MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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If it is a constitutional right, then it — like every other constitutional right — is subject to reasonable regulations. And what people have done with that decision is to take it as far as they possibly can and reject what has been our history from the very beginning of the republic, where some of the earliest laws that were passed were about firearms. So I think it's important to recognize that reasonable people can say, as I do, responsible gun owners have a right. I have no objection to that. But the rest of the American public has a right to require certain kinds of regulatory, responsible actions to protect everyone else.

- Hillary Clinton, June 5th, 2016

Mother of Christ, this is even worse than @Tranhuviya implied. She should have only the hottest and rottenest plantmatter thrown at her noggin for this.

Why does her only remaining opponent have to hold just as little regard for the constitution?
 
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Tranhuviya said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...avers-on-second-amendment-right-to-bear-arms/

Regardless of whether you think the 2nd Amendment causes problems, I think it should stay.
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No part in her comments does she discuss throwing out the Second Amendment, just that there should be an ability for the federal and state governments to regulate it more if they so please, which was something that was something completely legal as recent as 2010. The issue goes back to a couple of recent 5-4 Supreme Court decisions, first the 2008 DC vs Heller decision, which heavily limited the ability of government to regulate firearms in federal enclaves, which was in turn extended to the rest of the states in 2010 McDonald vs Chicago. The rulings were based on the passage from the Second Amendment, where in, before it states the right to bear arms, first mentions that that the right exists in order to have a 'well regulated militia.' The decisions effectively ruled that the references to a militia in the document are completely irrelevant, and that everyone has the right to bear arms without requiring militia affiliation, regardless of the fact that the Second Amendment expressly mentions that the right exists so that there may be militias. Scalia assured everyone he knew what the founders meant when they put in that condition in the Constitution, and that it was all just a :ruse:.

TLDR: She doesn't want to throw out the Second Amendment, she just disagrees with a 2008 and 2010 Supreme Court decisions that heavily limited government's ability to regulate firearms.
 
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If it is a constitutional right, then it — like every other constitutional right — is subject to reasonable regulations. And what people have done with that decision is to take it as far as they possibly can and reject what has been our history from the very beginning of the republic, where some of the earliest laws that were passed were about firearms. So I think it's important to recognize that reasonable people can say, as I do, responsible gun owners have a right. I have no objection to that. But the rest of the American public has a right to require certain kinds of regulatory, responsible actions to protect everyone else.

- Hillary Clinton, June 5th, 2016

Mother of Christ, this is even worse than @Tranhuviya implied. She should have only the hottest and rottenest plantmatter thrown at her noggin for this.

Why does her only remaining opponent have to hold just as little regard for the constitution?
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Why are Americans so obsessed with the constitution? I have never understood that, Britain has done just fine without one and most of the Commonwealth only have skeleton constitutions
 
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I've seen a few people say "Now that Bernie's lost, most of his supporters will end up voting for Trump." I'm not sure if they're delusional Trump supporters, or spiteful Hillary supporters.

I have no words except :story: x Infinty.

I'm willing to bet that, as is usual in these situations, despite all the grandstanding, most Sanders supporters will fall in line and vote for Hillary, much like how I imagine many Republicans and other Conservatives who might not have voted Trump (either they would not have voted or would have voted for Gary Johnson or something) will now vote for him out of fear of a Clinton presidency. Not that I think they would've liked a Sanders presidency, but the vehement hatred I've seen a lot of Conservatives express for Clinton will probably galvanize them.

I'm very curious how low voter turn out will be for this election, and what percentage of the vote Johnson and Stein will receive.

Honestly, I think Trump and Clinton might be the perfect candidates to make sure everyone falls in line with their party, unfortunately. "Do you REALLY want to see President Trump/President Hillary Clinton!?" is a pretty scary thought for a lot of people.
 
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They did a poll on Sanders supporters recently and found 60-70% of them would vote for Clinton, 20% would sit out the election, and only around 10-15% would vote for Trump
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It's also worth remembering that nearly half of Clinton supporters this time im 2008 said they wouldn't vote for Obama, and would sit out, go third party, or vote McCain.

In the end I agree they'll mostly go the way of NeverTrump, especially if Clinton is respectful of Sanders and gives him a large speaking slot at the Convention.
 
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I should add that the amount of Sanders -> Clinton support transfer occurs will almost certainly depend on how she treats Sanders from this point on. If she's smart (and while I don't like or trust her, I don't think she's actually an idiot), she'll try to buddy up with him a bit, or at least talk about "how much she respects him" and try to get him to offer her vocal support. And, again, considering how polarizing Trump is, it might not be that hard. Ironically a different Republican candidate might be harder to defeat, but so would a different Democratic candidate. It's Schrodinger's Election. Everyone hates both candidates so much they might actually end up voting for one of them.
 
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Well, yeah, I'm assuming Sanders is gonna play ball, IIRC he already said he agrees that beating Trump is the most important thing, so I'm assuming he will.

I worry about his supporters, though. I count myself among them, but I'm not so batshit irrational as to throw a public temper tantrum that he's not the nominee. I do think there was some shady shit going on at some points during the primary, and it's soured me to the party a bit, but Hillary's won by enough of a margin that I don't think it would've mattered anyway. I'd hoped he'd be the nominee, but I hadn't expected it. I've never considered myself a die-hard Democrat anyway.

I would argue that even if the Sanders supporters are shitty, Clinton should try to be conciliatory, the reason being that she can very easily say "Look, see? I tried to be reasonable with them and they're still being stupid little shits" which will probably help shore her up with people who are more ambivalent. I'm not saying she should kowtow, but it'd be nice to see someone being the bigger person in this shitshow. She'll face a much more daunting struggle in the general election if she can't win over a good chunk of the Bernie people.
 
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I would argue that even if the Sanders supporters are shitty, Clinton should try to be conciliatory, the reason being that she can very easily say "Look, see? I tried to be reasonable with them and they're still being stupid little shits" which will probably help shore her up with people who are more ambivalent. I'm not saying she should kowtow, but it'd be nice to see someone being the bigger person in this shitshow. She'll face a much more daunting struggle in the general election if she can't win over a good chunk of the Bernie people.
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Until fairly recently, this hasn't been all that bitter a primary. Obama vs. Clinton was a lot nastier and even got overtly sexist and racist, with both sides hurling all kinds of slurs at each other, culminating in the birther bullshit and PUMAs. Even with all that ranting, though, the vast majority came around to vote for the nominee.

Clinton had best not put too much store in the idea that people hate Trump enough to force them to vote for her, though. That's more or less what Kerry did with Dubya in 2004 and he got his ass handed to him. Just not being Trump is not a game winner.
 
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Until fairly recently, this hasn't been all that bitter a primary. Obama vs. Clinton was a lot nastier and even got overtly sexist and racist, with both sides hurling all kinds of slurs at each other, culminating in the birther bullshit and PUMAs. Even with all that ranting, though, the vast majority came around to vote for the nominee.

Clinton had best not put too much store in the idea that people hate Trump enough to force them to vote for her, though. That's more or less what Kerry did with Dubya in 2004 and he got his ass handed to him. Just not being Trump is not a game winner.
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I would agree with this. At the moment, there are many Sanders supporters who have no further interest in participating with the 2016 election--they will not vote one way or the other. However, many could be swayed to voting for Trump if Clinton antagonizes them to such an extent to persuade them to do so. I think Clinton needs to understand that there are people who are not only not afraid of Trump for who he is but hate Clinton for who she is and are only waiting for a reason to go out and outright vote against her.

Clinton must tread a fine line to sway these people into a position with her (or at least not against her).
 
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I'm just saying that that's the best she'll be able to do if Bernie supporters are for whatever reason supremely shitty in this hypothetical scenario where they can't ever be swayed. That said, it'd serve her very well to not get to that point and start trying to win them over ASAP. It's very possible if she's careful and smart about it. Unless she acts completely retarded and actively attempts to alienate them.
 
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Clinton is already fighting a massively uphill battle, and the fact the many Sanders supporters have an utter hatred for her doesn't help either. Her shameless corruption and countless political fumbles makes her one of the easiest targets in political history. It won't be a cakewalk for Trump, but a sustained battle can very well cause Clinton to crumble.
 
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Flamesoul the Diabolical said:
Depending on what happens in the next few months leading up to election day, it's more likely I'll vote for Trump. I don't want to see Clinton become president.
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Clinton has pledged to continue the economic and foreign policies of the Obama administration. How fucking out of touch do you have to be to think those are good selling points? If she continues to be this aloof and ignorant of the political winds even a complete idiot like Trump has a very good chance of becoming the next POTUS.
 
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