Opinion The Pandemic of Lonely Men Not Women’s Problem - Don't need no man #4,683,592

Journalists nationwide are covering the hottest new pandemic that gets them clicks: the pandemic of lonely men.

Major publications like Psychology Today, and BBC’s Science Focus have covered the problem, saying COVID destroyed men’s social lives in particular, and the endemic of loneliness in men causes them undo hardship and suffering.

With the rise of loneliness came the rise of misogyny, with once-hidden corners of the internet becoming outlets for men to share their struggles in finding a mate. These communities become echo chambers, blaming women for men’s inability to connect or find a mate. If only women had lower standards, accepted men for what they were, and weren’t only interested in the top 10% of men, there wouldn’t be a problem.

Men’s Loneliness Not Women’s Problem

Women are speaking out on the issue. That men are lonely and can’t attract a mate is a men’s problem, not a women’s problem.

Women came out in droves to support this idea in the popular Reddit community dedicated to women’s issues, R/twochromosomes.

A user turned to Reddit to rant about the expectation that women should solve men’s loneliness.

“Recently read yet another post about the “epidemic of lonely men,” the original poster (OP) began before going into a rant about how the comments of that post focused on women as the problem.

“That’s just men projecting their top desire for a romantic partner being attractive onto women. Men are never going to learn until they realize they aren’t competing with 6’5 chads who’ll just cheat because let’s face it, men are only as honest as their options,” she continued.

Men Aren’t Competing With Other Men

Men fail to understand that they aren’t competing with other men. They are competing with the happiness and fulfillment a woman can provide herself. And they’re failing spectacularly.

The OP continued to share exactly what men are up against, and it’s not some other dude.

“Men are competing with a full and enjoyable life without the hassle of raising a man and his get. They are competing with never having to pick up after them and be expected to manage every holiday/birthday for a man and HIS side of the family. They’re competing with a free lifestyle, not catering to the whims of everyone else. They’re competing with freedom to buy everything they need/own a home/have financial security without being expected to regularly put out as a condition of continuing some relationship.”

Women No Longer Need Men

With advances in women’s rights, women gained the ability to take care of themselves. They no longer need to rely on men for financial security or a place to live. We can give that to ourselves.

Unfortunately, it’s only been true for the past two generations. Even many of our mothers couldn’t get a line of credit without a man’s signature. Women were fired for getting pregnant, passed up for promotions because “a man needs the job,” and thought of as lesser in the workforce.

Even now, women still face discrimination at work, but things are slowly improving, and women finally have the opportunity to take care of themselves.

Some Men Want to Push Women Back

Rather than rise to the challenge and become equal partners that would enhance a woman’s life, men are attempting to push women back.

One severe backlash we’re already seeing is the rise in pro-life legislation across the country. Women who can’t control their own reproduction are more likely to need male assistance, become trapped in unhealthy relationships, or face poverty. It’s far harder to leave a terrible relationship when kids are involved, and men know this. They want women to be trapped with them.

Other communities take it even further, advocating for stripping women of the right to vote, own property or exist without men.

To Alleviate Male Loneliness, Men Need to Improve

The one thing these male communities refuse to consider is self-improvement.

“They put the blame on “chads” because then it’s a genetic lottery, and they are absolved of the responsibility of becoming someone women would want to be with,” shared one commenter on the thread.

Another said, “It’s so weird to me to have that little motivation to improve oneself in any way.”

Men think they can continue to be lazy, incompetent users while attracting a desirable partner. They believe women should flock to them solely based on the fact that they’re a man.

The entitled attitude turns women off even more. Women want an equal partner. They want someone who will contribute to the household, parent their own children, share expenses, and handle their own health and wellness.

Women no longer want to manage the household, juggle childcare, and complete all the domestic duties while also bringing in the paycheck.

Women have looked at the options and realized being single is far better than being attached to a man they must also take care of.

Men must step up and contribute if they want to attract a mate. They must enhance a woman’s life rather than make it more difficult.

Men, are you up to that challenge?

This post was inspired by the rant about men’s loneliness on the TwoXChromosomes Subreddit.

 
I'm just going to quickly interrupt this thread's attraction of mysogynists who just hate females and don't want to be convinced otherwise with this:

Women came out in droves to support this idea in the popular Reddit community dedicated to women’s issues, R/twochromosomes.

This right here. This shit right here is a fucking trap. This article writer legitimately thinks there are natal females on /r/twochromosomes, a subreddit famously subverted by MtF troons. Look at you fucks getting your panties in a twist over shit troons, other mysogynists, have said. This thread isn't a discussion, it's a safe space for retards who just want their insane perceptions of women totes affirmed.

You are all exceptionally gay and stupid for falling into this trap.
 
My theory is that most incels are just guys who, historically, weren’t terribly bright, maybe dropped out of school and got a job building roads, in a mine, or at a factory. Hard, menial labour that needs to get done. This paid decently well, and had low barriers to entry, at the expense of destroying your body over time.

Nowadays, those jobs either don’t exist, are increasingly rare, or only hire undocumented immigrants they can pay fuck all. There is no path forward for the somewhat dim bloke, so they end up stuck at home, browsing the internet and social media.

None of this is helped by the fact that little attention has been paid to changes men have to make in a world where housewives don’t exist. Too few mothers or fathers teach their sons how to do basic shit like wash clothes, cook food, keep the house tidy or shit like that, setting a lot of young men to fail epically as soon as they move out of home, if they even do. Add to that a pre-occupation amongst these types of associating a man’s worth with what kind/how many women he’s fucked, and it’s absolutely unsurprising young men are increasingly dysfunctional.
It would seem to me that the reason why incels have fallen into the trap of endlessly blaming others rather than trying to improve their own lives regardless is because of basically all of this stuff. They have no real employment opportunities, were not raised to live in the world that modern feminists want and see no real path to any sort of personal happiness.

It really isn't their fault that modern society doesn't have a place for them, largely. That doesn't really matter as far as what they need to do to escape the trap their in, but it sure doesn't feel that way to them.

Thus the men who become proper Incels head to forums for like-minded men and stew in their own misery, becoming more extreme over time.
 
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It's honestly simple. You have the number of undersexed, lonely sadsack men hit a high enough percentage, and eventually politicians will realize they have a voting block they can appeal to. This won't happen right away,(and it won't involve armies in the literal sense) and when it does happen it will start out very subtle.

No, that won't happen, because the Woman is the better consumer. Spreads gossip and product recommendations to her friends. Women are also easier to get to "go along with the group". They also react better to emotional appeals, making them easier to manipulate using the media. Marketing companies did all this research years ago.

Sure you still have your niche Mens stuff, like Fast and Furious number 18274. But the market is shrinking for Men. Even the gaming industry is hostile towards typical masculine interests now.
 
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No, that won't happen, because the Woman is the better consumer. Spreads gossip and product recommendations to her friends. Women are also easier to get to "go along with the group". They also react better to emotional appeals, making them easier to manipulate using the media. Marketing companies did all this research years ago.

Sure you still have your niche Mens stuff, like Fast and Furious number 18274. But the market is shrinking for Men. Even the gaming industry is hostile towards typical masculine interests now.
None of the that shit matters, what matters is voting blocs, and once there's a large enough group of sadsacks or proper Incels, politicians will start appealing to them. Remember, Roe V Wade is gone now, and nothing women did to protest its removal changed that.
 
None of the that shit matters, what matters is voting blocs, and once there's a large enough group of sadsacks or proper Incels, politicians will start appealing to them.

You sound like someone in economics who would say "The Free Market solves everything". But there are people in the market with specific agendas. Things won't turn out how think they will. If such a candidate appears, they will put a stop to it like Trump.
 
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You sound like someone in economics who would say "The Free Market solves everything". But there are people in the market with specific agendas. Things won't turn out how think they will. If such a candidate appears, they will put a stop to it like Trump.
It's not going to be a matter of a single candidate. Rather it will be a growing trend that politicians will inevitably get on board with in the coming decades, or they'll wind up losing their jobs and be replaced by politicians who will appeal to a growing segment of the population.
 
Journalists nationwide are covering the hottest new pandemic that gets them clicks
I want to stop for a moment and point out the sheer audacity of this comment.

This bitch says this, against the BBC and PsyToday, while herself writing for a completely non-name clickbait rag.

The irony is off the charts with this one, didn't bother reading the rest and neither should you, she's an oxygen thief and nothing she will do in her life will justify her existence.
 
It's not going to be a matter of a single candidate. Rather it will be a growing trend that politicians will inevitably get on board with in the coming decades, or they'll wind up losing their jobs and be replaced by politicians who will appeal to a growing segment of the population.

Appealing to say primarily say, White Men. Would mean they would have to address the concerns of Men. Purpose, Meaning, Job, Family. And from all the actions they've taken in media and government, it would seem they want to destroy the family unit, the family connection. Because if you are more loyal to your family than to the Government, then they have less power over you.

So theres no reason to ever appeal to them.
 
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Appealing to say primarily say, White Men. Would mean they would have to address the concerns of Men. Purpose, Meaning, Job, Family. And from all the actions they've taken in media and government, it would seem they want to destroy the family unit, the family connection. Because if you are more loyal to your family than to the Government, then they have less power over you.

So theres no reason to ever appeal to them.
Politicians (modern ones, especially) firstly want to stay in office and make money through corruption and grift and only secondly care about any given ideology. The current trend is not the forever trend, and it will inevitably be replaced by something else.

If a large enough group of voters want a given thing bad enough, politicians will either appeal to them in various ways or be voted out for politicians who will.
 
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Yeah, it just wouldn’t make sense to tie yourself to one place like that if you’re still single. I mean you could buy a house as a rental property, but even then you’d be better off staying near it to assess shit yourself instead of writing blank checks to contractors every time something happens.

I really don’t think it’s common to buy a house before marriage. I could be wrong, but I don’t know anyone personally who has
It's boomer financial advice. "You need to buy a house! You're throwing money away on rent!" Usually it involves a bunch of optimistic assumptions about the location and one's career, and comparing mortgage payments to rent as if they are comparable.
 
Sounds like bullshit to me. Any guy who looks and acts reasonably normal, and has a job/income, can find a lady. Plenty of ladies out there who just want someone normal, nice, and who will hold up his half of the relationship.

You've heard this before - best way to find someone is to consciously not look for someone. People can smell desperation a mile away. A great source of people to meet are those who work as store clerks, servers, barbers, etc. See someone you're interested in, have them do your hair, check out your purchases, sit at the table they serve, and so on. Gives both people a chance to communicate in a neutral environment. If you are always nice and leave a decent tip, as appropriate, that's noticed. If you are a single dad, how you handle your kids is noticed. Go from there. Has worked for me, more than once.

The ladies truly worth having in life don't want a "bad boy". They don't want a boy at all, overall. They want a man. And any man with a brain doesn't want some "bad boy"'s leavings. Get into a relationship with a bad-boy's ex, the bad boy will always be in her head, exerting influence. Nope. Life is complicated and difficult enough as it is, don't believe in borrowing trouble, and that's what a guy gets when he takes up with a bad boy's leavings.
While I agree this is how you get a healthy relationship you need to have those skills already to use them on a waitress. You can't practice flirting in 1 minute bursts with someone busy and with 10 guys all eyeing her up. And you have no idea of her deeper personality at work because she HAS to smile and be nice to you. Her boss demands it and she gets a bigger tip from simps. Basically, she's faking liking you and you have no way of knowing if she's really into you until you make an ass of yourself if she isn;t.
Just find a normal girl that has actual hobbies instead of just going to church or watching TV or using social media, is religious or open to religion and is modest while not being braindead, doesn't have a bodycount or a very low one and is compatible with you on such a level that you two actually are friends instead of glorified fuckbuddies. It's not easy but it is possible.
Those girls are becoming quite rare. Social media and netflix has made staying in more popular than going out without the economic issues. You can attend local groups and events to help with that.
The problem isn’t incels themselves, as far as I’m concerned, they’re doomed, they’ve already fallen into a cycle of blaming everyone but themselves for failure.
Most incels aren't doomed, they could be saved if they could be pulled away from their peers. Most aren't that ugly or creepy, but they are convinced they are over minor issues.
It's honestly simple. You have the number of undersexed, lonely sadsack men hit a high enough percentage, and eventually politicians will realize they have a voting block they can appeal to. This won't happen right away,(and it won't involve armies in the literal sense) and when it does happen it will start out very subtle.
His name was Donald Trump. He promised to build a wall and restore America.

His daughters bare the children of Jews and he was the first step in house arresting the nation then demand they take experimental vaccinations. The same trick won't work again.
It would seem to me that the reason why incels have fallen into the trap of endlessly blaming others rather than trying to improve their own lives regardless is because of basically all of this stuff. They have no real employment opportunities, were not raised to live in the world that modern feminists want and see no real path to any sort of personal happiness.

It really isn't their fault that modern society doesn't have a place for them, largely. That doesn't really matter as far as what they need to do to escape the trap their in, but it sure doesn't feel that way to them.

Thus the men who become proper Incels head to forums for like-minded men and stew in their own misery, becoming more extreme over time.
When video games offer a man more reward for minimum effort than the real world offers for extreme effort there is no reason for men to try. Bing bing wahoo makes me feel good because I 100%ed Mario 64. Real world tells me I'm a rapist and I should take constant abuse while women and illegal aliens are handed literally everything they need and more. Why the fuck wouldn't I decide it's better to invest in Mario than it is a society that puts illegal aliens in high class hotels I couldn't even afford to rent with a high paying job? They reward illegal activity and punish the law abiding with the bill.
 
If a large enough group of voters want a given thing bad enough, politicians will either appeal to them in various ways or be voted out for politicians who will.

The popularity of Jordan Peterson and the themes he's been talking about, shows theres a massive interest from Men, and yet, the Media conducted a massive smear campaign against him, hes in threat of losing his license now. So as I said earlier. This is not a free market of ideas. There are people at the top that have specific agendas.
 
The popularity of Jordan Peterson and the themes he's been talking about, shows theres a massive interest from Men, and yet, the Media conducted a massive smear campaign against him, hes in threat of losing his license now. So as I said earlier. This is not a free market of ideas. There are people at the top that have specific agendas.
You're thinking in terms of years, these sorts of changes take decades.

:Edit: I guess I should add here that all this assumes that the state doesn't buy the men off with the stuff I mentioned in my first post in this thread. "legalizing prostitution and making sexual surrogate therapy coverable by stuff like medicare and medicaid" this would do quite a lot to reduce the number of under-sexed and miserable men that are fuel for various radical ideologies and groups out there.

Personally, I think they'll just legalize proper whoring and maybe even subsidize it in various ways. They can even make it an empowering, sex-positive feminism thing if they want to, which they probably do and will.
 
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The popularity of Jordan Peterson and the themes he's been talking about, shows theres a massive interest from Men, and yet, the Media conducted a massive smear campaign against him, hes in threat of losing his license now. So as I said earlier. This is not a free market of ideas. There are people at the top that have specific agendas.
Peterson is controlled opposition the same way Shapiro is. He's a waste of your time and a self help guru of the internet era. Real change doesn't come from benzo addicts.
You're thinking in terms of years, these sorts of changes take decades.
Not to be black pilled but there isn't time for change any more. The demographics are already crossing the point of no return. Gen Z are more brown than white in most major areas.
 
He's a waste of your time and a self help guru of the internet era. Real change doesn't come from benzo addicts.

You'd be surprised how many people are influenced by outside forces. Not everyone is exactly like you. Otherwise, if that were the case, everyone would've dismissed woke shit on the first day. People fall into cults all the time. So, thinking Peterson doesn't have any impact is quite an ignorant stance I think.
 
You'd be surprised how many people are influenced by outside forces. Not everyone is exactly like you. Otherwise, if that were the case, everyone would've dismissed woke shit on the first day. People fall into cults all the time. So, thinking Peterson doesn't have any impact is quite an ignorant stance I think.
Peterson is a cult. He teaches young men not to form collectives to defend themselves against other hostile collectives.
 
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