Opinion The Pandemic of Lonely Men Not Women’s Problem - Don't need no man #4,683,592

Journalists nationwide are covering the hottest new pandemic that gets them clicks: the pandemic of lonely men.

Major publications like Psychology Today, and BBC’s Science Focus have covered the problem, saying COVID destroyed men’s social lives in particular, and the endemic of loneliness in men causes them undo hardship and suffering.

With the rise of loneliness came the rise of misogyny, with once-hidden corners of the internet becoming outlets for men to share their struggles in finding a mate. These communities become echo chambers, blaming women for men’s inability to connect or find a mate. If only women had lower standards, accepted men for what they were, and weren’t only interested in the top 10% of men, there wouldn’t be a problem.

Men’s Loneliness Not Women’s Problem

Women are speaking out on the issue. That men are lonely and can’t attract a mate is a men’s problem, not a women’s problem.

Women came out in droves to support this idea in the popular Reddit community dedicated to women’s issues, R/twochromosomes.

A user turned to Reddit to rant about the expectation that women should solve men’s loneliness.

“Recently read yet another post about the “epidemic of lonely men,” the original poster (OP) began before going into a rant about how the comments of that post focused on women as the problem.

“That’s just men projecting their top desire for a romantic partner being attractive onto women. Men are never going to learn until they realize they aren’t competing with 6’5 chads who’ll just cheat because let’s face it, men are only as honest as their options,” she continued.

Men Aren’t Competing With Other Men

Men fail to understand that they aren’t competing with other men. They are competing with the happiness and fulfillment a woman can provide herself. And they’re failing spectacularly.

The OP continued to share exactly what men are up against, and it’s not some other dude.

“Men are competing with a full and enjoyable life without the hassle of raising a man and his get. They are competing with never having to pick up after them and be expected to manage every holiday/birthday for a man and HIS side of the family. They’re competing with a free lifestyle, not catering to the whims of everyone else. They’re competing with freedom to buy everything they need/own a home/have financial security without being expected to regularly put out as a condition of continuing some relationship.”

Women No Longer Need Men

With advances in women’s rights, women gained the ability to take care of themselves. They no longer need to rely on men for financial security or a place to live. We can give that to ourselves.

Unfortunately, it’s only been true for the past two generations. Even many of our mothers couldn’t get a line of credit without a man’s signature. Women were fired for getting pregnant, passed up for promotions because “a man needs the job,” and thought of as lesser in the workforce.

Even now, women still face discrimination at work, but things are slowly improving, and women finally have the opportunity to take care of themselves.

Some Men Want to Push Women Back

Rather than rise to the challenge and become equal partners that would enhance a woman’s life, men are attempting to push women back.

One severe backlash we’re already seeing is the rise in pro-life legislation across the country. Women who can’t control their own reproduction are more likely to need male assistance, become trapped in unhealthy relationships, or face poverty. It’s far harder to leave a terrible relationship when kids are involved, and men know this. They want women to be trapped with them.

Other communities take it even further, advocating for stripping women of the right to vote, own property or exist without men.

To Alleviate Male Loneliness, Men Need to Improve

The one thing these male communities refuse to consider is self-improvement.

“They put the blame on “chads” because then it’s a genetic lottery, and they are absolved of the responsibility of becoming someone women would want to be with,” shared one commenter on the thread.

Another said, “It’s so weird to me to have that little motivation to improve oneself in any way.”

Men think they can continue to be lazy, incompetent users while attracting a desirable partner. They believe women should flock to them solely based on the fact that they’re a man.

The entitled attitude turns women off even more. Women want an equal partner. They want someone who will contribute to the household, parent their own children, share expenses, and handle their own health and wellness.

Women no longer want to manage the household, juggle childcare, and complete all the domestic duties while also bringing in the paycheck.

Women have looked at the options and realized being single is far better than being attached to a man they must also take care of.

Men must step up and contribute if they want to attract a mate. They must enhance a woman’s life rather than make it more difficult.

Men, are you up to that challenge?

This post was inspired by the rant about men’s loneliness on the TwoXChromosomes Subreddit.

 
I agree Tinder isn't where you meet your wife, but the girl on Tinder can still be going to your local church or on OKCupid. Depending on the figures 15-30% of people have tattoos now. 1/3 odds of the girl you like having another dude's name tattoo on her asshole isn't great is it?

How do you have a trad relationship when other women will intentionally sabotage your wife's tradness because they're bitter she got some and they didn't? Serious problem with groups of women when they see a married man or someone else doing better. A lot of marriages end because a jealous friend sees the ring and dives for the cock.

How do you make trad a real thing in 2023 clown world? The average man wants a woman with 0-3 sexual partners including themselves. Some quick googling lead me to this and.. well you can do the math. 2 sexual partners is not common.

  • Between ages 25 and 44 had a median of 4.2 sexual partners, while men in that age group had a median of 6.1 sexual partners. (These are medians, not averages. These medians are based on number of lifetime sexual partners among sexually experienced men and women, meaning they don't take into account people who have had zero sexual partners.)
  • A 2015 study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found millennials have an average of 8 sexual partners.
  • A 2017 survey of 2,180 people from the U.S. and Europe from U.K. health service Superdrug Online Doctor found women had a lifetime average of 7 sexual partners. Men had an average of 8 sexual partners.
You need to be the change you want to see in the world. Be trad yourself, then you try to find a trad GF. Being trad allows you to sniff out non-trad dangerhairs more easily. Focus on your career, so you can support a stay-at-home wife (I know the small hats have made this an uphill battle, but the only other option is to give up and die out). When you become a high-value male, resist the urge to join the cock carousel and sire bastard children with BPD femcels (both men and women contribute to the statistics you cite). Work out, buy a house, and own a gun, so you can protect your wife and children from our rapidly approaching dystopia.

If you can't find a trad wife and die alone, at least you were doing your part to save the race.
Better question:

How does stewing over blackpill statistics get you closer to what you want?

Another question:

How does any of this refute the dude’s statement that church is a good place to find marriage material? Cause it is. I attest to it.

I wasn’t even raised religious, but my wife was. No tattoos, one prior relationship, her friends are also based and non subversive.
This guy gets it.
 
The epidemic of male loneliness has less to do with 'oh I can't get my qt3.14 gf' and more to do with men not maintaining strong social connections as they get older, unlike women who more often than not have quite large social circles they're in contact with regularly. To assume it's just pining for a romantic partner is rather self-centred.

yep. women who are lonely are specifically sad that they can't *partner,* as opposed to men who are lonely and sad that literally no one cares if they live or die.

people on this thread are upset about women saying "not my problem" and I agree it actually it everyone's problem, but just because I'm going to suffer from the poor results of all these undersocialized sad men roaming around doesn't mean there's anything I can do about it.
 
Better question:

How does stewing over blackpill statistics get you closer to what you want?

Another question:

How does any of this refute the dude’s statement that church is a good place to find marriage material? Cause it is. I attest to it.

I wasn’t even raised religious, but my wife was. No tattoos, one prior relationship, her friends are also based and non subversive.
You may as well just said why don't you hang around with a group of niggers regardless of statistics.
 
Civilization in much of the Western World (and to some extent the Orient) has been predicated on marriage for thousands of years, and so these ideas are in contravention to values thousands of years old. Men need women as much as women need men.
These women think they don't need men, but their naive ideas, if unabated, will lead to civilizational collapse (or something very close to it) within a hundred years if not much sooner.
As others have stated, these half baked ideas have made women miserable as well But the social and cultural programming is strong, and thus these ideas persist.
 
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To Alleviate Male Loneliness, Men Need to Improve

Women like this are mistaking their moment in the sun with a change in the climate. The society has become weak and gynocentric, that's all. Conditions like this don't last forever. Women will either preside over a societal collapse, or they'll recede as some legitimate threat looms and men (or at least masculine ideals) preside again.

The fact is that we've had a society without any real external threat for so long, a sort of modern, faux-aristocratic court has set in, where introspection and "safety" and "being polite" are the highest virtues. Females have always dominated such weakened societies. This has happened to countless other cultures, from the Turks to the French to the Chinese and on, with women suddenly finding themselves wielding greater influence as society feminizes and basically runs on the fumes of its past accomplishments, until it's either wiped out or shaken out of decadence.
 
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I know you're going to ree at me because you can't help it but serious question.

How do I remove sexual partners, tattoos, mental illness and piercings from women? I can't have a trad wife if the women around me have debased themselves beyond any acceptable traditional levels. It's impossible to return to tradition with someone who has acted in self destructive ways you cannot reverse.

Men have never maintained good social connections. They have traditionally been dragged into them by fellow travellers and wives. Your wife will befriend all the other women around her and you will turn up to their house with her. Or pick the kids up and meet other dads like you. Men are generally pretty poor at making friends unless they're in some sort of sports ball club and even then they're rarely good friends and more mates you play sports ball with each week and share a pint afterwards.
if you were valuable husband material you would be married or engaged by now.

from what you're writing here, your actual dating pool is somewhat unfortunate, while your fantasy world is full of wholesome imagery of traditional gender roles where the man works hard all day and the woman creates a pleasant homelife.

There's nothing wrong with wanting the latter situation but there's a massive disconnect if that's what you want, but what is available to you to date is not marriage material.

You need to fix that. You need to fix your work life and your social life. Figure out where the people are who value home and family and become valuable to them.
 
if you were valuable husband material you would be married or engaged by now.

from what you're writing here, your actual dating pool is somewhat unfortunate, while your fantasy world is full of wholesome imagery of traditional gender roles where the man works hard all day and the woman creates a pleasant homelife.

There's nothing wrong with wanting the latter situation but there's a massive disconnect if that's what you want, but what is available to you to date is not marriage material.

You need to fix that. You need to fix your work life and your social life. Figure out where the people are who value home and family and become valuable to them.
I have a wife and 3 kids. I'm not talking about MY dating life, I'm talking about my son/friend's dating life in a few years. Young men don't want to settle for used goods and our society uses and spits out women because they're too stupid to know any better. I know a lot of lonely men who aren't looking for a miracle woman, they just want one who's not defiled herself or been passed around/gang banged into insanity. It's easy to say fix your social life but where do you find these mythical women? Church is now all old women and born again fuckholes praying the orgies and STDs away. Young adults don't attend church any more. Good girls staying how to watch netflix aren't exactly easy to find and dating sites they might use fucks them up.
 
Ok there's a lot of vaguery here about "be trad" but I'm going to give specific advice.

Church communities and any tradcon groups desperately need young men around who aren't just showing up expecting church to be a pussy dispenser. There's a lot of that so you're going to have really prove yourself.

Young men are needed to drive the van and help out with the team and shovel the walk but even more importantly, having strong based young men around keeps pervs away.

Go to church, volunteer for the shit jobs, don't be weird about the girls. Prove yourself over time doing things away from kids and young women. Then you will get to drive the van and stuff like that and then you will be around the kids and that's where the motherly young women are.
 
I have a wife and 3 kids. I'm not talking about MY dating life, I'm talking about my son/friend's dating life in a few years. Young men don't want to settle for used goods and our society uses and spits out women because they're too stupid to know any better. I know a lot of lonely men who aren't looking for a miracle woman, they just want one who's not defiled herself or been passed around/gang banged into insanity. It's easy to say fix your social life but where do you find these mythical women? Church is now all old women and born again fuckholes praying the orgies and STDs away. Young adults don't attend church any more. Good girls staying how to watch netflix aren't exactly easy to find and dating sites they might use fucks them up.
oh ffs if you have kids and you're on here talking like this there's no help for you
 
I have a wife and 3 kids. I'm not talking about MY dating life, I'm talking about my son/friend's dating life in a few years. Young men don't want to settle for used goods and our society uses and spits out women because they're too stupid to know any better. I know a lot of lonely men who aren't looking for a miracle woman, they just want one who's not defiled herself or been passed around/gang banged into insanity. It's easy to say fix your social life but where do you find these mythical women? Church is now all old women and born again fuckholes praying the orgies and STDs away. Young adults don't attend church any more. Good girls staying how to watch netflix aren't exactly easy to find and dating sites they might use fucks them up.
Most Slavic immigrants are orthodox or Catholic if they’re Polish, Latinos are overwhelmingly Catholic, etc etc

I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I assume you just don’t associate with religious people
 
this only perpetuates a problem
Therin lies the rub. You are content to sit back and wait for women to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in your lap. Just like the author of this article expects to sit back and wait for men to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in her lap.
I have a wife and 3 kids. I'm not talking about MY dating life, I'm talking about my son/friend's dating life in a few years. Young men don't want to settle for used goods and our society uses and spits out women because they're too stupid to know any better. I know a lot of lonely men who aren't looking for a miracle woman, they just want one who's not defiled herself or been passed around/gang banged into insanity. It's easy to say fix your social life but where do you find these mythical women? Church is now all old women and born again fuckholes praying the orgies and STDs away. Young adults don't attend church any more. Good girls staying how to watch netflix aren't exactly easy to find and dating sites they might use fucks them up.
Damn, it sounds like your church has been pozzed by the antichrist my dude. Try becoming Amish or Mormon.
 
Then you will get to drive the van and stuff like that and then you will be around the kids and that's where the motherly young women are.
I'm not sure you should join a church if you're goal is to be around the kids.. Maybe the catholic one?
Most Slavic immigrants are orthodox or Catholic if they’re Polish, Latinos are overwhelmingly Catholic, etc etc

I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I assume you just don’t associate with religious people
How is race mixing trad? Incels who can't get a woman of their own race turn to immigrant women as they over value white children.
 
Therin lies the rub. You are content to sit back and wait for women to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in your lap. Just like the author of this article expects to sit back and wait for men to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in her lap.

Damn, it sounds like your church has been pozzed by the antichrist my dude. Try becoming Amish or Mormon.
Oh god no. You are mistaken. There is no easy solution to any of this. The damage is done, and we're riding it out. All one can do is change as much to suit the situation but very few people can, as evidence by the records of fucked things are.
 
Therin lies the rub. You are content to sit back and wait for women to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in your lap. Just like the author of this article expects to sit back and wait for men to change their behavior and drop an easy, convenient solution in her lap.

Damn, it sounds like your church has been pozzed by the antichrist my dude. Try becoming Amish or Mormon.
it sounds like he's exactly the kind of man the article is saying that women are choosing catladydom over marriage to

if you've got kids and you're like "where are their future spouses" - the answer is participating in the youth activities that you need to get off your butt and go help organize
 
if you've got kids and you're like "where are their future spouses" - the answer is participating in the youth activities that you need to get off your butt and go help organize
It's not that easy and you know it's not. I used to run a girl's soccer team for my eldest daughter and her school mats. A tranny turned up and demanded he showered with the girls and was on the team. I could not kick him out of the team due to discrimination laws and it took 1 shower for the girl's dads to threaten me for letting a boy shower with the girls. Half the team quit that night and the other half had no one to play with. Clown world makes it illegal to defend yourself from the predators. It's easy to larp with "build your own" but we all know that only works as long as you're off the radar or you get WACOed.
 
How is race mixing trad? Incels who can't get a woman of their own race turn to immigrant women as they over value white children.
I don’t find black women attractive. Not trying to shit on them if they’re actually decent people, just not my thing.

My wife is native/Latin and I DO find her attractive. I’m Slav/amerimutt and our kids look like slightly asiatic white.

If you’re all about preserving the huwite race, I’d recommend looking to Europe to try that. Population pressure to me would seem to indicate that a country in a hemisphere of the earth that is overwhelmingly Latin will eventually become overwhelmingly Latin.
 
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