Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

The Rich Have Their Own Ethics: Effective Altruism & the Crypto Crash (ft. F1nn5ter)
(24/02/23)

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Skipped through this absolute snooze fest, but didn't miss him saying he would have owned a house if he had just "toed the line" and not (supposedly) talked about Lenin at the "banking conference". He says while completely towing the line with his breadtube shtick and making bank on Youtube and Patreon.

These breadtubers and similar who are pretending to be poor are so embarrassing, but Choobie even more so because he can't help but also brag about how successful he is.

Edit: I'm a dumb nigger
 
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Just finished watching Chube's latest and it was all over the place. Something to do with effective altruism but there really was no central topic. It went from his anecdote about speaking at a conference then to defining effective altruism, which Olly defines as where to best put your money to help people. He then brings up Sam Bankman-Fried, who was a prominent effective altruist, and talks about the FTX scam. Next he talks about longtermism, an ethical aspect of effective altruism which prioritizing efforts that target future existential risks to humanity. There's a brief review of books by the creators of effective altruism, along with a claim by Olly that if a woman wrote those books, she would have included something about reproductive rights. And as a personal aside, it says something about Olly that a crossdresser like F1nn5ter appears more feminine in a skirt than Olly does in a latex nun outfit (he looks like he's dressed up as a tube of toothpaste!).

There's talk about the concern of AI that goes nowhere. Olly brings up the issue of how can one exactly measure how effective altruism will decrease a future risk, a critique of effective altruism about 30 minutes into the 41 minute video. He brought the concerns of handing your money to people like Bankman early on but I don't really see that as a critique of effective altruism and more a common problem with handing your money to a charity.

The last section of the video brings up what Olly claims to be the central question of the video; how do we best use money to change the world? Do we reform within the system or smash the system? Olly passive aggressively leans towards the later as his preference. It ends with a shilling of his play (and the many awards it won) and the Nebula streaming service.

As I said at the beginning, the video goes all over the place. He seems to assume that the effectiveness aspect of effective altruism means to help more distant people, using a hypothetical of spending $40,000 to train a service dog for a blind person in the UK versus $50 to prevent a parasite that causes blindness from harming children in Africa. I assume cost-effectiveness is part of the effectiveness measure but not the only one. He also takes issue with the fact that effective altruists like to support projects that are focused on resolving a problem rather than the root of it. He should take a look at development theory as he would learn how difficult that is. Local political factors, social conditions, priorities of the community, and perhaps importantly, knowing what the root of the problem is!

There is no central theme. Given how Bankman, Mr. Beast, Elon Musk, and his play are brought up, it seems like he was trying to find a philosophical concept that could be strung across the headlines of the past few months.

TL;DR Philosophy Tube put out the video equivalent of C- college paper on effective altruism.
I knew he would fumble the easiest fucking video to make in existence. Hell we have three different threads relating to EA and EA-adjacent cows. It's honestly impressive how much he managed to fuck it up. I'd be less incredulous if he just read through those threads and repeated the shit he found verbatim without even crediting KF.
 
It's obvious he only wanted another excuse to wear fetish gear.
Olly was once motivated, I think, by a sincere desire to discuss philosophy; now his only motivations are: (1) to show himself off in women's clothes/fetish outfits, (2) to talk about himself, (3) to whine about trannies not getting everything they want all the time, (4) to promote his acting career, and (5) to to reel in Patreon donors. It's all very pathetic.
 
Olly was once motivated, I think, by a sincere desire to discuss philosophy; now his only motivations are: (1) to show himself off in women's clothes/fetish outfits, (2) to talk about himself, (3) to whine about trannies not getting everything they want all the time, (4) to promote his acting career, and (5) to to reel in Patreon donors. It's all very pathetic.
He was so full off life during those really early videos, people always talk about California sucking the soul out of people but really the UK is way worse. Even that actor he hired during the coming out video couldn't emulate his weird soulless demeanor
 
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Tube desperately inserting himself into things just incase we forgot.
His comments to people are so clearly like...for everyone elses reading benefit, rather than theirs-
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lol
 
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Skipped through this absolute snooze fest, but didn't miss him saying he would have owned a house if he had just "towed the line" and not (supposedly) talked about Lenin at the "banking conference". He says while completely towing the line with his breadtube shtick and making bank on Youtube and Patreon.

These breadtubers and similar who are pretending to be poor are so embarrassing, but Choobie even more so because he can't help but also brag about how successful he is.
Did this dumb nigger seriously say towed the line and included that in closed captions?
 
Olly was once motivated, I think, by a sincere desire to discuss philosophy; now his only motivations are: (1) to show himself off in women's clothes/fetish outfits, (2) to talk about himself, (3) to whine about trannies not getting everything they want all the time, (4) to promote his acting career, and (5) to to reel in Patreon donors. It's all very pathetic.
He was so full off life during those really early videos, people always talk about California sucking the soul out of people but really the UK is way worse. Even that actor he hired during the coming out video couldn't emulate his weird soulless demeanor
I guess that would imply he's a fundamentally different person back then than he is right now. It might mean that his youtube success changed him OR that those tendencies were inside him all along and only needed to be coaxed out.
 
Oh boy was he ever!

Here's every single second he was on screen (excluding a cutaway to a previous separate stream of his)


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oof the last frame of this clip got Abi serving some Valak realnessssss

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Finnster supposedly gives some troons "dysphoria" (isn't what they all have anyway?) because he passes so well despite no pretense of actually being a woman. And yeah, he does actually pass as long as it's one specific camera angle. The side profile of his face is obviously a dude.

No such luck for Red Bigfoot though. The width of that waist rivals Kylo Ren's.

Why was Finnster in the video anyway...?
 
Skipped through this absolute snooze fest, but didn't miss him saying he would have owned a house if he had just "towed the line" and not (supposedly) talked about Lenin at the "banking conference". He says while completely towing the line with his breadtube shtick and making bank on Youtube and Patreon.

Wow, a rich kid talking about Lenin. Who has ever heard such a thing?
 
I guess that would imply he's a fundamentally different person back then than he is right now. It might mean that his youtube success changed him OR that those tendencies were inside him all along and only needed to be coaxed out.
I think he's always been like what he is now, but I think he just realised that he could gain a lot more clout by just placating the progressives and garnering as much attention as possible by coming out as a tranny and going half naked in every video.
 
I guess that would imply he's a fundamentally different person back then than he is right now. It might mean that his youtube success changed him OR that those tendencies were inside him all along and only needed to be coaxed out.

This snippet from Isaac Uncooked is poignant as ever


 
I guess that would imply he's a fundamentally different person back then than he is right now. It might mean that his youtube success changed him OR that those tendencies were inside him all along and only needed to be coaxed out.
It's an interesting question. I would say probably both are true. The narcissism part clearly runs deep, but I feel quite sure that his life would have gone in a much saner direction were it not for YouTube.

He was so full off life during those really early videos, people always talk about California sucking the soul out of people but really the UK is way worse. Even that actor he hired during the coming out video couldn't emulate his weird soulless demeanor
I don't think the UK itself can really be blamed - it's a country of millions of people who all have quite different life experiences. If anything, it's the effect the Internet has on people everywhere.

This snippet from Isaac Uncooked is poignant as ever
Source?
 
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The left and right wings of e-celebdom attract different types of narcissist.

On the left you have Uncle Ted's 'oversocialised' types. To them, social approval is everything and sharing safe, power-approved, legally-enforced woke takes is the easiest way to gain that approval. Changing genders is putting the rocket boosters on.
Contra, Tube, Vaush

The right attracts the would-be bad boys; people who get off on being contrarian and who would one day like to have the noteriety of Ted Bundy but without killing anyone. Indeed, Uncle Jared has postulated that the contrarian mindset needed to become a dissident thinker in the first place is the very reason for all the infighting on that side of the fence.
Fuentes, Spencer, Baked Alaska

Uncles Ted and Jared. That's an episode of Rogan I'd tune in for.
 
Re: the question of whether he has always been this way, I'd say definitely. I don't think it's armchair psychology to say he's an overt narcissist based on literally all of his behaviour. It's really just a case of a very insecure and coddled posh boy who feels his career is moving too slowly and that he lacks recognition he feels he deserves finding a supposed panacea to being "mediocre". Overnight by trooning, Choob gets (or expects/expected to get) a big career boost, the ability to retcon his past free of criticism, a status as special and oppressed, a martyr story, attention for being "sexy", ability to indulge a fetish publicly, and to tell people they don't understand things that he does etc. These inclinations were already there, as narcdom develops when young. Being trans simply allowed him to be like this openly (and quite aggressively sometimes) in a somewhat currently socially acceptable way.

There's a thread somewhere on this site about losing friends/family/acquaintances to trooning and I'd be willing to bet that there's at least one story there similar to this that involves someone becoming suddenly insufferable after trooning. The truth is they were always like this. The trans movement has probably been the biggest enabler in identifying people with personality disorders in recent years, lol.
 
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