Over 50 killed. RIP
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Terror Trouble in Orlando
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Does Janet have a thread yet?
I dunno, I was born slightly earlier and i don't really remember much better times. Though I never took an airplane till post 9/11 so the way things are now, seems normal.
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Sky News ran its usual Press Preview. Owen Jones (left wing commenter and complete cunt) who tried to make it all about himself and the LGBT community rather than the general attack that most newspapers are treating it as.
Because homosexuality is now so mainstream in the UK the other commentators treated is as an atttack on anyone who wanted to go out and enjoy themselves. (Gay clubs don't discriminate if straight friends come with them).
Jones does just about every damn thing we see from Lolcows and special snowflakes. Language Policing, demanding it be more about them, and pretending they attacked a special class.
As said, Homosexuality's mainstream nature in the UK means it didn't fly at all.
Jones responded and snapped again before storming off of Sky News.
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https://twitter.com/JanLNye/with_replies she's a friggin idiotKill me now
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When did KF turn into World Net Daily? This is truly scary.
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It turned when lolcows became so mainstream that the only difference between a cow and a column writer is how much money they make.
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And sometimes that line is pretty blurred.
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Pardon me if I sound like a regressive leftist in this tragic moment, but I think Islamic terrorism has less to do with religion and more with ethnicity and culture.
Muslims tend to differ, and Russia is a very good example. There are Tatars, and there are Chechens - both are Muslim, but Tatars don't blow up metro trains and passenger airplanes, and Wahhabism isn't popular there, despite attempts by Islamists to spread their ideology in Tatarstan back in the 90s and 00s. Their relatives, Lipka Tatars, are similar - they are the descendants of Tatar warlords and their war parties from the Golden Horde, who defected to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and were granted land with freedom to follow their religion by the Grand Dukes (multicultural horror!). Nevertheless, they kept quiet, adopted the local language and customs, and lived side-by-side with Christians and Jews in peace; a few of them still do today in Belarusian and Polish countryside. Crimean Tatars, despite their past history of raids against neighbouring countries, and Muslim Slavs like Bosniaks aren't fanatic as well.
My opinion is - there are peoples which are more inclined towards such violence, and vice versa. Muslim people who don't oppose others tend to be less inclined towards Islamism, and vice versa - it depends on the level of xenophobia in their society. Islamic terrorism is simple xenophobic hatred towards other cultures, religions and ways of life, not unlike similar violent beliefs elsewhere, and whatever they cite from Quran is simply an excuse to justify dividing people into "us and them" - for example, Chechen Islamism originated from similarly violent Chechen nationalism, which was based on hatred of Russians. In my opinion, Islamism originates from the society itself and its hatred of others. If intolerance and violence towards others was ingrained in Islam itself, as claimed by people like Milo, it would be present everywhere, no matter the country, nation and culture, like it happens with totalitarian sects and cults - you can't say that, for example, American Scientologists are violent assholes, but British ones help old ladies cross the street, and German ones aren't bad. They all want your money, no matter if they are in USA, Russia or Papua New Guinea, because they are a sect, and that's what they aim to do from the start. However, Tatar Islamic terrorists can hardly be found, but Arabs...
My opinion is - there are peoples which are more inclined towards such violence, and vice versa. Muslim people who don't oppose others tend to be less inclined towards Islamism, and vice versa - it depends on the level of xenophobia in their society. Islamic terrorism is simple xenophobic hatred towards other cultures, religions and ways of life, not unlike similar violent beliefs elsewhere, and whatever they cite from Quran is simply an excuse to justify dividing people into "us and them" - for example, Chechen Islamism originated from similarly violent Chechen nationalism, which was based on hatred of Russians. In my opinion, Islamism originates from the society itself and its hatred of others. If intolerance and violence towards others was ingrained in Islam itself, as claimed by people like Milo, it would be present everywhere, no matter the country, nation and culture, like it happens with totalitarian sects and cults - you can't say that, for example, American Scientologists are violent assholes, but British ones help old ladies cross the street, and German ones aren't bad. They all want your money, no matter if they are in USA, Russia or Papua New Guinea, because they are a sect, and that's what they aim to do from the start. However, Tatar Islamic terrorists can hardly be found, but Arabs...
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There are no Tatar terrorists because the last time the Tartars tried to step out of line and oppose the ethnic Slav majority, Stalin deported them en masse to Central Asia and punished them with exile for the next half century. So when they were finally allowed to return home in the '80s and '90s, the Tartars had gained a respectful fear of the Soviet/Russian authorities and were not willing to defy them again for fear of being ethnically cleansed for the second time in fifty years. Similar story with the Albanian Kosavars and Muslim Bosnians. Even though they were supported with Wahabbi money and volunteers from the Gulf states during the Yugoslav Wars, they didn't end up turning full extremist because they came so close to being totally annihilated as a people by the Serbs and learned to fear and respect their non-Muslim neighbors, learning the hard way that peaceful coexistence is preferable to genocide.
But it is a different story for the Chechens. Sure, the Russians leveled Grozny and killed a couple thousand Chechens during the war, but it wasn't a proper ethnic cleansing, and as a result the Chechens never learned to properly fear the Russian state, so they keep doing terrorist acts.
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By Tatars, I meant Tatars from Tatarstan - they weren't deported and have good relationship with Russians. I agree with you about Crimean Tatars and others, though.
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Kys "Tranny Oakley". Asshole.
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Oh look guys. SJWs are no longer content with one bigoted, shaming made-up word (mansplaining), now we've got straightsplaining too!
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Kys "Tranny Oakley". Asshole.
"I don't care that you've bodies stacked up in the corridor, you're covered in dead people's blood, you haven't slept since twelve hours before the attack and the single attempt you made at a quick nap on your desk was filled with monsters and death and now you're too afraid to ever sleep again, or that you can't figure out to even begin how to explain to your five year old why their Mummy/Daddy was so sad when they rang you to tell you they loved you and missed you and wanted you home to read them their bedtime story, I don't care if you're still trying to cope with all of those people who keep coming in because their son/daughter/other went out clubbing and hasn't come home yet, I don't care that 80% of the paramedics, firefighters, and other emergency personnel that responded to the scene have been put on stress leave because they're all in a collective gibbering heap of mental breakdown, every single music making device in your entire building is turned up high enough to shake the windows because you and your colleagues are trying to drown out the screams of the victims and the noise of the gunshots in your collective heads, there's news crews on your cousin's stepmother's adopted brother's wife's front verandah to try and terrorise them into blurting out some random and nonsensical factoid about you that can be turned into a news headline saying that the entire shooting happened because of your own personal incompetence, you've an endless stream of traumatised victims and witnesses stumbing through the building and into the interview rooms, you've been sent to the hospital only once to conduct more interviews with the wounded survivors but had to leave in a hurry when the nurses took one look at you and tried to sedate you so they could tie you onto a bed and at least attempt to stabilise you physically and mentally, or that you can't stop crying all the time and you're trying to cover it up with a sudden passion for raw onion sandwiches, you have no comprehension of my pain so don't get my pronouns wrong, shitlord."
I hate cops as a general rule because all of the ones I've personally met have been dicks, but fuck, they're not automatons, they're human beings who're in the middle of what will (hopefully) be the worst time of their professional careers and maybe even of their entire personal lives as well. They've an insanely huge and horrific mess to sort out and come to grips with as they try to identify the bodies and question the bereaved and traumatised. Every time they step outside of their admin building all they can hear is the theme song from Jaws because there's more reporters circling around than there are coppers within a 500km radius. And this is assuming that none of them knew the people who died.
There are times and events in life where you keep your mouth shut when you hear something that you don't think is right, for the simple reason that the ones speaking are in such a fucked up situation that they're going to say things they don't mean or that they don't think about before they say it. Such as, oh, I don't know, trying to identify a fucking body and releasing that name into the media. You've just identified body #28. Do you A: Find a legal name and identify the body by that name, and then move on to bodies #29 through to #50, or do you B: Liaise with the PR department and hold meetings to discuss the correct approach and sensitive handling of minorities, and make certain to take the time to understand how perfect and precious was the life that was lost, even though you're not worthy to do so.
Select A, you're a human being in a war zone you had no idea that was about to happen and suddenly you can't move for all of the corpses, select B, you're a royal fuckwit.
I've no doubt that the trans people who died would want to be called by the name they've now. However, given the circumstances, you can't blame the coppers for finding the relevant legal name, releasing it, and moving onto the next corpse. It has to be fucking done. Because what's worse than someone giving out the wrong name? It's someone who won't name you at all.
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Forgive me if this has already been posted (didn't see it).
Sarah Silverman being racist, unfunny and factually wrong. Makes a change from her just being sexist and unfunny I suppose.
Sarah Silverman being racist, unfunny and factually wrong. Makes a change from her just being sexist and unfunny I suppose.
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Nothing new, Silverman is a professional edgelord like Milo. She knows exactly what she's doing.
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Have you seen her jesus loves abortion sketch? She's exactly the left wing version of Milo, someone who agitates for fame. The only difference is she trolls rednecks instead of overly sensitive college kids.
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This is probably powerleveling, but fuck it. I live 6 miles from Pulse. I lost a couple co-workers in this, and several others fought to carry injured people to safety. Most of my friends were involved, either because they lost somebody or they knew people who were there that night. I don't see this city in the same light anymore.
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Something strange going on....
https://www.intellihub.com/multiple-suspects-orlando-media-blackout-eyewitness-accounts/
Not the most reliable of sources, but this is rather odd.
https://www.intellihub.com/multiple-suspects-orlando-media-blackout-eyewitness-accounts/
Not the most reliable of sources, but this is rather odd.