Law ‘Time for U.S. Lawmakers to Discuss Pirate Site Blocking’


The CreativeFuture coalition, which represents companies and individuals in the film, TV, music, and publishing industries, wants pirate site blocking put back on the political agenda. CEO Ruth Vitale finds it incomprehensible that an anti-piracy measure commonplace in other Western democracies is unavailable in the United States.

Over the years, copyright holders have tried a multitude of measures to curb online piracy, with varying levels of success.

Site blocking has emerged as one of the preferred solutions. While blocking measures are not bulletproof, the general idea is that they pose a large enough hurdle for casual pirates to choose legal options instead.

The blocking approach was very controversial at the start of the last decade, particularly in the U.S., but elsewhere it’s increasingly being normalized. Dozens of countries have legal or procedural options to request ISP blockades, which currently block in excess of 20,000 sites around the world.

The Star-Spangled Elephant​

American entertainment companies are the driving force behind most pro-blocking campaigns, which currently span all inhabited continents. This can be seen as a great achievement but there’s a star-spangled elephant that’s rarely brought up in site-blocking discussions; the lack of pirate site blocking in the U.S.

This isn’t a minor oversight as the United States actually harbors many millions of online pirates, more than any other country in the world. At the same time, however, the U.S. was also where the first major site-blocking legislation push failed more than a decade ago, following fierce protests from the public.

In recent years major rightsholders have slowly started to put the issue back on the political agenda. This week, CreativeFuture CEO Ruth Vitale wrote an op-ed for The Hill, calling for action.

CreativeFuture is an organization that represents the interests of over 500 copyright-reliant companies, as well as 300,000 individuals who work in the creative industries. The group is a fierce proponent of stricter copyright legislation including site blocking.

“Despite the long history of innovation in our creative communities, the U.S. is somehow lacking a commonsense and extremely effective anti-piracy tool: site blocking. And we need it now more than ever,” Vitale writes.

According to Vitale, it is “incomprehensible” that the U.S. sits on the sidelines while other countries are taking these “commonsense measures”.

No-Fault Injunctions​

Technically, U.S. courts can already order intermediaries to block sites, and that has happened in the past. However, the text of the law is not entirely clear on whether ISPs have to be held liable or not. This makes it a complicated legal issue.

Ideally, rightsholders would like to change the legal framework in the United States to allow for these orders on home turf. Concrete proposals are yet to be formed but according to Vitale, it’s clear that site-blocking schemes work.

With proper judicial oversight, courts should be able to require Internet providers to block foreign pirate sites, without holding the intermediaries liable.

“Such site blocking has proven to be an effective remedy against piracy in the more than 40 countries that have implemented court-adjudicated site blocking — including western democracies like Canada and the UK,” Vitale notes.

Western Democracy-Approved​

The earlier “SOPA” site-blocking legislation became stranded after massive public protests were supported by tech giants including Google and Wikipedia. The main fear was that blocking would eventually lead to over-blocking and other problems affecting core internet infrastructure.

According to Vitale, those fears were overblown and unproven. There have been few issues in countries where site-blocking is operational. In fact, several of these counties rank higher on core democratic values than the United States.

“Many of the countries that permit judicial site blocking, including Canada, Australia, and the UK, ranked higher than the U.S. in the Economist Intelligence Unit’s latest annual index of the state of democracy around the world.

“The takeaway? There is little, if any, evidence of a negative correlation between site blocking and freedom of expression,” Vitale adds.

Calling on Congress​

Opponents have pointed out that site blocking is a slippery slope that threatens free speech. In addition, the effectiveness of the measures are also in question, as they are easy to bypass or circumvent.

Vitale counters the latter by pointing to research that shows how site blocking can decrease piracy and increase legal consumption. It may not be perfect, but that’s besides the point.

“It is time for these outdated arguments against commonsense anti-piracy tools to stop. Protecting the creative industries has always been a bipartisan issue, and I hope that members of Congress on both sides of the aisle will soon be ready to discuss site blocking legislation,” Vitale concludes.

The fact that the headline of Vitale’s op-ed avoids the term ‘site blocking’ suggests that sensitivities remain. At this point, however, completely ignoring the site blocking issue is becoming increasingly uncomfortable.

There is some movement already, however. US Senator Thom Tillis previously asked the public to share their views on site blocking. This triggered unanimous support from the Motion Picture Association, but there was plenty of opposition too, as always.
 
Make a product that's better than the pirated version and make stuff more easily available. I like to read a lot of manga that will never get an official English translation. If I want to read Suicide Island in my native language, I have to pirate it. Zetman? Same problem. Maybe I want to laugh at Wolf Guy Wolfen Crest and its middle schoolers who act like 20 year olds.

Can't do that unless I pirate it. Don't even get me started on 30+ year old games no one cares about.
i wonder if like a personalized interactive content thing could work.
pirating it breaks the game cuz its not personalized.
 
They want all content to be online and streamed so they could seamlessly tweak it with AIs to fit changing political climate. ACKSHUALLY, Mark Twain's books never had a single n-word in them, chud!
We use checksums to verify the integrity of software, we're going to need them for everything soon, because AI-pozzed corpojunk will flood pirate sites, too.
 
Imagine looking at the state of things and thinking that kvetching about those damn dirty pirates for the 1000th time is a bright idea. Optimistic as fuck but I hope for a day someone unapologetically pops the soundproof bubble these faggots live in.
 
This group and who they rep can GO FUCK THEMSELVES! We already need to get rid of their disastrous DMCA and CR system as a whole. It needs to be burned to the ground and only then can we start to think about rebuilding it!

CR was only meant to be a limited short term protection to make sure artists/creators were actually able to make some money off of their creations. To incentivize the creation of more works, NOT to make artists as much money as possible! This fact cannot be overstated enough! It's this fact that makes current CR law and ideology so fucking perverse.. Especially when it now gets protected under criminal law too. (criminal DRM circumvention laws which are arguably illegal/unconstitutional and the like)

The most hilarious part is that the one group/company that is most responsible for this mess, is the very same company that largely made it's name and money off of others ideas and stories, stories specifically lacking modern CR protections under original CR law that they had changed! They and others are now trying to use the government and criminal law to enforce their whims on everyone else even more than they already do.

This is a fight for freedom as these same groups have made it clear that they want nothing less than a CR police state internet where filters and other failed tech and policies strip away your right to even upload video.
 
aw fuck, I was just gonna make a thread about this article.

The most blood-boiling thing about this is they are holding up the draconian and controversial censorship measures outlined in controversial bills like article 13 as the golden standard, and not a terrifying precedent that will create an American internet that resembles Egypt, Iran, or China in terms of censorship and DNS blocking.

Abolish IP laws, fuck pedowood, and fuck the rent seeking monopolists propping up this bogus system of laws
Surprised they aren't trying to go after VPNs, which would circumvent any of this nonsense.
oh don't worry, I'm sure when the time comes for the congress to draft SOPA 2.0 they'll include that in there. Welcome to the firewall of freedom patriot!
This group and who they rep can GO FUCK THEMSELVES! We already need to get rid of their disastrous DMCA and CR system as a whole. It needs to be burned to the ground and only then can we start to think about rebuilding it!
no, don't rebuild it, IP is a bogus concept that only functions as a monopoly on ideas and information. It's in direct contradiction with actual property rights as it requires the violation of them to enforce. It also creates artificial scarcity and conflict in an area where these things would otherwise not exist, it is evil and an affront to human progress.
 
I'm not watching anything that comes out of Pedowood so go ahead and block.

That's actually a pretty dangerous position to take.. For a number of different reasons. But on a basic level, it's not just PW that would use this. Japanese pubs and devs try to use these things even for media they refuse to make available here. And even when they do, there is still the issue of them mindlessly putting things into the hands of western censors and big media. And don't discount how much elite media, tech and SJWs would love another reason to be able to gatekeep japanese and asian media in general. All media in fact.
 
This would be nothing more than a symbolic gesture, as pirate sites are slippery as fuck and VPNs exist. Hell, they can't even take Kiwifarms offline despite having a 10,000 strong army of troons at their disposal. Suprbay forum is still up, despite massive efforts to take it down.

Content creators would do well to forget trying to stop piracy and just make everything available in a central location for a cheap monthly fee. This still wouldn't solve the problem of censorship and revisionism, so piracy would be necessary to preserve accurate versions of shows and other media for future generations.
 
I recently bought a bootleg Blu-Ray copy of Song of the South. Pretty good quality too for something that's ripped directly from an old theatrical release and not remastered, higher quality than the less-than-DVD quality I downloaded previously.

Digital piracy isn't just acceptable in this day and age, it's a moral obligation. Both because the entertainment industry deserves to burn, and because we need to preserve history, both positive and negative. And that's not just because I'm on Kiwifarms, but also because I once worked in some capacity as a archivist for a religious organization. I was even told to collect literature that spoke negatively of my religion.

If these retards want us to stop, all they gotta do is repent of their degeneracy, and knock it off with the globohomo shit.

Content creators would do well to forget trying to stop piracy and just make everything available in a central location for a cheap monthly fee. This still wouldn't solve the problem of censorship and revisionism, so piracy would be necessary to preserve accurate versions of shows and other media for future generations.

Youtube still allows you to buy movies from them that you always have, even if you stop paying the monthly fee, even Disney movies, or others who have moved off of Netflix.

It's still easier for me, and many others, to just get a Blu Ray disk and just rip it. USB optical disk drives aren't hard to come by.
 
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This would be nothing more than a symbolic gesture, as pirate sites are slippery as fuck and VPNs exist. Hell, they can't even take Kiwifarms offline despite having a 10,000 strong army of troons at their disposal. Suprbay forum is still up, despite massive efforts to take it down.
Put pressure in the right areas, and a lot of what we take for granted can come tumbling down. They could pass legislation to hold Cloudflare liable for shielding pirate sites, for example. IP holders don't need to kill piracy completely, just make it more of a pain in the ass for the people running the pirate sites/services, and normies that casually pirate. The fact that I can use the exact same pirate sites years in a row means that isn't happening yet. At some point we might see the ez pirate streaming sites get fucked hard, and have to return to tradition (torrents).

What gets me hopeful is that technology appears to be on our side. Storage and bandwidth costs go down, storage density goes up, you could potentially operate a site on a moving ship connected by Starlink or future constellations, etc. If things get really bad we can talk about meshnets.
 
Digital piracy isn't just acceptable in this day and age, it's a moral obligation. Both because the entertainment industry deserves to burn, and because we need to preserve history, both positive and negative.
This is really the biggest issue: with the advent of digital distribution it will be trivial to disappear swathes of media and without a proper repository somewhere that shit will molder in cloud based vaults for containing too many nigger words.

Local copies rule supreme and nobody by my own incompetence can take them from me.
 
This is really the biggest issue: with the advent of digital distribution it will be trivial to disappear swathes of media and without a proper repository somewhere that shit will molder in cloud based vaults for containing too many nigger words.

Local copies rule supreme and nobody by my own incompetence can take them from me.

Seriously this! A digital and especially streaming future is the end of media history.
 
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This group and who they rep can GO FUCK THEMSELVES! We already need to get rid of their disastrous DMCA and CR system as a whole. It needs to be burned to the ground and only then can we start to think about rebuilding it!

CR was only meant to be a limited short term protection to make sure artists/creators were actually able to make some money off of their creations. To incentivize the creation of more works, NOT to make artists as much money as possible! This fact cannot be overstated enough! It's this fact that makes current CR law and ideology so fucking perverse.. Especially when it now gets protected under criminal law too. (criminal DRM circumvention laws which are arguably illegal/unconstitutional and the like)

The most hilarious part is that the one group/company that is most responsible for this mess, is the very same company that largely made it's name and money off of others ideas and stories, stories specifically lacking modern CR protections under original CR law that they had changed! They and others are now trying to use the government and criminal law to enforce their whims on everyone else even more than they already do.

This is a fight for freedom as these same groups have made it clear that they want nothing less than a CR police state internet where filters and other failed tech and policies strip away your right to even upload video.
As stated before Assault ban = Biden. DMCA = Clinton. CBDC = Biden. Loosing Banking controls. = Obama/Biden. Bailing out the liberal Rich = Biden. Covid Shut Down with Vaccine Passports = Biden.

This nonsense = Biden.

ALL are from Socialistic Capitalism. If people can not understand what the social elite are doing, you might as well go fucking neck yourself as you are nothing but walking MEAT to the new Feudal OverLords.

Here is a video of what I am talking about the Those who have money.

Again. I've seen this shit over 20 years ago. It fucking scared me... badly... on how willingly people will do anything for the sake of the coin.

I've survived that shit by walking away from it while I could. The whole thing is to create useless individuals so the Elite can control everything.

Everything.
 
I remember when they first shilled streaming as the wave of the future in which you could watch any film or television show from anywhere in the world with just a press of a button for a low cost.

Now I'd have to pay more than premium cable used to cost just to watch a handful of shows I love. Not only that, but these companies cave to the slightest pressure from activists so entire series can get immediately ripped from your service because some activist group pressured the company. For instance, one of my relatives loved Live PD and was pissed when they removed that series due to the riots. They also removed shows like Little Britain because some trannies complained about it, though I think that one eventually got restored after enough counter protests.

The films you watch aren't always the full versions, either, though they often don't tell you that so if you want to watch an uncensored, uncut film you're often shit out of luck with most of these places.

Even "renting" is a joke nowadays. You had to return tapes on time because stock was limited and other people wanted to watch them, but with digital services this is no longer an issue. Even so, these companies only give you 24-48 hours to "rent" something at the same cost Blockbuster used to offer for a 5 day rental.

Lastly, the selection for most of of these services sucks compared to what they used to be. When Netflix still had a DVD catalogue, you could choose from a huge list of films and rent as many as five at a time depending on your plan and you could keep them until you were finished. I also had a lot of luck finding cool, obscure shit at various video stores, too. I probably saw more unusual films during this period than I ever have during the streaming age, which makes zero sense.
 
I remember when they first shilled streaming as the wave of the future in which you could watch any film or television show from anywhere in the world with just a press of a button for a low cost.

Now I'd have to pay more than premium cable used to cost just to watch a handful of shows I love. Not only that, but these companies cave to the slightest pressure from activists so entire series can get immediately ripped from your service because some activist group pressured the company. For instance, one of my relatives loved Live PD and was pissed when they removed that series due to the riots. They also removed shows like Little Britain because some trannies complained about it, though I think that one eventually got restored after enough counter protests.

The films you watch aren't always the full versions, either, though they often don't tell you that so if you want to watch an uncensored, uncut film you're often shit out of luck with most of these places.

Even "renting" is a joke nowadays. You had to return tapes on time because stock was limited and other people wanted to watch them, but with digital services this is no longer an issue. Even so, these companies only give you 24-48 hours to "rent" something at the same cost Blockbuster used to offer for a 5 day rental.

Lastly, the selection for most of of these services sucks compared to what they used to be. When Netflix still had a DVD catalogue, you could choose from a huge list of films and rent as many as five at a time depending on your plan and you could keep them until you were finished. I also had a lot of luck finding cool, obscure shit at various video stores, too. I probably saw more unusual films during this period than I ever have during the streaming age, which makes zero sense.

Yup.. This is exactly what people like me tried to warn everyone about. Everything. From the fact that there was no way in hell big media was going to willingly allow all their old media to be available and thus risk diverting attention from their "newest thing", to the $$$ cost, to the risk guarantee of censorship. Just wait until the next moral panic, or some business nitwit gets into his head that going all-in on virtue will be good for business/image and decides to scrub the R rated versions of everything from their services. Or they start canceling media connected to canceled people.

Not to mention what the digital and streaming future holds for more complex media like with gaming. Streaming is literally the end of history with gaming.
 
It's almost impossible to do this without enacting some draconian legislation like letting the FCC block websites it doesn't like. Which is what SOPA attempted. Or doing something that doesn't then affect something like Google like removing Section 230. The real fix is reforming copyright but they really don't want to do that since it's way too hard.

I don't see a bill passing without a copyright reform bill being passed first. I see copyright reform as inevitable but it's really just a question of when. Either this decade or the next. It'll certainly be necessary by the 2030s due to the amount of superheroes like Superman and Batman entering the Public Domain by then.
 
I remember when they first shilled streaming as the wave of the future in which you could watch any film or television show from anywhere in the world with just a press of a button for a low cost.
I live in that future. Streaming piracy works quite well today, coming a long way since the days of Megavideo. The pirate sites don't experience the fragmentation seen with streaming services.

While I don't download much video anymore which is a bit of a faux pas, most of the content is slop anyway. To the point where I'd rather browse lolcows on KF, shitpost about the noose, or watch some techtubers than watch "TV".

It's likely that some of the competing streaming services will merge with each other, reducing the catalog fragmentation. I doubt it will be great for the consoomer in the long run. Just look at Netflix's price hikes.
 
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