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You can't fool everyone forever. Something inconspicuous will break the Camel's back. Diminishing Returns and Chaos Theory are still a real thing. No matter how much the dems and their cohorts think they can control reality and nature. Life finds a way.
Or, as Bleeding Kansas showed, Death finds a way.
 
You can't fool everyone forever. Something inconspicuous will break the Camel's back. Diminishing Returns and Chaos Theory are still a real thing. No matter how much the dems and their cohorts think they can control reality and nature. Life finds a way.
Columbiana County, Ohio, where East Palestine is located, voted for Trump with over 71% of the vote in 2020. They could vote harder but the county and most of the state is solidly Republican.
 
Arizona Appeals Court affirmed lower court ruling in Kari Lake's election case, even though the lower court misinterpreted Arizona standing for election standings and try to say she should have filed before the election was over about signature verification, but you can't see the signatures beforehand. Lake is appealing to the State Supreme Court, I can't wait to see how they say "yeah the rules weren't applied correctly but oh well."

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You can't fool everyone forever. Something inconspicuous will break the Camel's back. Diminishing Returns and Chaos Theory are still a real thing. No matter how much the dems and their cohorts think they can control reality and nature. Life finds a way.
Problem is, sometimes life comes riding in across the steppe with a bloodthirsty army.

Arizona Appeals Court affirmed lower court ruling in Kari Lake's election case, even though the lower court misinterpreted Arizona standing for election standings and try to say she should have filed before the election was over about signature verification, but you can't see the signatures beforehand. Lake is appealing to the State Supreme Court, I can't wait to see how they say "yeah the rules weren't applied correctly but oh well."

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I am just gonna do a little copy pasting on my comment on the issue of the american elections on another thread here.

Both the 2020 and the 2022 midterm elections are completly inundated with acusations of fraud and conspiracies. There is just too much shady shit going on. But we have no actual solid proof. And that is even worse than a proven fraud.

Elections are built entirely on legitimacy. It is not a matter of if you like the results, it is a matter of if the results are believable and if they are trustworthy. Without trust a society cannot function and you have anarchy.

Loads of people do not believe that 2020 and 2022 were fraudulent, and just as many people believe they were. But neither side can prove it because the entire system is so fucking broken. Both sides will argue for hours and end up coming to the argument "my source said" and when you look said source just says "trust me bro".

Democrats and RINO fags refuse to talk about making elections more secure because (at least this is the claim they tout in public) "there is nothing wrong with it" which is absurdly false. They use the circular logic that:

>There is no proof of election fraud
>That proof is circumstantial, you need hard proof
>No you cannot get a warranty to look for proof of election fraud
>You need a probable cause for a warranty
>Circumstantial proof is not enough
>If you do not have hard proof then it is all a conspiracy theory
>Return to first line

It doesn't matter how obviously broken it is, how much suspicious shit there is, the absurdly convenient delays and mistakes and errors and connections... They do not care about any of it. To admit a issue might exist is as bad as personally declaring yourself a enemy.

They believe that if they even entertain the idea that the elections in the United States could POSSIBLY have fraudulent results it would be the same as agreeing with the idea the election was stolen, so they refuse to do anything about it. This means that the number of people who feel the election is sus only grows. There is not a single person in D.C. who is offering a actual, REAL compromise on the issue that WOULD help calm things down, which might go something like this:

"Look, I do not believe the elections were stolen. [Insert some BS about safe and secure] However I can understand why people would be confused over the results due to how obtuse and obscure the process has been in some counties like the issues in Arizona or the controversies in Georgia and Pennsylvania. I believe that we could make for a better, more transparent and trustworthy electoral system by trying to work out a set of rules to be followed by all states to stop any issues in the future and not allow this shadow of doubt on our nation."

At which point the proposal is made to introduce stuff like better voter I.D. laws, a unified chain of custody, stop the frankly absurd practice of private voting machines that no one is allowed to test for security issues, a legal way of how to challenge a result if you feel it is invalid, and other stuff that would stop shit like we saw in the last 2 elections.

But it won't happen, because this would require that they be willing to admit the people worried about election fraud have a point. And thus we find ourselves locked in a downward spiral where trust in the entire system is being eroded at a speed not seen since late 1980's Warsaw Pact.

And of course that is assuming they are not just gleefully rigging elections already, which is likely the case, but again this is just a best case scenario so they get the benefit of the doubt.
 
I am just gonna do a little copy pasting on my comment on the issue of the american elections on another thread here.

Both the 2020 and the 2022 midterm elections are completly inundated with acusations of fraud and conspiracies. There is just too much shady shit going on. But we have no actual solid proof. And that is even worse than a proven fraud.

Elections are built entirely on legitimacy. It is not a matter of if you like the results, it is a matter of if the results are believable and if they are trustworthy. Without trust a society cannot function and you have anarchy.

Loads of people do not believe that 2020 and 2022 were fraudulent, and just as many people believe they were. But neither side can prove it because the entire system is so fucking broken. Both sides will argue for hours and end up coming to the argument "my source said" and when you look said source just says "trust me bro".

Democrats and RINO fags refuse to talk about making elections more secure because (at least this is the claim they tout in public) "there is nothing wrong with it" which is absurdly false. They use the circular logic that:

>There is no proof of election fraud
>That proof is circumstantial, you need hard proof
>No you cannot get a warranty to look for proof of election fraud
>You need a probable cause for a warranty
>Circumstantial proof is not enough
>If you do not have hard proof then it is all a conspiracy theory
>Return to first line

It doesn't matter how obviously broken it is, how much suspicious shit there is, the absurdly convenient delays and mistakes and errors and connections... They do not care about any of it. To admit a issue might exist is as bad as personally declaring yourself a enemy.

They believe that if they even entertain the idea that the elections in the United States could POSSIBLY have fraudulent results it would be the same as agreeing with the idea the election was stolen, so they refuse to do anything about it. This means that the number of people who feel the election is sus only grows. There is not a single person in D.C. who is offering a actual, REAL compromise on the issue that WOULD help calm things down, which might go something like this:



At which point the proposal is made to introduce stuff like better voter I.D. laws, a unified chain of custody, stop the frankly absurd practice of private voting machines that no one is allowed to test for security issues, a legal way of how to challenge a result if you feel it is invalid, and other stuff that would stop shit like we saw in the last 2 elections.

But it won't happen, because this would require that they be willing to admit the people worried about election fraud have a point. And thus we find ourselves locked in a downward spiral where trust in the entire system is being eroded at a speed not seen since late 1980's Warsaw Pact.

And of course that is assuming they are not just gleefully rigging elections already, which is likely the case, but again this is just a best case scenario so they get the benefit of the doubt.
The truth nobody wants to admit is that for supposedly the freest country in the world, the United States has always struggled with election legitimacy. For most cities, they are operated entirely by political machines. 150 years ago a political boss would pay some Irish immigrants to rustle up enough votes to elect or re-elect a candidate. The small towns came down to sweet talking the right preacher, especially small black towns. In fact, that’s how black votes are obtained these days and how Biden pulled through with primary victories in 2020.

2018-2022 is the advent of these districts with over 90% to over 100% reporting. Ballot stuffing has always been around but the twist is that Democrats and the media feel confident in being transparent with fraud. It’s meant to humiliate Republicans. The GOP does the equivalent of strongly worded letters and hopes to move on.
 
Arizona Appeals Court affirmed lower court ruling in Kari Lake's election case, even though the lower court misinterpreted Arizona standing for election standings and try to say she should have filed before the election was over about signature verification, but you can't see the signatures beforehand. Lake is appealing to the State Supreme Court, I can't wait to see how they say "yeah the rules weren't applied correctly but oh well."

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Until Donald does his latest meme on vote harvesting.

Infinite feedback loop any election issue is "latches" except actual fedpost & Fedops is fair.

in the UK it's just voting until the correct answer or ignore the vote.
Have catalog & restrictive voting roles.
 
I’m just shocked that he did not send that $400k missile to Ukraine. But spending money on that to deflate a $12 ballon is something you would see from an F-Troop storyline.
Canada shot down a spy balloon in the late 90s and they had to pump over a thousand rounds of 20mm into it. I think it still took days to come down. For good or bad, the best way to get these down is something with an explosive force and shrapnel that will do more than punch small holes in the thing. Did it have to cost half a million? Probably not, but it's not exactly cheap to scramble two next generation fighter jets either. A Major involved with the Canada incident had some insight at the time that still applies today.
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Canada shot down a spy balloon in the late 90s and they had to pump over a thousand rounds of 20mm into it. I think it still took days to come down. For good or bad, the best way to get these down is something with an explosive force and shrapnel that will do more than punch small holes in the thing. Did it have to cost half a million? Probably not, but it's not exactly cheap to scramble two next generation fighter jets either. A Major involved with the Canada incident had some insight at the time that still applies today.
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Its not like feeding a 20mm is cheap either, you're looking at $30-$100/round depending on what you load up. At 6,000 rounds a minute, that's gonna add up fast.

Regardless, military ordinance isn't an investment, its an expense. You don't buy missiles to preen about how much money your stockpile is worth, you buy missiles to blow shit up, and missiles have a best before date. Might as well use them.
 
Some news from Yahoo about Tucker.

Tucker Carlson told his producer Trump is 'the undisputed world champion' of destroying things and could ruin Fox News if it didn't back his election lies (Archive)

  • Tucker Carlson called Trump the "undisputed world champion" of destroying things, per a new court filing.
  • He texted a producer after the election that Trump could "easily destroy" Fox News if "we play it wrong."
  • Carlson's text came after Fox News ignited Trump's fury by being the first to call Arizona for Biden.

Two days after Election Day 2020, the Fox News host Tucker Carlson texted his producer warning that Fox News' decision to call the state of Arizona for Joe Biden on election night could spell doom for the network.

That's according to a new court filing released on Thursday. The document, a 200-page motion for summary judgment in Dominion Voting Systems' defamation lawsuit against Fox News, featured multiple deposition excerpts and texts from top Fox News figures, including Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, and others.

Fox was the first cable news network to project Biden's victory in Arizona, prompting a slew of angry phone calls and texts from people in Trump's camp.

"We worked really hard to build what we have," Carlson texted his producer, Alex Pfeiffer, on November 5, 2020, according to the filing. Referring to colleagues who projected the results, Carlson texted: "Those fuckers are destroying our credibility. It enrages me."

Carlson added that he had spoken with fellow prime-time commentators Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity minutes earlier and that they were "highly upset."

"At this point we're getting hurt no matter what," he wrote, according to the filing.

Pfeiffer replied that "many on 'our side' are being reckless demagogues right now."

"Of course they are," Carlson wrote. "We're not going to follow them."

Carlson went on to say that Trump was good at "destroying things. He's the undisputed world champion of that. He could easily destroy us if we play it wrong."

At another point the same day, Carlson texted that "we've got to be incredibly careful right now. We could get hurt." It's unclear who the recipient of the message was.

Dominion became a focal point for Trumpworld's election-related conspiracy theories shortly after Election Day 2020. "By November 11, Sean Hannity recognized the critical role the Dominion fraud narrative would play in winning back viewers," Thursday's filing said.

"In one week and one debate they destroyed a brand that took 25 years to build and the damage is incalculable," Hannity told Carlson and Ingraham on November 12, a week after the Arizona call.

"It's vandalism," Carlson replied, according to the filing.

The host also grew angry when a Fox News reporter fact-checked a Trump tweet accusing Dominion of election fraud.

The reporter, Jacqui Heinrich, wrote in response to Trump's tweet that top election officials had determined "there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

Carlson dropped Heinrich's tweet into a group chat with Ingraham and Hannity, per the filing, and told Hannity: "Please get her fired. Seriously....What the fuck?...It needs to stop immediately, like tonight. It's measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke."

One of Ingraham's producers, Tommy Firth, struck a more blunt tone.

"This dominion shit is going to give me a fucking aneurysm — as many times as I've told Laura it's bs, she sees shit posters and trump tweeting about it," Firth wrote to Ron Mitchell, a Fox executive overseeing Ingraham's show, according to a partially redacted text featured in the filing.

Dominion sued Fox News for defamation in March 2021, alleging that the network pushed conspiracy theories about the company in an effort to win back dissatisfied viewers following Trump's loss in the election.

"As a result of the false accusations broadcast by Fox into millions of American homes, Dominion has suffered unprecedented harm and its employees' lives have been put in danger," Dominion's attorneys wrote in the lawsuit.

"Fox took a small flame and turned it into a forest fire," Dominion's lawsuit said.

In a statement, a Fox News spokesperson said Dominion's case is a threat to free speech and that the company misrepresented the evidence it collected.

"Dominion has mischaracterized the record, cherry-picked quotes stripped of key context, and spilled considerable ink on facts that are irrelevant under black-letter principles of defamation law," the spokesperson said.

I’m just shocked that he did not send that $400k missile to Ukraine. But spending money on that to deflate a $12 ballon is something you would see from an F-Troop storyline.

Well I mean they could research more efficient means to take out a balloon.

However spending all that money on a decades old missile, whose value might have depreciated hard by the time it was fired.

Just to destroy an American made balloon because Biden wants to prove he can still wave his dick around at his masters in Beijing.

Is the state of what American cuckservatives allowed to happen in the name of decorum.
 
What's biden's chance of getting re-elected?
How "fortified" are the 5 key states when 2024 hits?
Propaganda is powerful tool as it has always been. The big thing is getting people to believe in the source of it. If you want an optimistic view on the average joe supporting what is said by the media, trust in the news is generally overall down currently.
It's down, but it doesn't mean they see the bullshit. Or did you forget to a ton of the lefty retards the Washington Post is thansphobic and CNN are republican stooges? I'm sure a good number of people expect to be lied MORE, not less.
Its why the fact that his daughter and Kushner not being part of his campaign is so damn important. Trump is first and foremost a businessman, and businessmen rely heavily on experts and advisors to help them understand the minutia of the business below them. Their job is to take that advice and sell it to other people and turn it into a unified vision.

Those two people more than anyone else are why Trump was hobbled. He could have handled the internal sabotage, he could have worked around the obfuscation. What he could not work around was being sold a constant line of bullshit from his innermost circle who ensured he never looked too closely or got rid of the other trators.

And the latter is what those two's entire job was. To ensure that Trump didn't pull an "Apprentice" on the many people sabotaging him. They are why he Kept Fauci. they are why Milly never got the boot, they are why ever single traitor remained. Trump trusted them, he should not have, and now he does not.
I always repeat this, but Trump's biggest failing was being a human that could trust instead of a fucking (((lizardperson)))
The problem is fraud and propaganda doesn’t HAVE to go very far, like in 2020 it just needs to happen in a few key areas and that’s all it takes to tip the scales.

That being said, I’m still not convinced he’ll make it to 2024, so talking about whether or not he’ll win re-election is kind of moot at this point in time.
Biden is a fucking irrelevant cog, the question is if the uniparty wins. Whatever the democrats push forward or Desantis (nicely comfirmed by Soros) translates to the same ending. If the election is Newson vs Desantis, you already lost and are fucked.
"Listen here jack, you little jigaboo, you think you can beat me in a push up contest?"
So anxiety is the new way to say "his brain is litetally melting", good to know. Also, assuming anxiety and depression was the actual cause,of course another parade pf stunning and brave... I need a fucking leader to lead, not to be fucking stunning and brave while crying! FUCK, weakness becoming a virtue has fucking ruined society to insane levels.
What's Ohio gonna do? Vote Republican even harder than they did in 2020? In 2024, the press will have women whipped into absolute hysterics over some dumb bullshit again, because if there's one thing women love, it's getting heart-reacts on Facebooks on posts about how hysterical some dumb bullshit has gotten them.

Plus, there are no legal consequences for Democrats when they cheat at elections. They can literally shut the voting machines down and turn Republicans away. No consequences.

They'll do what they have to.
Oiho is 100% irrelevant to the election, no need to fortify no need to give a fuck.
Arizona Appeals Court affirmed lower court ruling in Kari Lake's election case, even though the lower court misinterpreted Arizona standing for election standings and try to say she should have filed before the election was over about signature verification, but you can't see the signatures beforehand. Lake is appealing to the State Supreme Court, I can't wait to see how they say "yeah the rules weren't applied correctly but oh well."

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