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How deep in denial she is about his depression just shows how much she must have ignored it before his death.
This is pretty normal for parents with a child who attempted suicide. If you don't want your kid to become a knight of the rope, asking them if they feel sad a lot and why they think they're sad is a good first step. You get some surprising and pretty interesting (and depressing) answers. Too bad no one can ask Archie.

On another topic, I had an interesting conversation with someone at work about pro-life positions. I never understood what old timers meant by "it's all over, but for the shouting." Sometimes death has occured. Archie had brain matter in his spinal column. If his EEG shows no activity and he has brain matter in his spinal column, it really is over, no matter what Hollie or anyone else says.

I wonder if she has the empathy to understand that many of the people who looked at Archie probably wondered why this had to happen and how sad it is we can't all shave years off our own lives and give them to him and fix him. It's horrible to fail a young boy like this, even if there was no way to succeed.

She's so weird that I can't figure out what she's thinking. I've seen parents fling themselves into graves and refuse to turn over dead children to the point of being hostile to staff. I guess at least she's enough of a narc she doesn't have to live in that hell of replaying every single step of Archie's existence wondering whose fault it was. That kind of thing destroys people from the inside out.
 
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She brings up that shes working with a family that just set up an anti bullying organization. I have searched their child's name on google and am not coming up with any articles about this incident.
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She brings up that shes working with a family that just set up an anti bullying organization. I have searched their child's name on google and am not coming up with any articles about this incident.
Christoforos Nicolaou - not exactly high profile, mentions of death but no background explaining how

They had a GFM but only raised a third of their target - perhaps Hollie wants to help them grift harder
 
The inquest already confirmed that there was one message where he messaged her he was depressed and wished to end it all. So if THAT was allowed to be seen I can't imagine how awful the shit she hid is.
What’s the extent of these messages? How is she so in denial that the rest of her sons suffering just fell on her deaf ears? I can’t understand her thought patterns whether she is just in rock solid denial or she cannot legitimately comprehend the enormity of her situation to stave off a wave of madness.
 
His incredibly sloppy, wide, swinging punches, and bouncing around, happy feet during the mma videos will never not make me bust out laughing. He was fast and flexible because he was a kid, but its glaringly obvious to even non martialy educated lay persons that he was very below average and had absolutely no talent or discipline. He just looks like a drunken barfight video sped up. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.. Its shamefully embarrassing that shes even posting those videos.
Between that, only being able to show off participation certificates, and the earlier post about him not wanting to continue with one of the sports after getting a poor grade - it's all pointing towards a total lack of talent for any of his sports/gymnastics "interests". I don't believe for a second that he was looking forward to his MMA fight as Hollie has claimed, I think he was fucking bricking it.
 
Why is that child nearly nude in most of her clips? And that's including the ones where he is in bed with her. This is so utterly distasteful and borderline perv. What is the matter with her? The brat had clear behavioural problems that she seems to encourage rather than deal with in any meaningful way. She is so vile and loathsome and just what a "muvva" shouldn't be.
 
Any normal parent would be saying "get down before you hurt yourself". The fact she just laughs and videos him instills in him that this kind of behaviour is entertaining and perfectly acceptable. Even if his death was found to be accidental, she has demonstrated a complete lack of decent parenting. She viewed him as her pet, or her partner, but not her child.
 
Any normal parent would be saying "get down before you hurt yourself". The fact she just laughs and videos him instills in him that this kind of behaviour is entertaining and perfectly acceptable. Even if his death was found to be accidental, she has demonstrated a complete lack of decent parenting. She viewed him as her pet, or her partner, but not her child.
I just wonder how many of Archiesarmy are bringing their kids up in the same way. Or why none mention Archie's lack of clothing in almost every video?

I'm started to think that Hollie locked Archie's clothes away to stop him leaving the house. But that's mad of me, isn't it?
 
Is it normal to be able to lock the front room in your own house? If not, I don't want to even begin to imagine what unsavoury things went on in there that required that.
It is definitely not normal to have a lock on your front room door. I've seen partition doors that merge two rooms into one large one (quite common in old Victorian houses) and those can be locked, but certainly not the regular doors in dinky modern houses.

The post says she locked the room because she was sick of him messing it up so soon after she tidied it, but even that sounds weird to me, even if she's saying it with tongue in cheek. Perhaps it's hard to keep the house to exacting Hinch Hun standards when you have an ill-disciplined brat energetic child bouncing around and kicking seven bells out of everything, but I gather from other parents that - newsflash - kids are messy little agents of chaos and keeping a pristine house is out of the question until the little darlings have flown the nest!
 
Well it is. i don't think that i can remember a family who live in a house whose rooms aren't lockable. Or is this an age thing? As someone in their 70s everyone had lockable doors downstairs. Most people had lockable lavatories and bedrooms.

Edit: The kitchens all had doors that can be locked too.

As i said this might be a thing of the past - i'm sure that it was partly to deter burglars but there are other methods now perhaps.
 
I have lived in many houses and apartments, and in many towns and cities within Europe. From 500 year old cottages through to new build apartments. Never seen internal locks on a family home, except from on the doors of the toilet and shower room. Which is normal.
 
Is it normal to be able to lock the front room in your own house? If not, I don't want to even begin to imagine what unsavoury things went on in there that required that.
Eh, sort of. PL: Our house in London was built in the 20s, and every door inside is lockable with a key. Mind you it’s all original to the house, and I’d imagine most houses that have been renovated do not have the original doors inside. Every house I’ve lived in stateside seem to only have front door and bedroom locks. In Libya you only lock the front door, well, barricade it nowadays. I would think that Hollie’s house wouldn’t have locks internally, especially if it was council assisted housing.
 
His incredibly sloppy, wide, swinging punches, and bouncing around, happy feet during the mma videos will never not make me bust out laughing. He was fast and flexible because he was a kid, but its glaringly obvious to even non martialy educated lay persons that he was very below average and had absolutely no talent or discipline. He just looks like a drunken barfight video sped up. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.. Its shamefully embarrassing that shes even posting those videos.

He might look shite at MMA in the video but he was suspended from school for physically assaulting another pupil just before his ‘accident’.
I bet the other pupil wasn’t chosen for his ability to beat the crap out of the potential (thug) MMA fighter either.
 
She brings up that shes working with a family that just set up an anti bullying organization. I have searched their child's name on google and am not coming up with any articles about this incident.
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No wonder Hollie would wanna partner with them. Their story sounds like they neglected their kid and let him die. There's a huge gap in that story between "he was bright and kind and sweet" and "he was driven to suicide by the DARK WEB".

I listened to the MATI episode about Hollie again the other day and it got me thinking about how traumatic she made the entire thing. Naturally she was fucked up after he killed himself, especially given how she mishandled the entire situation before and after it happened, but his sisters especially are fucked in a way that they wouldn't have been if she had just let him die. Getting a call that he's gone is awful, but watching him sit there for weeks on end rotting away and clinging to the tiniest glimmer of hope that he's still alive only to then sit there and watch him die again as they pull him off life support is the worst thing you could do. Not only to Archie but to them as well.
 
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