Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

@batteredpancakes
Your pull-quotes tell a story, but they omit some things: that person is 100% aware they are not a woman, and is 100% aware and accepting of the fact that because they are trans, some men will be turned way, permanently off.

"I do not understand people who say, "oh he is a jerk for rejecting a woman just because she is trans." Are you kidding me? Just because she is trans? It's a huge, enormous, unfathomable deal for cis people. We get used to being trans, and it's normalcy for us, but for cis people there is nothing more unsettling."

Now, having re-read the pieces you clipped, I see that this person is using the above as a rationalization for not disclosing, which is utter bullshit.

But that person does seem to understand that there is a distinction between born women and trans-women, so I guess not the worst?

"I would disclose, and they would immediately cease to be attracted to me. It is not their fault. It makes me cry, it hurts me when I think about it, it eats me alive, but it is NOT their fault. No, they were not transphobic, in fact they were all supportive, they all said they felt bad for me, they never misgendered me, they were super kind. But they were no longer attracted to me. Stop, please stop being naive."
(emphasis mine)

Again, I think the "I'm not going to disclose" thing is immoral (and also headed for disaster even though they are aiming to be pragmatic), but at least they are not insisting that men who say no to trans are horrible or deluded or stupid or whatever.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Insane lifestyle? Explain what lesbian behavior seems insane to you.

It's the BPD and domestic violence, mainly, but to get into it would be a different thread.

 

[Lady Farishta]

It's the BPD and domestic violence, mainly, but to get into it would be a different thread.

interest piqued

 

[batteredpancakes]

Your pull-quotes tell a story, but they omit some things:

I wasn't trying to tell a story. It's just my favorite quotes.

that person is 100% aware they are not a woman, and is 100% aware and accepting of the fact that because they are trans, some men will be turned way, permanently off.

He's says this but doesn't actually believe it as he's exhibiting plenty of cognitive dissonance. Why does he go after straight men? He knows these men only want woman, why does he go after them? Why does he lie and say he's a woman? This thinking means nothing if it doesn't reflect in his actions.

If a non-duck looks like a duck, says it's a duck, acts like a duck; then it doesn't matter if it's secretly aware it's not a duck. It's trying to be a duck regardless, there's no observable change to others.

But that person does seem to understand that there is a distinction between born women and trans-women, so I guess not the worst?

Your bar is too low. Defending him and saying he's 'not the worst' because he says people shouldn't call straight men transphobic when he's going around sexually assaulting men is silly.

at least they are not insisting that men who say no to trans are horrible

Those men are probably disgusted they accidentally fucked a guy, having the man that did that say they're not transphobic is not a reward. Don't act like they should thank him for his selfless generosity in not destroying their reputation.

 

[Map-Kinase-Kinase-Kinase]

Those men are probably disgusted they accidentally fucked a guy, having the man that did that say they're not transphobic is not a reward. Don't act like they should thank him for his selfless generosity in not destroying their reputation violating their autonomy.

FTFY

 

[batteredpancakes]

Porn-brained transbian that chopped his dick off has posted a cope post.

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mtf post-op sex advice/breakthroughs?

im 9 months post-op from bluebond-langner and honestly im a little sexually frustrated, its hard starting with sex knowledge back at zero. i wasnt 100% dysphoric with sex pre-op (if anything it was the one time i could be sort of ish okay with my parts) so that adds to the feeling of frustration when i look back at what I gave up, though i know thats a "grass is greener" thing. i come WAAAY harder and longer in succession now and I love getting fucked by my girlfriend's strap-on, so I think actual sensation is fine in terms of clit and gspot, and even with no further improvement it'd be 10 steps above pre-op, like im in my 20s and i could very happily keep living my whole life like this. after all, cis lesbians basically do this same stuff and have fulfilling sex lives too! but i still feel like im around the corner from actually figuring things out. you know how your first time is meh but then sex gets really good after some learning? kind of like that but part 2

i am a little disappointed that the clit being covered sort of means that compared to pre-op, even being naked pressed against my girlfriend's body, things down there tend to feel somehow "duller" almost like im doing stuff through clothes which is a little sad for my emotionally-intimate-sex loving ass, though this could be from me still healing also, i never really liked having the glans touched pre-op and usually preferred the feeling of the shaft being stroked for example. so im a little sad that feeling isnt really there anymore and that i basically have to rely on using a vibrator on the clitoral hood in the end each time, as I thought I would have at least some more sensation from the actual vagina aside from the gspot and clit, which itself is a bit oversensitive for direct touch/oral as the glans used to be. idk what i expected in these regards or if they even occurred to me at any point beyond "things will work out" so idk maybe someone else will find this helpful.

overall though im so happy with surgery, I love getting to finally bottom as someone with no interest in anal, and the relief is wonderful, but im not here looking for help about all the good parts yknow? but if i had been more on the side of "i just want a vagina" and less so "i want to ditch the penis", i might have preferred penile-preserving SRS for the convenience of working with what you're used to and it being less work to get off. maybe just me, but personally it was definitely a trade off of a couple minor sexual positives in exchange for getting rid of all non-sexual bottom dysphoria

im not sure ive ever seen posts about this, so im wondering if anyone has ever had any similar experiences at all? most seem to have no complaints with their results, and i personally have no regrets even with my "complaints", but of course wanna see if the internet has any ideas for making it even better do you guys have any tips for favorite toys or techniques to try? ofc I have a magic wand and some simple smooth dildos, but wondering if anyone has any other suggestions for toys/moves to try that really worked for them or changed the game

Looks like he has a few regret posts. This one's title made me laugh.
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any post-op people occasionally miss their old parts? (but like not in a regret way)

shoo transphobes, surgery has been epic for me and sensation and orgasms are great too

post-op trans girl here. I occasionally miss the simplicity and intimacy of how piv sex used to be, especially these few months I've had to heal and re-figure out how to have loving intimacy with my girlfriend again with my new parts. Especially when I was first really sexually frustrated figuring out how to get off, I think that made me miss the old convenience even if that ignored all the dysphoria I used to deal with and all the new benefits like wearing whatever I want! I love getting to wear a bikini!

it's easy to look at what you've lost during such a vulnerable time instead focusing on the positives, yknow, since I've almost forgotten how bad my dysphoria used to be. Like, I used to cry after sex sometimes when dysphoric about my parts and rationally I know that, but when I can now take longer to come or be too sensitive since I'm still healing when my girlfriend wants to go down on me, it's easy to feel bad and miss how simple it used to be even if that old dysphoria is totally gone! also even if i hated my parts 95% of the time, being inside my girlfriend rocked and felt intimate enough that I really enjoyed it for love reasons

life is really good now, but ive been struggling a bit with intrusive thoughts of guilt and anxiety about not being literally 200% positive about surgery, even though I know the triggers for those are probably just things that still have yet to finish healing and the drain of dilating I would absolutely do surgery all over again, but anyone have any sort of similar experience with that bittersweetness + adjustment period? it's a major surgery so it makes sense but just need a sanity check here

 

[Invincible Wheel]

Insane lifestyle? Explain what lesbian behavior seems insane to you.

beet gf lol

 

[Otterly]

when a penis enters a neovagina, it feels like drywall
Tell me you’re a man, by using only metaphor. This is the most male comparison you could ever come up with. But you’re a woman sure. I mean you’re arguing that men will fuck absolutely anything and that a wet hole is a wet hole, but you’re absolutely, definitely a woman. Drywall, for goodness sake.

 

[Slur Generator]

when a penis enters a neovagina, it feels like drywall
Tell me you’re a man, by using only metaphor. This is the most male comparison you could ever come up with. But you’re a woman sure. I mean you’re arguing that men will fuck absolutely anything and that a wet hole is a wet hole, but you’re absolutely, definitely a woman. Drywall, for goodness sake.

Men would fuck almost anything except a stinkditch. Straight men don't want to fuck a man and gay men don't want to fuck a open wound. Men that would fuck a tranny are as insane as the tranny themselves.

 

[Piss Bear]

Why does he go after straight men? He knows these men only want woman, why does he go after them? Why does he lie and say he's a woman? This thinking means nothing if it doesn't reflect in his actions.

Well, because there is literally no category of person interested in fucking a surgically-created "scrotum pocket" like he described it himself. Once you inflict one of these genital mutilation surgeries on yourself, you essentially remove yourself from the dating world entirely. There are fetishises for almost everything you can think of, but I have not once seen someone express interest in a neovagina or a neophallus, besides another mentally deranged troon.

The only type of person I could think of that would be interested sexually in this type of thing is a sexual-sadist, or maybe a necrophile? I don't know, but whatever type of person who would be into this is far worse than the "tranny chaser" these people talk so much shit about.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes, as they say.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Again, I think the "I'm not going to disclose" thing is immoral (and also headed for disaster even though they are aiming to be pragmatic), but at least they are not insisting that men who say no to trans are horrible or deluded or stupid or whatever.

See this is how these dumb freaks end up getting themselves beaten or killed.
It just takes him doing this to the wrong guy and getting caught and he's asking to get beaten half to death. And it might be a spicy take but I can't even say a troon that gets beaten because of this shit doesn't deserve it. Play stupid games/you get what you fucking deserve etc.
I have more sympathy for the guy who could end up on a charge and ruining their life for raging out and kerb stomping the freak than I do a tranny that gets caught trying to trick someone into homosexual sex and gets stomped for it.
He says himself people just don't want to fuck gross trannies, and if he disclosed what he was they would bolt, so he just doesn't tell them (despite the fact I'm about 99% sure they know and are just chasers or are somehow able to convince themselves its ok if its not actually spoken about and revealed out in the open, theres no way these people can fuck a troon without knowing) denying them any autonomy.
He can make whatever justification he wants, but the reason troons doing this deserve any consequences is at the end of the day they make a decision that their lust for the coom is worth more than their victims right to consent.

 

[Peaches Demure]

This one is its own brand of hilarious and tragic.

A troon who literally looks like Lurch wants to show off his hair transplant as well as a digitally altered picture of himself depicting what he might look like after FFS:

Before:

...and after. You see the difference? No? Me neither.

And here's the profile view:

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[Slur Generator]

This one is its own brand of hilarious and tragic.

A troon who literally looks like Lurch wants to show off his hair transplant as well as a digitally altered picture of himself depicting what he might look like after FFS:

Before:

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...and after. You see the difference? No? Me neither.

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And here's the profile view:

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the adam apple and eyebags i think. Can they not fix the underbite ?

 

[Procrastinhater]

This one is its own brand of hilarious and tragic.

A troon who literally looks like Lurch wants to show off his hair transplant as well as a digitally altered picture of himself depicting what he might look like after FFS:

Before:

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...and after. You see the difference? No? Me neither.

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And here's the profile view:

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Christ he looks like fucking Riff Raff from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

 

[TerranTony98]

With some quick googling I've found that only a guesstimated 50,000 lobotomies were ever preformed in the United States.

Yet today it's averaged that 1.6 Million Americans above the age of 13 identify themselves as 'Trans'.

Thats 1.6 Million people convinced that they need to be working towards sterilizing, stunting, and mutilating their own bodies. From more quick searching it seems 25% actually go through with some form of gender conforming surgery upwards to 35% depending on the report.

That's just the cosmetic surgery! I haven't even looked into how many people poison themselves with hormone replacements.

and we all know the 41% statistic. If these people didn't look and act so stupid I'd be weeping!

 

[SpaceAce]

Celestial_Ceramic: Are you not able to pursue getting top or bottom surgery?

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OP: I am trying to get top surgery atm. But surgeries ain’t gonna fix this​

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Ollievonb02: It will at least solve some of the issues​

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OP: It’s feels like it’s just a temporary fix. I just want to be comfortable in a biological body​

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Ollievonb02: Why do you see it as a temporary fix?​

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Ratwater (prevalent TiF on r/phallo): Surgeries and hormones change the biology of your body, theyre not gonna revert either​

Unfortunately we only get one body so we gotta make the modifications we can to improve the situation ​

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Celestial_Ceramic: Everyone does​

You're right this exchange is maddening.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but "You only get one body" so the logic should be to learn to love that body, not chop it up, stitch it back together and then learn to love the results.
I know that doesn't need to be said here, but I needed to write that out anyway.

Imagine though "You won't be happier, but now you can be miserable AND possibly use a catheter for the rest of your life!"
What a sell!

@batteredpancakes, this was the one that stood out to me.

"No, I do not have to dilate daily. No, there is no fecal matter coming out of my vagina. No, there are no maggots. No, my vagina doesn't spit hairballs like kitties. No, my vagina is not placed just below the belly button. You have no idea how disgusting and nasty the stuff I have to read is."

I really don't understand how they can post things like this on the subreddits where people complain of those exact issues and still claim its all anti-trans propaganda. I'm certain we could dig up quotes from post ops complaining of all these issues (maybe not the maggots, I'm not sure I've heard that one before).

I'm reminded of a tape from Jonestown (the ill-fated compound in Guyana run by the charismatic "Socialist Preacher God Jim Jones" that ended in mass suicide) where they're practicing what they'll say to reporters and officials who were coming to check on the state of the camp.
Jones is playing the part of the reporter and asking his followers about rumours of people being locked in boxes and left in the sun, of beatings and starvation. When a follower doesn't deny the accusations hard enough Jones starts saying he should answer "Hell no!" and going on about how ridiculous and inhumane it would be if they did those things, how they're above all that and how Jones loves them and how well and happy they all are.
But those things were happening. And the very people who are cheering and agreeing with Jones as he tells them none of this is happening and how cruel it would be are not only witnesses to it, but subjected to it.
Listening to that exchange is the closest I've ever come to believing in brain washing.

And although they don't have a direct leader, just this ideology, I can see these outspoken MTFs with the same tone Jones had, admonishing them for not screaming the denials to the horror they're living loud enough so that the outside world still believes they can have sex and enjoy it, that there's no hair or smell and that those fistulas never cause literal shit to drain out of them.
Jones was making bank though, and got to play God to a group who worshipped him. I don't know what these guys get out of spreading their misery and preaching their gospel.

But here we have two, the FTM in the first quote and the MTF in the second urging converts forward simply because misery loves company I suppose, and to normalize their own suffering. I wonder if the false validation from others does ease the pain and give them hope that "Okay, THEY said it gets better, so maybe there's still a chance it will for me." even though they know its a lie.
Any port in a storm I suppose.

 

[Procrastinhater]

With some quick googling I've found that only a guesstimated 50,000 lobotomies were ever preformed in the United States.

Yet today it's averaged that 1.6 Million Americans above the age of 13 identify themselves as 'Trans'.

Thats 1.6 Million people convinced that they need to be working towards sterilizing, stunting, and mutilating their own bodies. From more quick searching it seems 25% actually go through with some form of gender conforming surgery upwards to 35% depending on the report.

That's just the cosmetic surgery! I haven't even looked into how many people poison themselves with hormone replacements.

and we all know the 41% statistic. If these people didn't look and act so stupid I'd be weeping!

The sheer amount of these faggots proves the 41% statistic is horseshit. If theres 1.6 million of these deranged faggots, and almost half of those try to rope, if even a small percentage succeeded the death toll would be in the thousands, and the statistics just dont bare it out.
That stat is used by them to try to guilt trip people into playing along with their fetish, and by ideologue surgeons playing the "dead son or live daughter" shit on parents.

 

[TerranTony98]

The sheer amount of these faggots proves the 41% statistic is horseshit. If theres 1.6 million of these deranged faggots, and almost half of those try to rope, if even a small percentage succeeded the death toll would be in the thousands, and the statistics just dont bare it out.
That stat is used by them to try to guilt trip people into playing along with their fetish, and by ideologue surgeons playing the "dead son or live daughter" shit on parents.

Looking into it I think you're right. The stat seems all over the place or it's speculative figures. If the 41% stat is attempted suicide and not successful that still makes up half the nations annual total for all attempts which is ridiculous.

 

[GloriousScarf]

"Duh! They want us dead."

I am so sick of this mentality! I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't just want all the trannies dead. I just want them to stop poisoning society with their BS. They jump to the conclusion that if you don't like what they do and promote that means you wish them death. Any criticism = deathwish. I honestly, sincerely do not wish them death. I just wish they would stop pushing this evil trans movement on society.

Don't worry, they know it's bullshit too. They just drag out that "you want us dead" BS to shut down any debate, so now you're focused on reassuring them you don't want them dead instead of the original topic.

 

[weirdwound]

I used to look at the weird stuff on BMEzine and trans surgeries are nothing but destructive irresponsible body mods.