Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[DumbDude43]

Euro is infested by them. It is impossible to cut off Germoney without blowing up at least 3-5 of it in land.

but the ones on land can simply be shut off by the countries they go through (poland, ukraine)
the big thing about nord stream was that they were direct connections, with no middle man in control that could interfere and take them hostage or demand transit fees

 

[WhiteNight]

You can watch a livestream of the Libertarian Party's Rage Against the War Machine event in DC here:

For the first several minutes, there were two Russian flags being waved a few feet behind the speaker. I don't see them anymore so maybe they were asked to stop.

Edit: Now I see one Russian flag, so they're clearly tolerated.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

but the ones on land can simply be shut off by the countries they go through (poland, ukraine)

Yeah, and that one in sea can be smashed by anybody with boat and some explosives.

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Do anybody see this men?
He didn't show up from friday. No signs of potatoduce since meeting with Putin.

Probably he is just trollin and rollin, but you know - this is ruzzia. Who knows.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Yeah, and that one in sea can be smashed by anybody with boat and some explosives.

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Do anybody see this men? View attachment 4577869
He didn't show up from friday. No signs of potatoduce since meeting with Putin.

Probably he is just trollin and rollin, but you know - this is ruzzia. Who knows.

He's still pealing potatoes.

 

[Haint]

This is the thread where I can shit talk slavic happa vodka niggers?

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

This is the thread where I can shit talk slavic happa(?) vodka niggers?

Only if there's something else to laugh at, like this:

The 92nd brigade strikes a concentration of Russian infantry, drone fire-correction made by artillery reconnaissance company "Achilles".
Location: Kuzemivka (Куземівка), Luhansk Oblast at 49.519019, 37.982508

Google Map link


Same location, different day:

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

So a week or two back in the A&N thread I talked about the Rage Against The War Machine rally, which is really just a Pro-Russian rally, and how Scott Ritter was in hot water, he has since been forced to leave.

But it is going on right now, at the Lincoln memorial, and the twitter account has posted this.

So just by rough estimates, and giving some leeway with out of frame people, they're gonna be lucky to have more than 200 people actually show up for a rally in the middle of D.C.

 

[AgendaPoster]

You can watch a livestream of the Libertarian Party's Rage Against the War Machine event in DC here:

For the first several minutes, there were two Russian flags being waved a few feet behind the speaker. I don't see them anymore so maybe they were asked to stop.

Edit: Now I see one Russian flag, so they're clearly tolerated.

Epic sperg stream .
I fucking hate stupid people lmao.
Oh, to not forget, that goes double for lolberts and shitlibs.

"Everyone I dislike is a fed! Patriot Front are feds, cause smartwatches! Nazis with nazi flag are feds, cause, ummm, Nazis were leftists! Russian flag dudes are feds, cause, ummm, we are to be discreet about out implicit pro-vatnik positions!"

 

[Aidan]

Yeah, and that one in sea can be smashed by anybody with boat and some explosives.

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Do anybody see this men? View attachment 4577869
He didn't show up from friday. No signs of potatoduce since meeting with Putin.

Probably he is just trollin and rollin, but you know - this is ruzzia. Who knows.

He finally became a colonel and is in Ukraine right now.

Spoiler: Context

 

[No. 7 cat]

So a week or two back in the A&N thread I talked about the Rage Against The War Machine rally, which is really just a Pro-Russian rally, and how Scott Ritter was in hot water, he has since been forced to leave.

But it is going on right now, at the Lincoln memorial, and the twitter account has posted this.
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So just by rough estimates, and giving some leeway with out of frame people, they're gonna be lucky to have more than 200 people actually show up for a rally in the middle of D.C.

So a handful of terminally online or locally noisy tankie activists. Complete and utter fail. The GOP examples like (alleged) groomer Gaetz or the lewd MTG are probably not helping the GOP. Putin is only popular only among weirdos and the more unreflective Russians.

 

[AgendaPoster]

A more unusual perspective on the war in this article below.
We've been used to seeing a large majority of what was the alt-right and other modern right wing groups almost completely fall in line with Russia and virulently promote its narratives. Examples too numerous to list, just some examples: The Right Stuff/NJP, Nick Fuentes and AF, Gariepy and Gonzalo Lira, DailyStormer and Andrew Anglin. Their hatred of Ukrainians daring to oppose Russia is almost omnipresent, it's really hard to find Western right leaning communities that actually oppose Russia's expansionism.
There were some who didn't really buy this though, like Counter Currents and Greg Johnson, who was always a more unusual figure in the AR, as a homosexual academic.
The article still falls into some of the expected narratives, but for those bored of the mainstream propaganda, it might be a decent read. The comments are interesting too - there are some supporting Russia, and some that got convinced that Ukraine's position is "morally superior".
Archive

 

[LeChampion1992]

I would believe the USA destroyed the Nordstream pipeline. It makes way more sense that America destroyed it rather then Russia. Russia's entire leverage over Germany relied on them being able to maintain the gas flow. Russia blowing up the pipeline would make no sense as it would be like cutting off their nose to spite the face.

Conversely, the USA had every incentive to destroy Nordstream. The US had been bitching about Germanies cozy relationship with Russia for years prior to Trump getting up in front of the UN and calling the Germans retards for relying on Russia for Gas. Destroying Nord Stream accomplished two things. It cut the cord between the EU and Russia, and also forced them into a position where they had to pick a side. Do they call out the Americans for doing it, or do they fall in line.

They fell in line.

I mean the US has more influence on Europe in economic and security policy then the Russians do. Not only that but the rest of Europe tends to feel comfortable when the Russians are kept east and the Germans are kept in their place.

A more unusual perspective on the war in this article below.
We've been used to seeing a large majority of what was the alt-right and other modern right wing groups almost completely fall in line with Russia and virulently promote its narratives. Examples too numerous to list, just some examples: The Right Stuff/NJP, Nick Fuentes and AF, Gariepy and Gonzalo Lira, DailyStormer and Andrew Anglin. Their hatred of Ukrainians daring to oppose Russia is almost omnipresent, it's really hard to find Western right leaning communities that actually oppose Russia's expansionism.

Gonzalo lira aka CRP wrongly thought the Russians were better then the west and would magically win. He also has surrounded himself in a echo chamber of pro Russia Nova Russia apologists who are Global homo is evil.
The other groups like the NJP/AF/Nick Fuentes are taking the 180 position from the people on the mainstream as a way to say. "I support the opposite of the current thing".
It's very much the Americas government screwed us so we should support Russian expansionism even though Russia is a cross between Germany in hate speech laws and worse then America when it comes to drug and alcohol abuse/Hiv rates.

There were some who didn't really buy this though, like Counter Currents and Greg Johnson, who was always a more unusual figure in the AR, as a homosexual academic.
The article still falls into some of the expected narratives, but for those bored of the mainstream propaganda, it might be a decent read. The comments are interesting too - there are some supporting Russia, and some that got convinced that Ukraine's position is "morally superior".
Archive
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If you talk to the actual European far right the people in Europe who are Austrian painter sympathizers and ultra nationalists they tend to be anti Russian more then they're anti Jew. For them they see the war as a defense of the white european stock against the Eurasian horde in some regards this is the race war the far right wanted and best thing is if they win they get their own defacto ethnostate.

So a handful of terminally online or locally noisy tankie activists. Complete and utter fail. The GOP examples like (alleged) groomer Gaetz or the lewd MTG are probably not helping the GOP. Putin is only popular only among weirdos and the more unreflective Russians.

The fringes of the GOP is only taking a pro Russia stance because the neo-cons have essentially thrown in their lot with the left on every culture war issue. So even if you have lefties argue for free chemical castration and fetish porn to any teen that wants it the neo-cons would do some shuffling saying "I think homophobia,racism, transphobia are unamerican."

It's rather frustrating as being on the far right and feeling sympathetic but getting frustrated by righties taking the bait.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Dorin Recean (PM of Moldova, the new one) stated that ruzzkie must leave Transnistria - twitter is full of soaring ruzzkies and they ballsuckers. Also Girkhin is crying about how (according to his soathing, so not so sure) some elite forces of Ukraine are moved to the Moldavian border. This would make sense, Transnistria controls border between Moldova and Ukraine (and this border is impossible to held) and the contact line with Moldovia forces is mostly aside river Dniester (in Moldova this river is going through country).

Boy, I wish this soathing is based on reality, not like that stupid cry about Lithuania invading Belarus from this week. Geting rid of Transnistria will change the part of Europe in a better place.

Also PM said some smart words: that neutrality of Moldova (mMoldova is neutral) is not protecting them from invasion of ruzzia in any part. So, I hope, Moldovawill change their policy and will join NATO.

 

[Patroc]

There's a lot about the DC protest to cover.
Here's a Twitter thread about it. Thread / Archive.

Matthew Heimbach and Shandon Simpson have created a new group called 'Patriotic Socialist Front' some retarded 'Maga-Communism' tankie ideology.

Shandon's YouTube channel that the group uses. YouTube / Archive .
His live stream of the event https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7sZIDiei4. (I tried to download it but can't / I'm on mobile)

The telegram --> https://t.me/Patriotic_Socialist_Front
Website --> https://www.patsocfront.org/ / Archive

This video is really funny lol

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

There's a third: poor maintenance. Russia spent several weeks claiming that they were having difficulty with the pumping stations at their end. At the time everyone just assumed it was a convenient lie to keep the gas cut off, as a negotiating tactic, but it could have been a genuine, serious problem that they were trying to downplay as just a minor pumping station issue. If it were sabotage, I'd lean toward Russia carrying it out as a (very successful) psyop, but I'd rather believe it was a combo of bad timing and circumstances beyond anyone's control.

tfw they accidentally Chernobyl'd their pipeline now the world is having an international whodunit

It's rather frustrating as being on the far right and feeling sympathetic but getting frustrated by righties taking the bait.

This.
Same sentiment for the lib-right who are "ragin against da war macheen" rather than realizing we are literally seeing a war of one side using their guns to defend their land against autocratic bugmen hordes...

I will say what few I've seen from the far-left seems to be quietly seething in support of Russia under their breath while uttering the "both sides bad becoz US imperiulizm" while the mainstream center-left circle jerks about "yaaassss slayyyy queen zelenskie!" without realizing they are basically rooting for wignat banderites

 

[DumbDude43]

There's a third: poor maintenance. Russia spent several weeks claiming that they were having difficulty with the pumping stations at their end. At the time everyone just assumed it was a convenient lie to keep the gas cut off, as a negotiating tactic, but it could have been a genuine, serious problem that they were trying to downplay as just a minor pumping station issue. If it were sabotage, I'd lean toward Russia carrying it out as a (very successful) psyop, but I'd rather believe it was a combo of bad timing and circumstances beyond anyone's control.

the leak/break happened near sweden, very bery far away from the russian end of the pipeline. plus the timing is just way too suspicious for a random freak accident.

 

[teriyakiburns]

the leak/break happened near sweden, very bery far away from the russian end of the pipeline. plus the timing is just way too suspicious for a random freak accident.

Well, like I said when it happened, all Russia would have to do to sabotage it is to send a pig down the pipe with a bomb on board. Blowing up the pipe from the inside is orders of magnitude easier than whatever method Hersh proposed.

And yes, this could also be done from the other end, but it would require a lot of people to stay quiet if a pig was sent from the German end of the pipeline. Russia wouldn't have that issue.

But I will also add this: coincidences happen all the time. We just don't notice them, because they don't seem important to us.

 

[WhiteNight]

We've been used to seeing a large majority of what was the alt-right and other modern right wing groups almost completely fall in line with Russia and virulently promote its narratives. Examples too numerous to list, just some examples: The Right Stuff/NJP, Nick Fuentes and AF, Gariepy and Gonzalo Lira, DailyStormer and Andrew Anglin. Their hatred of Ukrainians daring to oppose Russia is almost omnipresent, it's really hard to find Western right leaning communities that actually oppose Russia's expansionism.

There's a bit of horseshoe here, as tankies are lining up for Russia too, or at least are useful idiots. In the latter category I'd put Roger Waters, who Russia invited to speak at the UNSC to say Russia was provoked by Ukraine's existence.

But yes like many posters here I loosely identify with the "dissident right" or whatever it's called now, and it's been supremely disappointing how many of them are simping for a greedy murderous autocrat seeking to annihilate a native European culture and killing tens of thousands of its people.

So it's always refreshing when someone on the right does not fall into that vortex. That includes commentators such as Greg Johnson and politicians such as Giorgia Meloni.

Gonzalo lira aka CRP wrongly thought the Russians were better then the west and would magically win. He also has surrounded himself in a echo chamber of pro Russia Nova Russia apologists who are Global homo is evil.
The other groups like the NJP/AF/Nick Fuentes are taking the 180 position from the people on the mainstream as a way to say. "I support the opposite of the current thing".

I don't really follow any of these people, but my impression is that many in the alt-right see Putin as a strong, traditionalist leader defending his culture, in contrast to mealy-mouthed, effeminate democratic politicians who are selling out our civilization. And Putin is so baste coz he hates troons!

Partly it's a failure to appreciate scale. Yes, western countries have problems, but we really don't want to trade ours for Russia's. But also it's bizarre projection believing that Putin somehow cares about "western civilization" rather than his oil wealth, ego, and power. And there's a reason modern nations chose rule by bickering and checked politicians rather than unaccountable dictators.

 

[Snekposter]

It's rather frustrating as being on the far right and feeling sympathetic but getting frustrated by righties taking the bait.

I'm with you there. Russia is not our friend, nor our ally against globohomo since they're just fine with it crippling us so long as it doesn't cripple them. I mean, that's why the KGB started the whole ball rolling in the first place!

 

[teriyakiburns]

And Putin is so baste coz he hates troons!

Which makes his tankie support all the more ironic, given they seem to believe the troons will be the vanguard of the revolution.