Susie Green & Mermaids UK - "Trans Kid Support Charity", Susie had her underage kid get GRS

[frap]

There's not a word strong enough to describe the whole shitshow. These people didn't give a damn about the kids.

 

[Geranium]

It's clear that Tavistock has, for a long time, operated by gestating policies and treatments, and then seeding those concepts into daughter organisations. These new groups are then used to astroturf support for particular goals Tavistock wants to pursue, either directly as new "services" that are connected to the institute, or indirectly by the generation of favourable publicity, by lobbying the NHS, government, or even Tavistock itself. The latter serves to give the institute an external actor to point at for justification of its own position.

There's certainly a large degree of symbiosis between the two. What I find funny is that you have people like Bernadette Wren and Polly Carmichael who occasionally wring their hands and express (in a tame way) worries publicly about being pushed further into medicalisation too quickly by lobby groups, but then write things like this, fully endorsing evidence-free medical intervention as some kind of self-expression:

Dr Bernadette Wren asks: “How do we justify supporting trans youngsters to move towards treatment involving irreversible physical change when we ascribe to a highly tentative and provisional account of how we come to identify and live as gendered?” (Wren, 2014, p. 271). She enlightens us: the criteria don’t arise from “narrow ‘clinical’ judgement” but rather from “broader social acceptance of the challenges brought by new medical technologies, new ideologies of self‐determination and new models of parental responsiveness and love” (Wren, 2020, p. 40).

She elaborates: "firstly, we now live in a social world where “medical intervention on and into the body becomes increasingly common-place” (Wren, 2020, p. 41). Medicine offers treatments that are conventionally accepted in many walks of life as ways of assisting our individual “identity projects.” Wren suggests that the widespread use of technologies and pharmaceutical products (for example for contraception, abortion), as well as surgery, offers treatments that “can become formative of people’s sense of self” (Wren, 2020, p. 41). Secondly, current childrearing practices afford children opportunities to exercise independent existential choices, including “considerable freedom to make their own mistakes” (Wren, 2020, p. 41).

From:

Pages 42-46, 50-53 from Transgender Body Politics by Heather Brunskell-Evans feature Wren, attached as a PDF.

These senior GIDS clinicians have come to hold an ideological position about the validity of innate gender identity, which is not a psychological problem to be talked through but a medical problem in terms of transforming the body to match the mind's conception. They're obviously curious about these hormonal techniques used initially by the Dutch and in the US, so when their own sibling Mermaids says "How about more blockers and hormones?" they initially recoil with all the sincerity and commitment of Homer Simpson in the doughnut shop saying "Oh, I really shouldn't".

 

[bijoux_hexjinx]

-post with book excerpts-

As grim reading as it is, thank you so much for sharing these excerpts (and for so many of your excellent posts on the farms).

I find this so chilling from p225ff (amongst many of the other horrors) -

"Mermaids asked that ‘a thorough audit’ be carried out of the views of GIDS’s staff... The charity went further, arguing that training should be given to ensure all staff had ‘a correct approach’ to gender issues.25"

Yikes!!

The absolute brass neck of Mermaids, and, even worse, the sheer cowardice on GIDS' part to continually accede to these pressures.

I'm a bit MATI so I'll chuck in for good measure just how furious I am that the Tavistock et al seem to have done naff all ongoing outcomes/statistic tracking/clinical or follow-up research etc. That research could have been genuinely valuable for improving/disproving clinical evidence (such as it is) for children/young people presenting with distress about gender.

 

[Geranium]

"Mermaids asked that ‘a thorough audit’ be carried out of the views of GIDS’s staff... The charity went further, arguing that training should be given to ensure all staff had ‘a correct approach’ to gender issues.25"

Here's the full section of Mermaids's written submission in October 2018 to the Health and social care and LGBT communities inquiry of the Women and Equalities Committee:

2.4 Harmful views

GIDS still has members of staff who are openly unsupportive of TNB CYP. Mermaids believes that such beliefs are incompatible with being capable or reliable in supporting vulnerable TNB CYP and their families.

A clear example of views that are still held by practising clinicians in GIDS is Melissa Midgen who has openly and repeatedly endorsed the anti-trans book ‘Transgender Children: Born in Your Own Body’ edited by Heather Brunskell-Evans and Michelle Moore.[10]

Mermaids asks that a thorough audit of staff and their views on transgender issues and identities is carried out to ensure every TNB child is dealt with in a respectful and supportive way. Training to ensure awareness and a correct approach to gender issues should be carried out to ensure this.

No clinician should and can, as a matter of international principle and law, deny a CYP right to their identity and every child has the right to the best possible health as per UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Written evidence - Mermaids (archive)

I'm a bit MATI so I'll chuck in for good measure just how furious I am that the Tavistock et al seem to have done naff all ongoing outcomes/statistic tracking/clinical or follow-up research etc. That research could have been genuinely valuable for improving/disproving clinical evidence (such as it is) for children/young people presenting with distress about gender.

As far as I can remember, pretty much the only significant piece of research GIDS did was what they called the early-intervention study, trying to replicate the infamous "Dutch protocol" puberty blockers study. They couldn't replicate the results and (my favourite part) published the results the day after the High Court ruling in the Keira Bell case. Tavistock puberty blocker study published after nine years - BBC News (archive)

(Michael Biggs has written in detail about the GIDS puberty blockers study, and also about the serious problems with the original Dutch study.)

This was the High Court ruling where the judges were exasperated after repeatedly asking GIDS for figures, and GIDS turning around and shrugging (quotes below are partial). [2020] EWHC 3274 (Admin); Bell v Tavistock.

24. In that context, we note that though this research study [the Early Intervention Study] was commenced some 9 years ago, at the time of the hearing before us the results of this research had yet to be published.

27. The age distribution of those treated with PBs in each year between 2011 and 2020 was not provided to the court. Although the defendant and the Trusts said that such data was available, in the sense that the ages of the children are known, the data has not been collated for each year.
28. We note here that we find it surprising that such data was not collated in previous years given the young age of the patient group, the experimental nature of the treatment and the profound impact that it has.

34. The court asked for statistics on the number or proportion of young people referred by GIDS for PBs who had a diagnosis of ASD [autism]. Ms Morris said that such data was not available, although it would have been recorded on individual patient records. We therefore do not know the proportion of those who were found by GIDS to be Gillick competent who had ASD, or indeed a mental health diagnosis.
35. Again, we have found this lack of data analysis – and the apparent lack of investigation of this issue - surprising.

57. No precise numbers are available from GIDS (as to the percentage of patients who proceed from PBs to CSH).
58. We were told that the defendant did not have any data recording the proportion of those on puberty blockers who progress to cross-sex hormones.
59. We find it surprising that GIDS did not obtain full data showing the figures and the proportion of those on puberty blockers who remain within GIDS and move on to cross-sex hormones.

 

[bijoux_hexjinx]

@Geranium

I'm spitting feathers reading that (mercy me!)

I'm not sure that any other NHS clinic would get away with swerving producing (basic) patient population/data requests such as those outlined in your post.

"35. Again, we have found this lack of data analysis – and the apparent lack of investigation of this issue - surprising."

I love the classic understated High Court speak of "surprising" when they likely mean "disgraceful".

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

Mr Spack also has a Tedx talk, not yet deleted, most of which is the usual nonsense we've all heard, e.g. "Gynecologists can't tell". He starts talking about this case at 11:30. Starting 12:02 he explains that he deliberately stunted Jack's growth hormonally with oestrogen at the age of 13 because otherwise he'd have been 6 foot 5. Spack calls this "innovative". Archive (scaled down to get under 200 MB):

 

[JULAY]

Mr Spack also has a Tedx talk, not yet deleted, most of which is the usual nonsense we've all heard, e.g. "Gynecologists can't tell". He starts talking about this case at 11:30. Starting 12:02 he explains that he deliberately stunted Jack's growth hormonally with oestrogen at the age of 13 because otherwise he'd have been 6 foot 5. Spack calls this "innovative". Archive (scaled down to get under 200 MB):

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This guy is a fucking monster. He should be imprisoned for the rest of his life. Listen to how proud he is of experimenting on and mutilating this poor kid.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Starting 12:02 he explains that he deliberately stunted Jack's growth hormonally with oestrogen at the age of 13 because otherwise he'd have been 6 foot 5. Spack calls this "innovative".

They condemned mengele for less.

 

[Geranium]

Mr Spack also has a Tedx talk, not yet deleted, most of which is the usual nonsense we've all heard

Watching this now, only up to the point where Spack is talking about puberty blockers, and he says that "this buys time in the diagnostic process for 4-5 years, so that they [the child] can work it out”.

Now obviously this is a common refrain, and something that's been brought up in this thread recently - it's in the transcript of Susie Green's TED talk, for example, as well as where the title of Hannah Barnes's book Time to Think comes from.

But it's also not what purpose of puberty blockers was - the Dutch were very clear that puberty was being blocked to give the child a better chance of passing as the opposite sex.

The crucial advantage of puberty suppression was creating “individuals who more easily pass in to the opposite gender role” (Delemarre-van de Waal & Cohen-Kettenis, 2006, p. 155). The emphasis was on external appearance, especially height.4 That word appears 23 times in Delemarre-van de Waal’s review of puberty suppression (Delemarre-van de Waal, 2014).

Full article: The Dutch Protocol for Juvenile Transsexuals: Origins and Evidence (archive)

Here's Michael Biggs talking about it on the Gender: A Wider Lens podcast (episode 101):

 

[AnOminous]

But it's also not what purpose of puberty blockers was - the Dutch were very clear that puberty was being blocked to give the child a better chance of passing as the opposite sex.

The whole argument is predicated on the clearly nonsensical lie you can just skip puberty and do it later. Considering the vast majority of minors with gender dysphoria grow out of it, the precautionary principle would require not doing something that permanently and deliberately harms the majority, especially when it is based on lies anyway and there's no real evidence outcomes are generally good.

 

[Lurk Jurk]

The whole argument is predicated on the clearly nonsensical lie you can just skip puberty and do it later. Considering the vast majority of minors with gender dysphoria grow out of it, the precautionary principle would require not doing something that permanently and deliberately harms the majority, especially when it is based on lies anyway and there's no real evidence outcomes are generally good.

Not just you can skip puberty and do it later, but that a hormone imbalance will magically induce an opposite sex puberty.

 

[Geranium]

Susie Green has finally chimed in on Hannah Barnes's book about GIDS.

@ripx4nutmeg, tweet 1630920523428376577 (archive)

The former CEO of child sex change charity Mermaids, Susie Green, says Hannah Barnes' book that's unearthed the full extent of the Tavistock scandal will result in children taking their own lives, and that (unspecified) studies and her (also unspecified) 'experiences' prove this
Mar 1, 2023 · 1:18 PM UTC

The Times wrote a front page piece about this book. That should tell you everything you need to know about it. They also managed to crowbar into that article a reference to my daughter, even though it is completely irrelevant to the story, whilst misgendering her, I am pursuing a complaint with IPSO.

Their anti-trans articles are designed to undermine transgender people, with a particular focus on trans women and young people. I find it infuriating, after speaking to thousands of families over the years and seeing the abject misery caused by a lack of access to timely, affirmative healthcare that women like this are platformed.

Study after study shows that access to early intervention reduces anxiety and depression. We know regret and detransition affects a TINY percentage of the trans population. I fully agree we need to try to ensure that these experiences are listened to, but to use this to justify no treatment for the 99 because 1 may regret?

Madness. And its because a cis outcome is the perceived 'good' outcome.

We know that after Bell vs Tavistock, a number of young people took their own lives whilst they were on the waiting list with all hope of accessing treatment was denied. I know the actual number and it breaks my heart. We are seeing no new patients being seen at the Tavistock and new services nowhere near ready.

This book is nonsense. It comes from a desire to see all support for trans people, especially young people removed. The claims are not backed up by the experiences I have seen families struggle with over the years. Please do not give it any credence. Its dangerous and will harm our kids access to care in a system that is already failing them drastically, and at the cost of young lives.

The images look like screenshots from Facebook, but I'm not sure exactly where. It's not on Susie Green's Facebook profile.

“This book is nonsense. It comes from a desire to see all support for trans people, especially young people removed.” Whatever helps you sleep at night, Suse.

Edit: Just checked and, for those keeping score, the "transphobic" Guardian still hasn't reviewed Time to Think.

 

[Risky Horse Business]

https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1630920523428376577
“This book is nonsense. It comes from a desire to see all support for trans people, especially young people removed.” Whatever helps you sleep at night, Suse.

If I'd had my son's testicles cut off, I'd flip my shit every time someone suggested it was a bad thing too.

The stupid homophobic bitch.

 

[Geranium]

If I'd had my son's testicles cut off, I'd flip my shit every time someone suggested it was a bad thing too.

Pretty sure Susie Green bought Jack the whole colongina, as he was puberty-blocked, which typically makes penile-inversion infeasible. I wonder if it smells like shit like all the other sigmoid colon vaginoplasties.

 

[ScooterL]

Pretty sure Susie Green bought Jack the whole colongina, as he was puberty-blocked, which typically makes penile-inversion infeasible. I wonder if it smells like shit like all the other sigmoid colon vaginoplasties.

Still impossible to find pictures of Jack today.

When last seen, he was looking manly and developing a case of the curved spine often seen among eunuchs. I suspect he's kept hidden because he's looking like something other than a true and honest woman.

 

[Geranium]

Pretty sure Susie Green bought Jack the whole colongina, as he was puberty-blocked, which typically makes penile-inversion infeasible.

Not sure why I blanked on the infamous clip of Susie Green and Jack's gran laughing at how puberty blockers gave him a tiny penis:

It’s infamous for a clip (below) where Susie Green laughs about how the puberty blockers she put him on (which she got from the US) resulted in him having a micropenis, “so there wasn’t much there to work with”. I think that means Jack now has a magical self-lubricating colongina.

Edit: Full section about the surgery in the BBC documentary (Transsexual Teen, Beauty Queen), from 38m19s:

If anyone's found the documentary at a higher quality please do let me know, the version I've got is rubbish.

Thought I'd check in on the Mermaids staff, given that Mermaids themselves are pretty quiet.

The list below is mostly from this October post, plus a couple discussed separately. Be aware that the linked names below are mostly direct LinkedIn links, in case you're signed in over there. (Ghost Archive is being very flakey at the moment.)

Alex Woolhouse, who I think was "head of legal" or something, and who co-hosted the defunct Mermaids podcast, appears to have left. His Twitter account remains deleted (probably gone for good now), but his Instagram account is still active. He turned 27 the other week, here's a photo of the gigahon on the occasion:

That's, uh, quite the jaw you've got there.

And here's a video from his party, with our favourite degenerate Darren Mew (still unemployed) on the left at the start:

Alex Woolhouse (@alexwoolly) (archive)

He seems to be trying to break into the meejah (but hasn't told his agent that he's deleted his Twitter). Here's a showreel he posted:

Book me !! I do writing, hosting, podcasts, radio, speaking, modelling - I’ll go to the opening of an envelope honestly x BOOK ME IN 2023!!! Thanks to producer to the stars @jelliellielliott once again for this iconic show reel x

@alexwoolly Instagram post (archive)

Rebecca (Bex or Becky) Shorunke (media & PR manager): Removed her Mermaids employment from her LinkedIn profile.


Daniel Mair (helpline worker): Left Mermaids in November 2022.


Alice Derbyshire (helpline worker): Left Mermaids in December 2022.


Lance O'Meara (Head of Fundraising): Has left/is leaving Mermaids - they're recruiting for his position.

Caoimhin "CJ" Toland (helpline worker; FTM troon): Still at Mermaids but removed their name from his current job on LinkedIn.

Spoiler: More remaining staff

Krystyna Hebb (head of helpline) seems to have removed her LinkedIn profile, or made it inaccessible.
Terry Keane (admin worker): Still at Mermaids.
Iesha Palmer (campaigns officer): Still at Mermaids.
Sarah C (helpline worker): May have deleted her LinkedIn profile, or made it inaccessible.
Demi Smith (trainer): Still at Mermaids but her profile picture has an "open to work" banner.
Amy Gadd (Director of Operations & Direct Service Delivery): Still at Mermaids.
Carrie Lyell (Head of Digital & Communications): Still at Mermaids.
Verity Smith (Transgender Inclusion in Sport Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Kai O'Doherty (Head of Policy and Research): Still at Mermaids.
Rachel McNicholas (Head of People and Culture): Still at Mermaids.
Sarah I (Volunteer Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Adrienn Nagy (Events Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Azia Ramani Singley (Secretary): Still at Mermaids.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Apologies for double-posting. Thought I'd check in on the Mermaids staff, given that Mermaids themselves are pretty quiet.

The list below is mostly from this October post, plus a couple discussed separately. Be aware that the linked names below are mostly direct LinkedIn links, in case you're signed in over there. (Ghost Archive is being very flakey at the moment.)

Alex Woolhouse, who I think was "head of legal" or something, and who co-hosted the defunct Mermaids podcast, appears to have left. His Twitter account remains deleted (probably gone for good now), but his Instagram account is still active. He turned 27 the other week, here's a photo of the gigahon on the occasion:
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That's, uh, quite the jaw you've got there.

And here's a video from his party, with our favourite degenerate Darren Mew (still unemployed) on the left at the start:
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Alex Woolhouse (@alexwoolly) (archive)

He seems to be trying to break into the meejah (but hasn't told his agent that he's deleted his Twitter). Here's a showreel he posted:
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@alexwoolly Instagram post (archive)

Rebecca (Bex or Becky) Shorunke (media & PR manager): Removed her Mermaids employment from her LinkedIn profile.
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Daniel Mair (helpline worker): Left Mermaids in November 2022.
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Alice Derbyshire (helpline worker): Left Mermaids in December 2022.
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Lance O'Meara (Head of Fundraising): Has left/is leaving Mermaids - they're recruiting for his position.

Caoimhin "CJ" Toland (helpline worker; FTM troon): Still at Mermaids but removed their name from his current job on LinkedIn.
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Spoiler: More remaining staff

Krystyna Hebb (head of helpline) seems to have removed her LinkedIn profile, or made it inaccessible.
Terry Keane (admin worker): Still at Mermaids.
Iesha Palmer (campaigns officer): Still at Mermaids.
Sarah C (helpline worker): May have deleted her LinkedIn profile, or made it inaccessible.
Demi Smith (trainer): Still at Mermaids but her profile picture has an "open to work" banner.
Amy Gadd (Director of Operations & Direct Service Delivery): Still at Mermaids.
Carrie Lyell (Head of Digital & Communications): Still at Mermaids.
Verity Smith (Transgender Inclusion in Sport Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Kai O'Doherty (Head of Policy and Research): Still at Mermaids.
Rachel McNicholas (Head of People and Culture): Still at Mermaids.
Sarah I (Volunteer Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Adrienn Nagy (Events Manager): Still at Mermaids.
Azia Ramani Singley (Secretary): Still at Mermaids.

Pretty telling that some pf them are purging Mermaids from their work history.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Susie thought she was Triton smoothly and instantly transforming her child with a magic trident, but she was actually the mermaid's sisters offering her a cursed knife.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I've been working on a post about the Tavistock book for a thread and considering its so connected to Mermaids I thought I would post it here as well. I'm only 18% into the book and already its insane the shit that was going on there.

Here is a sample of the shit to come. This is the report of one parent's child written by the parent because he is too severely mentally ill to do his own interview.

• Alex (Mother’s Summary) – 15 years old - Male
  • Autistic and Severe Obessive Compuslive Disorder
    • His OCD was to the degree where he was showering multiple times a day and refusing to touch anything due to germs.
    • He began to become agoraphobic.
  • CAMHS Referal
    • Refused to go to sessions with parent.
    • They made him believe he was transgender and turn it into one of his obessions.
      • And that his mother had misgendered him his entire life to hurt him.
  • He became hyperfixated on getting hormones due to his OCD.
  • Instead of treating his OCD they started changing his gender in systems not even related to them.
    • His OCD by this point was so bad that he was beginning to refuse to defecate because it was dirty.
    • He would use so much toilet paper that it would flood the entire room with water and feces.
      • Yet GIDs referral is what his counselor thought was more important.
        • “I’d be in tears because CAMHS is treating him as a woman and saying all this will be cured when he goes to the Tavistock.’ How, she asks angrily, were the Tavistock going to deal with her son’s severe OCD?”
    • They refused to even acknowledge his severe OCD and were hellbent on getting him on cross sex hormones.
  • Tavishock tried to push that Alex had to go solo and they did not want his mom with him.
    • They gave him an antipsychotic and told him to self administer it so that he could make the trip.
      • He reacted so badly because of his OCD on the way on his own that police had to help him get home.
  • When checking her son’s social media she found out that they had connected her son to an entire community that seemed to be grooming him to get a sex change.
  • He began to have hallucinations connected to his untreated OCD seeing bugs crawling on the walls and was unable to even sit down if he left his room.
    • He went from general agoraphobia to complete inability to leave his bedroom.
  • Since he was so mentally ill and symptomatic that he could not make the trip they sent one of their senior doctors to his house.
    • This was against his mother’s wishes who told them that his OCD needs to be treated and that changing his gender is not going to help his OCD.
  • They started making appointments behind the mother’s back for her severely mentally ill son to address transitioning medically.
    • They sent her a letter stating.
      • “Alex’s GIDS clinician wrote to CAMHS beforehand, copying Diana in. The letter acknowledges Diana’s ‘alarm’ at how severe Alex’s OCD was and how it was manifesting. They appreciated how this was the priority for her, but stressed that Alex’s gender dysphoria was ‘acute’ and that he understood that physical treatment to confirm his identity would not solve his OCD. There was no reason in principle, the GIDS clinician wrote, that Alex’s GIDS assessment could not continue alongside CAMHS’s work on his OCD. But it was acknowledged that the latter was impacting on his ability to attend GIDS appointments.”
  • After this she pulled her son out of the NHS and found a private counselor.
    • Two years later with his OCD and autism being treated he said he was “through with gender.”
  • CHAMS and GIDs destroyed the relationship between Alex and his mother making a mentally ill teenager believe horrible things were being done by her.
    • It appears they also made Alex believe that his being gay was related to being a paedophile and that his mental illness made him wish to be a woman to escape this label.
  • “Diana still struggles to understand how any stretched NHS service would send a senior clinician several hours across the country to meet someone with mental health problems so severe that they were not attending school, and could not leave their home to attend appointments. To then raise the possibility of physical transition – arguably the most invasive option – as a way forward at the very first appointment is beyond her.”

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

We are basically living through Operation Snow White, but behalf on trannies and child butcherers. Xenu help us.