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trooning is, in itself a bullshit attention whoring move that only a delusional narcisist would do
Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.
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Cow crossover alert! 
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What's wrong with people in showbiz using medicine to chase their body ideal? I thought that was the point Olly!
Abigail Thorn on Twitter: "@TaylorLorenz yeah I was thinking this doe…
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What's wrong with people in showbiz using medicine to chase their body ideal? I thought that was the point Olly!
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Ollie will never make it as an actor. Or at least not in the way he hopes. Not just because he's shit and a man in a dress, but also because he's already complaining on his professional Twitter about a pretty basic aspect of the industry.
If body management is going to be a problem, acting/modelling/showbiz in general isn't the right industry.
He's a chubby male hoping to be cast in the kind of roles thin and/or physically fit women get cast in. The self-delusion is off the charts.
If body management is going to be a problem, acting/modelling/showbiz in general isn't the right industry.
He's a chubby male hoping to be cast in the kind of roles thin and/or physically fit women get cast in. The self-delusion is off the charts.
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A pro-ana arc from Olly is all we need. It would 100% make him more of a woman.
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It was clear that he'll never make it as soon as he tweeted that he'd outlive a rights holder. Anyone willing to publicly burn bridges with a contact like that isn't going to succeed.
Griping about your job on Twitter is frowned upon even for people who aren't aspiring actors. Why would anyone hire you as an actor if you can't even act like you enjoy your work?
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The nerve of Olly lecturing people on undergoing unsafe medical treatments for the sake of personal vanity! Also sounds as though he speaks from experience regarding costumes that don't fit.Cow crossover alert!
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What's wrong with people in showbiz using medicine to chase their body ideal? I thought that was the point Olly!
He really doesn't seem to have figured out how to use social media in a detached and professional way. I don't use Twitter so maybe I'm wrong, but it seems unlikely to me that using it to childishly taunt people you disagree with is a sensible career move for an aspiring actor.
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Cos he wants Finnsters zoomer audience on tiktok .
Always think “how does this benefit tube” and your answer comes, no matter how out of place elements of it seem to be, content wise.
-and regards Ollys use of social media; he has only one direction of traffic with it, in his mind- it’s whole point of being is to afford his comfort.
So though it appears he’s very careful and considered with it- weaving a bubble so firm as to never see dissenting opinion, blocking with wild abandon- he sees it all as his consumable, rather than what it is (or certainly should be for one in his line of work): a presentation.
For him, it’s all outgoing- he doesn’t seem to thin anyone reads what he writes. So when he vents unprofessionally, or shits on fans, or is cringingly “me and this person are friends!” Spamming blue check’s replies with non sequiturs to deafening silence-
it’s because I’ve just sees soc media as his own very much needed narc tap- turn it on and soak in some of that adulation.
It’s not for anyone else, nor should he temper himself; this is his oxygen!
And, to be fair- from what we see, he hasn’t done *too* badly from this approach, in obvious terms such as being called out-
But I’d bet my home on the fact that his odiousness, and the simple fact he chose not to keep his mouth shut on the smallest of things, has lost him at least 5digit monetary figures thus far .
(It’s double funny cos he frequently boasts about how he has expertly deduced how to soc.med in the best possible way way- which ofc for the Tube, means only the way that makes the Tube feel most “euphoric “ at all times)
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On the one hand, yes. On the other, he says a lot of things to score points from his followers only to betray very different beliefs with his actions. Like how he made a video denouncing diet culture and crying over that sad lemon cake only months after saying cheerfully on stream that he was restricting calories to lose muscle. He's shed a significant amount of weight to embody Abigail; that's clear in his face/neck/arms — it's just not reducing the overall impression of barrel chested hugeness because 1) his bone structure is what it is and 2) he doesn't even try to obscure it by wearing looser tops.
Olly is an intensely goal-oriented person. He's always trying hard to do the "right" things in order to achieve the kinds of conventional success he wants. Reading high volume and low absorption to generate exhaustive-looking bibliographies. Regurgitating material chatGPT-style to sound knowledgeable even while deeper understanding eludes him. Going to drama school — any drama school — because he wants to be an actor, and surely drama school will make it happen. (His acting is worse after drama school.) Nagging his fans endlessly to vote for a play they haven't seen so he can collect the awards like video game tokens.
All this tells me he's the kind of person who'd gladly diet down to any size if required for a good role. Zero qualms, full steam ahead, straight to the compounding pharmacy for his luxury priced semaglutide shots. But he'll never find himself in that situation because he isn't actually a 30 y.o. actress battling for every possible marginal advantage against her peers. He's competing in a different category with different standards. And his main barrier to employment is being an awful unnatural actor, not looks.
Cow crossover alert!
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What's wrong with people in showbiz using medicine to chase their body ideal? I thought that was the point Olly!
OT, but the coverage of GLP-1 receptor agonists in mainstream news publications — especially woman-oriented ones like The Cut — has been incredibly navel gazing and focused on the wrong things. There's so much buzz and agony about already thin women taking these drugs to lose vanity pounds while the vast, vast majority of use remains in people who are actually overweight, obese, and/or T2 diabetic. Of course it's fair to cover vanity use too, because that is a thing that happens, and every conversation with that type of user is sadly, hilariously, irresistibly deranged... impossible to ignore, like a fire in front of you... but you definitely get the sense that coverage is tilted toward that niche phenomenon because journalists are based in major cities, ensconced in college educated circles, where they personally encounter fewer fat people with health concerns and more neurotic women desperately chasing a fashionable look.
Like, of course Taylor Lorenz's takeaway would be "pro ana culture is back" rather than "the effect this could have on the gulf between rich and poor is troubling" or "interesting how this drug might decouple thinness from perceptions of hard work, self denial, and overall virtue." It's all about her and how she feels about the people in her circle getting skinnier. Okay, but there's a universe outside of you! Be a journalist. Have some curiosity about the big picture!
Like, of course Taylor Lorenz's takeaway would be "pro ana culture is back" rather than "the effect this could have on the gulf between rich and poor is troubling" or "interesting how this drug might decouple thinness from perceptions of hard work, self denial, and overall virtue." It's all about her and how she feels about the people in her circle getting skinnier. Okay, but there's a universe outside of you! Be a journalist. Have some curiosity about the big picture!
lol you're so spot on with all of this. A few weeks ago, he posted that his favorite blog had shut down, and the blog was — you guessed it — what else? —
a Philosophy Tube fan blog. He used to read it when he felt sad, he says. Narc tap indeed. How very sad that this one is out of service.
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My thousand yard stare when I'm tuning out PhilosophyTube because his videos are so boring:
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Lmaoooo it’s hard to believe he’s an actor isn’t it?
That is to say at least, he has been paid, to act.
He’s so bad lol he can’t even mouth an accent accurately.
It’s rare to see filters make someone look definitively worse- he’s somehow got a Jackie Stallone level of too-much-work aesthetic going on here from filters alone.
@fax machine his FAVOURITE blog was a fan blog? He’s okay with saying this out loud, too?
His only interest, focus at all times, is Choobing.
That’s how it has to be, when what you’re shilling is so woefully sub par.
It does, I suppose, help explain how he never even threatens at depth or insight, despite the apparent (like a castle's folly) large bibliographies.
Damn Olly, please get even a single interest (“omg Kim Petras totally am such a fan yup definately interested“ doesn’t count, as it’s clear that pretend fandom is merely envy as mediated through an attempted Law of Attraction channelling. Very clearly an embodied suggestion from your therapist to positively change your apoplectic rage at the more famous , equally talentless kraut).
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it just b like that. sorry.
in fact, not only does one not equal he other, but when you try to combine those factors, you know what you get?
yup. The literal opposite of you,tube.
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lol, after initially being too bowled over by the sheer lunacy of someone's 'favourite blog' being a fan tribute to them-
I just realised that
A), its funny the fact that said fanblog has shut down- wonder if it was run by Joan from legal? or someone else who's gotten sick to the back teeth with him?
&
B) its funny that he couldn't NOT mention it.. maybe hoping they'd see, and reinstate, after being granted notice by their Liege ? the word 'parasocial' on his mind, included in the post, cos he cant leave a thought unrepeated..
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Besides being a terrible actor, Olly has pretty much cornered himself into a niche corner of the market - which is a non-passing trans woman. And considering there's a bunch of theatre HSTS types already in that corner, that both pass better and come across as more sympathetic, there's no reason to cast Olly unless they want to try and take advantage of his audience.
Olly's pretty much in the prime of an actor's life where they're supposed to land the roles that define him. He has a small part in Django, has been the butt of a joke in a skit and has had his own play. It's not exactly going to get better from here, especially when casting directors realise that he can't act plus his audience doesn't translate into numbers (=money).
For all his ambitions, I do wonder what sort of roles Olly himself thinks he'll land - love interest types that were supposed to go to some young actress? Is he that deluded?
Olly's pretty much in the prime of an actor's life where they're supposed to land the roles that define him. He has a small part in Django, has been the butt of a joke in a skit and has had his own play. It's not exactly going to get better from here, especially when casting directors realise that he can't act plus his audience doesn't translate into numbers (=money).
For all his ambitions, I do wonder what sort of roles Olly himself thinks he'll land - love interest types that were supposed to go to some young actress? Is he that deluded?
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WeeeEEEEOooowEEEeeEOOO misgendering alert, brah!
kneel and lick the tube hoop clean!
In other Twitter news, Toobiased is also celebrating hitting upon 1.3 mil subs - a remarkably slow'n'low level of growth, given how long ago he hit 1m, combined with the usual propulsional properties thereof (not to mention his algorithm
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I'm actually going to break from most of you in this thread and say that Choob has been very successful as an actress so far. He's got a named character role in a TV series starring Noomi Rapace, concurrent with a production of his own play, which of course he starred in. Thousands of starlets would covet those first two credits.
This despite being 1) male, and 2) bad at acting.
I think he does have a very hard ceiling that ends somewhere below Lara Croft, and indeed somewhere below any role of any consequence, but for a minuscule investment of talent he's reaped quite the ego boost.
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miniscule investment of talent- MASSIVE investment of effort otherwise.
every moment of every day hustling and slaving to overcome this lack of talent.
I suppose that's what they say though isnt it? there's countless unknown geniuses. hard work is about the only thing that really gets you anywhere, wether you've got anything to take *there*, or not.
BONUS Joan from legal, now reduced to obsessively aut'ing out over Drag Race only, pretending to be a gay man..
'We', bitch?
..for the purpose of saying that drag queens cant say tranny, by way of reclamation. You know, desipte getting called such lifelong as a complement to being spat on, etc .
Joan do LOVE to decree from on high.
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If the hard work is "networking" on social media and spamming AGP pictures, then, as the saying goes, I daresay Choob has never worked a day in his life.
It seems to Toob, acting means moving every muscle in your face constantly and with no coordination.
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What do AGP GAMPs see in this brute, lmao?:
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I can't reply to fax machine:
I do agree with you that he'd abandon any qualms he had if he thought it'd bring him success.
I think that's worse for his career than if he was genuinely refusing to lose weight. It shows that he's prepared to lie to his followers and portray himself a certain way, but he still isn't able or willing to be professional. If he was being unprofessional due to inexperience, they could get him media training and a (better) PR agent. He knows how he's supposed to behave and he's choosing not to. He's a liability.
I do agree with you that he'd abandon any qualms he had if he thought it'd bring him success.
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Disagree, but still love you.
While the Alan Bennett soul suckingness of a grey country can be a factor, this isn't what's going on with Ollie. This is a result of him being terminally online and also mixing with what can generously be termed a "cosmopolitan intellectual milieu" but more accurately "posh twats who take themselves too seriously".
Most normal Brits are socialised to piss take all the time. Americans sometimes mistake this for wit, but it's just banal contrarianism. Likewise there's a tendency towards self deprecation and a discomfort towards overt praise (let alone self aggrandisement). Best embodied in this clip:
That's anathemical to narc AGPs, who are very sincere in their belief they're the best person ever and are too thin skinned to handle playful ribbing. Therefore Ollie does the opposite of this, which is why there's so many bongs in this thread (he's going against the grain in a way that induces a culturally specific cringe on top of the existing cringe he generates). I'd normally chalk this up to him only hanging out exclusively with public schoolboys and the posher St Andrews grads, but it's patently obvious he has no irl friends and this has been caused by him entering into a terminally online bubble.
We are very frequently on the same wavelength. The way he teased the photos of Finnster was so transparent to me, when Finnster was basically just a 5 second walk on gag.
It's especially telling based on his twitter interaction - "I have another idea for a collab, this time you're paying!". Ollie has essentially admitted he begged Finnster for a collab and bought him dinner in exchange for Finnster getting an Uber after one of his trap streams to show his face and take a couple of photos. The desperation is actually quite sad.
I also dispute the idea that Ollie "knows a place with a good cheeseboard". I think he knows some restaurants that do cheeseboards, and is aware that they associated with being fancy, but I doubt he's going Chez Bruce or Caractère. He's probably just found some little hole in the wall that does slices of lukewarm cheddar and limpid brie, with a couple of bits of supermarket Wensleydayle chucked in, provided with slightly-better-than-Jacobs-Crackers.
Ollie's the sort of guy who insists on saying "Do you know the Bishop of Norwich?" when he orders port (because you know he'd order port with the cheeseboard) but can't tell an aged Cockburns from Fletcher's Tawny, and would guzzle it regardless.
I do agree. When you lay out his CV it does sound impressive, and you cannot fault his work ethic - he is constantly grafting. It's just when you get into the minutae you realise he's doing comparatively poorly for someone with such a stacked decks. There's tonnes of jobbing actors who would kill for both his opportunities and his experience.
Nevertheless it's all relative. He's successful compared to your average thespian, but he is in no way an established actor. If someone doesn't know what PhilosopyTube is, they won't even go "oh it's that actor off that other thing" (let alone "oh it's Abigail Thorne!").
New Joan lore unlocked? I thought she was an intersex woman, now she seems to be referring to gay men as a collective "we".
From what I understand his refusal to take hormones or "come out" as trans had upset many people. Apparently the groomer cults on /lgbt/ and discord sphere overall have repeatedly tried to get him to do so much like they groom random minors and other influencers. He's a huge "prize" for these people. He has a handful of clips where they trick him into say "I'm trans" and then he says "Oh nonono I'm a femboy" and they go mad on the comments.
Olly was just a weak willed individual who soon after meeting ContraPoints fell into her tranny cult. I wouldn't be surprised if Olly is, subconsciously or not, trying to groom Finn the same way. Him opening an OF and his interactions with trannies on Twitter might be a sign they're getting to him. Thus far he seems more grounded than other AGPs, but his (likely) lack of a girlfriend and descend into the troomsphere might mean he won't resist anymore. In my experience with femboys (not that way...), the ones with a social life and no obvious mental issues that aren't virgins at 25 (going gay is an admission of failure) don't eventually troom and all and simply treat it as a hobby/subculture.