James Rolfe / James D. Rolfe / Angry Video Game Nerd (AVGN) / Rex Viper and Cinemassacre / Screenwave - Now with not much grieving about a 41-year old man still making videos on YouTube. We're the balls on the dick.

[TVB]

At this point, Armake's death is yesterdays news and has been discussed in other threads like Spoony's.

Actually, it's been a while since I've been on the Spoony thread

 

[skykiii]

At this point, Armake's death is yesterdays news and has been discussed in other threads like Spoony's.

Actually, it's been a while since I've been on the Spoony thread

Same here.

Reading Rolfe's thread doesn't bother me because I never had any particularly strong feelings on him.

I don't touch Doug's thread because even at his height I always thought of Doug as just someone who will make one good video for every ten cancerous ones.

But reading about Spoony.... hurts. I had a longer sperg about it but honestly it would be more appropriate to post in Spoony's own thread. Basically, in a lot of ways Spoony felt like someone who should be sympathized with, and he got screwed over. To put it in an autistic way.... Spoons has a legion of Miles Edgworths out there crucifying him but no Phoenix Wright to defend him, and he seriously needs one because the Edgeworth's cases have some gaping holes. (Whenever Spoony does get a defender, its someone on the level of Larry Butz).

 

[deeman]

But reading about Spoony.... hurts. I had a longer sperg about it but honestly it would be more appropriate to post in

Wait... Spoony has a thread on KF? It seems more like a Warthog thread with some Spoony sprinkled over it nowadays

 

[skykiii]

Wait... Spoony has a thread on KF? It seems more like a Warthog thread with some Spoony sprinkled over it nowadays

Yeah in retrospect that's another reason I stopped keeping track of the Spoony thread, because it started being more about some stupid twitter bitch I didn't care about.

I never thought a KF topic could have a "jump the shark" moment (particularly a "it went downhill because a new character took over the show" moment) but here we are...

 

[byuu]

Yeah in retrospect that's another reason I stopped keeping track of the Spoony thread, because it started being more about some stupid twitter bitch I didn't care about.

I never thought a KF topic could have a "jump the shark" moment (particularly a "it went downhill because a new character took over the show" moment) but here we are...

Spoony is just too lazy to even produce lolcow content.

 

[skykiii]

Spoony is just too lazy to even produce lolcow content.

Honestly I never thought it was laziness. The guy spent YEARS being basically abused by literally everyone, and any time he reacts to it, no matter how thoroughly in-the-right he is, HE gets blamed for "not being a good sport" about it. It's the standard "the bullies aren't bad for picking on you, you're bad for trying to do something about it" mentality that America is just enamored with.

Anyone who has ever been to high school has seen it and should empathize with Spoony, but for some reason, the internet doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna defend his Twitter Pity Party While Refusing To Actually Do Anything era.... I just don't really blame Spoony for falling into that rut. He was essentially railroaded into it.

It's like, I had a friend years back, who had to live with his parents.... because his mom was in a wheelchair, see, and he was helping caretake for her. But he was an adult man, so of course a lot of people heard the "grown man who lives with his parents" part and not the "because he's taking care of his invalid mom" part and just assumed he was some lazy slob.

That's not exactly Spoony's situation, but its similar in that people judging Spoony tend to only hear the part that makes him sound like the asshole without checking to see if he might in some way be justified.

EDIT: I'm actually now reminded of something similar regarding the author of Yuyu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter. I forget the guy's name. Story goes around that Yuyu ended because the dude locked himself in a room and threatened to commit suicide if he wasn't allowed to end it. First time I heard this story, it was presented as a story about the terrifying level of control Japanese publishers have over authors that he would even need to do this. Nowadays whenever I hear this story told, it's presented as "wow, so the author of this manga was a nutcase, huh?" Same deal with Spoony--people who don't know the larger context just tend to take what they hear at face value.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Honestly I never thought it was laziness. The guy spent YEARS being basically abused by literally everyone, and any time he reacts to it, no matter how thoroughly in-the-right he is, HE gets blamed for "not being a good sport" about it. It's the standard "the bullies aren't bad for picking on you, you're bad for trying to do something about it" mentality that America is just enamored with.

Anyone who has ever been to high school has seen it and should empathize with Spoony, but for some reason, the internet doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna defend his Twitter Pity Party While Refusing To Actually Do Anything era.... I just don't really blame Spoony for falling into that rut. He was essentially railroaded into it.

It's like, I had a friend years back, who had to live with his parents.... because his mom was in a wheelchair, see, and he was helping caretake for her. But he was an adult man, so of course a lot of people heard the "grown man who lives with his parents" part and not the "because he's taking care of his invalid mom" part and just assumed he was some lazy slob.

That's not exactly Spoony's situation, but its similar in that people judging Spoony tend to only hear the part that makes him sound like the asshole without checking to see if he might in some way be justified.

EDIT: I'm actually now reminded of something similar regarding the author of Yuyu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter. I forget the guy's name. Story goes around that Yuyu ended because the dude locked himself in a room and threatened to commit suicide if he wasn't allowed to end it. First time I heard this story, it was presented as a story about the terrifying level of control Japanese publishers have over authors that he would even need to do this. Nowadays whenever I hear this story told, it's presented as "wow, so the author of this manga was a nutcase, huh?" Same deal with Spoony--people who don't know the larger context just tend to take what they hear at face value.

How much Patreon money did Spoony take from his fans while giving zero content? What did Spoony do when his movie goal was reached? Oh yeah, nothing. Spoony got to where he was because of his own actions. It's been about a decade since these events and he is just there, doing nothing.

He has had more than enough time to fix his life after "falling from grace". "Muh depression" isn't an excuse. He is like DSP and every other lolcow who couldn't take any form of criticism and threw hissy fits at his fans or blamed them, which is what James Rolfe did when talking about the trolls though not to the extent which Spoony did.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

So I have been listening to the audiobook of James's autobiography and I am very, very conflicted.
I am not someone in the camp that thinks hes a drooling retard who cannot wipe his own ass, but he has done a few insanely stupid things.
The biggest was when he was a freshman in college, his dorm buddies ruined their dorms and were generally public menaces, burning stuff indoors, smoking weed, punching holes in the walls and ceiling, tearing apart cabinetry, and being insanely rude to the college.
He recorded almost EVERYTHING and before he went on summer break he edited everything down into a 40 minute long best of show, with him narrating the events as if he had a part in the chaos (even though he swears he never did anything aside from record the events)
Literally had a part where one guy flipped off the camera and said "FUck this school"
Well when summer ended, he got a call from the head of the college and then a letter, saying he was kicked out for participating in the events.
He had to show his family what happened and why, and even though he did have his termination reduced to a one year suspension, the very fact he MADE a goddamn video showing off everything shows his judgement is far from ideal.
He only had the video distributed among his buddies, so one was either a snitch or the dean stole the tape.
Why, in the name of god would you make a piece of incriminating evidence that would/could fuck you over?
Look, I still like James's old stuff, but this was hard to swallow. Also I tried watching his new stuff and its terrible. James really, honestly should retire (unless April won't let him)

Because he was "making films for his filmography, it was art"

When told to apologize, he was like "Apologize for what? For being a filmmaker?"

EDIT: I'm actually now reminded of something similar regarding the author of Yuyu Hakusho and Hunter x Hunter. I forget the guy's name. Story goes around that Yuyu ended because the dude locked himself in a room and threatened to commit suicide if he wasn't allowed to end it. First time I heard this story, it was presented as a story about the terrifying level of control Japanese publishers have over authors that he would even need to do this. Nowadays whenever I hear this story told, it's presented as "wow, so the author of this manga was a nutcase, huh?" Same deal with Spoony--people who don't know the larger context just tend to take what they hear at face value.

Honestly, Yoshihiro Togashi IS known to be a slob. Just google "Togashi's room"
The joke goes that whenever a new Dragon Quest comes out, HxH goes into hiatus.

 

[DinnerDates]

James is so boring now people talking about Spoony in his thread.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Even though James has long since given up on making good content 2006-2010 AVGN is fucking great and I highly recommend people rewatch it. It's comfy and it's kino. You can say the guy is pretentious (he is) and lazy (he is) but he did at one point make good videos.

 

[deeman]

James is so boring now people talking about Spoony in his thread.

Wich is reeeeal bad since they are hardly talking about Spoony in the Spoony thread.

 

[DinnerDates]

Wich is reeeeal bad since they are hardly talking about Spoony in the Spoony thread.

Is there anyone from TGWTG that's worth milking these days. I only follow James and Angry Hose.

 

[deeman]

Is there anyone from TGWTG that's worth milking these days. I only follow James and Angry Hose.

Not closely, Linkara and Filmbrain has their moments i guess, Doug is too self aware to be considered a cow IMO. But maybe someone is of another opinion?

 

[Jeff Boomhauer]

Lindsay/Nostalgia Chick did have her moments, until her tweets about Mulan getting the wrath from the woke mob.
JesuOtaku also had her moments, especially when she trooned out, but she's been rather boring lately.

Otherwise, no. No one else from Channel Awesome is really worth milking. It's all just the usual autism, begging for money, and/or typical political sperging.

As for James, the Cinemassacre channel has recently started uploading YouTube shorts. You can't even call it nostalgia baiting, because one of them is from the cat episode he did last year.

 

[TVB]

Lindsay/Nostalgia Chick did have her moments, until her tweets about Mulan getting the wrath from the woke mob.
JesuOtaku also had her moments, especially when she trooned out, but she's been rather boring lately.

Otherwise, no. No one else from Channel Awesome is really worth milking. It's all just the usual autism, begging for money, and/or typical political sperging.

As for James, the Cinemassacre channel has recently started uploading YouTube shorts. You can't even call it nostalgia baiting, because one of them is from the cat episode he did last year.

There is Linkara, who gets pissy over OneyPlays.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

TheCinemassacreTruth subreddit is full of such a-logs that if you even so much as say something vaguely positive about James or Mike such as "I liked their videos in my youth" you'll get downvoted lol

 

[skykiii]

How much Patreon money did Spoony take from his fans while giving zero content? What did Spoony do when his movie goal was reached? Oh yeah, nothing. Spoony got to where he was because of his own actions. It's been about a decade since these events and he is just there, doing nothing.

He has had more than enough time to fix his life after "falling from grace". "Muh depression" isn't an excuse. He is like DSP and every other lolcow who couldn't take any form of criticism and threw hissy fits at his fans or blamed them, which is what James Rolfe did when talking about the trolls though not to the extent which Spoony did.

Like I said, I'm not here to defend his streamer/twitter-addict period. I've just never liked how literally everyone frames the story as "he got big but then the fame went to his head and he started being lazy" (which is literally the story you will get if you look up "what happened to Spoony?") when the full story was that Spoony was getting crap from literally all corners and so his burnout was probably understandible.

That's why I made the analogy to that manga author--similar case where people hear only one part of the story out of context and conclude the guy was an asshole.

James is so boring now people talking about Spoony in his thread.

It's weird. James for me is basically a guy I have some sort of nostalgia for because his videos were from a period where the internet looked wide and open and full of endless possibilities and anything could happen and if I click enough links it'll take me to the gumdrop kingdom..... But I never actually was that huge an AVGN fan.

It's the internet equivalent of when you have a cartoon you didn't like that much as a kid, but you have way more interest in it now specifically because its something you remember being part of your childhood. Except that I would've already been in my late teens or adulthood at the time AVGN premiered.

If I had to compare them to classic cartoons, AVGN would be The Simpsons. Spoony would be Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates--a show that had something intangibly special about it, that wasn't quite perfect, but everyone who saw it loved it and wants it to come back.... except with an added element that people keep thinking that if they rage hard enough that'll convince the creator to make new episodes (which we will inevitably then lambast for not being as good as we want).

.... Hell, didn't that actually happen to Spoony? I recall hearing he reviewed The Force Awakens but everyone hated it because he was a "pussy-whipped SJW." That just kinda tells you everything, doesn't it? If Spoony did make a new video, we would all just be bitching that its not as good as his old stuff. The only way he would get a positive reception is if a Mega Man 11 situation occured.

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

There's not much going on with any of the old CA people these days. None of them have made any significant waves in the last couple of years. Ironically most of them seem to have taken a page from Doug, they just make videos for whatever small audience they still have and don't get involved in politics/drama/cancel culture anymore. Or in Spoony's case have sort of fallen off the face of the Earth.

I think reality has mostly set in for all of them. They know they are minor internet celebrities from the days of old, and they aren't going anywhere beyond that. I guess you could say the same thing about James. None of their film industry aspirations worked out, so what else is there to say?

 

[PeriodicTrouble]

Yeah in retrospect that's another reason I stopped keeping track of the Spoony thread, because it started being more about some stupid twitter bitch I didn't care about.

I never thought a KF topic could have a "jump the shark" moment (particularly a "it went downhill because a new character took over the show" moment) but here we are...

Yeah they really should of just given Warthog her own thread instead of making her a co-Lolcow. It just makes me less interested in looking at his thread if most of the time they're just talking about Rachel instead of Spoony. They were just talking about Jewwario because there's just that little to talk about in regards to current Spoony.

There's not much going on with any of the old CA people these days. None of them have made any significant waves in the last couple of years. Ironically most of them seem to have taken a page from Doug, they just make videos for whatever small audience they still have and don't get involved in politics/drama/cancel culture anymore. Or in Spoony's case have sort of fallen off the face of the Earth.

I think reality has mostly set in for all of them. They know they are minor internet celebrities from the days of old, and they aren't going anywhere beyond that. I guess you could say the same thing about James. None of their film industry aspirations worked out, so what else is there to say?

Yeah pretty much. Sometimes something interesting will happen like Lupa getting into drama over Power Rangers SPD, but for the most time it's just nothing really going on. It's just speculation over what will they do next like with Lindsay's thread.

 

[skykiii]

I think reality has mostly set in for all of them. They know they are minor internet celebrities from the days of old, and they aren't going anywhere beyond that. I guess you could say the same thing about James. None of their film industry aspirations worked out, so what else is there to say?

Someone should really tell these people that they dodged a bullet. I mean, they get to continue living the life of a small-timer who has some degree of control over their own life. If they had actually taken off in the film industry I bet they all would've been fucking miserable.