Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Why are libertards pro-ruzzkie is a unsolved mystery.
They always been pro-USSR/Russia, anti-American and are making due with an U.S. proxy getting shot at. Those who pro-Russia and not Marxist, communist or socialist, they're contiarians out to get American interests fucked as they're too chickenshit to do anything other bitch and whine about Biden on their smartphones. Plus they along with the libertards never got over the Cold War and old world order ending. And are uber scared of the West "poking the bear" cause of them Russian nukes. So they rather let Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe be re-enslaved again and/or genocided then possibly risk Putin stopped being a faggot and push the button.

Edit: The contiarians I am referring are the ones posting articles on Breitbart, ZeroHedge, Thegatewaypundit, and other "conservative" bloggers and commenters in the comment sections.
 
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This makes no sense at all.

Firstly, this is a small territorial defense unit in AFU composed from Russians (former PoW or so who just don't need to be affiled with quickly decomposing ruzzian state or current gov. of ruzzia. They have some connection with ongoing (so-called) partisian movement in ruzzia (more like a civil unrest at this moment than a badass partisans/terrorists, but some firesthey probably started) but still they have none units able to penetrate so deeply into ruzzia.

But also they was reports about skyrocketing crims with using guns in Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod oblasts.

So I bet fights in Bryansk oblasts are made by or local criminals (maybye one action go very wrong) or by rebelling ruzzkie soldiers not connected with RVC. Videos in my opinion are just quick and dirt damage control made by FSB.
 
I didn't see where is that way, but OK.

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https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/46584 <--- funny how ruzzia is winning. Non-propaganda sources states that attack wasn't conducted by ukrainian forces, but a pack of wild wagnetards or just local bandits.

Of course in cope thread they are mad about how Ukraine is responsible for wild gunners in ruzzia armed by Piggozhin, who is handing guns to degenerated prisioners and crimminals for w whole year... :)

I hope we will see more and more such incidents in ruzzia. I think about this as a retribution for ruzzkie conducted massacres in Butcha and so one.
I just saw the news, it's hilariously absurd. Ukraine would never waste a recon group on a pointless operation like this, it smells like a gay op, especially because Putin instantly reacted to this non-event and is conducting an emergency security council meeting. This is meant to justify something they're about to do.
Everything I've seen so far looks haphazard as fuck.
Edit: Apparently, the people responsible basically went in for a propaganda photo-op, claim to not have taken any hostages and that they weren't planning to. Whoever they are, I wouldn't exclude the involvement of FSB.
It's just in time for Putin to have something to distract people from his ongoing failure in Ukraine.

Unrelated:
Watch this totally legit footage of Russians clearing an alleged Ukrainian compound from the other day: https://t.me/nexta_live/47523
Pay attention to camera angles, it's hilarious how staged this shit is. I especially like the part where they enter the basement with camera clearly already set up inside going "Clear!" like anyone other than camera crew could be there ROFL
 
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This makes no sense at all.

Firstly, this is a small territorial defense unit in AFU composed from Russians (former PoW or so who just don't need to be affiled with quickly decomposing ruzzian state or current gov. of ruzzia. They have some connection with ongoing (so-called) partisian movement in ruzzia (more like a civil unrest at this moment than a badass partisans/terrorists, but some firesthey probably started) but still they have none units able to penetrate so deeply into ruzzia.

But also they was reports about skyrocketing crims with using guns in Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod oblasts.

So I bet fights in Bryansk oblasts are made by or local criminals (maybye one action go very wrong) or by rebelling ruzzkie soldiers not connected with RVC. Videos in my opinion are just quick and dirt damage control made by FSB.
The backbone of RVC are Russian far-right activists who fled Russia after 2014, some fought in Azov or other battalions before 2022. Their leader, Denis "White Rex" Nikitin is a neo-nazi/white nationalist.
The village they "attacked" is literally 600m away from the border, it's not some epic deep raid. Also, RVC leader himself is in these videos, but of course it must be FSB glowop.
 
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Also, RVC leader himself is in these videos, but of course it must be FSB glowop.

That videos where a full metal jacket guys with full and regular ukrainian uniform are standing in middle of ruzzia must be legit.

All of this stinks like shit - group of enemies soldiers unnoticed breaks border in middle of the day (they have fuckin white uniforms), goes into village and are attacking a random schoolbus. In region where schools are closed and kids are learning via internet.

Even if Ukraine will decide to make a raid into ruzzia target was stupid as shit. If I will be at charge I will probably point anything valuable, at least local police station or something related to the state.

I bet on wild gunners (wagnertards), local crimminals or so, not for any kind of undercover special as fuck operation. Videos are a damage control from FSB ('no, this isn't consequence of arming prisioners/having many unpaid soldiers/whatever but this is consequence of war') or/and just a false admit by RVC.

BUT... if FSB isn't telling us a lie this is so emberassing for ruzzia. They failed even to keep frontline to protect own land and didn't give a fuck about evacuating area of potetnial combat from civilians (if it is less than 1 km from frontline/border it is cleary a rear of frontline).

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video from alleged attack/scouting againt ruzzkie AWACS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoqX8YRJb4

Not sure if they planted anything (are ruzzkie/belarussian partisans smart as regular ruzzkie soldiers...) but as we see - arifields aren't protected at all. This A-10 was reported as evacuated for repairs to Taganrog, so probably they do something.

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https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/308848 accident deep in ruzzia, modernized Il-76MD get angry and make fatality on one soul, five more injured.
 
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I frankly don't see how this will have a good ending. For starters I don't see putin just going "whatever" and giving up, dying rumors or not, its all jokes and memes until he's against the wall and decides to nuke ukraine, and while the nuclear powers of nato might or might not fulfil their nuclear suicide pact with the other non-nuke-having countries there's practically zero chances we will go nuclear over ukraine, we wont even sent them a low-cost 1970's plane like the F-16 for SEAD, but we're gonna get nuked to retaliate if kiev gets fried? nigga please, I doubt that if SHTF we will go nuclear if berlin gets nuked, and germany is a massive part of nato. Also the constant almost daily speeches about how "we're standing with ukraine forever and ever because we're besties" are giving me a really bad vibe, like its the same shit we were hearing that about afghanistan just 2 years ago and look how that shitshow ended. And we at least pretended to care for 20 years, its been barely a year of this and we're already doing the "we're totally into this" speeches we were making in kabul in 2019.

But lets say that by fucking chance putin chokes on a banana or gets killed by a falling cope cage and somehow all his successors are massive cucks who would rather lose all face back home (political death sentence) and give up everything including crimea to ukraine, then what? ukraine its destroyed, a huge chunk of their population, particularly women and children which are the future of any nation, are gone and will probably not go back unless forced to since they would be made to leave the comfort of first world countries to return to a homeland that's even poorer and more broken than before. We've already made it clear there wont be any more free money when its time for reconstruction, probably because much like after the fall of the commiezone (aka: that stale joke called the soviet union) the leeches/lobbyists in DC are hoping to go there and buy everything cheap, then let the market sort it out (spoiler: it wont).

And if russia wins without going nuclear I think they will collapse shortly after due to the huge after effects of this bullshit war. The russian men who left to avoid conscription were among the best, they are the educated guys working the STEM jobs that keep russia from truly being "nigeria with snow". Once they have a life abroad they are not going back, specially if they get married with a local. And now the women are leaving too to have their kids in other countries so they can claim citizenship, so that's another group that I doubt will return. All that's gonna be left are the bydlos who can't or wont leave and they are barely smart enough to work an oil rig. The other big export from russia were their weapons and thats done for. Whatever prestige it had left this war completely destroyed it. Any illusion that the russian arms industry was up to par with the west, or even east asia's. its gone. You know shit's bad when the indians reject an offer to buy one of your most modern nuclear attack submarines despite already leasing one and would rather build their own, same with leaving the felon for a domestic stealth fighter.

TL;DR: its fucked, everything its fucked.
I'm fairly sure many Ukrainians will return if the war is over, and the reconstruction will be quite fast. Hell, Russia is already building a lot in Mariupol, there are entire new apartment buildings where there were ruins just months ago. Always look back at Germany and Japan and their reconstruction. Russia was savaged by Nazis too, and it built back better (ish 🥰)
Ukrainians that have left for the West are not similar with the brown and black migrants. I've met quite a few already. These people want to go back, they love their country (arguably most patriotic people in Europe by now), and are not that interested in gibs and welfare. Sure there are bad apples, it's unavoidable in millions of refugees, but in general these people can't wait to return.
As for the war/military part, things are quite bleak indeed. Russia has isolated itself from Europe and the West, the West is weak and unable to find real solutions to such a large, nuclear armed state that is so filled with resentment and hatred. A nuclear attack might not happen, but if it does, unless it's on some Western/NATO city, it's unlikely NATO will retaliate with nukes, as NATO is still the saner part. But that's mildly irrelevant, as it will lead to WW3, mass mobilization of NATO countries and likely invasion of Russia or something. If Russia launches nukes, even China might side against it. Let's hope Russians have a plan to stop such lunacy from happening.
Probably the best choice is to freeze the conflict as much as possible and to give it time to deescalate and hope that things start to cool down. Sadly, Russia did that annexation stuff, which made talks and peace much harder. Those 4 regions are now allegedly Russia, yet they are partially occupied by Ukraine. Or they are Ukraine and partially occupied by Russia. It's full clown world.
 
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I frankly don't see how this will have a good ending. For starters I don't see putin just going "whatever" and giving up, dying rumors or not, its all jokes and memes until he's against the wall and decides to nuke ukraine, and while the nuclear powers of nato might or might not fulfil their nuclear suicide pact with the other non-nuke-having countries there's practically zero chances we will go nuclear over ukraine, we wont even sent them a low-cost 1970's plane like the F-16 for SEAD, but we're gonna get nuked to retaliate if kiev gets fried? nigga please, I doubt that if SHTF we will go nuclear if berlin gets nuked, and germany is a massive part of nato. Also the constant almost daily speeches about how "we're standing with ukraine forever and ever because we're besties" are giving me a really bad vibe, like its the same shit we were hearing that about afghanistan just 2 years ago and look how that shitshow ended. And we at least pretended to care for 20 years, its been barely a year of this and we're already doing the "we're totally into this" speeches we were making in kabul in 2019.

But lets say that by fucking chance putin chokes on a banana or gets killed by a falling cope cage and somehow all his successors are massive cucks who would rather lose all face back home (political death sentence) and give up everything including crimea to ukraine, then what? ukraine its destroyed, a huge chunk of their population, particularly women and children which are the future of any nation, are gone and will probably not go back unless forced to since they would be made to leave the comfort of first world countries to return to a homeland that's even poorer and more broken than before. We've already made it clear there wont be any more free money when its time for reconstruction, probably because much like after the fall of the commiezone (aka: that stale joke called the soviet union) the leeches/lobbyists in DC are hoping to go there and buy everything cheap, then let the market sort it out (spoiler: it wont).

And if russia wins without going nuclear I think they will collapse shortly after due to the huge after effects of this bullshit war. The russian men who left to avoid conscription were among the best, they are the educated guys working the STEM jobs that keep russia from truly being "nigeria with snow". Once they have a life abroad they are not going back, specially if they get married with a local. And now the women are leaving too to have their kids in other countries so they can claim citizenship, so that's another group that I doubt will return. All that's gonna be left are the bydlos who can't or wont leave and they are barely smart enough to work an oil rig. The other big export from russia were their weapons and thats done for. Whatever prestige it had left this war completely destroyed it. Any illusion that the russian arms industry was up to par with the west, or even east asia's. its gone. You know shit's bad when the indians reject an offer to buy one of your most modern nuclear attack submarines despite already leasing one and would rather build their own, same with leaving the felon for a domestic stealth fighter.

TL;DR: its fucked, everything its fucked.
I don't think Russia will actually 'collapse' it's really difficult for a country to actually do so, I also don't think things will get quite as bad as the 90s when Russia lost it's empire and local Oligarchs blundered the country that Russia loves to blame on the West instead of national opportunists because absolutely everything that goes bad in Russia is somehow the West's fault, although things will get bad.

Russia now only has two countries that they can """rely on""" that aren't shitholes in Africa, Belarus which is also a shithole, and fucking North Korea which is probably the biggest non Africa shithole, those being China and India.

India is just playing buddy buddy with Russia for now because they want the cheap gibs and really want to be the big Asian Superpower because they hate China, and China wants to expand it's sphere of influence into the old USSR and CSTO '-stan' countries which interferes with Russia and also wants the gibs before their horrendous age demographics start fucking them over.

Say what you want about how the US dominates Europe, but at least those european countries are for the most part actual allies to the US instead of just wanting the gibs or waiting for an opportunity to backstab them, and for the most part aren't shitholes.

It's why Putin's exceptional demands of NATO '91 borders is one of the dumbest demands in the 21st century from any country, eastern Europe may not love everything about the US, but at least the US doesn't completely destroy any sort of sovereignty like the USSR that Russia glorifies did for half a century.
 
The "Russian Volunteer Corps", which today published a video from the Bryansk region, is made up of Russian emigrants with an active lifestyle. Since August 2022, its fighters have been performing combat tasks as part of the 98th battalion of the Azov-Dnipro Teroborona of the 108th brigade of the Armed Forces.
In today's video shared by the Russians, Denis Nikitin (call sign White Rex) was identified. In December last year, he gave an interview as the commander of the RDK.
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I have been following the Russian Volunteer Corps telegram for months now. They published videos of them guarding Himars rockets and were on Snake Island. They are legit.

White Rex is a White Nationalist that has been around for years setting up MMA gyms and used to be friends with Robert Rundo who is the leader of Rise Above Movement. Rundo's guys have been filming videos for the National Justice Party in the USA.
 
The "Russian Volunteer Corps", which today published a video from the Bryansk region, is made up of Russian emigrants with an active lifestyle. Since August 2022, its fighters have been performing combat tasks as part of the 98th battalion of the Azov-Dnipro Teroborona of the 108th brigade of the Armed Forces.
In today's video shared by the Russians, Denis Nikitin (call sign White Rex) was identified. In December last year, he gave an interview as the commander of the RDK.
Twitter Link

I have been following the Russian Volunteer Corps telegram for months now. They published videos of them guarding Himars rockets and were on Snake Island. They are legit.

White Rex is a White Nationalist that has been around for years setting up MMA gyms and used to be friends with Robert Rundo who is the leader of Rise Above Movement. Rundo's guys have been filming videos for the National Justice Party in the USA.
So it's possible that small group of them made a little incursion to Russia and managed to spook the spooks in Kreml.
 
It probably helps they will be encircling a good portion of soldiers of the AFU
Lmao no, most of the troops are on the flanks and not in the city proper, at most they may encircle a thousand, but every single russian 'GRAND ENCIRCLEMENT' this war so far has been a complete failure at actually catching large numbers of troops or equipment.
 
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It probably helps they will be encircling a good portion of soldiers of the AFU
I don't where this idea the Ruzzkies have that there is some sort of Grand Army in Bakhmut that will be destroyed soon and end the war. There literally cannot be. The city is supplied by a small and heavily shelled roadway. Its logistically impossible for the city proper to have more then two Battalions inside the downtown area proper...

Oh right, logistics. That thing Russia does not understand. Never mind. Sure fellas, there are at LEAST a Quarter-million AFU troops in Bakhmut, and once they are captured literally every military aged male in Ukraine will be off the board.
 
It probably helps they will be encircling a good portion of soldiers of the AFU
People are really ignorant and have no idea how small the numbers directly engaged in combat are most of the time

They think this is 1942 and forces of tens or hundreds of thousands of men and hundreds or thousands of vehicles are slamming into each other or some shit

Reality is nearly all the battles in this war would have barely registered as skirmishes in most historic European wars, or in the American civil war, as far as numbers go
 
The "Russian Volunteer Corps", which today published a video from the Bryansk region, is made up of Russian emigrants with an active lifestyle. Since August 2022, its fighters have been performing combat tasks as part of the 98th battalion of the Azov-Dnipro Teroborona of the 108th brigade of the Armed Forces.
In today's video shared by the Russians, Denis Nikitin (call sign White Rex) was identified. In December last year, he gave an interview as the commander of the RDK.
Twitter Link

I have been following the Russian Volunteer Corps telegram for months now. They published videos of them guarding Himars rockets and were on Snake Island. They are legit.

White Rex is a White Nationalist that has been around for years setting up MMA gyms and used to be friends with Robert Rundo who is the leader of Rise Above Movement. Rundo's guys have been filming videos for the National Justice Party in the USA.
What's the point of this stunt? I really doubt Ukraine command would've ever approved this... it's all Russian media is screeching about right now. If you want to risk poking them, blow up something important instead of giving their propaganda ammo would be a far better idea.
Now they're inventing all kinds of stories regarding what happened.
 
What's the point of this stunt? I really doubt Ukraine command would've ever approved this... it's all Russian media is screeching about right now. If you want to risk poking them, blow up something important instead of giving their propaganda ammo would be a far better idea.
Now they're inventing all kinds of stories regarding what happened.
Russian Media really does not need help screeching about things. If there is nothing available on the day they will just make it up.
Is that why blind and handless ukies keep getting draft notices?

Also why they desperately want every Ukie male who FLED LIKE A RAT ON A SINKING SHIP to come back and win one for the Zipper Zelensky)
In case you haven't noticed the Frontline is thousands of Kilometers long, and Bakhmut is literally just one dot on a massive map.

And has been pointed out repeatedly, the bulk of AFU forces are not IN the city. They are on the flanks, which is where most of the fighting is. I understand the slaughter for Bakhmut is being sold as somehow worth it because its bleeding out Ukraine and Wagner is on the cusp of bagging the entire Division of AFU troops in the area, but the truth is at most they may capture a companies worth of rear guard covering the withdrawel of the light brigade defending the downtown core.
 
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What's the point of this stunt? I really doubt Ukraine command would've ever approved this... it's all Russian media is screeching about right now. If you want to risk poking them, blow up something important instead of giving their propaganda ammo would be a far better idea.
Now they're inventing all kinds of stories regarding what happened.



Here is the translated video.

I have seen many people on social media freaking out about it. But Ukrainian social media seems not to care and are just making memes about it.
 
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What's the point of this stunt? I really doubt Ukraine command would've ever approved this... it's all Russian media is screeching about right now. If you want to risk poking them, blow up something important instead of giving their propaganda ammo would be a far better idea.
Now they're inventing all kinds of stories regarding what happened.
Maybe idea is to provoke.
This makes Russian security services tighten their grip and have good ol' time chasing rebels where there are possibly none.
 
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