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Skitzocow Kindness / Alyssa Jo Frauens / @KindKinkster / AJ Frauens / Stella Lawrence / Zion Stellar and Paul Mendoza / Bonnie Nelson / @BonnieMakes - LF BPD munchie furry dogsitter to pee in bathtub and eat all my food, inquire inside, hourly rates
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Kindness' twitter is an incomprehensible word vomit, but this one caught my eye in particular. It's a part of a long thread where she's updating her health. I'm not going to screencap the entire thread, but there's a few subtweets that caught my eye.
The Farms got a mention, in which she asks kiwis to analyse the writings of her mother.
Here's the writings.
TL;DR: Her mother wrote a lot about Kindness - especially her observations - and does seem to be extremely concerned that Kindness has ADHD. Essentially the letters (third and fourth) seem to be a plea for help. I can't remember if she was finally diagnosed with it or not, but it does indicate that Kindness was a genuinely bright kid, if not troubled/disruptive. Check out the first paragraph of the fourth image - it's very apparent she hasn't changed.
I'm not gonna lie, reading her mother's writings made me feel a fuckton of sympathy for Kindness. She was clearly just a kid who needed a lot of help and guidance. That is, until I read the next few tweets.
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The Farms got a mention, in which she asks kiwis to analyse the writings of her mother.
Here's the writings.
TL;DR: Her mother wrote a lot about Kindness - especially her observations - and does seem to be extremely concerned that Kindness has ADHD. Essentially the letters (third and fourth) seem to be a plea for help. I can't remember if she was finally diagnosed with it or not, but it does indicate that Kindness was a genuinely bright kid, if not troubled/disruptive. Check out the first paragraph of the fourth image - it's very apparent she hasn't changed.
I'm not gonna lie, reading her mother's writings made me feel a fuckton of sympathy for Kindness. She was clearly just a kid who needed a lot of help and guidance. That is, until I read the next few tweets.
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All the things her mom listed sound like BPD. Talk to your shrink about that Alyssa and see what happens.
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Sounds like her parents didn't establish any structure or discipline because they didn't want to stifle her creativity or personality, and refused to consider medical intervention until she'd already cemented a lot of really anti-social behavior. Also, every time I had a physical as a kid they checked my ears along with everything else so it's hard to believe that Alyssa's hearing was never checked. You want kiwi feedback on your mom, Alyssa? Your parents failed you by giving you too much freedom and tried to medicalize your personality disorder rather than actively retraining your problematic behavior through difficult therapy. Your current situation is a reflection of your own lack of discipline and sense of identity, not your upbringing. 'Preciate the tranch tea, though.
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So is this writing from her adopted parents or her actual parents? That was one of her lies, wasn't it.
I do believe these are from her parents though.
Edit: Alyssa, you need to find a way after whatever this hospital shit is to have them help you get your meds CORRECT. You are on so much shit, and there's no way you need to be. And stop rubbing that stupid testosterone shit on yourself.
You need to be somewhere supervised, and have your med properly changed. I don't know if there's even a way to do this, but there might be programs or something in your country?
Maybe if she's really in hospital, Bonnie can bring it up as a way of treatment.
It won't cure her crazy, but there's no reason to be filling her body with poison either. Maybe when you aren't causing your own issues, they can properly diagnose you.
I do believe these are from her parents though.
Edit: Alyssa, you need to find a way after whatever this hospital shit is to have them help you get your meds CORRECT. You are on so much shit, and there's no way you need to be. And stop rubbing that stupid testosterone shit on yourself.
You need to be somewhere supervised, and have your med properly changed. I don't know if there's even a way to do this, but there might be programs or something in your country?
Maybe if she's really in hospital, Bonnie can bring it up as a way of treatment.
It won't cure her crazy, but there's no reason to be filling her body with poison either. Maybe when you aren't causing your own issues, they can properly diagnose you.
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Compares her daughter to a jewel widely regarded to be cursed. Her mother went through a lot.
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Id like a biography in her own words at this time, just to compare to the past and anything in the future. Also because inevitably we'd learn something new.
Guess I could just buckle down n get Twitter for the same affect.
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The problem with demented BPD whores is apparently the primary symptom of BPD is absolutely refusing to acknowledge you have it.
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I disagree that she needs to be somewhere supervised. She doesn't. She needs the opposite.
She needs to be kicked on her ass and have horny men stop larping with her.
You can bet if she was faced with homelessness or getting another job, she'd be flipping burgers in no time
She needs to be kicked on her ass and have horny men stop larping with her.
You can bet if she was faced with homelessness or getting another job, she'd be flipping burgers in no time
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Yes, this is medicalizing a disciplinary issue. ADHD seemed like the quickest solution that made "sense" and didn't demand any hard work from either the parents or their daughter to "fix."
It's common in our current culture to think along those lines, so it doesn't surprise me that this was the choice. I think Alyssa could forgive her for this. Sometimes we don't know that the doctors are selling us a fix and we end up taking medication we don't need! Much to think about! Even very loving parents are going to mess up sometimes and run into things they don't know what to do about. They thought they were doing the right thing. (And even if they weren't, it won't hurt you to give them some grace, since you need some too.)
Alyssa, your parents should have taught you more about boundaries and self-control because those are important in being able to build relationships with others and to be useful and responsible. It is something you can still practice, despite your parents not teaching you these skills. Your mother clearly loved/loves you but did not want to dull your shine until she realized that indulging you meant you weren't growing up to be a well-rounded person.
In your writeup on the Tranch, you expressed real heartbreak over the fact that you don't think you're well enough to be of help to people the way you want to be. Well, this is how you can be. Stop thinking of your problems as diagnoses like your mother did when she wondered why you were acting out. Start thinking of them as something you can work on, hold yourself accountable for, and improve over time. It seems like you want to help, but if you mess up and are called out, you would rather be helpless and have all your physical and emotional needs taken care of by someone else than accept that you aren't perfect and that not everyone will like you. You need to learn resilience and keep going. Believe that you can do this without being on 20 medications, and your health will improve and you can start doing things for yourself AND for the people you love.
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Supervision to adjust medication, not permanent. Sorry I was unclear.
I'm OK with your suggestion as well Ha.
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Those letters are interesting. Between those and her thread here, it's clear that her default setting is needing a constant stream of positive attention from others. (Praise, sympathy, worry, validation, etc.)
Over time, she has learned that playing up weakness is a good way to get this. Being sick, being disabled, needing care from others... This thread is like 200+ pages of her doing that.
Another good way to get it is to emphasise being an altruistic caretaker of others. Note how in her record of events posted in the tranch thread, she makes only a brief mention of her romantic interest in Bonnie at the beginning, and then completely glosses over it and spends the rest of the writeup making it sound like her only desire was to be a counsellor/manager for their "organization".
The problem is, what does she imagine that "getting better" will look and feel like for her? Because I can almost guarantee that truly getting better is not going to be anything like that. It's not going to be starting from the bottom and only going up, it's going to involve actually feeling uncomfortable (or even miserable!) and not being able to use all her normal coping mechanisms to soothe those feelings away like she's used to. She's going to have to be willing to commit to learning new coping mechanisms, despite how hard that will be.
Unfortunately, another huge hurdle to this is that she's also deeply embedded in the mental health/disability/support subculture online, and the frameworks and solutions they offer for these things are far more appealing than anything that would actually be objectively helpful. It's much nicer to hear that the problem isn't you and everyone else is obliged to be more mindful of your needs, rather than hear that the problem ultimately is you and you need to put effort in to improve yourself to achieve a better future.
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Her mom said in that letter that she was about to start high school at the time of her writing it, so that would have made Kindness 13ish? That's definitely too old to be throwing fits, bursting into tears, and ruining family vacations because you aren't getting enough attention. I sympathize with her parents here, even though a lot of that was their fault. It's also insane that after all this time she is exactly the same as she was back then.
It's interesting that Kindness refers to this as "fucked up shit my mom wrote about me" instead of very valid worries for a mother to have. Like sure, it must suck to read that you were a problem child but she does so with a narcissistic rejection of the idea that she should ever have had to change to be more pleasant to the people around her.
Knowing this, it's no wonder her mom likely pays for her rent just to keep her out of the house. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have a kid like Kindness.
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I thought reading Kindless's tweets were exhausting, but those letters confirm that she is awful to deal with in person too. It's no wonder Kindless has zero friends. Fat Paul is the only one that puts up with her shit, and that's only because he's a low IQ uggo that can't score anyone better than Kindless, and they both know it.
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Your parents failed you by giving you too much freedom and tried to medicalize your personality disorder rather than actively retraining your problematic behavior through
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Don't know why she's bitching about not getting ADHD meds when one of the letters explicitly shows her mother asking that she be evaluated for them. Healthcare provider must have said no for whatever reason and she's pissy that her parents went along with what the doctor advised, as most responsible people do.
My armchair tinfoil is that the described difference in her behavior at home versus school caused the psychiatrist to think that it was more along the lines of attention seeking personality disorder than ADHD. Teenagers rightfully don't get diagnosed with personality disorders as they often grow out of problem behaviors.
Obviously she never did.
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An unreal amount of spot-on with this take. The rare time I've been a dickhead without feeling remorse involved telling a BPD chick "Enjoy your BPD". The reaction was so unhinged and surreal that it brought a demonic, vindictive joy to the heart.
Kindness is in a different league of crazy, though.
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"I TOTALLY DONT READ THE FARMS EVER but since you guys are ____ could you ____?"
Alyssa you got the damn munchies, you're a disease faker. Stand and take a full god damn shower instead of pissing in bath tubs till the water turns cold
Alyssa you got the damn munchies, you're a disease faker. Stand and take a full god damn shower instead of pissing in bath tubs till the water turns cold
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Didn't realise so many doctors read the KF, amazing stuff.
Kindness, you are 100% batshit crazy. Just roll with it bro.
Kindness, you are 100% batshit crazy. Just roll with it bro.
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Kindness is in some ways the Cersei of the whole saga.
She's fucked up everything around her and now she rules over the ashes.
Edit: And I guess in this metaphor the epilepsy unit is the Red Keep, and Boner is her brother.
She's fucked up everything around her and now she rules over the ashes.
Edit: And I guess in this metaphor the epilepsy unit is the Red Keep, and Boner is her brother.