Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Distraught Knuckles]

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[EverlyB]

Link

 

[AfghanBlue]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

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usual braggadocios boreshit: mainly to say- wtf is up with his....head/ face here?
Real woll smoth eyes; usually its the mouth- variety is the spice of life!

EDIT- lmfao ohh its just cos he's not wearing ten ton o slap. Who'd have thought it was doing quite such heavy lifting?
I wonder did he take a travel companion to take his 'candids'..?
a friend perhaps...or maybe...a PA

Next, a real treat tbh

oh no tubey, lmao, oh no really boy you're not going to serve it that easily for us are you? give us a bit of sport, man

you said it, large lad.


The Tube gets involved with another of this guys threads..


Just....groan. Fucking idiot, if you knew anything abut EDs / psychiatry in general you would know that YES anorexics do often deliberately seek to annul their periods and breast dev, and NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MANLY VALID DOODS, KINGS.

Oh contraire Oliver!
A woman with a four foot height'n'girth head, or a man with a foot foot tall...man- is rather hard to miss.

(Poor fucking girl. Oh well, another one for the chopper.. )

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

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usual braggadocios boreshit: mainly to say- wtf is up with his....head/ face here?
Real woll smoth eyes; usually its the mouth- variety is the spice of life!

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oh no tubey, lmao, oh no really boy you're not going to serve is that easily for us are you?
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you said it, large lad.


The Tube gets involved with another of this guys threads..
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Just....groan. Fucking idiot, if you knew anything abut EDs / psychiatry in general you would know that YES anorexics do often deliberately annul their periods and NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MANLY VALID DOODS, KINGS.
Poor fucking girl. Oh well, another one for the chopper.

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Oh contraire Oliver!
A woman with a four foot height'n'girth head, or a man with a foot foot tall...man- is rather hard to miss.

There are better looking troon actors than Oliver. There is no reason to chose him. But narcs are always overestimating their talent, appeal and looks.

 

[ghjoigcbn]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

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usual braggadocios boreshit: mainly to say- wtf is up with his....head/ face here?
Real woll smoth eyes; usually its the mouth- variety is the spice of life!

EDIT- lmfao ohh its just cos he's not wearing ten ton o slap. Who'd have thought it was doing quite such heavy lifting?
I wonder did he take a travel companion to take his 'candids'..?
a friend perhaps...or maybe...a PA

Next, a real treat tbh
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oh no tubey, lmao, oh no really boy you're not going to serve it that easily for us are you? give us a bit of sport, man
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you said it, large lad.


The Tube gets involved with another of this guys threads..
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Just....groan. Fucking idiot, if you knew anything abut EDs / psychiatry in general you would know that YES anorexics do often deliberately seek to annul their periods and breast dev, and NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MANLY VALID DOODS, KINGS.
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Oh contraire Oliver!
A woman with a four foot height'n'girth head, or a man with a foot foot tall...man- is rather hard to miss.

(Poor fucking girl. Oh well, another one for the chopper.. )

He just looks like a dude with over plucked brows and long hair. So much for FFS.

And wow, Im sure those troons loved posing with him on his red carpet! Next to him their skulls look a reasonable size and they look very passing in comparison.

 

[admiral]

Lmao is that our boy playing Pontius Pilate in a Passion play before the cenotaph in March 2018? I think it just might be.

 

[AssignedEva]

I look forward to the caved-in-forehead arc.

I actually came to post this, which was retweeted by Susie Green (the ex-head of Mermaids, now employed by hormone pill mill GenderGP).
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@PhilosophyTube, tweet 1626553529136553987 (archive)


Yes, don't listen to one of the two Newsnight journalists who helped publicise the story of a massive medical experiment on vulnerable children, listen to some bloke in makeup repeat things you already agree with.

Hannah Barnes's “previous work … has been uncritically cis-centric“ what does that even mean?

The thing is the book isn't "hearing from a cis journalist". She went out of her way to interview former patients, including patients who were happy with the treatment they had received.

Choob's experience of the NHS is also irrelevant to the Tavistock Centre. The Tavistock Centre only treated children, so Choob has no insight into that, having only liased with adult services. He never went on puberty blockers and was left with no follow up treatments only to develop osteoporosis. He did not get referred by CAMHS as a severely mentally ill child with OCPD who only left his bedroom to shower five times a day, and is now living as a gay man despite doctors repeatedly trying to shove hormones down his throat instead of doing the talk therapy they were provisioned for, who desisted when his mother intervened and got him private treatment which revealed he was suffering from severe homophobic bullying and getting groomed into being trans on tumblr. He's not an 11 year old girl who was cajoled into taking lupron by therapists who insisted her desire to dress androgynously but not take HRT was oppositional defiance, and who now has no sex drive whatsoever and got out by refusing to attend any more endocrinologist appointments.

He is also not a medical professional who noticed the Tavistock went from counselling children with gender issues and highlighting that these are often linked to depression, abuse and trauma (and only 5% of children treated would go on to transition), coaching families to "tolerate uncertainty", to turning into a clinic that was just a hormone referral factory couched in ideology and staffed by an unusually high number of juniors.

Ollie decided he was trans and went to a doctor to get HRT. He wants to have the NHS offer him any treatment he wants. He has paid for plastic surgery to this end and makes money from being loudly trans. He never claimed to have dysphoria and had no gender feels until his mid twenties. On that basis he's utterly unqualified to talk about it and instead people should read this well researched book by a respected journalist who has won awards (instead of a hack who cites Contrapoints video essays).

 

[Geranium]

On that basis he's utterly unqualified to talk about it and instead people should read this well researched book by a respected journalist who has won awards (instead of a hack who cites Contrapoints video essays).

This is in the Observer review, and seems almost as if it was written for Choob:

Such a book cannot easily be dismissed. To do so, a person would not only have to be wilfully ignorant, they would also – to use the popular language of the day – need to be appallingly unkind. This is the story of the hurt caused to potentially hundreds of children since 2011, and perhaps before that. To shrug in the face of that story – to refuse to listen to the young transgender people whose treatment caused, among other things, severe depression, sexual dysfunction, osteoporosis and stunted growth, and whose many other problems were simply ignored – requires a callousness that would be far beyond my imagination were it not for the fact that, thanks to social media, I already know such stony-heartedness to be out there.

Time to Think by Hannah Barnes review – what went wrong at Gids? | Society books | The Guardian (archive)

(I'll be rounding up reviews of Hannah Barnes's book in the tranny news megathread shortly.)

 

[Swimminglanes]

Jolyon Maugham providing a "diagnosis" on Twitter based on a few minutes conversation with the friend of a parent.

He's a sick bastard groomer.

 

[Kars den Karb]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

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usual braggadocios boreshit: mainly to say- wtf is up with his....head/ face here?
Real woll smoth eyes; usually its the mouth- variety is the spice of life!

EDIT- lmfao ohh its just cos he's not wearing ten ton o slap. Who'd have thought it was doing quite such heavy lifting?
I wonder did he take a travel companion to take his 'candids'..?
a friend perhaps...or maybe...a PA

Next, a real treat tbh
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oh no tubey, lmao, oh no really boy you're not going to serve it that easily for us are you? give us a bit of sport, man
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you said it, large lad.


The Tube gets involved with another of this guys threads..
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Just....groan. Fucking idiot, if you knew anything abut EDs / psychiatry in general you would know that YES anorexics do often deliberately seek to annul their periods and breast dev, and NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MANLY VALID DOODS, KINGS.
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"Every expert agrees" is always the go-to argument for these people. This isn't used in the traditional sense of appeal to authority because it's intended to bludgeon people into submission more than sway their thinking. "The experts have spoken, all discussion is moot. Your input is not required for your child's healthcare."

Choob's rhetoric that "cis" is not normal is an even farther step into farce. You are never going to get mentally healthy people to pathologize normalcy. I wonder if he will join his brethren on the cutting edge of trans discourse and demand the right to snog unwilling men and/or lesbians.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

The thing is the book isn't "hearing from a cis journalist". She went out of her way to interview former patients, including patients who were happy with the treatment they had received.

Choob's experience of the NHS is also irrelevant to the Tavistock Centre. The Tavistock Centre only treated children, so Choob has no insight into that, having only liased with adult services. He never went on puberty blockers and was left with no follow up treatments only to develop osteoporosis. He did not get referred by CAMHS as a severely mentally ill child with OCPD who only left his bedroom to shower five times a day, and is now living as a gay man despite doctors repeatedly trying to shove hormones down his throat instead of doing the talk therapy they were provisioned for, who desisted when his mother intervened and got him private treatment which revealed he was suffering from severe homophobic bullying and getting groomed into being trans on tumblr. He's not an 11 year old girl who was cajoled into taking lupron by therapists who insisted her desire to dress androgynously but not take HRT was oppositional defiance, and who now has no sex drive whatsoever and got out by refusing to attend any more endocrinologist appointments.

He is also not a medical professional who noticed the Tavistock went from counselling children with gender issues and highlighting that these are often linked to depression, abuse and trauma (and only 5% of children treated would go on to transition), coaching families to "tolerate uncertainty", to turning into a clinic that was just a hormone referral factory couched in ideology and staffed by an unusually high number of juniors.

Ollie decided he was trans and went to a doctor to get HRT. He wants to have the NHS offer him any treatment he wants. He has paid for plastic surgery to this end and makes money from being loudly trans. He never claimed to have dysphoria and had no gender feels until his mid twenties. On that basis he's utterly unqualified to talk about it and instead people should read this well researched book by a respected journalist who has won awards (instead of a hack who cites Contrapoints video essays).

See this is what I read this thread for, haha, damn. I almost wish that Chube would interact with criticism like this and attempt a good faith response.

"Every expert agrees" is always the go-to argument for these people. This isn't used in the traditional sense of appeal to authority because it's intended to bludgeon people into submission more than sway their thinking. "The experts have spoken, all discussion is moot. Your input is not required for your child's healthcare."

Choob's rhetoric that "cis" is not normal is an even farther step into farce. You are never going to get mentally healthy people to pathologize normalcy. I wonder if he will join his brethren on the cutting edge of trans discourse and demand the right to snog unwilling men and/or lesbians.

Also every expert absolutely does not agree, there's a reason that previously overwhelmingly pro-trans countries like the Netherlands, Sweden and Finland have actually considerably changed their official medical approaches from their National Health Services in recent years.

 

[Real Centaur]

Also every expert absolutely does not agree, there's a reason that previously overwhelmingly pro-trans countries like the Netherlands, Sweden and Finland have actually considerably changed their official medical approaches from their National Health Services in recent years.

Unfortunately Finland just recently passed a law allowing people to change their legal gender based on nothing but self-declaration. (I know this is totally off topic here, I just thought it was a particularly hideous law.)

 

[AfghanBlue]

got excited for a second there, chubletes



(lmfao at Pontius Tube - he really is just a fucking singularly unattractive man, isnt he?)

Spoiler: Never forget

I mean, just look at two actors faces beside his, comparatively.

Loo at this, this is Olly. Never forget it. This is the fat fail male, now larping as a huge skulled terrifying to behold, trans woman- (thats larping as trans woman, not larping as woman.)

 

[admiral]

(lmfao at Pontius Tube - he really is just a fucking singularly unattractive man, isnt he?)

The funny thing is that I wasn't even looking for olly-related stuff, I came across the picture being used as a file photo on a completely unrelated newsweek article about some archaeological find in the West Bank. I couldn't quite believe it so I went back to his videos from the same era to check that it really is him and I'm not just going mad and seeing things, but indeed in March-April 2018 he had the same goatee and hairdo.

The pictures really do show how massive Olly's skull is. Standing next to twinky little finnster was bad enough, but here he is with a bunch of normal-sized men and he still looks like he's recovering from several bee stings. He's also got that unfortunate slightly doughy northern complexion which causes your face to turn pink at the very slightest excitement.

 

[Excited Eraser]

Presented without comment.

 

[DDR Yoga]

My dad likes watching old wild west films. I'd love to see the confusion on his face if he ever flicked the channel over to find cowboys Jerome and Dontarius talking to Clint Eastwood in a dress.

 

[Dromedary]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

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usual braggadocios boreshit: mainly to say- wtf is up with his....head/ face here?
Real woll smoth eyes; usually its the mouth- variety is the spice of life!

EDIT- lmfao ohh its just cos he's not wearing ten ton o slap. Who'd have thought it was doing quite such heavy lifting?
I wonder did he take a travel companion to take his 'candids'..?
a friend perhaps...or maybe...a PA

Next, a real treat tbh
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oh no tubey, lmao, oh no really boy you're not going to serve it that easily for us are you? give us a bit of sport, man
View attachment 4582186
you said it, large lad.


The Tube gets involved with another of this guys threads..
View attachment 4582189

Just....groan. Fucking idiot, if you knew anything abut EDs / psychiatry in general you would know that YES anorexics do often deliberately seek to annul their periods and breast dev, and NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MANLY VALID DOODS, KINGS.
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Oh contraire Oliver!
A woman with a four foot height'n'girth head, or a man with a foot foot tall...man- is rather hard to miss.

(Poor fucking girl. Oh well, another one for the chopper.. )

Look at that big-ass doughy arm. The slouch, the gigantic feet.

These fuckers. Chemically castrating kids isn't "medical care", it's horrific experimentation on gender-nonconforming or autistic kids. It's really creepy how this grotesque cult is fixated on kids and wants to claim other people's children as their own. For medical experimentation. This shit needs to be criminalized everywhere. It's just child abuse.

 

[AfghanBlue]

View attachment 4592072Look at that big-ass doughy arm. The slouch, the gigantic feet.
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These fuckers. Chemically castrating kids isn't "medical care", it's horrific experimentation on gender-nonconforming or autistic kids. It's really creepy how this grotesque cult is fixated on kids and wants to claim other people's children as their own. For medical experimentation. This shit needs to be criminalized everywhere. It's just child abuse.

is that Claire that that picture with him?
Kinda looks like it- also weird to be like, holding his moob ventilation gash if not.. and someone was taking boring pictures of him in cafes..

 

[Aelfled]

He wishes he was a He-She-Hulk version of Michelle Dockery, but alas, he's actually Haley Joel Osment.

Although HJO's genuine smile still makes him preferable to look at than Olly's smarm AGP smirk.

 

[The Jackal]

Tubey coming with the goods again.

These two wish they were the ugliest women in the world. In reality they'll only ever be men in dresses.

He never claimed to have dysphoria and had no gender feels until his mid twenties.

In fact he's stated categorically on at least one occasion that he doesn't have gender dysphoria and on at least one other (I believe) that dysphoria doesn't exist/isn't an important requirement for diagnosing troonism.

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Christ, what a wooden delivery. Real amateur hour stuff. On the other hand, he looks much better here than he normally does - the costume, make-up and lighting departments are earning their keep.

The pictures really do show how massive Olly's skull is.

So, I don't think the problem is actually the size of his skull (though it is big) or not just that, I think it's more a question of proportion. His features are sort of cramped together in the centre of his face, and he has these massive, buttock-like, pink cheeks that take up about 40% of the facial surface area. Another 30% or so is taken up by his forehead and chin. The result is very peculiar.

He does seem to have lost weight since 'coming out' and I think that's helped (of course now he other problems to worry about regarding his appearance).

I also think the size of his head may contribute to the reason so many people claim surprise at his stature. He doesn't look tall because his head is disproportionately large:



When you look at him in isolation, you subconsciously assume a normal-sized head, which makes his body appear small. If I'd seen this picture without knowing who Olly is, I'd have thought he was actually a short man because he has the same bodily proportions as a short man has. Anyone else get what I mean?

EDIT (more autism): On reflection I think his disgusting little goatee also enhanced the squashed-features effect, and so accentuated his plump jowls even more. One of the few ways I think his appearance has improved since the beginning of the Abigail phase is the absence of the goatee.