Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Procrastinhater]

I actually contemplated making a post like this a few weeks ago. For me, I think it's that the metioidoplasty results are still recognizable as clitorises. Yeah, phalloplasties and neovaginas are uniformly awful, but they don't resemble human genitals at all. Those surgeries attempt to create something that wasn't there before using the mangled remnants of the preexisting genitals, whereas a metioidoplasty just leaves the butchered tissue in situ. You can look at a neovagina or a rotdog and not really even recognize it; it's like your brain just refuses to see it as human genitalia.

Seeing a clitoris butchered like that, though, is absolutely horrifying. For those of us who own one, it's really uncomfortable to look at metioidoplasty results knowing how ungodly painful it must be to do that to yourself.

Yeah when I've shown my wife rotdogs she laughs at them, she thinks they're horrible but she won't even look at metas, said they're "nightmare fuel" that make her feel physically ill, I guess it's a woman thing, you gotta have one to know how awful they are.
I'm a man and they make me feel sick but she can't even look at them.

 

[Slur Generator]

I cannot look at rotpockets. I get the uncomfortable feeling of seeing someone hit in the dick x100. Rotdogs are kinda funny in a lovecraftian kind of way. The whole thick burito on a tiny frame looks so ridiculous.

 

[Fapcop]

Yeah when I've shown my wife rotdogs she laughs at them, she thinks they're horrible but she won't even look at metas, said they're "nightmare fuel" that make her feel physically ill, I guess it's a woman thing, you gotta have one to know how awful they are.
I'm a man and they make me feel sick but she can't even look at them.

A husband and a wife laughing at rotdogs together. Ngl, there’s something wholesome about that. And they say nothing good ever comes out of trooning out!

 

[Lady Farishta]

I started off feeling v sorry for FtMs, amd that’s evaporating rapidly - a large number of them are as predatory and unpleasant and perverted as then mtfs. It just manifests differently.
MtF, becasue they are male, demand open obedience woth the threat of violence
FtM, becasue they are female, twist people psychologically until they have power over them.

I would agree, and my thinking is that maybe taking testosterone also has something to do with it, maybe making them more predatory in the male/mtf way due to the fact it's fucking up their femaleness on the hormonal level. just a thought and I totally don't know if this could actually be it. but I've heard tifs remark that testosterone made them angrier and unable to cry, as well as hornier or more after the "coom", as you all say...

 

[The Catgirl says UwU]

It doesn’t take testosterone to make women behave like evil, conniving, vindictive bitches towards each other. A peek inside any high-school could tell you that.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Here's a r/FTMMen post that's really bothered me

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I’ve been on T for about 3+ years now. I am not ungrateful but I don’t know how to keep going. I don’t want to be trans. I hate the way I don’t have a penis or a flat fucking chest. I can’t just hook up with girls. I’m never actually seen as a guy. As soon as you state you’re trans everyone treats you differently. I hate being trans. I can go on and on but there’s just no point. I don’t know who to reach out to anymore. I’m just sick to my stomach knowing this is the rest of my life. I know there’s more to life than just my gender identity but i don’t want this. I can’t stand being trapped anymore.

Now, the issue here isn't OP's post; but the comments

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Celestial_Ceramic: Are you not able to pursue getting top or bottom surgery?

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OP: I am trying to get top surgery atm. But surgeries ain’t gonna fix this​

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Ollievonb02: It will at least solve some of the issues​

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OP: It’s feels like it’s just a temporary fix. I just want to be comfortable in a biological body​

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Ollievonb02: Why do you see it as a temporary fix?​

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Ratwater (prevalent TiF on r/phallo): Surgeries and hormones change the biology of your body, theyre not gonna revert either​

Unfortunately we only get one body so we gotta make the modifications we can to improve the situation ​

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Celestial_Ceramic: Everyone does​

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TiFs actively pushing surgeries on a TiF who doesn't want to rely on surgeries to make her feel better. Ratwater actually says that your biology changes if you get surgery.
It's like observing a drug addict convincing someone to try drugs.

Ratwater's being particularly shitty as she's one of the unfortunate bastards that got convinced into having delayed abdominal with the butcher Cetrulo. She's miserable.
Here's a post where she defends Cetrulo despite hearing the suffering of others

Dr. Cetrulo isn't taking new patients Archive
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I hope they're trying to sue him. Even though it likely wouldn't work.

Edit: ratwater, a Cetrulo patient, comments with this:
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God she pisses me off. She's definitely seen the complaints from ElephantDick and the others, even if she's only looked at r/phallo posts. All the comments about his constant lying about the procedures, the patients talking about how he's failed them repeatedly, etc.
Defending Cetrulo till the end. This is why surgeons get away with so much, they act like fangirls whose idol can do no wrong.

Last I checked Ratwater was 60 pounds heavier than pre-T; Her phallus is huge ( 8.5" in girth ); had scar contraction; struggles to see it as a "penis"; has/had fistulas, etc.
Here's a quote from her:

"Im so frustrated that months & months, my dick is still bigger than Before my first debulk. I have a hard time registering it as being a dick or my dick at times, mostly due to the size. When i pictured myself with a dick, it was always more in the large flaccid size. My dick's girth right now is huge even by erect standards."​

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Agreeing that rotdogs are like level 8 body horror but metas are 11.

Two reasons:

1. They look painfully sensitive, like they would rub against everything and be permaswollen. The rotdogs look sensationless.

2. Who the fuck would ever sign up for a microdick? Not a penis-owner but having a microdick must be eternally mortifying. Like a guy who gets his dick blown off in a war, that's sad but people aren't going to think less of you. Microdick men, every time you drop trou, you know the other person's going to cringe. Who wants junk that's going to make the other person cringe?

 

[Otterly]

I would agree, and my thinking is that maybe taking testosterone also has something to do with it, maybe making them more predatory in the male/mtf way due to the fact it's fucking up their femaleness on the hormonal level. just a thought and I totally don't know if this could actually be it. but I've heard tifs remark that testosterone made them angrier and unable to cry, as well as hornier or more after the "coom", as you all say...

I don’t know if you’re in the uk too, but have you noticed the marketing push for testosterone for menopausal women in the press? There’s been a huge amount of ‘raising awareness’ of how dreadful the change is and how we must all be drugged up to deal with it, and here’s davina McCall putting t gel on. It feels like an infomercial for pharma.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Im so frustrated that months & months, my dick is still bigger than Before my first debulk. I have a hard time registering it as being a dick or my dick at times, mostly due to the size. When i pictured myself with a dick, it was always more in the large flaccid size. My dick's girth right now is huge even by erect standards."

Her horror sausage got bigger because she gained lots of weight. If you get a stomach schlong then you shouldn't become a morbidly obese hog.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

2. Who the fuck would ever sign up for a microdick? Not a penis-owner but having a microdick must be eternally mortifying. Like a guy who gets his dick blown off in a war, that's sad but people aren't going to think less of you. Microdick men, every time you drop trou, you know the other person's going to cringe. Who wants junk that's going to make the other person cringe?

what's funny is they advertise meta as "being able to get erect and penetrate like any other penis". I'm sure their partners agree that the mangled hanging 2.5" clit totally functions like a real penis.

 

[Ish Kabibble]

Her horror sausage got bigger because she gained lots of weight. If you get a stomach schlong then you shouldn't become a morbidly obese hog.

Huh, never thought about that...bet she didn't either!! Wonder just how big it could potentially get...

 

[batteredpancakes]

Yucca's gone and deleted her posts and comments as well.

Hey Yucca,
You seem like a decent person so I really hope you come to your senses soon and live a good life. It's not too late for you, you can get rid of your phallus and get therapy just like stumpdick did. You will never be a man and you need to come to terms with this. That skintag on your crotch is not a dick, it won't make you happy. It will not solve your problems. You need to figure this out before you dig yourself into too deep a hole and ruin your life permanently.

People are getting more and more sick of transpeople every year. Peoples' attitude towards you will not get better, it will get worse and worse. I know you're probably thinking everyone here is an alt-right conservative but me and many other people here were originally leftists who were okay with trans people but became jaded after seeing and hearing all the issues that plague your kind. These threads are getting more populated with left-leaning progressives everyday because everyone is sick of trans-peoples' shit.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Yucca's gone and deleted her posts and comments as well.

Hey Yucca,
You seem like a decent person

Press [x] to doubt. I could go out on a limb and state that anyone who's deranged enough to have their arm flayed and repurposed into a rotdog is automatically disqualified from being a decent anything, but maybe I'm just old and jaded?

On another note, I found this hilarious amhole where the fuck-pocket is hovering on its own a full inch (or more) below the "labia":

Spoiler: Say hi to the free-floating amhole, people!

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[Charlie Delicious]

Here's a r/FTMMen post that's really bothered me
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I’ve been on T for about 3+ years now. I am not ungrateful but I don’t know how to keep going. I don’t want to be trans. I hate the way I don’t have a penis or a flat fucking chest. I can’t just hook up with girls. I’m never actually seen as a guy. As soon as you state you’re trans everyone treats you differently. I hate being trans. I can go on and on but there’s just no point. I don’t know who to reach out to anymore. I’m just sick to my stomach knowing this is the rest of my life. I know there’s more to life than just my gender identity but i don’t want this. I can’t stand being trapped anymore.

Now, the issue here isn't OP's post; but the comments
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Celestial_Ceramic: Are you not able to pursue getting top or bottom surgery?

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OP: I am trying to get top surgery atm. But surgeries ain’t gonna fix this​

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Ollievonb02: It will at least solve some of the issues​

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OP: It’s feels like it’s just a temporary fix. I just want to be comfortable in a biological body​

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Ollievonb02: Why do you see it as a temporary fix?​

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Ratwater (prevalent TiF on r/phallo): Surgeries and hormones change the biology of your body, theyre not gonna revert either​

Unfortunately we only get one body so we gotta make the modifications we can to improve the situation ​

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Celestial_Ceramic: Everyone does​

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TiFs actively pushing surgeries on a TiF who doesn't want to rely on surgeries to make her feel better. Ratwater actually says that your biology changes if you get surgery.
It's like observing a drug addict convincing someone to try drugs.

Ratwater's being particularly shitty as she's one of the unfortunate bastards that got convinced into having delayed abdominal with the butcher Cetrulo. She's miserable.
Here's a post where she defends Cetrulo despite hearing the suffering of others

Last I checked Ratwater was 60 pounds heavier than pre-T; Her phallus is huge ( 8.5" in girth ); had scar contraction; struggles to see it as a "penis"; has/had fistulas, etc.
Here's a quote from her:

"Im so frustrated that months & months, my dick is still bigger than Before my first debulk. I have a hard time registering it as being a dick or my dick at times, mostly due to the size. When i pictured myself with a dick, it was always more in the large flaccid size. My dick's girth right now is huge even by erect standards."​

How is this not seen as homophobic?

She wants to date women.
Let her just be a lesbian!

 

[monstrous bubo]

Press [x] to doubt. I could go out on a limb and state that anyone who's deranged enough to have their arm flayed and repurposed into a rotdog is automatically disqualified from being a decent anything, but maybe I'm just old and jaded?

On another note, I found this hilarious amhole where the fuck-pocket is hovering on its own a full inch (or more) below the "labia":

Spoiler: Say hi to the free-floating amhole, people!

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Reddit - Dive into anything

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“My ob/gyn says it looks so real!”

 

[batteredpancakes]

Here's an interesting rant from a post-op TiM who is angry at people disliking neovaginas.
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Sex as a post-op trans woman and the mental aspect

I refuse to believe that all the men who have penetrated me and ejaculated inside of me felt a difference. I just don't buy it. I refuse to believe that a man's penis has a brain of its own or X-rays and is able to tell that mine is a neovagina and not a natal vagina. Yet, there is a crusade against SRS. I have no experience with SRS for trans men, so I apologize in advance. My experience is solely attributable to SRS for trans women.

Everywhere you read that a neovagina is in no way similar to a cis vagina. I am sure that if we dissected a neovagina and performed a histological examination, there would be differences with a cis vagina. But I do not care. The purely functional, practical, and utilitarian differences are non-existent if they do a good job. It looks good, it feels good, it has resolved my genital dysphoria.

Everyone on Twitter and Facebook says that a man's penis is able to tell that it is not "a real vagina." And that when a penis enters a neovagina, it feels like drywall or expanded polystyrene. Bullshit. Men can ejaculate even by sticking it in a hole, and you want me to believe that a penis doesn't feel good in a neovagina? Give me a fucking break. Of course transphobes are gonna fearmonger. Duh! They want us dead.

My vagina looks very realistic. I have amazing orgasms. I have been able to accommodate large penises. Every single man who has penetrated me has ejaculated. So, that means that it felt good. I can contract and release (this is super important because transphobes say that a neovagina is just a hole with no contraction).

No, I do not have to dilate daily. No, there is no fecal matter coming out of my vagina. No, there are no maggots. No, my vagina doesn't spit hairballs like kitties. No, my vagina is not placed just below the belly button. You have no idea how disgusting and nasty the stuff I have to read is. Every single day I come across posts demonizing neovaginas. These people are mentally ill. They obsess over our genitals.

Now, what I do know is that for men, the mental aspect is paramount. I no longer disclose. When I used to disclose, I can totally see that men would feel or hear or see things that were not even there. Like one guy I disclosed to said that he could feel with his penis hitting against testicles inside of my vagina. Of course, I smacked him and ripped him apart because he was full of shit. He made shit up. There aren't testicles in my vagina, but be careful. It just goes to show how important the mental aspect is. Now that I no longer disclose, men enjoy it and always want to come back for more.

Okay, now I want someone to explain to me why is everybody eager to hear me saying that I regret "chopping off my dick." Like, when I have to disclose in medical settings, the doctors want me to say that I regret it, and I don't. He/she is very disappointed when I say I don't regret it. This is kind of like the broken-arm syndrome. I had a slight shoulder injury while lifting weights, and an orthopedist asked me if I regretted it.

I promise you, I swear on my life, I swear on my furbabies that I have never regretted having the operation. I know people like to believe that I regret, but I don’t.

Clearly an HSTS. Even an AGP wouldn't be this dumb regarding vaginas.
I've noticed he's posted some more rants. He seems very jaded and unhappy.
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Being pre-op, post-op, and then stealth

I saw it all. What I am about to say is going to be very controversial, but this is my experience. Are you ready? You are not gonna like it.

Believe it or not, when you are a trans woman and you have a dick, you have more opportunities. Men will fetishize you. They will never marry you, they will never love you, but they will seek you out for sex. With a penis, you are more easily categorizable because men like natural genitalia

Post-op? Forget it. A post-op trans woman is seen as grotesque and uncanny. No matter how realistic a neovagina looks, it's not a vagina to men. Trust me, mine is very realistic. Post-op trans women evoke visceral and atavistic disgust more than pre-op ones. The most hated category on Earth is post-op trans women. People like to say all kind of horrific things, for example they say that fecal matter comes out of a neovagina (that is a lie, of course).

Now, for me, the only solution has been going stealth. Period. It's absolutely crazy and delusional to believe that a man, even the filthiest loser, could fall in love with a surgical pocket of scrotal skin. I am sorry, but that is how they envision a trans woman's vagina. Unless they do not know. The only solution is to never disclose and become an expert in the art of mindfuckery.

Remember that society hates us with a passion. They sadistically enjoy to rip us apart. They do not want us happy. There is no magical mechanism, there is no pheromone bullshit, all you have to do is look as convincing as possible and choose a good surgeon. However, transphobes claim that even the most convincing trans woman won't be able to maintain the attraction of a straight man. Bullshit. Again, look as convincing as possible, and never disclose.

I have had satisfying relationships with heterosexual men ONLY once I have decided to never mention my transness anymore. Before that, I was stupid and naive. I see all these people online claiming that there are plenty of men willing to date post-op trans women. That's a fucking lie. Even if these men exist, there is an infinitesimally small chance. And are you gonna be attracted to them? And are they going to be truly attracted to you? Or they are just experimenting. I also hate when people suggest to date a trans man, as if I could decide whom I am going to be attracted to.

I do not like lying, but I have no choice. I will continue going out with men. I deserve to see the spark in their eyes, I deserve flowers, I deserve gifts. I deserve to ride in their BMWs and Mercedes. I do not want to feel dirty. Am I entitled? Fuck yeah! I do not want someone who accepts me. Fuck that shit. Acceptance presupposes a level of defectiveness. And if God forbid, these men say something about me being trans, not only will I make a monumental scene, but I will also vehemently deny and I will ghost them forever. Because, at that point, a spell would be inexorably broken. Knock on wood, since I have made certain changes, this has never happened. If it happens, I am ready.

If I disclose my trans status to a man, no matter how good I look and no matter how open-minded he is, he will always see me as a cheap knockoff bought on AliExpress. This is unfair. I have suffered too much. He will see things that are not even there. In his eyes, the ugliest and most repugnant of cis women will be more authentic and better than me. No, I won't disclose. I am lucky to have that option even though I am far from perfect.

You do not even need to be attractive. You can be a 4 or a 5 and men will flock to you as long as they believe you are a real woman. Their entire perception changes after I disclose. Please do not believe what you read online. 90% of what you read about trans issues are plain lies

At a certain point, I thought I could have had a polyamorous situationship with a man who knew about my past, but I now realize even that is impossible. It's an imprinting thing, it's not even men’s fault. It's like with stepchildren.

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Can we please STOP saying that men who don't want to date trans women are transphobic?

It's so frustrating. It's impossible to have an honest conversation in trans circles. I am a post-op trans woman. I get it. It hurts. You have no idea how many days and nights I have spent crying. Feeling unwanted and defective is terrible. I was lucky enough to be able to go stealth, and my dating prospects have changed completely since I stopped disclosing. I am not bragging, but we need to stop saying that men who don't want to date us are transphobic. No, they are simply not attracted. A lot of men will respect us, will recognize our plight and our humanity, they will vote for our rights, but they won't date us. They are not transphobic. We cannot switch our attraction on and off, otherwise a lot of gay men could simply be attracted to women.

When I used to disclose, I met a few men and there was chemistry there. They were enamored with me, they liked me, we finished each other's sentence. By the 3rd or 4th date, I would disclose, and they would immediately cease to be attracted to me. It is not their fault. It makes me cry, it hurts me when I think about it, it eats me alive, but it is NOT their fault. No, they were not transphobic, in fact they were all supportive, they all said they felt bad for me, they never misgendered me, they were super kind. But they were no longer attracted to me. Stop, please stop being naive. . Some of these men friendzoned me and they truly liked me as a human being, but I couldn't stay in touch with them. It was too painful. They were no longer attracted to me.

Trans circles are important to support each other, but they become echo chambers.

I do not understand people who say, "oh he is a jerk for rejecting a woman just because she is trans." Are you kidding me? Just because she is trans? It's a huge, enormous, unfathomable deal for cis people. We get used to being trans, and it's normalcy for us, but for cis people there is nothing more unsettling. Blah blah blah, there are exceptions, your cousin from Minnesota is trans and she is happily married, I get it, but statistically speaking? It's not like having an exotic accent or having stretch marks. Come on now. They can't stop thinking about the fact that we used to have a dick (sorry for FtMs, I have no experience in that arena, but I would think it's similar). No matter how hard they try, they just cannot regard us as suitable dating partners.

I don't know about you, but I am in my 30s and I have dated many men and they all ghosted me or friendzoned me after I disclosed. Lo and behold, I stopped disclosing, and now I am in a relationship. Do I like omitting? Hell no, but I have no other choice. Before anybody says it was my shitty personality. You can have the best personality in the world, most cis men will reject you once they find out you are trans. Why am I getting downvoted and attacked?

Now, I see people saying, "why would you want to be with someone who is not okay with you being trans?" Do I have a fucking choice? Can I turn on and off my attraction automatically? Do I have to find a needle in the haystack and then what? is he really gonna be attracted to me? Am I gonna be attracted to him? Being trans is a medical issue. It is not something I am proud of. No, it's not internalized transphobia. Let's suppose I meet Joe, I love Joe a lot, I feel the butterflies in my stomach, there is chemistry, everything is perfect... then I have to completely eradicate Joe from my memory and cease to be in love with him because he wanted a "real woman"?

Lots of great quotes:

• "one guy I disclosed to said that he could feel with his penis hitting against testicles inside of my vagina. Of course, I smacked him and ripped him apart because he was full of shit.
• "It's absolutely crazy and delusional to believe that a man, even the filthiest loser, could fall in love with a surgical pocket of scrotal skin. I am sorry, but that is how they envision a trans woman's vagina. Unless they do not know. The only solution is to never disclose and become an expert in the art of mindfuckery."
• "A post-op trans woman is seen as grotesque and uncanny. No matter how realistic a neovagina looks, it's not a vagina to men. Trust me, mine is very realistic. Post-op trans women evoke visceral and atavistic disgust more than pre-op ones."
• "In his eyes, the ugliest and most repugnant of cis women will be more authentic and better than me."
• "When I used to disclose, I met a few men and there was chemistry there. They were enamored with me, they liked me, we finished each other's sentence. By the 3rd or 4th date, I would disclose, and they would immediately cease to be attracted to me. "
• "I will continue going out with men. I deserve to see the spark in their eyes, I deserve flowers, I deserve gifts. I deserve to ride in their BMWs and Mercedes."

That last quote really shows what he thinks of woman. He's an entitled narcissistic gay man who feels deserving of straight men.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

How is this not seen as homophobic?

She wants to date women.
Let her just be a lesbian!

She isn't a lesbian though. She doesn't simply desire other women. She wants to be with a woman as a man. A man is not a woman. Men relate to women in a completely different way from how women relate to each other. She doesn't want the kind of relating two lesbians do to each other. She wants the kind a man does to a woman. Now, this is impossible. But it's no more insane than wanting to play house with another lady, buy a guy's jizz, and tell the resulting kid he has "two mommies." While whining that anyone who gestures at the gaps in this setup is just a "homophobe." These are two completely different insane things, though. Her problems would not be solved by jumping into the other insane lifestyle. Her problems can only be solved by fully accepting that her fantasy of living like a real guy is completely impossible.

 

[Lady Farishta]

"Duh! They want us dead."

I am so sick of this mentality! I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't just want all the trannies dead. I just want them to stop poisoning society with their BS. They jump to the conclusion that if you don't like what they do and promote that means you wish them death. Any criticism = deathwish. I honestly, sincerely do not wish them death. I just wish they would stop pushing this evil trans movement on society.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

@batteredpancakes, this was the one that stood out to me.

"No, I do not have to dilate daily. No, there is no fecal matter coming out of my vagina. No, there are no maggots. No, my vagina doesn't spit hairballs like kitties. No, my vagina is not placed just below the belly button. You have no idea how disgusting and nasty the stuff I have to read is."

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

These are two completely different insane things, though. Her problems would not be solved by jumping into the other insane lifestyle.

Insane lifestyle? Explain what lesbian behavior seems insane to you.