Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

You're saying that like the Santa Muerte cult isn't directly descended from Aztec juju mysticism.
Right, because all Mexicans are members of Santa Muerte just like all Americans are members of the Mafia or Hells Angels and we're all directly related to rez natives, right?

Tell me you have never been anywhere in Mexico besides a border town shit hole without telling me you have never been anywhere in Mexico.
 
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Superstitions aside, I don't think you can convince that you can win a war with ruzzia with those lanky ass arms and lame accuracy :story:
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I'm sure there's enough patriotic Ukrainians willing to donate their blood, right?
Right?
*looks at Ukrainian refugees just a few kilometers away from my house*
Right...?
Pictured: Wagner culo clenching the shit out of Ukrainian's neck at Bakhmut, 2023.
 
It's the same design and layout with all these youtube war commenters. Here's one from noted draft dodger Denys. He looks so happy and soy while his countrymen die. Reminds me of Vince...
Vince is one of the smarter ones because he knew just how fucking incompetent the Ukrainian government was thanks to living in it and realised he needed to GTFO.

I mean their tactics are throwing as much cannon fodder into an unwinnable area and hoping to God that the Russians throw down their arms and run away from 50 year old out of shape plumbers carrying a slingshot. Vince would absolutely be dead by now had he stayed.
 
Ironically, at this point they'd probably be better off holding up for a siege and then coordinating with forces on the outside to plan a break through and escape. If they just try to run now, they're just going to get absolutely blasted by indirect fire on the few remaining exit points.
Debaltseve 2.0
 
That's an old clip. The context is he's saying the US (and the rest of NATO) will have to do that if Russia wins and pushes into Poland and Romania, etc. afterward.
Just like most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map good luck expecting them to know where Poland and Romania are. I mean if you spend years telling the demographic that fights your wars they're racists and Nazis who need to step aside for POC, they most likely will. Good luck with Jamal and new green card holder Pedro defending Slavs and Biden's illegal rackets playground.
 
The time to leave has now passed. all the roads are in range of ATGM's and tanks or about to be physically cut. and Ukraine wishes it was disposable troops in the city. at last count they had the

93rd Mechanized Brigade (Western Equipment, Trained in the west)
30th Mechanized Brigade (Western Equipment)
63rd Mechanized Brigade (Veterans)
53rd Mechanized Brigade
24th Mechanized Brigade (Maybe evacuated last week?)
28th Mechanized Brigade
14th Mechanized Brigade
4th Tank Brigade (Veteran unit)
17th Tank Brigade

All either in the city itself, or rotated through it. this is along with a large amount of smaller rifle battalions, TDB units and a large number of national guard units.
Stalingrad 2.0?

History doesn't always repeat, but it does occasionally rhyme.
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Also I posted the destroyed M777 A2 earlier. Guess the Wunderwaffe ist kaput.
I don't know if I'd even call the M777 a "Wunderwaffen." The whole point of the system is that it was meant be a lighter and more easily transportable/deployable 155mm howitzer. None of that matters though if you don't have anything to transport it with or if the other side's artillery completely overwhelms you in terms of number of guns.
 
I don't know if I'd even call the M777 a "Wunderwaffen."
Well I didn't, the Ukrosimps did. There are so many factors that go into a successful campaign. Other than nukes no one weapon is solely responsible for winning battles/wars.

Even nukes are one of those "won the battle but lost the war" kind of things because if your gains are reduced to radioactive ash what's the point other than revanchivism?
 
Well I didn't, the Ukrosimps did.
LOL, these people must really think about wars in terms of a fucking arcade game.

"M777 is the newest and latest, so that means it's better than the vatnik junk and Ukraine is gonna win!"

No, you idiots, it's just a replacement for the M198 that doesn't need a full-sized multi-ton truck or prime mover to tow it and has some modern digital systems like all modern weapons systems do.
 
The problem is, again, morale. Russia had this problem in the beginning, and now Ukraine will. Bakhmut is pretty much a lost cause and the Ukies are either finally doing a limited withdrawal or still reinforcing, despite the West begging them to pull out way earlier and even leaking it to force pressure on them to do so, but not doing it at all.

The whole thing would be a morale blow to the Ukrainian armed forces because of all the resources and lives committed and it basically falling. It wasn't taken in a blitz, but rather a slow grind. It won't energize anyone, because the losses could have been avoided, but for political reasons, weren't. There have been plenty of conflicts where numbers and even tech superiority was on one side, but they were defeated because morale sank into the toilet. Wars like this aren't easy and again, it isn't like Afghanistan or Iraq or any of these conflicts that all of us have basically grown up with.

Those were largely actions against extremely weak state and non-state entitles. This is a war between a massive regional power and a regional alliance/hegemon, completely different. Its also about how they use what they have. Wars in these sort of theaters are combined arms, meaning that no one thing is going to make a difference. Its the resources and how you utilize them. Its why the US actually lost some simulated wargames against Iran because the opposition used small speed boats loaded with explosives and decimated the US Navy (I remember back then the other team cried this was cheating and had them ban the maneuver lol). Its also why Syria, despite the US tech and resource advantage, is still in Assad's hands: he was an ingenious sociopath and used what little he had.

The problem is Ukraine isn't just waging a regular war, its a political war as well. He has to convince the West and his people that their lives are worth something and they actually can make gains. Putin doesn't give a shit because he's an authoritarian and the West futilely hoped that a color revolution would overthrow him (as if China would fucking tolerate a Western Russia right up their ass. Dream the fuck on. They maintain NK and they fucking hate NK just so SK doesn't touch them. Imagine that on the scale of Russia).

This is why the Western 'overthrow' of Putin was fucking retarded and would have directly lead to a conflict with China and Iran, because they would NOT let the US dictate a territory as large as Russia right up on them. I think the whole 'overthrow Putin' thing was just retard bait for fucktarded supporters who dreamed this would be a reality with no geopolitical implications that wouldn't lead to a major conflict with China.

Which is why the West was begging for them to leave Bakhmut and reinforce another defense line, because it was just a waste of resources. Now its pretty much too late and the cauldron is closing, we'll just have to see how bad this goes for them. Its too late to call off the encirclement, and even if by some magic miracle the Ukies manage to hold it off, near every line out of the city has been destroyed, so they've still only got one way in or out, and it does not look good.
 
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For some reason UK media (Channel 4 news) decided to highlight holhol military success around Ugledar...by showing a knocked out American MRAP.

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The Ukrosimps are sustained on copium; Wunderwaffen, Ghost of Keef, jumping to prove they aren't Moskals. One day it will be withdrawn. just like that, and the withdrawal will be very painful.
 
as for the PZH 2000 i think i remember earlier in the war complaints from the afu that it was kind of a piece of shit and that the Polish 'crab' was the way to go. could be wrong
thats because they used them wrong. their little slav minds dont understand complicated machines...
the PRH isnt designed to fire salvo after salvo from a stationary position.. its designed to fire short burst, destroy an enemy artillery nest, move, shot again, etc. its armored like a tank and fast as a tank and doesnt need more time to stop and shot than a tank and it even can defend itself against a tank with direct fire. its build to move with an armored force.
 
For some reason UK media (Channel 4 news) decided to highlight holhol military success around Ugledar...by showing a knocked out American MRAP.

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The Ukrosimps are sustained on copium; Wunderwaffen, Ghost of Keef, jumping to prove they aren't Moskals. One day it will be withdrawn. just like that, and the withdrawal will be very painful.
I honestly couldn't believe people thought the 'ghost of Kiev' was fucking real, that was textbook wartime propaganda. I was like 'what the fuck is this, WWII?' and then I saw people going "ITS TOTES REAL GUYZ" and I'm like, "Well, I guess it is. I'll just hide under my desk when the bombs come."
 
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