue their hot button topic after railing on the problems that various pollutions cause for the longest time. Magically it's not the worst thing in the world when the powers that be decided so. Doesn't help when, like with the loudest arguments in the pollution fearmongering circle, somehow the giant corporations causing the most damage magically are not at fault, rather it is the average pleb that has to lose even more rights to save the planet (tm).
 
I thought pollution wasn't real and was just a communist conspiracy. Why are all the righttards suddenly caring about this? I don't get the angle honestly. Is it just because it's supposed to make joe biden look bad?
Are you going to cry to Null again when you get too many of the wrong stickers?
 
Hey everyone, this is important and all, but I think that this is distracting from the really important issues that our country faces today.

Namely, helping to secure the sovereignty of Ukraine, our staunchest ally. Yes, I understand, there might be some chemicals in the water. But that will solve itself. I don’t blame the government for not wanting to send any aid to the affected communities. Did you all know? The Ukrainians are running out of ammunition AS WE SPEAK.

Seriously, you’re all being very selfish. So there’s a few dead fish and a couple of dead pets. Uuh, hello? You can buy new pets. And those fish will be back next year. You know what might not be around next year without our help? Ukraine. I think you should all consider checking your privilege. This thread has been hard to get through. Sort out your priorities, folks.
 
Are you going to cry to Null again when you get too many of the wrong stickers?
This actually happened? I can see it.
Why did you guys take obvious bait? Even the fish in East Palestine know better.
Freya's been getting more and more spergy as time goes. It's happening with a lot of the frequent politics posters as things continue to become more insane and they can't cope. It could be partially bait but I think we are genuinely seeing people's beliefs shatter in real time.
 
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