Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Tard Whisperer]

Here's some recent mastectomies from transbucket:

Spoiler: NSFW

Note the self-harm scars

Butcher: Dr. Van loenen, Thea
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: CayCay_


"nipples when hard"

"nipples when soft"

Spoiler: more pics

Butcher: Dr. Drew, Phillip j
Cost: 7,210
Complications: Wound separation, suture spitting
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Four Stars
Submitter: userr1273


"I'm a year post op and it is the biggest regret of my life."

Butcher: Dr. Mcintyre, Joyce
Complications: nipple rejection due to improper post surgery dressing by hospital, uneven incisions, multiple dog ears, Extra tissue, Wants revision
Post-op Sensation: One Star
Post-op Satisfaction: One Star
Submitter: Donotgotoumassmemorial

I beg you not to go with this doctor. She was incredibly antagonistic to me based on my identities. She broke ADA law and disregarded every request I had for my surgery even though pre surgery She told me it was all possible. I have dog ears, puckering, excess tissue that was left, uneven incisions, nipples that look awful next to one another because they did not give me any foam to put between my dressing and the post off binder pulled the top of my nipple off 3 days post surgery. Joyce has taken no accountability for her actions. I'm a year post op and it is the biggest regret of my life. Not to mention She body shamed me after I showed her images of top surgery results I liked. She laughed and said "well I can't make you muscular." UMass Memorial and the patient advocates were completely unhelpful and no one has done anything. She ruined my relationship with my body and I can only hope to save someone else from that.

Butcher: Dr. Miles, Wandra
Complications: blood clot, Wants revision
Post-op Sensation: Five Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: One Star
Submitter: Dispatch

It was a free surgery through the state but my nipples are crooked and my scar is narld looking. In the end it was worth it but, to feel myself I have not found that yet.

Butcher: Dr. Jordan, Sumanas
Post-op Sensation: Five Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: basaltic

... should these be spoilered?

 

[Hepativore]

Here's some recent mastectomies from transbucket:

Note the self-harm scars
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Butcher: Dr. Van loenen, Thea
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: CayCay_

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"nipples when hard"
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"nipples when soft"
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Spoiler: more pics

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Butcher: Dr. Drew, Phillip j
Cost: 7,210
Complications: Wound separation, suture spitting
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Four Stars
Submitter: userr1273
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"I'm a year post op and it is the biggest regret of my life."
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Butcher: Dr. Mcintyre, Joyce
Complications: nipple rejection due to improper post surgery dressing by hospital, uneven incisions, multiple dog ears, Extra tissue, Wants revision
Post-op Sensation: One Star
Post-op Satisfaction: One Star
Submitter: Donotgotoumassmemorial


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Butcher: Dr. Miles, Wandra
Complications: blood clot, Wants revision
Post-op Sensation: Five Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: One Star
Submitter: Dispatch


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Butcher: Dr. Jordan, Sumanas
Post-op Sensation: Five Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: basaltic

... should these be spoilered?

Looking at how these women have been carved up and then crudely sewn back together, I would not be surprised if some of them also have permanent damage to their pectoral muscles as well.

The worst one of the bunch is the black girl as it looks like her sutures have been done unevenly, and she is developing dermal fibrotic adhesions around the suture scars.

The feminine flourishes such as the sea turtle on her cell phone case and the ring on a necklace drive the point home that many of these FTMs have many feminine proclivities.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

There are good reasons for not removing a healthy uterus. Now I’m not talking about women with severe endo, or women with a genuine medical reason at all but:
1. Women do often change their minds and sue and they tend to win.
2. Strong wanting to mutilate the self is associated with self harm behaviours of various personality disorders and abuse (even more ironic that surgeons then go ahead in these women.)
3. Hysterectomy young leads to medical issues. Instant menopause if ovaries are removed. If only the uterus is removed there is still a higher risk of dementia, various illnesses and prolapse.
All these reasons are strongly applied to regular women, and there’s a magic button that makes all these issues not relevant if you mention being trans. It’s madness

It's paternalism and control*, pure and simple. 95% "women are crazy and stupid and can't possibly be trusted with this decision plus men should be deciding, and a 5% corrective hangover from when forcible/unconsented-to sterilization was a thing (which disproportionately impacted women of color and poor women; in contrast to policies/laws on voluntary hysterectomies for sterilization, which created barriers disproportionately negatively impacting middle-class white women).

Spoiler: fax only if you want them

18 states allow healthcare providers to refuse to perform voluntary hysterectomies/sterilization. Some states still have spousal/male consent requirements as law (Iowa just ditched it in 2022), and anecdotal stories show up now and then of individual providers or systems requiring husband/ male consent or other significant barriers and influence against the procedure.

As late as 5 years about the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists was still having to announce/advocaye a position that mental health checks should not automatically he ordered for women wanting a hysterectomy. (And Medicaid requires a specific consent form and a minimum 30-day waiting period, so if you want it while you're already in having a baby, better get the paperwork and other hoops the provider adds done early and hope you don't go into premature labor. And surprise, Medicaid people whose requests go "unfulfilled" are much more likely to get pregnant again in a year than those who never even requested it.

Concern over lawsuits is not really a factor and is mitigated by information requirements, sterilization consultation practices (including all alternatives), and signed acknowledgements.

I'm aware hystos of a healthy uterus are bad, but isnt the alternative permanent birth method is tubal litigation? The standard for men is vasectomies, which doesn't involve removing a healthy organ, and not castration, which does. My question to both of you is why tubal litigation isn't as popular or as wanted as hystos (I know it's not 100% effective, but neither are vasectomies and castration still isn't the preferred method) and does the medical community push back against women wanting tubal litigation like they do for hystos?

 

[Hepativore]

I'm aware hystos of a healthy uterus are bad, but isnt the alternative permanent birth method is tubal litigation? The standard for men is vasectomies, which doesn't involve removing a healthy organ, and not castration, which does. My question to both of you is why tubal litigation isn't as popular or as wanted as hystos (I know it's not 100% effective, but neither are vasectomies and castration still isn't the preferred method) and does the medical community push back against women wanting tubal litigation like they do for hystos?

Slight power level, but many women do face a lot of resistance getting hysterectomies for things like endometriosis or other gynecological pathologies. My cousin had to fight like hell to get hers at 28 and she had chronic anemia and other issues related to endometriosis and fibroids for years and her physician had recommended it done since she was a teenager. A combination of idiotic insurance companies, in-network hospitals all being Catholic-run, and money, made it a years-long struggle.

The irony is that if she had been a FTM troon, she probably could have gotten it done instantly with no questions asked.

Anyway, unless you are a troon, hysterectomies are generally not something that is done as an elective procedure unless there is an underlying medical reason. It is major surgery, and as with any sort of complex surgical procedure, a lot of things can go wrong during the operation, and a total hysterectomy would cause the hormonal effects of premature menopause such as osteoporosis or vaginal atrophy. If one or both ovaries are spared, this could be prevented, but because the ovaries often get much of their blood supply from the uterine artery, there is still a 30% of ovarian failure even with a subtotal hysterectomy.

The only women that get rubber-stamped for hysterectomies are usually troons, as the troon-pass is an automatic greenlight for any elective procedure that the troon desires no matter how dangerous or idiotic it is.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I'm aware hystos of a healthy uterus are bad, but isnt the alternative permanent birth method is tubal litigation? The standard for men is vasectomies, which doesn't involve removing a healthy organ, and not castration, which does. My question to both of you is why tubal litigation isn't as popular or as wanted as hystos (I know it's not 100% effective, but neither are vasectomies and castration still isn't the preferred method) and does the medical community push back against women wanting tubal litigation like they do for hystos?

Tubal ligation is more invasive than a vasectomy due to where the female gonads are located in the body. That means more anesthesia needs, more risk of bleeding and infection, all the risks that go with an invasive surgical procedure versus a quick outpatient one. Also if a woman wants it reversed, that's another invasive procedure with all the risks, etc, and a pretty mediocre success rate. Doctors balk at doing tubals because IUDs and the implant have similar efficacy rates without being nearly as risky or irreversible.

That's the practical reason behind it which is really most of it for the majority of doctors, rather than some conspiratorial urge to keep women barefoot and pregnant. Risk and liability management.

 

[batteredpancakes]

d00leys has now progressed from deleting posts from ignorant, but well meaning TiFs to straight up mocking them.
Posted in r/phallocirclejerk her new subreddit she is now modding and presumably created.

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Breast tissue for phallo?

Hey guys, I just thought of something: why don't they just use breast tissue for phallo?

I know none of the doctors were able to think of this, because I am much smarter than them. I only ever have original thoughts, so I also know that nobody else was ever able to form this idea in their brains.

It just sucks that doctors are so much dumber than me. The future of phalloplasty would look a lot brighter if only they would ask for my input!

Does anyone know where I should take this idea? I'm also wondering when I can expect my medical degree and Nobel prize to arrive in my mailbox?

I already thought she was a POS but she somehow just sunk even lower.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I already thought she was a POS but she somehow just sunk even lower.

Lol no need to be mad about someone making a joke subreddit. It's a pretty funny joke, just like FtMs in general.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Lol no need to be mad about someone making a joke subreddit. It's a pretty funny joke, just like FtMs in general.

If you read through this thread she has a habit of being nasty toward other TiFs in her subreddit. Deleting posts and silencing anyone she doesn't like; while adding insulting mod response comments.

Making an entire subreddit just to make fun of others' questions when she made r/phallo specifically as a way for "TiFs to come together foster a nice community" is very shitty of her.

 

[Fapcop]

Lol no need to be mad about someone making a joke subreddit. It's a pretty funny joke, just like FtMs in general.

Nah, she’s a piece of shit.

Nevermind her lying to fellow confused women leading to unnecessary cosmetic surgeries.

Mocking your own (oh so persecuted!) community while at the same time posting hypocritically about “doing better” when it suits you is a real POS move.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

If you read through this thread she has a habit of being nasty toward other TiFs in her subreddit. Deleting posts and silencing anyone she doesn't like; while adding insulting mod response comments.

Making an entire subreddit just to make fun of others' questions when she made r/phallo specifically as a way for "TiFs to come together foster a nice community" is very shitty of her.

Sure it's shitty of her, but it's no different from any other power tripping reddit tranny janny. I think it's a good thing if trannies get to see their own kind acting like arrogant fuckwads in what should be their holiest of communities. Maybe the association could be a decent deterrent to some, paint me optimistic.

Anyway it's still a funny joke lol. I wonder if rotdogs were made out of jiggly fat mounds that were once tits, maybe they would actually bear slightly more resemblance to a real flaccid dick. No chance of ever achieving an "erection" of course but that's not saying much.

 

[batteredpancakes]

This post is gold.
TiF gets therapy at a trans organisation and decides to bring up her wish to pursue phalloplasty. Counselors, who are normally positive, start talking very negatively and inform her about high regret rates and butchery.
TiF dismisses everything as fear-mongering and goes to bitch about it on r/phallo
d00leys calls it all misinformation in the comments.

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Options for phallo in Belgium + opinion wanted

Hello everyone, I live in Belgium and am interested in pursuing phalloplasty. I would like to ask this community for advice and opinions about what my counsellor told me.

Last month, I brought the subject up to my "counsellor" (not sure how else to qualify them, they work for the trans and intersex organisation Genres Pluriels and I've been in touch with them for advice regarding transitioning) and they responded in a way that I didn't expect at all based on our previous sessions. Where they had been informative and supportive before, they were now acting strangely dismissive and negative.

They said that it was a risky decision (I'm aware of the risks and have been doing research), that most people regret having it and the only people who talk about it positively are the lucky few who had no complications, and it felt like they tried very hard to get me to accept meta instead, which I already know wouldn't suit me.
I didn't necessarily expect enthusiastic support, but they didn't offer any advice or any sources, and it feels a lot like fearmongering. They didn't try to prevent me from seeking it out (they don't have the authority to do so anyway) but I think they're really trying to discourage me.
Does all of this sound fishy and incorrect to anyone else?

When talking about surgeons who offered this procedure, they could only recommend me a team in Serbia that was considering no longer offering it due to "unsatisfactory results". They did not tell me the name of said team.
When I asked about the gender clinic at UZ Ghent, they told me that they were "butchers" (their exact words). I don't know a lot of fellow trans people in Belgium and given my counsellor's previous statements, I'm not inclined to believe them on this, so I wanted to ask: does anyone have experience with this team? If yes, would you recommend it? Would you recommend a different team in Europe instead?

Thank you for reading this far

Gold-tier quotes

• " ...they responded in a way that I didn't expect at all based on our previous sessions. Where they had been informative and supportive before, they were now acting strangely dismissive and negative."
• "...it felt like they tried very hard to get me to accept meta instead, which I already know wouldn't suit me."
• "They didn't try to prevent me from seeking it out (they don't have the authority to do so anyway) but I think they're really trying to discourage me."
• "When talking about surgeons who offered this procedure, they could only recommend me a team in Serbia that was considering no longer offering it due to "unsatisfactory results". They did not tell me the name of said team."
• "When I asked about the gender clinic at UZ Ghent, they told me that they were "butchers" (their exact words)."

d00leys response

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I'm glad to hear you're not taking the counselor too seriously, because you're absolutely right about this being fearmongering. Based on their misinformed comments, I would have to assume that they have something against surgery. Not sure why they're making this about them, since it is your body.

If anything, the Belgium team is considered to be one of the best in the world. And for good reason. The doctors are incredibly talented and thorough. Of course, complications can always happen, so I am sure they still have a ''high'' complication rate. Phalloplasty is an incredibly complex surgery, so it just comes with the territory. Especially if you get UL.

If I (Dutch) would have wanted to get phallo at the UZ Ghent, I would have had to wait a minimum of 5 years. For a long time they didn't even take Dutch patients at all, because there were simply too many of us pursuing surgery with them! As far as I know the waitlist is shorter for people from Belgium, but I al just trying to say: they are very very popular!

I had surgery with the VU (Amsterdam) and I am very happy. But if I were from Belgium, there would be no doubt in my mind to pursue surgery with UZ Ghent. You'd be in excellent hands.

The Serbia team is most likely dr Miro in Belgrade. They also generally have a good reputation, they mostly offer MLD though. Ghent, to my knowledge, typically does RFF, ALT, and possibly SCIP.

I hope you'll be able to sort this out. Is there any action you can take against this counselor? It's quite harmful that they're spreading nonsense like this. I'm glad to hear that you don't sound too affected from it, but if this is their job, I imagine they also speak to people who might actually believe them on this.

Best of luck!

 

[Fapcop]

Lol!

These dumb broads really deserve every complication they get!

“I don’t like what the experienced counselor says… Lemme ask total strangers from different countries on Reddit instead!”

 

[Charlie Delicious]

This one's hilarious!!

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10 days post-op AMA

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I had ALT February 9th with Dr. Crane which included UL and scrotoplasty. Previously had delayed flap and vaginectomy September 22, 22.
my thique bebe

Imagine having to walk around with that.

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that arm/phallus ratio.

If I had to rate any phallo in the thread as my "favorite" this would be it

It's so stupid lol

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Looking at how these women have been carved up and then crudely sewn back together, I would not be surprised if some of them also have permanent damage to their pectoral muscles as well.

The worst one of the bunch is the black girl as it looks like her sutures have been done unevenly, and she is developing dermal fibrotic adhesions around the suture scars.

The feminine flourishes such as the sea turtle on her cell phone case and the ring on a necklace drive the point home that many of these FTMs have many feminine proclivities.

The second and third white women have absolutely heinous scarring, too. I don't know how a person can make it through medical school AND plastic surgery residency without picking up at least a few suturing tips and tricks. No exaggeration: I've seen cleaner incisions and closures done by people who are more or less self-trained to perform surgery on laboratory rodents.

 

[Fapcop]

Since we’re on the topic of dumb broads making really dumb decisions, I got a good one for ya.

“I LOVE MASTURBATION, SHOULD I BURY MY CLITORIS AND ATTACH A ROLL OF FOREARM FLESH TO MY CROTCH?!”


Now, anyone thinking logically, would quickly realize that they should ask doctors. And not a phallo subreddit, where few of the many women who ruined their sexlife with a Phalloplasty would ever come.


D00ley, undoubtedly delighted to make another young pooner as miserable as she is, immediately pounces:



“Trust me bro it’s AMAZING! I have crazy orgasms after killing my clit!”

Another pooner joins in:



“Oh I have the time of my life shaking and pounding my sensationless piece of arm flesh! It’s mind blowing!”



MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

 

[GloriousScarf]

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The absolute flippancy of this.
She sounds like she's talking about what she wants to buy at the supermarket, I'll just get this, this and this and later if I need this, I'll go back and get it. Like it's all NBD, like she's not talking about mutilating her healthy body. But of course, we all know it won't be a walk in the park.

Here's a quick glance into her future:

I got testicular implants but the stitches burst but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 2nd revision but no regrets.
My urethral lengthening didn't work so well and I keep getting UTIs but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 3rd revision but no regrets.
I have necrosis on my phallo but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 4th revision but no regrets.
The wounds keep separating but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 5th revision but no regrets.
I can't cum anymore but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 6th revision but no regrets.
I can't find anyone to have sex with but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 7th revision but no regrets.
Normal antibiotics are no longer helping after my 50th UTI but no regrets.
It looks like I need a 8th revision but no regrets.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Pooners are also seeking the elusive female full body orgasm?

Say it ain't so.

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

I swear after seeing picture after picture here how can anyone be considered sane if they see pics of Phalloplasty's and Neovaginas and think they look real and they want one? That should be the final nail in the coffin that you're nuts and shouldn't be making medical decisions.

Mental mess voluntarily becomes a physical mess, then wonders why life is more of a mess than less. the stress.

^ gonna tentatively say the abdominal dick is the best looking result in my experience ITT. Even the worst results from stomach cock beat the worst results from the trad rotdog because the mangled arm is absolutely a haram deal breaker to me. Being a fat fuck gave her a better RESULT solely for this reason as well as the blood supply making it normal colored. I also don't see a urethra so good choice after all we have learned about piss milking ITT. (Still looks uncanny though.)

What's even more interesting is that out of all the creative synonyms we've conjured up over here, its the term "results" that'll shatter like glass the fragile ego of even a 20-year vet.

There are good reasons for not removing a healthy uterus. Now I’m not talking about women with severe endo, or women with a genuine medical reason at all but:
1. Women do often change their minds and sue and they tend to win.
2. Strong wanting to mutilate the self is associated with self harm behaviours of various personality disorders and abuse (even more ironic that surgeons then go ahead in these women.)
3. Hysterectomy young leads to medical issues. Instant menopause if ovaries are removed. If only the uterus is removed there is still a higher risk of dementia, various illnesses and prolapse.
All these reasons are strongly applied to regular women, and there’s a magic button that makes all these issues not relevant if you mention being trans. It’s madness

But muh dysphoria!

I'm aware of why docs would not want to remove the reproductive organs of a 20 year old, it's just as @LaughJoke2.0 says above; trans above all, nothing else matters, the magic words to override any modicum of concern. If a kid came home with a tattoo at 16, the parents would be very successful if they were to crusade to get the joint shut down, if they so chose. And here these butchers just operate out in the open with no standard of care for a very complicated, extremely traumatic and intrusive medical procedure. I know I am preaching to the choir, but it boggles the mind just how easily this has become normalized.

And a reasonable person saying, "Now, wait a minute..." gets shouted down.

 

[Vi0l3t]

 

[HERE YOU GO]

d00leys has now progressed from deleting posts from ignorant, but well meaning TiFs to straight up mocking them.
Posted in r/phallocirclejerk her new subreddit she is now modding and presumably created.
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Breast tissue for phallo?

Hey guys, I just thought of something: why don't they just use breast tissue for phallo?

I know none of the doctors were able to think of this, because I am much smarter than them. I only ever have original thoughts, so I also know that nobody else was ever able to form this idea in their brains.

It just sucks that doctors are so much dumber than me. The future of phalloplasty would look a lot brighter if only they would ask for my input!

Does anyone know where I should take this idea? I'm also wondering when I can expect my medical degree and Nobel prize to arrive in my mailbox?

I already thought she was a POS but she somehow just sunk even lower.

the new way she started talking is exactly how kiwifarms makes fun of her.
doolies is 100% super affected by kiwifarms talking about her. hahahahahaha

KF is like: oh yeah just cut your arm skin off no biggie, stupid fucking freak nigger idiot
now she's the pot calling the kettle black to other trannies like: oh yeah just cut your boob skin off, fucking idiot

doolies cut her arm skin off and calls it a dick but using breast skin that may already be getting removed for top surgery is stupid?
it was a good question for a fucked up idiot to ask but doolies is like UR A RETARD ABSOLUTE RETARD HAR HAR HAR.

they're already destroying their breasts and the boobs get really long pre op, it was a good question for a freak lol.
they already don't ask enough questions, this one actually asks something and they're called a retard by none other than doolies.