Shitty Alternate History Thread - If only the Romans had AK-47's they would've survived...

[Skeletonized Cow]

Tbh why don't we just demand politely request an AH subforum from nool? Some place where we can write our own timelines in our own little spergy ways without needing to walk on eggshells? I mean, it's just some text and sometimes a map, not like we will be uploading the many gigabytes of a seven hour destiny debate stream in full HD? Yeah, KF isnt meant for this shit but we have A(rticles)H(appenings) as well.
We farmers are pretty good at bullying out the absolute tard spergs who write their wish fulfillment mass genocide re-education timelines so I don't think it would be too much of an issue.
And its not like alternate history requires much in the way of moderatorship, its not like a thread is suddenly going to explode and get 100 new pages in an hour.

Even if we aren't going to get our own subforum, a new AH-stories thread might be fun. Perhaps it'd be a good proof-of-concept for the demand for a subforum if said thread gets big enough?

 

[DJ Grelle]

Even if we aren't going to get our own subforum, a new AH-stories thread might be fun. Perhaps it'd be a good proof-of-concept for the demand for a subforum if said thread gets big enough?

We can even just start here.
If anyone has a good AH story he or she has written, please post it.
I've got an idea I'm writing out but that might take a few days...

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

I've got an idea I'm writing out but that might take a few days...

Keep us posted. ;3
If I wasn't so busy with other projects, work and sperging here, I might do a short about Karl-Otto Saur becoming minister for munitions and armaments production instead of Speer.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Since someone brought him up again, here's a recent great decision by Calbear. To my knowledge, the thesis that "warmer climates are disadvantageous for civilization" is still seriously debated in academia and isn't at all a fringe theory. I personally think it's a huge oversimplification at best, but apparently it's "Eurocentric nationalism" and worth a 7 day ban to argue that.

Calbear does this shit a lot. He arbitrarily makes decisions based on his personal knowledge, and outside of maybe World War II, his knowledge is cursory at best. I've seen users prove him dead wrong (with sources), and I've even done so myself once. And I'm not even talking about historical controversies where Calbear has an easy out, I'm talking about basic facts of X being in Y place which no one seriously disputes.

Even if we aren't going to get our own subforum, a new AH-stories thread might be fun. Perhaps it'd be a good proof-of-concept for the demand for a subforum if said thread gets big enough?

The reason an AH subforum here would be cool is because there's a lot of topics you can't discuss on AH.com without a kick for "conspiracy theories." Like I'd love to see some good discussions on how to stop or alter the rise of the Anglo-American banker cartel that has ruled the war the past century, and other shit related to the WEF, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc. Or discussions on PODs that might have averted the dystopia we live in today and other topics like that.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

There is clearly a huge community here of history/Paradox Interactive/alternate history obsessives, enough to drive a subforum.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Since someone brought him up again, here's a recent great decision by Calbear. To my knowledge, the thesis that "warmer climates are disadvantageous for civilization" is still seriously debated in academia and isn't at all a fringe theory. I personally think it's a huge oversimplification at best, but apparently it's "Eurocentric nationalism" and worth a 7 day ban to argue that.

Lee Kuan Yew famously said that air conditioning was one of the most important inventions of the 20th century. Westerners who wear ushankas and comfy jackets to work in the summer because the AC is so strong have no idea what it's like when you have to just live in 85 degree weather all day, every day. Yeah, you get used to it, but it's just a fact that people think clearer and rest easier when they can summon a cool breeze just by pushing a button.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Lee Kuan Yew famously said that air conditioning was one of the most important inventions of the 20th century. Westerners who wear ushankas and comfy jackets to work in the summer because the AC is so strong have no idea what it's like when you have to just live in 85 degree weather all day, every day. Yeah, you get used to it, but it's just a fact that people think clearer and rest easier when they can summon a cool breeze just by pushing a button.

Air conditioning has had a much larger impact on the world than people realize. It is is basically responsible for the existence of the Sun Belt in the United States. People were not interested in living in the South or the Southwest prior to air conditioning, both for the immediate reason of no air conditioning and for the indirect reason that no air conditioning made factories impractical in many places (they'd overheat too much) and so limited economic opportunities.

It was the introduction of AC, not any political or other major economic change, that made places like Florida, Mississippi, and Arizona acceptable for Yankee habitation and so caused the flood of outsiders into the South and the Southwest. Without AC you don't get massive abominations like Phoenix.

I assume that similar processes must have played out in other countries that have a difference between continental temperate and humid subtropical/desert climates.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Since someone brought him up again, here's a recent great decision by Calbear. To my knowledge, the thesis that "warmer climates are disadvantageous for civilization" is still seriously debated in academia and isn't at all a fringe theory. I personally think it's a huge oversimplification at best, but apparently it's "Eurocentric nationalism" and worth a 7 day ban to argue that.

>make claim
>back it up
>get kicked anyway, because CalBear
It's all so tiresome. This is why I only engage in such debates via PM, since that doesn't carry the risk of uneducated jannies kicking me over something they intellectually cannot process.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I think a AH thread for people to spitball stuff might be a good start, and if it grows we can then ask for a subforum.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

I'm game for that now as well due to recent events.

The Hogwarts Legacy thread in Chat has seen Ian become even more a simpering cuck and bow down completely to troons by banning anyone doing even slight 'transphobia' (re: pointing out common sense why they're bad). Those guys are pretty much approving of the Pikimee harassment and mocking anyone who speaks up against them, though Worffan of all people actually seems cognizant of the outside/normie world is starting to get sick of troonery (even if he's couching it in conspiracy theories like it 'played straight into Rowling's hands' or somesuch).

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

I think a AH thread for people to spitball stuff might be a good start, and if it grows we can then ask for a subforum.

I made the thread for you. Hopefully it gains traction.

 

[Radola Gajda]

AltHistHub's new video

An Islamic Russia

Idea of independent Novgorod republic surviving while there being unified Russian state in the south is unrealistic.
Even if Novgorod was catholic and allied to Scandinavian nation . It is only matter of time before Scandinavians are distracted and Russia just walk in and take it.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Idea of independent Novgorod republic surviving while there being unified Russian state in the south is unrealistic.
Even if Novgorod was catholic and allied to Scandinavian nation . It is only matter of time before Scandinavians are distracted and Russia just walk in and take it.

Here's Part 2

 

[JesusChristDenton]

Would stories where an entire nation gets transferred to another world count as alternate history? Because those stories are (most of the time) utterly horrendous.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Would stories where an entire nation gets transferred to another world count as alternate history? Because those stories are (most of the time) utterly horrendous.

Yeah, they're ISOT (Island in the Sea of Time) stories.

1632 and the Destroyermen series are the only two decent ones I've read. As you said, most end up being God awful like most ASB stories.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Idea of independent Novgorod republic surviving while there being unified Russian state in the south is unrealistic.
Even if Novgorod was catholic and allied to Scandinavian nation . It is only matter of time before Scandinavians are distracted and Russia just walk in and take it.

What would stop Novgorod from building their own military to fend-off the Alcohol-Free Russians?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I would like to read a time travel story completely ripping apart Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by showing a modern worker (doesn't have to be white collar, can be blue collar) getting transported to the world of yore and being completely useless due to their inability to actually explain in a practical way how anything works much less recreate it.

 

[millais]

I would like to read a time travel story completely ripping apart Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by showing a modern worker (doesn't have to be white collar, can be blue collar) getting transported to the world of yore and being completely useless due to their inability to actually explain in a practical way how anything works much less recreate it.

The Man Who Came Early by Poul Anderson (wikipedia article)

1950s American GI with an engineering background stationed in Iceland gets transported back in time to Viking Era and tries to leverage his 20th century technical knowledge but fails.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

What would stop Novgorod from building their own military to fend-off the Alcohol-Free Russians?

Grain. They were not self-sufficient in food and imported it mostly from Moscow and other Russian principalities.

 

[millais]

I would like to read a time travel story completely ripping apart Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by showing a modern worker (doesn't have to be white collar, can be blue collar) getting transported to the world of yore and being completely useless due to their inability to actually explain in a practical way how anything works much less recreate it.

funny comedy sketch based on this concept

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