VTuber Pikamee retires from streaming after trans pushback over Hogwarts Legacy

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I've spent some time pondering the Trans Problem. Ive even discussed it with real people. Most think the Troons are sad at best and retarded/dangerous at worst. I don't think that many people actually takes them seriously they just feel they have to because of the GOCK held to their head at all times.
Unironically i almost feel bad for them, it's just tragic reading about how they manage to fuck up their life and feel miserable all the time despite taking all the supposed steps to cure them of their mental illness, making things worse as they dig a deeper hole for themselves.
Every time i laugh at a retarded thing a troon does part of me winces knowing that while yes it is funny and retarded there is a real person behind that weirdness, either led to believe they are trans because apparently one cannot be feminine/masculine without immediately being shafted into troondom, or someone who has a genuine mental sickness that makes their life miserable. (with the occasional degenerate that does it for some weird sexual gratification, no sympathies go out towards them.)

When meeting and talking to one IRL it's just uncomfortable, people are being polite because they don't want to offend anyone, it is a double whammy because for the troon it's equally deceitful as they're lulled into a sense that people actually see them as a man or woman while in reality they're just trying to be kind and supportive.
As they get egged on shit gets worse and eventually they literally get their genitals mutilated and people are supposed to believe this is ok, if you ever glanced at the SRS thread you know you're not doing ANYONE except plastic surgeons and pharma companies a favor by promoting it as an actual treatment for gender dysphoria.

Troons are disgusting, usually selfish and incomprehensibly strange, and yet i think it's a tragedy above all else.
It's a toxic cesspool of a community/echo chamber that grooms people into a life of misery, a self feeding machine of mental illness.
Perhaps if people could just say out loud in public that no they do not pass and that they are very sick in the head things would be better, not out of any desire to make these people more miserable then they already are but rather to at least try and help them, not drive them down a path of delusion and self mutilation.

Ok rant over, yeah trannies are a sad bunch of degenerates.
 
/vt/ itself is especially bad because even though the site still refuses to make an e-celeb board, mods hate it when you talk about the IRL aspects of vtubing. They want to feed into the parasocial aspects of the characters seeming "real" (despite a lot of people just using their character as a personal avatar with some occasional roleplay).
I am honestly surprised that we don't have any vtuber lolcows unless I'm ⏰
There are a fuckton of potential lolcows that are vtubers, but they're all small and tend to crab bucket each other before any of them get too big. Tubers that get big usually wind up having at least one tard wrangler on them so they can't be milked as much if they are lolcow material.
 
Phase management's already throttling conversation on this. Tenma had to edit her tweet. Lia is now suddenly doing a Hogwarts stream, which I suppose is her own cheeky way of flipping the bird but I doubt she'll go further than that. I wouldn't get my hopes up that Pippa or anyone else will do the truly based thing and address the problem honestly. They'll be vague about it like everyone else has been, whine for a little, and dance around the issue because they're afraid of their management or of those e-bucks drying up. As fun as the content can be, you'd be wise not to look up to any of these people. At the end of the day, dress them up however you wish, an e-celeb's an e-celeb. And none of them truly care about anything more than their own popularity, validation, and money.
Any attempt by "Phase management" to squash conversation about this from V-Tubers is only going to galvanize the people currently calling for Total Troon/Bully Death even further, via Streisand Effect. V-Tubing is not (just) about the anime avatar e-celebs, it's about their anime avatar followers as well.
 
Ancedotally, I know several bronies who have since trooned out. One of them introduced me to Chris-chan and the CWCki back in the day.
Yeah, same, the space is rotten with them. I just wanted to point out that these are the same tactics troons have been using for quite a while, infesting hobbies and then manufacturing consent by being the loudest. They'll do whatever it takes too, bitching to corps, getting people fired, going after family members of targets, using social media and those who own it as a cudgel, and much more.
Outsiders of the group they are taking over don't really notice it until post-infestation, because the actual core group mostly wants to be left alone. Table top gaming is something that I might have thought was just mostly made up of troons and other undesirables had I not known some people were into it before they seized that scene.
 
A meme describing the current situation with all 3 parties:
spingebill pikamee meme.png
 
This is exactly why she can get away with being over the top. She's a fucking cartoon character with an exaggerated personality. She's a lot calmer and more measured on her old personal channel (also a vtuber). Also she's talked about her childhood mold collection. Showing her face is no longer an option.
There is a third option to not show her face at all. Many people do just that. And sorry but the very website we're posting on clearly demonstrates that you do not need to pretend to be an anime girl to be really exaggerated.
 

Pippa has such potential, she could be such a good normal streamer if not for the weird VTuber style. She's probably like 30 or something, we all know she isn't really an anime girl, so there's this weird creepy sense hovering over it where we all have to pretend like this is normal.


If Alex Jones or whoever you like on TV wore a batman mask or something at all times and tried to act like he was batman, it would come across as creepy and bizarre and completely undermine anything he said. You can see the software glitching regularly if they blink wrong or something, I don't understand the level of coom you have to be on to watch this stuff without cringing.

Pippa is the closest we'll get to Jim 2.0, but she has a different kind of cancer.
Pippa is a normie and has normie liberal opinions. She just plays the character to tap into a specific audience.
 
I don't know why people on 4chan haven't left for here yet. It has been cucked since GG when we found out M00T had a direct line of communication with Anita Sarkeesian and asked her how to deal with GG. And also cucked mods are from all boards.
Simple. They're familiar with the space and enjoy the kind of speech they usually don't get express in most normal spaces. Despite them literally under the shadow of the troon.

Also, it is unironically the go-to for anyone who gets sick of Cathedral platforms. There is also the fact that this forum is still fairly obscure despite all the controversy.
 
If Alex Jones or whoever you like on TV wore a batman mask or something at all times and tried to act like he was batman, it would come across as creepy and bizarre and completely undermine anything he said.
if i'm going to get my news from anyone, i would definitely choose alex jones in a batman mask, dude, what are you talking about?
 
Love how all the vtubers, drama channels, and twitterfags speaking out about this are making it about cyberbullying and being extremely vague because no one has enough spine to name the troon.
I hate the current castrated society that we live in, were we can't outright call this shit for what it is, utter lunacy.

It reminds me how every single time that someone ask Null why the user's here are so "hateful" or "polarised " the answer will always be the same. Nowhere else are you able to speak openly about this shit and it's really frustrating.

Of course people are going to end up polarised when you can see plainly as day what troons are doing but everyone has to bend the knee or risk being harassed. That is, for any other site other than the farms.
 
Unironically i almost feel bad for them, it's just tragic reading about how they manage to fuck up their life and feel miserable all the time despite taking all the supposed steps to cure them of their mental illness, making things worse as they dig a deeper hole for themselves.
Every time i laugh at a retarded thing a troon does part of me winces knowing that while yes it is funny and retarded there is a real person behind that weirdness, either led to believe they are trans because apparently one cannot be feminine/masculine without immediately being shafted into troondom, or someone who has a genuine mental sickness that makes their life miserable. (with the occasional degenerate that does it for some weird sexual gratification, no sympathies go out towards them.)

When meeting and talking to one IRL it's just uncomfortable, people are being polite because they don't want to offend anyone, it is a double whammy because for the troon it's equally deceitful as they're lulled into a sense that people actually see them as a man or woman while in reality they're just trying to be kind and supportive.
As they get egged on shit gets worse and eventually they literally get their genitals mutilated and people are supposed to believe this is ok, if you ever glanced at the SRS thread you know you're not doing ANYONE except plastic surgeons and pharma companies a favor by promoting it as an actual treatment for gender dysphoria.

Troons are disgusting, usually selfish and incomprehensibly strange, and yet i think it's a tragedy above all else.
It's a toxic cesspool of a community/echo chamber that grooms people into a life of misery, a self feeding machine of mental illness.
Perhaps if people could just say out loud in public that no they do not pass and that they are very sick in the head things would be better, not out of any desire to make these people more miserable then they already are but rather to at least try and help them, not drive them down a path of delusion and self mutilation.

Ok rant over, yeah trannies are a sad bunch of degenerates.
Don't extend any sympathy or empathy to those who wouldn't give you any in return.
 
Simple. They're familiar with the space and enjoy the kind of speech they usually don't get express in most normal spaces. Despite them literally under the shadow of the troon.

Also, it is unironically the go-to for anyone who gets sick of Cathedral platforms. There is also the fact that this forum is still fairly obscure despite all the controversy.
While yes it is not in the cathedral. It is like a designated opposition space. It is like a "free speech zone" on a college campus. It isn't actually free and is in all honesty probably monitored and manipulated more than if you were to gather in some ally behind a building.
 
Simple. They're familiar with the space and enjoy the kind of speech they usually don't get express in most normal spaces. Despite them literally under the shadow of the troon.

Also, it is unironically the go-to for anyone who gets sick of Cathedral platforms. There is also the fact that this forum is still fairly obscure despite all the controversy.
This. Also adding that altchans always devolve into tribalism, circlejerking, and purity spiraling to the point of becoming dead because they gatekept their space hard enough to keep potential quality posters out from their tiny spaces of le comfort and le eternal spiritual boomerdom. They also hate everyone from 4chan and they can tell from the way someone posts. For example, offshoot boards from /a/ would always devolve into roleplaying and depression ronery posting. I am certain that some of the tranny mods on 4chan are active in those imageboards
 
Any attempt by "Phase management" to squash conversation about this from V-Tubers is only going to galvanize the people currently calling for Total Troon/Bully Death even further, via Streisand Effect. V-Tubing is not (just) about the anime avatar e-celebs, it's about their anime avatar followers as well.
Not to continue to be a wet blanket, but many of those avatars are troons themselves. And even if the majority weren't, I've yet to see that anger or the Streisand Effect lead to anything but a little bitching and memeing in the short term followed by silence as people adapt to the new paradigm and move on to their next distraction to consoom, just like with every internet outrage before it going back to gamergate, chanology, and occupy walstreet. Sorry I don't see more people joining the TOTAL TRANNY DEATH bandwagon or anything meaningful coming of it. Especially when the e-celeb personalities they simp for are begging them to quiet down about it because "what about muh monetization!?" and "guys don't get political".
 
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