Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

View attachment 4592072Look at that big-ass doughy arm. The slouch, the gigantic feet.

is that Claire that that picture with him?
Kinda looks like it- also weird to be like, holding his moob ventilation gash if not.. and someone was taking boring pictures of him in cafes..
If my hypothetical partner tried to put her hand in between my boobs for a photo I would wonder what the fuck she was doing. This is not how you pose with a woman. I have, however, seen many a wife/girlfriend/gay man pose like this with their male partners...
 
What a fucking loser. Reminds me for some reason of Doug Walker quitting his job and thinking he's a complete badass:

View attachment 4612188

If only Olly had likewise convinced one of his stans to film the whole encounter so the cringe could be preserved for posterity. Assuming it actually happened of course.

Also - I'm guessing that was the payment - as if Olly wouldn't have been perfectly aware that those were the terms of the deal in advance. Total ingratitude of course for his free holiday to Madrid in return for doing absolutely nothing other than ordering his benefactors to resign.
Hard to believe the thread got this long before the inevitable comparisons to Doug Walker
 
Hard to believe the thread got this long before the inevitable comparisons to Doug Walker
I feel kind of bad, honestly. Doug is cringey and lame, sure, but he's harmless. Olly is cringey and lame and also a total cunt. I try not to be too MATI but I really hate this guy. I know which of the two I'd prefer to be trapped in an elevator with. Easy choice.
 
Personally I’m already getting fatigued with this deluge of Oliver content. A little chube goes a long way.

View attachment 4607326

His answer:

Great question! After the NHS video a bunch of people signed up for my Patreon. As far as I'm concerned that money isn't mine, it's my patrons', so it wouldn't be right for me to spend it on myself. I need to spend it on making Philosophy Tube better. I thought about what the show might need, and my ideas were:
A) a video editor, or B) a social media manager
I decided against hiring an editor pretty quickly because I like doing the editing myself - it's often where the last mile of creative inspiration comes. Yes it's HARD WORK but I like giving it that personal touch.
I already knew that if I wanted to show to keep growing and keep reaching new audiences I'd need to get on Instagram and TikTok. Especially TikTok - that's just where the audiences are now. It's one of the most used search engines in the world and it's where the 13-18 demographic are. Whether I like it or not that's just a fact, and I can either accept it and work with it or ignore it and face the consequences.
And you might ask, "Well why does the show need to grow, why not keep it as it is?!" Good question! The natural tendency of YouTube channels and Patreon pages is they shrink: people gradually drop off, they move on to another creator, their life circumstances change and they don't watch as much YouTube anymore - all totally natural and understandable life reasons why entertainment products get affected by entropy. So if you want to keep going at all you need to be reaching new audiences.
I decided to take the money the new patrons had given me and invest it back into the show - put their money on the screen rather than in my pocket. They gave me that money cause they want more Philosophy Tube, and this was the best way I could think of to ensure that more gets made. It's very early days but I'm enjoying it so far and I've also been getting a fair bit of creative inspiration from trying out a new skill set!
It's a bit scary and anxiety-provoking, and I've already noticed an uptick in transphobic abuse since we launched, but I've got a good safety net and good working practices set up to keep me healthy and safe. My social media manager and I have wargamed various worst case scenarios and we're checking in regularly to see what's working and what's not.[\spoiler]
Lol. Him being a CCP ching chong simp definitely plays a role as well. His video on Confucianism whilst almost entirely factually wrong shows his enthusiasm towards ching chong culture, and tiktok is a ching chong app.

Him 'wargaming' worst case scenarios has to be the most cringeworthy and larpiest shit I've seen in a while
 
I've seen The Royal Institute stuff and it's just a bunch of Schizo posting. The writer obviously doesn't know anything about The Royal Institute or UK public life, despite it's name it's an independent charity, not a deep state cabal. It's basically a very old (Sir Issac Newton was a member) members club for prominent scientists. These days it does a lot of public out reach and science communication. A banal public health campaign is right up their street.
It's an "independent charity" with these donors:

The Grayzone said:
Its top patron is Charles, the Prince of Wales, next in line to the British throne, who recently hit out at supposed “conspiracy theories” surrounding COVID-19 vaccines. The organization received a substantial cash injection in 2020 from the UK government’s Culture Recovery Fund earmarked for video production.

Using a charity to pass along covid propaganda to Choob is just simple information laundering from the UK feds, just as the DHS in the US engaged all forms of media in the US to promote vaccines. Late night, IG influencers, Youtube, Tom Brady, even evangelical pastors.

Major [Public Education] Projects in April

  • Vaccine engagement package to all entertainment talent and management agencies
  • Vaccine engagement package to all media companies and show producers
  • Outreach to major culture event producers
  • Outreach with WCDT [likely We Can Do This] brand and engagement ideas to major businesses and associations
  • Launch Community Corps Business Chapter
  • Start celebrity Share the Mics
***​

POTUS May 1-31

  • Late night hosts vaccination video.
***​

Additional Ideas to be Considered

Digital Media

  • Produce HHS question-and-answer videos featuring local Black doctors discussing the vaccines, how they work, and why the public should get vaccinated
  • Request that Tom Brady create a video with his parents encouraging vaccination (his parents had COVID last year and he has talked about their tough recovery).
  • Create custom partnerships with the social media platforms with algorithms to hit the audience.
  • Launch Hollywood comedy writers video content.
***​

  • Work with YouTube on an original special about vaccinations targeted to young people (similar to the YouTube’s Dear Call of 2020 special).
  • Work with Instagram to produce a series about vaccines for @instagram (the largest social media account in the world, 387 million followers). Feature young creators doing in-depth pieces about young people’s questions. Request a Stories Highlight on Vaccines on @instagram to stay on the account through 2021.
  • Request major TikTok, Snapchat and Instagram influences to create videos of themselves being vaccinated and start a special campaign of funny and/or musical videos about being vaccinate to encourage others to create content and post.
Earned Media

  • Request a vaccination special on Christian Broadcast Network featur[ing] Evangelical leaders.
  • Request that the major live TV entertainment shows feature hosts being vaccinated on air (ex: the hosts of The Voice).
  • Request that the TV morning and daytime talk shows feature special vaccination reunion moments with everyday Americans talking about what this means to them (ex: hugging grandma for the first time).
  • Convene an editorial meeting with the publishers of Catholic newspapers and newsletters across the country (ex: America Magazine, Florida Catholic, The Catholic Spirit, The Tablet).
  • Dr. Biden interview with Chip and Joanna Gaines for Magnolia.
  • Request vaccination specials with BET, The Undefeated, Desus & Mero, Sneaker Shopper. Hot Ones.
  • Request a vaccination special With Christian Broadcasting Netflix and Evangelical leaders.
  • Place a trusted messenger on the Joe Rogan Show and Barstool Sports to promote vaccination (work with outside expert to identify who will be most effective).
Partnerships

  • Work with the NFL, NASCAR, MLB, CMA to request they create content with their talent and release through their broadcast and social channels. Also create a Share the Mic program where the talent elevates public health voices.
  • Work with all major sports leagues to send vaccination information to ticket holders
  • Work with ESPN for hosts to provide vaccination information.
  • Partner with Disneyland Parks for vaccination events when the amusement parks reopen.
  • Work with the Hollywood guilds to work vaccination messaging into scriped and reality TV shows (ex: Writers Guild, Directors Guild.)
 
The Prince sucked, by the way. Sadly, it wasn't hilariously disastrous or ridiculous, just bad. May give it another watch with some wine over the weekend and provide some more detailed thoughts, but here are some quick notes:
  • It was genuinely hard to follow. Not because there was anything complex going on, but because things just jumped around. As some of the reviewers pointed out, the whole mixing of the worlds of real life and the plays doesn't make sense and you just have to hand wave it. They don't try to make it make sense.
  • There's a lot of Shakespeare in it. This wasn't even a bad thing because Shakespeare is obviously a much better playwright than PT and all of the cast were at least competent Shakespearean actors. But I can't help but think most of the audience will have been very confused. I'm a Shakespeare nerd so it was pretty obvious to me whose lines we were hearing at a given moment, but I'm sure lots of people were lost (lots of people, even native speakers, will be lost whenever Shakespeare is performed). I expected there to be a couple of short scenes pulled straight from Henry, but there was loads more, maybe a third of the whole text.
    • The mad lad even did the 'TubeyTo be, or not Tubey to be' soliloquy. Every actor dreams of playing Hamlet. Now the girls can too!
    • I can't help but think Tube might have put all the Shakespeare scenes in with the hope that many people wouldn't know which bits were his and might think he's a better writer. But the sad truth is most people struggle to understand Shakespeare so the result was doubtless just confusing people.
  • The whole trans transformation...I don't even know what happened
    • There isn't any clear arc of Hotspur realizing he's trans. The real life trannies just kind of immediately recognize him to be one...because he has long hair or something? His feminine vibe? idk
    • What's more, we don't even really get a big speech about realizing he's a woman and musing about all that that implies. It just...happens in a very non-explicit and shockingly understated way.
  • Olly gets the girl in the end.
  • I honestly believe the play would have been better if it had more tranny shit. As it was, it gets too bogged down in (bad) medieval commentary, cheap jokes about language, a lackluster love plot, performing Shakespeare scenes as he wrote them but not really putting any creative spin on the text, and other diversions.
  • The acting was fine. Tube was definitely the worst of the main cast. I thought the guy playing Hal was also no good but Olly really stood out. I don't even think I'm being biased but obviously I do have my prejudices against the guy. The two other troons were good. I think others will disagree but I thought the bulky blonde one was very natural on the stage (despite the unnatural and off-putting feminine veneer of his appearance). The HSTS playing Jen wasn't as strong imo, but both could reliably find work in community theater. I'd say it's a shame they're troons but actually that will probably help their careers.
 
The Prince sucked, by the way. Sadly, it wasn't hilariously disastrous or ridiculous, just bad. May give it another watch with some wine over the weekend and provide some more detailed thoughts, but here are some quick notes:
  • It was genuinely hard to follow. Not because there was anything complex going on, but because things just jumped around. As some of the reviewers pointed out, the whole mixing of the worlds of real life and the plays doesn't make sense and you just have to hand wave it. They don't try to make it make sense.
  • There's a lot of Shakespeare in it. This wasn't even a bad thing because Shakespeare is obviously a much better playwright than PT and all of the cast were at least competent Shakespearean actors. But I can't help but think most of the audience will have been very confused. I'm a Shakespeare nerd so it was pretty obvious to me whose lines we were hearing at a given moment, but I'm sure lots of people were lost (lots of people, even native speakers, will be lost whenever Shakespeare is performed). I expected there to be a couple of short scenes pulled straight from Henry, but there was loads more, maybe a third of the whole text.
    • The mad lad even did the 'TubeyTo be, or not Tubey to be' soliloquy. Every actor dreams of playing Hamlet. Now the girls can too!
    • I can't help but think Tube might have put all the Shakespeare scenes in with the hope that many people wouldn't know which bits were his and might think he's a better writer. But the sad truth is most people struggle to understand Shakespeare so the result was doubtless just confusing people.
  • The whole trans transformation...I don't even know what happened
    • There isn't any clear arc of Hotspur realizing he's trans. The real life trannies just kind of immediately recognize him to be one...because he has long hair or something? His feminine vibe? idk
    • What's more, we don't even really get a big speech about realizing he's a woman and musing about all that that implies. It just...happens in a very non-explicit and shockingly understated way.
  • Olly gets the girl in the end.
  • I honestly believe the play would have been better if it had more tranny shit. As it was, it gets too bogged down in (bad) medieval commentary, cheap jokes about language, a lackluster love plot, performing Shakespeare scenes as he wrote them but not really putting any creative spin on the text, and other diversions.
  • The acting was fine. Tube was definitely the worst of the main cast. I thought the guy playing Hal was also no good but Olly really stood out. I don't even think I'm being biased but obviously I do have my prejudices against the guy. The two other troons were good. I think others will disagree but I thought the bulky blonde one was very natural on the stage (despite the unnatural and off-putting feminine veneer of his appearance). The HSTS playing Jen wasn't as strong imo, but both could reliably find work in community theater. I'd say it's a shame they're troons but actually that will probably help their careers.
So this is probably just because I'm massively retarded, but what exactly is Olly adapting? Hotspur is from Henry IV, but then Olly has the Hamlet soliloquy in there to? Is this just like a mash up of a bunch of different plays?

Regardless, as a better writer than Olly once said:

"There lives not three good men unhanged in England."

(Falstaff, Act 2 Scene 4)
 
So this is probably just because I'm massively retarded, but what exactly is Olly adapting? Hotspur is from Henry IV, but then Olly has the Hamlet soliloquy in there to? Is this just like a mash up of a bunch of different plays?

Regardless, as a better writer than Olly once said:

"There lives not three good men unhanged in England."

(Falstaff, Act 2 Scene 4)
He didn't adapt anything, strictly speaking. Henry IV part one is where most of the Shakespeare comes from. But the premise of The Prince is that two trannies (who are definitely real world people) get sucked into a Shakespeare universe where they can move between plays (randomly or sometimes with some device). It's unclear whether the other cast members are or were once real world people who somehow have become stuck there, or whether they are from Shakespeare world but are capable of joining the real world (as Olly does with his gf at the end).

The two real world people mention having spent time in other plays, but we find them at the start in Henry IV part one. At some point, they go to Hamlet so Olly can do the soliloquy because of reasons. I think there may have been some Henry IV part two bits as well. I'll have to watch it again to be sure though.

It is strange that he chose Henry IV. I really can't think of any reason. He wanted to be Hamlet, after all. Hamlet is also much more widely known and, in my opinion, trans Hamlet is more plausible than trans Hotspur.
 
Lol. Him being a CCP ching chong simp definitely plays a role as well. His video on Confucianism whilst almost entirely factually wrong shows his enthusiasm towards ching chong culture, and tiktok is a ching chong app.

Him 'wargaming' worst case scenarios has to be the most cringeworthy and larpiest shit I've seen in a while
He probably likes China because their words for he/she/it all sound the same ("tā", 他/她/它) and he doesn't realise they're all misgendering him. I wonder if he knows the word 白左 yet, or why CCP members call him that and laugh at him.
 
If only Olly had likewise convinced one of his stans to film the whole encounter so the cringe could be preserved for posterity. Assuming it actually happened of course.
Yes, if this actually happened he would certainly have made sure someone filmed this. But really, every time he talks about himself or something he did you can be sure he's making up most of it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r
But yeah I can’t tell from this clip if he’s talking (for sure) about himself. In what world would he be invited to a conference to give a keynote speech on tackling the world’s most vexing problems? Oh yeah, this world, clown world.


View attachment 4609189
Surely there would be documentation for this. Has anyone found any mention of this from the time? Ol lies doesn't strike me as the type to invent something so big out of whole cloth. In my mind his lies are either about tiny interactions that didn't happen, or gross exaggerations and reorderings of things that actually did. This is a whopper though and I find it really hard to believe that years ago, when he was just a middling youtuber, he got invited to be a keynote speaker at a banking conference. Why would anyone invite him? Is any part of this story true? I quick search and I come up with nothing.

Edit: Am I retarded? There's nothing in the clip suggesting he was quoting anyone. Do people really make TikToks IG videos where they just tell someone else's story without saying so? Is he playing this off as his story or am I missing something?
 
Last edited:
Surely there would be documentation for this. Has anyone found any mention of this from the time? Ol lies doesn't strike me as the type to invent something so big out of whole cloth. In my mind his lies are either about tiny interactions that didn't happen, or gross exaggerations and reorderings of things that actually did. This is a whopper though and I find it really hard to believe that years ago, when he was just a middling youtuber, he got invited to be a keynote speaker at a banking conference. Why would anyone invite him? Is any part of this story true? I quick search and I come up with nothing.

Edit: Am I retarded? There's nothing in the clip suggesting he was quoting anyone. Do people really make TikToks IG videos where they just tell someone else's story without saying so? Is he playing this off as his story or am I missing something?
They do, but i think this may have been an excerpt from his new video where he’a reading out someone else’s story. I could be totally wrong, just a possibility.
 
They do, but i think this may have been an excerpt from his new video where he’a reading out someone else’s story. I could be totally wrong, just a possibility.
That makes sense. Like I said, every part of this sounds utterly implausible and I'd be surprised to see Toob tell such a grandiose lie. Hopefully you're right. Or not, seeing him increase his narc level would be fun too. Still, if this does turn out to be a clip from the upcoming video where he's relating someone else's story, it's so wrong for him to upload it to Instagram where most everyone will assume he is the anticap goddess rebel who did this great thing that made everyone clap.
 
It is strange that he chose Henry IV. I really can't think of any reason. He wanted to be Hamlet, after all. Hamlet is also much more widely known and, in my opinion, trans Hamlet is more plausible than trans Hotspur.
If he had chosen Hamlet then he would have left himself open to comparisons to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, a far, far, far better play.
 
Surely there would be documentation for this. Has anyone found any mention of this from the time? Ol lies doesn't strike me as the type to invent something so big out of whole cloth. In my mind his lies are either about tiny interactions that didn't happen, or gross exaggerations and reorderings of things that actually did. This is a whopper though and I find it really hard to believe that years ago, when he was just a middling youtuber, he got invited to be a keynote speaker at a banking conference. Why would anyone invite him? Is any part of this story true? I quick search and I come up with nothing.

Edit: Am I retarded? There's nothing in the clip suggesting he was quoting anyone. Do people really make TikToks IG videos where they just tell someone else's story without saying so? Is he playing this off as his story or am I missing something?
Nah, big corporates do sometimes get the most ridiculous speakers in to talk to the staff. There's a lot of grifters in that circuit like diversity and inclusion wonks, and lanyard wearing people who can use a load of buzzwords and technobabble to dazzle the management (who then make all the tech staff watch that shit, and they generally go along with it because it's a skive and they can make fun of it afterwards, and they get free snacks). I could believe this one.

Minor powerlevel, I've seen corporate speakers like Boris Johnson's brother, who is famous for nothing else but that, sperging out about how he imagines "the future" (sci fi bullshit, basically). Choob is a rich connected posh boy so a relative might've got him that gig; and a guy who ran his own risk consultancy and spent the entire time telling us that 9/11 was an inside job, recommending StormCloudsGathering and Infowars. and insisting that when the government rolls out RFID chip implantation, we must NEVER get them.
 
A banking conference no less!

Going by the worlds problem solving list he gave this sounds like a business studies faculty/ student course research event.

If it was any thing more serious they wouldn't be playing at grown ups, they would be properly business planning and would have had a budget for a decent speaker, from the ex government leader circuit. The wouldn't blag a freebie off an idiot tuber.
 
The TikTok/IG video is literally just the intro to the upcoming video.

Found a reference to a vlog he made about Madrid Future Trends Forum from 2017, which seems to fit the bill. Sadly the video appears to be unlisted.

image.png
image2.png
The playlist
The foundation
Future trends forum
 
The TikTok/IG video is literally just the intro to the upcoming video.

Found a reference to a vlog he made about Madrid Future Trends Forum from 2017, which seems to fit the bill. Sadly the video appears to be unlisted.

View attachment 4616481
View attachment 4616478
The playlist
The foundation
Future trends forum
He’s acknowledged as a participant in this report from 2016. https://www.fundacionbankinter.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Publicacion-PDF-IN-FTF_Longevidad.pdf

Compared to all the other participants’ blurbs he sounds very unaccomplished. He also doesn't seem to have any contribution to the paper.
 
Back