Bobposting / Chloe Elselvier Solanders / Miss Voice Training / Chloey Hoey / Bob Smith / Huai Ze Dong - Openly solicits sketchy sex hormones to children. Bathtub estrogen! Self-professed coach for boys who want to sound like girls, doesn't sound like a girl himself.

[Wy4M]

100$? I thought the motherfucker sold them for 20$, assuming a 50% profit margin, motherfucker sells 6 and he makes more than minimum wage here, he sells 20 and he makes more than a engineer, he sells 40 and he's in ER doctor salary, he's fucking loaded by now.
Assuming he was financially not retarded, from his dox, it seems he isn't.
Had i made this scam, i would quickly move production into a warehouse or build a small clean room in a large house to pull this shit off, not do it in a 1-2 room studio.

Estradiol Valerate 10 ml/400mg – 55 USD (Less than 3 units 65 USD each)
Estradiol Cypionate 10 ml/400mg – 75 USD (less than 3 units 85 USD each)
Estradiol Enanthate 10 ml/400mg – 65 USD (less than 3 units 75 USD each)

Estradiol cypionate – Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals

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Estradiol enanthate – Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals

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Estradiol Valerate – Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals

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[AN/ALR56]

Estradiol Valerate 10 ml/400mg – 55 USD (Less than 3 units 65 USD each)
Estradiol Cypionate 10 ml/400mg – 75 USD (less than 3 units 85 USD each)
Estradiol Enanthate 10 ml/400mg – 65 USD (less than 3 units 75 USD each)
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Estradiol enanthate – Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals

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So, retards pay homemade shit the same amount that gets them lab grade hormones?
Unbelievable.

 

[Wy4M]

So, retards pay homemade shit the same amount that gets them lab grade hormones?
Unbelievable.

Even trannies who get Estradiol Valerate prescribed will often buy homebrew because they can get max 20mg / 4 weeks and
according to the self-thought scientists at DIY-HRT you need 24-28mg / 4 weeks.

So if Estradiol ever becomes more available for trannies the first thing they will do is complain that dosages are too weak.

 

[theo1996]

Using the term "Otokonoko" in the name of the company is an insult to traps and trap enjoyers, traps are just 2D men with very effeminate features that has nothing to do wth the absolute degeneracy of real world trannies, hormones and other deviants. Just another part of a subculture gets corrupted by this psychos.

 

[Tren Shapiro]

Drug schedules are a legal/law enforcement concept rather than a medical one. Test is grouped with psychoactive drugs because of its abuse by athletes and roiders. Nobody takes estrogen to enhance their performance.

It's a legal classification of drugs based on both abuse and accepted medical usage. Hydrocodone was Schedule III just like testosterone until 2014. Benzos like Xanax are Schedule IV because apparently they have a lower abuse potential than testosterone. It's a really dumb system.

Estrogen is an anabolic steroid. People with a deficiency will take it to enhance their performance.

 

[_-_deliriousDenizen_-_]

just popping in here to let y'all know that according to this website Otokonoko products are free of "harmful or unexpected compounds" (atleast the estradiol enanthate)

the Otokonoko website also states they don't ship to minors, yet there's nothing stopping a minor from somehow buying some crypto and buying products from there, lying about their age, so I don't get how they identify who's a minor and who's not
besides the appeal of homemade HRT for troon children is evident (you can go to r/transDIY and check the profiles of the posts there and you can see for yourself)

 

[Large]

just popping in here to let y'all know that according to this website Otokonoko products are free of "harmful or unexpected compounds" (atleast the estradiol enanthate)

I'm not a chemist but that GCMS test also seems to have failed to detect any estradiol enanthate in the sample.

 

[Susanna]

I'm not a chemist but that GCMS test also seems to have failed to detect any estradiol enanthate in the sample.

Sample: vial of estradiol enanthate produced by Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals with an advertised concentration of 40mg/ml

Test results:
Concentration: 35.98mg/ml

 

[Large]

Sample: vial of estradiol enanthate produced by Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals with an advertised concentration of 40mg/ml

Test results:
Concentration: 35.98mg/ml

I'm talking about the GCMS pdf
https://transharmreduction.org/s/otokonoko-results-1.pdf (https://archive.is/Wkp32)

 

[Wy4M]

Sample: vial of estradiol enanthate produced by Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals with an advertised concentration of 40mg/ml

Test results:
Concentration: 35.98mg/ml

35.98 instead of 40mg/ml is probably related to the scale he uses.

Lena for instance literally uses a cheap $7-$15 pocket scale.
> what balance / scale you use for weighing out the EV powder for mixing in the vials
A pocket digital scale which shows weight like 12.345 g (three digits after the dot)



From Lena's website:

MTFHRT@groups.io | Wiki

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Also note: "or DIY balance scales you can make from a long narrow wooden plank, 2 small nails and 2 syringes, one of them with 0.5 ml water as a precise weight"

 

[(The REAL) Jack Torrance]

I'm not a chemist but that GCMS test also seems to have failed to detect any estradiol enanthate in the sample.

Sample: vial of estradiol enanthate produced by Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals with an advertised concentration of 40mg/ml

Test results:
Concentration: 35.98mg/ml

The GCMS results for the other DIY-HRT samples show various forms of estrogen within the attached data. However for Otokonoko (above), no form of estrogen is shown. I have no idea where this 35.98 mg/ml concentration came from unless it was tested separately with results not shown on the website.

In addition, showing retention times (resulting from gas chromatography MASS spectrometry) is a lot less useful than the masses themselves which would actually be useful to identify the substances. Using retention times instead of mass is more of a “trust me, bro”. And lastly, GCMS is only useful to identify chemical contaminations, and utterly useless if you’re looking for biological contaminations.

 

[Susanna]

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Yeah...

At some point we need to just set up Kiwifarms Troonaceuticals so they'll have a source of actually sterile injections, and so we could vet customers to make sure nothing gets shipped to anyone under 18. Heisenberg style. I haven't done chemistry since high school, but I can guarantee I'd still make a better troonshiner than any of these villains, simply by lab sampling each shipment of powder to make sure it isn't poison, wearing gloves, practicing hygiene, and using reasonable equipment instead of fucking letter scales.

 

[Noproblemo]

I know why the hair is in there. He's using the same pressure cooker to make

 

[Peppor]

A /tttt/ troon supposedly emailed him and they're taking him at face value it's not an actual hair but a fiber of the filter. Also they're on full cope mode over the GSMS report

 

[Wy4M]

A /tttt/ troon supposedly emailed him and they're taking him at face value it's not an actual hair but a fiber of the filter. Also they're on full cope mode over the GSMS report

In that case 0.18ml contains 7.2mg Estradiol.
That's 43.2mg every 30 days.

Edit - Oh well, It seems that I referred to women in their menopause but for trannies it's a normal dose:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol_valerate / https://archive.is/Z6lxs

 

[Sigma_Rizzler]

I haven't been following this story super closely....but is this even remotely legal? These fags sell to underaged kids behind their parent's backs, right?

 

[Scavenger]

Got it. 105GB of Discord logs

Only skimmed very quickly through it and I'm already sure it contains lotsa gold.
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Jesus christ I think we really need a second flood

 

[You're MDNWU]

I'm actually curious about how many steroid junkies buy the testosterone to supplement their gains. I've seen my fair share of teenage roiders in the gym over the past couple of weeks.

About 3 weeks ago, me and a coworker were talking about how steroids will fuck with you mentally and physically. Later that day I went to the gym and I saw this kid who was about 17-18 years old wearing sweatpants with the local high schools name on it, a marine corps t shirt, and he was jacked, no branch of the military would take you while on steroids at that age. Absolutely no way he should naturally look like that at his age and the doctors at MEPS aren't retarded enough.

SARMs are very popular with the kids these days because you can buy them online; same with real gear, but SARMs are considered to be "safer" right now.

And the military doesn't care if you're on steroids before you enlist. It's a separate piss test and much more expensive than regular drug testing. The only time you get tested for steroids is if you're a massive fuck up/command hates you/you did a naughty, you're obviously using gear and they wanna get you for more.

MEPS doctors are just old men who wanna look at your butthole and to make sure you can duck walk.

For testosterone, TRT clinics are very popular in the community, even more so thanks to online TRT clinics being available. Tank your test before the expensive blood draw and you're golden while some just don't care and tell you to come in for a weekly shot if local. There's also other more "confirmed" websites if you want to order from India when it comes to other things beyond test and if they're shit like our troonshine friend, they typically don't last.

 

[888Flux]

So, retards pay homemade shit the same amount that gets them lab grade hormones?
Unbelievable.

Considering Estrogen (Estradiol) is not a Schedule III substance like Testosterone and anabolic steroids are, it's absolutely fucking insane they are making their OWN instead of buying it from India or as legitimate of a manufacturer they could find and rebranding it. It's probably on purpose though. These absolutely vile and disgusting people would rather make it in a bathtub probably to fulfill their own disgusting fantasy that they have in their head.

 

[FunPosting101]

Got it. 105GB of Discord logs

Only skimmed very quickly through it and I'm already sure it contains lotsa gold.
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Injecting yourself with gray or black market hormones is definitely a wise thing to be doing, it's not retardedly dangerous or anything at all. Nobody ever died or suffered severe adverse side-effects from jamming needles full of whatever the fuck some random fuckwad thought should be in said needle right into their veins after all.

This is perfectly safe, reasonable and rational behavior that clearly shows troons to be the most sane and sensible of us all.