Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Except the ukies already played the "negotiation" card away twice in this conflict - signing the minsk agreement in a bad faith and the turkish negotiations, that they used to borrow time.
Putin must be nuts to trust the west to keep to any agreement the moment the russian army gets out of UA.
It was more that the Minsk agreements were unenforceable because neither side could actually implement what was required. For example, one of the terms was for foreign troops and mercenaries to be withdrawn from Ukraine, but Russia had consistently maintained the fiction that it had NO troops in Ukraine. That the little green men and FSB Glowies were purely native to the area. Withdrawing them would be an official admission that they were, in fact Russian troops.

It also needs to be noted that while neither side obeyed the command to pull back Heavy Weapons from the line of Contact, it was the DPR's decision to attack Donetsk Airport, which basically scuppered the entire deal. Sure, up to that point Ukraine was shelling the DPR, but the DPR was also shelling Ukraine. So its hard to say who was doing what, when, and for what reason.

In short, the Minsk agreements were useless, and were essentially never implemented.
 
It was more that the Minsk agreements were unenforceable because neither side could actually implement what was required. For example, one of the terms was for foreign troops and mercenaries to be withdrawn from Ukraine, but Russia had consistently maintained the fiction that it had NO troops in Ukraine. That the little green men and FSB Glowies were purely native to the area. Withdrawing them would be an official admission that they were, in fact Russian troops.

It also needs to be noted that while neither side obeyed the command to pull back Heavy Weapons from the line of Contact, it was the DPR's decision to attack Donetsk Airport, which basically scuppered the entire deal. Sure, up to that point Ukraine was shelling the DPR, but the DPR was also shelling Ukraine. So its hard to say who was doing what, when, and for what reason.

In short, the Minsk agreements were useless, and were essentially never implemented.
A wild POG appears, was starting to miss your 'like the namesake' opinions.
Fact of the matter is that Poroshenko has gone on record to say he had no intention of enforcing Minsk, and used it to build up his military.
 
Americans, any concerns about your Secretary of Treasury absconding to Ukraine with the remains of said treasury?
What treasury? We're in debt to the tune of "Oh my god, we're fucked." Her job isn't to count or manage how much money America has. Its to make sure the printers run smoothly and print more of the worthless shit.
 
What treasury? We're in debt to the tune of "Oh my god, we're fucked." Her job isn't to count or manage how much money America has. Its to make sure the printers run smoothly and print more of the worthless shit.
I'm sure there's some unaccounted Bitcoin laying around that would go a long way in Ukraine.

Jokes aside, this should be even more concerning to Americans than the weapon shipments.
 
What treasury? We're in debt to the tune of "Oh my god, we're fucked." Her job isn't to count or manage how much money America has. Its to make sure the printers run smoothly and print more of the worthless shit.
Despite the obvious issues, I’d rather live in the United States than any other country.
 
They think this is a Russian L. Guys, you realize that by your own words, Russia has destroyed all the Himars in Ukraine PLUS the decoys?

You'd think this was Russian-paid state propaganda, but no, they're just stupid
This is the most retarded thing I've read in a while... "This report could leave the Russian military red-faced", yes, the brave Reddit army ingeniously coming up with a new strategy to defeat Putler, one that hasn't been used for thousands of years in warfare or anything. And yes, Ruzzia surely sends their most expensive Kinzhals and Oniks missiles to defeat Reddit and NAFO's decoys, I'm sure it never occurred to them to simply use $2000-a-piece 155mm Soviet artillery shells or anything.
It also really cracks me up how narcissistic and self-centered they are to reveal the existence of these decoys, don't think that posting a video like this to own the Ruzzians is gonna make them perhaps take a second, more thorough look at whatever they decide to bomb?
Unbelievable stupidity.
Weeb Union + History Legends coop
Honestly, this video was a bit awkward, WeebUnion kinda fucked up by not preparing enough and choosing a rather boring video with awkward translation, HL didn't seem too impressed.
Unrelated, but does anyone know a good place to get some headcam footage of the war? Or just enjoyable footage? I know liveleak's been dead for a while, as far as I know. Anyone have recommendations?
I'm sorry to disappoint, but this has mostly been an Aerial Reconnaissance/Artillery war, however I recommend looking at Lancet compilation videos on Youtube, there's tons of em and they're pretty kino. 80% of the time it's just equipment being destroyed, so you don't have to feel bad about watching people die.
Young (18-19 y/o?) Buryat soldier (RU) recording his adventures in Ukraine, from the battlefield to fooling around and doing dumb shit hanging with his fellow troops. Cool Buryatian throat-singing pop song included.
(one of the best newest-war-clips channels btw, amalgamates RU telegram war vids)
They say War is Hell™ and all, but videos like this make it seem like a grand time. I hope they didn't encounter unspeakable horrors and everyone in the video made it home to their family safely.
I am mind-broken and buck-broken by this war. Ukraine lives rent free in my head and touching grass hasn’t helped. At least once a day I have to catch up on what’s happening and all it does is drive me mad. Feels bad man.
Just look at it this way, the hilarious salt mining coming from NAFO accounts, Reddit, and all smug MSM talking heads will make up for any psychological damage you incur while following the news.
A thousand times, this.

If you don't understand this sentence and its implications, keep reading it over and over again until you do.

When you achieve illumination, alter your life course accordingly.
I agree with what you said but fuck, why did you have to word it in the most 'yasss slay queen' way possible?
 
Hey guys, remember the time when Ukraine participated in an illegal invasion of another sovereign nation that did not present a threat to Ukraine? Thousands of Ukrainian troops invaded another country, raped and pillaged their way through it, then left the country in a state of ruin that it still haven't recovered from to this day. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

More than 5,000 Ukrainian troops have served in Iraq during Ukraine's five years of service in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
"Enduring peace, stability and prosperity are common values to fight for in the modern world. Your mission in Iraq has been successfully completed," said Viktor Nedopas, Charge d'Affairs of the Ukrainian Embassy in Iraq.
The Ukrainians served as the third-largest Coalition forces contingent in Iraq, with about 1,700 soldiers from 2003-2005.

"We are leaving this place, but Ukrainian color will (still) be represented in the Republic of Iraq. Our Soldiers will continue serving in the NATO training mission, making their contribution into the matter of developing democracy, stabilizing the internal situation in Iraq and providing support to the Iraqi Security Forces," promised Lachkov.
Oof. This one did not age well. How's that stability and democracy in Iraq coming along?

 
I accidentally went to the other Russia War thread to look for news, but it's literally just users REEEEing about this thread. I dunno, this thread seems pretty neutral compared to some of the telegram groups my Balkan friends are in.
I just want the Americandan Synagogue of Satan to die, in hopes that my Norse kin will one day be free of their EU zoggery. If Russia "winning" a regional conflict in any way hurts The Beast, I will "root" for Russia.
 
The obligatory postcard shot
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Just caught a podcast, that Janet Yellen former fed reserve chairman, and current us Treasury secretary has guaranteed another 1.5 billion to Ukraine during a visit to the war torn country.

For a country that is about to default on its debt, Inflation is as bad as the mid 1970's, Personal debt on credit cards is over 1 trillion, is this the right time to be handing out money? Perhaps yes if you intend to disperse gas on a tire fire in a dumpster.
 
Just caught a podcast, that Janet Yellen former fed reserve chairman, and current us Treasury secretary has guaranteed another 1.5 billion to Ukraine during a visit to the war torn country.

For a country that is about to default on its debt, Inflation is as bad as the mid 1970's, Personal debt on credit cards is over 1 trillion, is this the right time to be handing out money? Perhaps yes if you intend to disperse gas on a tire fire in a dumpster.
Man, I wish we had someone like Elvira Nabiullina as the current US Treasury Secretary or the Federal Reserve Chairman. A pragmatist, she did a magnificent job as the Chairwoman of the Central Bank of Russia in handling Russia's currency and economy in having Russia withstood against over 10 thousand sanctions by the West and established a nearly autarkic nation whose economy has stood afloat. It sucks that all our Treasury Secretaries and chairmen of the Federal Reserve are very incompetent and just keep inflating the U.S. economy to infinite proportions.
 
Hey guys, remember the time when Ukraine participated in an illegal invasion of another sovereign nation that did not present a threat to Ukraine? Thousands of Ukrainian troops invaded another country, raped and pillaged their way through it, then left the country in a state of ruin that it still haven't recovered from to this day. Pepperidge Farm remembers.




Oof. This one did not age well. How's that stability and democracy in Iraq coming along?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the amount of influence Ukrainians and (((Ukrainians))) hold in NATO that Hoholistan itself would've been involved.
 
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