Celebrity Madonna - elderly woman mired in existential crisis.

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Nah, Lana's dad is a millionaire and paid her way in. No need for any cock servicing. Same with Sam Smith, and Lady Gaga: they had rich parents who helped them get their feet in the door.

Yeah it's funny when you go research some singers. Grimes for example, looking through her old photos, she liked to live in lofts and rundown places with her friends and wore alternative grungy clothing. But her father was an investment banker.

Ariana Grande was a bit more modest however. Her father pushed her everywhere as a child, built a recording studio for her in the house, she was doing openings to several sports events at that age. But when she got into Nickelodeon with Dan Schneider, that was her shot. And she took it.
 
I think being toxic as an individual really effects how one ages...
like Jamie Lee Curtis and Sigourney Weaver or Michelle Yeoh are old but they never act toxic and look how well they aged.

then you have Madonna who just being toxic as fuck
and not to mention claiming everyone who criticized how she looks recently are mysoginistic toxic male masculinity whatnot
 
Nah, Lana's dad is a millionaire and paid her way in. No need for any cock servicing. Same with Sam Smith, and Lady Gaga: they had rich parents who helped them get their feet in the door.

Lana was sleeping with Harvey Weinstein around the time her career took off. She sang about it in the song Cola and he got her to do the soundtrack for Big Eyes. She stopped singing Cola after he was busted and I see on google they have changed the lyrics from "Harvey's" to "Ah, he's" lol

Both can be true at the same time.

Harvey’s in the sky with diamonds
And he's making me crazy (I come alive, alive)
All he wants to do is party with his pretty baby
Come on, baby, let's ride
We can escape to the great sunshine
I know your wife and she wouldn't mind


&

I fall asleep in an American flag
I wear my diamonds on Skid Row
I pledge allegiance to my dad
For teaching me everything he knows
 
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She is so completely average looking here. It’s not one of those strikingly ugly models or anything, she just looks like some 20 whatever who has had some fillers and poured herself into a too small Halloween costume. I am underwhelmed.

Also, I know nothing about fashion shows, but is it a good thing if the front row is nearly empty and the people in the back rows seem to be looking behind them and not at the runway? These pics look like someone just let Lourdes walk so her and/or mom would stfu.
 
I think being toxic as an individual really effects how one ages...
like Jamie Lee Curtis and Sigourney Weaver or Michelle Yeoh are old but they never act toxic and look how well they aged.

then you have Madonna who just being toxic as fuck
and not to mention claiming everyone who criticized how she looks recently are mysoginistic toxic male masculinity whatnot
Jaime lee looks terrible for her age and madonna is mostly right about her detractors
 
Yep, Born This Way is a rip off of the melody of Express Yourself. Madonna said Lady Gaga was "reductive", when asked about her. Lady Gaga also tried to go the shock-the-Catholic-church route that Madonna did.

Lady Gaga had an associate in her late teens early twenties, Lina Morgana, who was on the same record label as her. She sadly died after falling or jumping off a roof. Lina's mother says that Lady Gaga copied her whole act, and appropriated the "darkness" of Lina's genuine mental health problems. While this is subjective, what is certain is that Gaga started out wearing very ordinary clothes and singing slow songs at a piano, and only started her Lady Gaga persona and the associated traits (outrageousness, the costumes, the pretending to be weird) very shortly before she became famous.

Another one who was not happy with her is David Bowie's son, who made cryptic remarks on twitter about Gaga's "tribute" after his death which was basically just a rip off of his Ziggy Stardust persona.

I used to be a Gaga hater back in the day, because basically she's a massive phoney who has no personality whatsoever, and her whole act is a mish-mash of things other artists have done. The above examples are ones I remember, but I recall a common theme is that she is frequently accused of copying people and of being soulless.
 
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Yep, Born This Way is a rip off of the melody of Express Yourself. Madonna said Lady Gaga was "reductive", when asked about her. Lady Gaga also tried to go the shock-the-Catholic-church route that Madonna did.

Lady Gaga had an associate in her late teens early twenties, Lina Morgana, who was on the same record label as her. She sadly died after falling or jumping off a roof. Lina's mother says that Lady Gaga copied her whole act, and appropriated the "darkness" of Lina's genuine mental health problems. While this is subjective, what is certain is that Gaga started out wearing very ordinary clothes and singing slow songs at a piano, and only started her Lady Gaga persona and the associated traits (outrageousness, the costumes, the pretending to be weird) very shortly before she became famous.

Another one who was not happy with her is David Bowie's son, who made cryptic remarks on twitter about Gaga's "tribute" after his death which was basically just a rip off of his Ziggy Stardust persona.

I used to be a Gaga hater back in the day, because basically she's a massive phoney who has no personality whatsoever, and her whole act is a mish-mash of things other artists have done. The above examples are ones I remember, but I recall a common theme is that she is frequently accused of copying people and of being soulless.


When Gaga was inescapable after Born This Way she would really irk me. I felt like she was shamelessly pandering to LGBT people and I couldn't believe anyone (my own best friend included) was buying it. I'm LGBT myself, and while I think having famous allies is great, and they can do a lot of good for the community, it felt like a cynical ploy to capture an audience. I also found her really cringey on American Horror Story and felt like she was only there because Ryan Murphy is one of the gay guys who buys into her fully. Incidentally, after Art Pop my best friend was just like 'what the actual fuck did I just listen to?' and stopped being into her. She definitely was "inspired" by David Bowie, she's open about idolising Bowie and Freddie Mercury and owes a lot to them.

The thing is, I've seen some videos of her doing that quiet piano ballad stuff when she was at Julliard and she is actually pretty damn talented. Even though aside from Dolly Parton I'm not at all into country as a genre I thought her Joanne album had some nice songs. Some people are really made for stripped-back acoustic and soulful piano ballads where you can hear both their instrumental talent and their vocal chops and she seems to me to be at her best doing those things. She's not one of the best, but she's a good sight better than most of her contemporaries like Beyonce or Katy Perry. Neither of them can actually write music or play an instrument. She was pretty decent when she toured with Queen, enough so that I regretted not going due to her fronting the band.

Her acting has really improved. My soul cringes at the thought of her doing a heavy Queens accent and saying Harley Quinn stuff, because if Margot Robbie couldn't pull it off she has no chance, but she's improved a lot in AHS and she wasn't bad in A Star Was Born, all things considered. She is definitely getting roles that she isn't experienced enough to be cast in, but that says more about Hollywood than her. I think she'll improve and be one of the better singers-turned-actresses out there. Certainly she's better than Madonna, although Madonna was okay when she basically played herself.

Madonna's not wrong that she's reductive. She absolutely is. Both of them hide behind outrageous behaviour (I'm using the term liberally here) and outrageous costumes and elaborate shows. The difference is that Gaga actually has talent hiding underneath all those layers of spackle, and Madonna really doesn't. Her talent was honestly mostly marketing herself well early on.


tl;dr Gaga ripped off Madonna/Bowie and Madonna's right about it, but Gaga has some real musical talent to fall back on and Madonna does not.
 
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Yep, Born This Way is a rip off of the melody of Express Yourself. Madonna said Lady Gaga was "reductive", when asked about her. Lady Gaga also tried to go the shock-the-Catholic-church route that Madonna did.

Lady Gaga had an associate in her late teens early twenties, Lina Morgana, who was on the same record label as her. She sadly died after falling or jumping off a roof. Lina's mother says that Lady Gaga copied her whole act, and appropriated the "darkness" of Lina's genuine mental health problems. While this is subjective, what is certain is that Gaga started out wearing very ordinary clothes and singing slow songs at a piano, and only started her Lady Gaga persona and the associated traits (outrageousness, the costumes, the pretending to be weird) very shortly before she became famous.

Another one who was not happy with her is David Bowie's son, who made cryptic remarks on twitter about Gaga's "tribute" after his death which was basically just a rip off of his Ziggy Stardust persona.

I used to be a Gaga hater back in the day, because basically she's a massive phoney who has no personality whatsoever, and her whole act is a mish-mash of things other artists have done. The above examples are ones I remember, but I recall a common theme is that she is frequently accused of copying people and of being soulless.
I always liked Lady Gaga, but something she did really bothered me and I don't think I can express it anywhere but a place like this.

Around the time of metoo, she revealed she had been raped by someone high up in the music industry. But she made it sound like it was just some weird, funny story that happened, and the dude was probably still out there raping women and instead of naming him (when it would have been the perfect time to do so) and stopping his crimes, she just seemed like she wanted to grift off metoo without taking any real risks or doing something actually noble like outing the guy.

I always saw her as a Strong Woman(tm) prior to that, so finding out she wouldn't do something that could actually help women when she had the best possible opportunity to do so put a sour taste in my mouth.
 
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