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i cant even watch minute long clips of boogie without wanting to vomit. everything about him is just disgusting
Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.
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ThatDarnIrishMan
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Boogie was coping hard at the end of 2022 as well on stream that PKA had turned on him and used him for clout but dropped him in 2019 after his fall off when they couldn't milk him for clout anymore (his usual excuse for basically everything). Forgetting entirely that he was on their show in March 2020 after his fall from grace which is now their lowest rated show of all time with the entire comments section shitting all over Boogie.
Of course that didn't stop Boogie from claiming in November 2022 on livestream that "I've had lots of PKA fans come up to me at conventions to apologise to me for how the PKA boys treated me." So, despite the hosts being nice enough to invite him on at arguably the time period when he was hated the most and instead him being torn apart by the fans, he considers the fans to support him and the hosts to not.
This shit about "Well, tell PKA to have me on" is cringe. It's entirely likely Boogie could make another appearance on PKA because they've had fallings out with people before and then brought them back on the Podcast. The biggest things that would be stopping it are:
1. The fans. They hate Boogie. PKA fans generally lean right and see Boogie as very disingenuous.
2. Boogie's fans. Boogie repeatedly said on PKA how his fanbase kept warning him not to go onto PKA because "They're Trump supporters". This could be false and just Boogie trying to suck up to the PKA boys by saying "I love you so much I'll even go against my fans for you!"
3. Boogie's last few appearances (outside of his final appearance where it was a trainwreck) generally all unperformed for PKA's average viewership.
4. Boogie is a spiteful bitch who will likely seethe and be annoyed the entire time about Kyle. You can even see how annoyed he was at Kyle in the PKA when he finally started engaging in the conversation like 30 minutes in.
Boogie is super keen to shit on the PKA guys, lie about them, act like other people need to get in contact with them FOR him but at the same time, he is in direct contact with them as he confirmed earlier this month, the PKA podcast is helping him and Wings organise their lolcow podcast (apparently, I'm not sure if I believe this because why would Keemstar no longer be involved?).
Weirdly when Boogie was talking about the PKA podcast in February 2023, he didn't talk about how the fans all adored and loved him. Maybe he took 5 minutes to check the PKA Subreddit when he made his cancer announcement and noticed it was 99% negative and either not believing him or laughing at him.
Edit: Found my old stats I made for a video.
Boogie has appeared on 13 podcasts (12 if you count as a real 'guest' because the 13th was him forgetting the podcast was on and showing up for only 10 minutes) so they changed the appearance time for him.
Boogie's first appearance was 15th June 2013 on episode 137, it got 394k views when the channel average was 338k at the time so not a massive increase for how popular Boogie was at the time. The podcast was also 137 episodes in at the time, it's not like it was a brand new Podcast struggling to get attention so his fantasy that they were trying to get his attention for clout seems weird as they were already performing very well.
He then appeared on:
158 (239k against avg 219k),
170 (240k against avg 170k),
203 (258k against avg 208k),
227 (264k against avg 234.5k)
268 (221k against avg 193k)
287 (169k against avg 189k)
327 (144k against avg 155k)
356 (133k against avg 140k)
371 (157k against avg 142.5k)
414 (128k against avg 140k)
481 (202k against avg 200k)
Him starting to "under-perform" on their channel was PKA287 which was the 18th of June 2016 and they still kept him around even though he was apparently at his peak but he was gaining nothing for them. Since this is 2016, it's more than likely coinciding with the 2016 election and Boogie's audience refusing to watch the podcast because they hated the hosts for being generally right wing.
Boogie's videos even at times like January 2018 when he was appearing on 371 were generally averaging 250k to 500k views per video but he could only get 157k viewership on their podcast which was the only time since 2016 when he really broke the record of him under-performing and it's only 10% above their average viewership, not groundbreaking numbers in line with his own average video views of the time.
In March 2020, the PKA podcast was getting better average views per video than Boogie was but they still invited him on to their Podcast, meaning it's far more likely he was trying to use them for clout and to repair his broken public image (likely because since 2019, he's barely had any podcast appearances or interviews since no one is willing to work with him).
Boogie had been a relatively well known recurring guest on PKA and has tried to claim that he likely has been on nearly the most. He'd be top 10 probably, but he's definitely not close to being their most common guest since he only appeared 12 times in 620+ episodes, with all of his appearances being between 137 to 481, meaning he appeared once every 30ish episodes.
Boogie's first appearance was 15th June 2013 on episode 137, it got 394k views when the channel average was 338k at the time so not a massive increase for how popular Boogie was at the time. The podcast was also 137 episodes in at the time, it's not like it was a brand new Podcast struggling to get attention so his fantasy that they were trying to get his attention for clout seems weird as they were already performing very well.
He then appeared on:
158 (239k against avg 219k),
170 (240k against avg 170k),
203 (258k against avg 208k),
227 (264k against avg 234.5k)
268 (221k against avg 193k)
287 (169k against avg 189k)
327 (144k against avg 155k)
356 (133k against avg 140k)
371 (157k against avg 142.5k)
414 (128k against avg 140k)
481 (202k against avg 200k)
Him starting to "under-perform" on their channel was PKA287 which was the 18th of June 2016 and they still kept him around even though he was apparently at his peak but he was gaining nothing for them. Since this is 2016, it's more than likely coinciding with the 2016 election and Boogie's audience refusing to watch the podcast because they hated the hosts for being generally right wing.
Boogie's videos even at times like January 2018 when he was appearing on 371 were generally averaging 250k to 500k views per video but he could only get 157k viewership on their podcast which was the only time since 2016 when he really broke the record of him under-performing and it's only 10% above their average viewership, not groundbreaking numbers in line with his own average video views of the time.
In March 2020, the PKA podcast was getting better average views per video than Boogie was but they still invited him on to their Podcast, meaning it's far more likely he was trying to use them for clout and to repair his broken public image (likely because since 2019, he's barely had any podcast appearances or interviews since no one is willing to work with him).
Boogie had been a relatively well known recurring guest on PKA and has tried to claim that he likely has been on nearly the most. He'd be top 10 probably, but he's definitely not close to being their most common guest since he only appeared 12 times in 620+ episodes, with all of his appearances being between 137 to 481, meaning he appeared once every 30ish episodes.
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I've just randomly met a group of biggest Boogie fans and they all said they are sorry for Boogie badmouthing you. They also said that Boogie lies all the time, provoked Frank Hassle, doesn't have a therapist, verbally abused Dez (not physically), Lucy Foxx tells the truth, and that Boogie is over 400 pounds and they would not have HAMS with him
I've just randomly met a group of biggest Boogie fans and they all said they are sorry for Boogie badmouthing you. They also said that Boogie lies all the time, provoked Frank Hassle, doesn't have a therapist, verbally abused Dez (not physically), Lucy Foxx tells the truth, and that Boogie is over 400 pounds and they would not have HAMS with him
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we're getting 500 http errors because boogie sat on the kiwi farms server and broke it
he is now claiming that null and the server hardware raped him
he is now claiming that null and the server hardware raped him
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I can’t believe im saying this, but his ai francis video is really well done and was actually funny. It’s like night and day compared to all other videos he has made since even before dez left.
How is that possible? is it like a part of the doc that boogie uploaded himself? is mike behind this?
How is that possible? is it like a part of the doc that boogie uploaded himself? is mike behind this?
Lugubrious
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Oh you think Boogie is a lying hypocrite? Sorry he cant improve that because it's not his reality.
Love ya tho, rofl. Do better. (53 views oh boy)
Love ya tho, rofl. Do better. (53 views oh boy)
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As interesting as this idea is, I don’t think psychiatrists are (ethically) allowed to report on patients, at least not while they’re still actively seeing them.
I may be wrong on that, but I think the general rule is you keep their confidence unless you’re convinced they’re putting you or others at immediate risk.
Is Wilson Lambert one of Boogies socks? We all know Boogie likes to try to manipulate his audience into requesting he do things (go on PKA, start an Onlyfans, tell stories about hiring escorts) so he can have someone else to blame if there’s any pushback, so I’m (drunk and) curious is this is just another pathetic manipulation.
You made some great points but I only quoted this for that line combined with your username.
Yea I’m incredibly intoxicated, yes I will take my dumb ratings.
I wish there was a “respectfully disagree” rating. I did watch it and I admit my thoughts were a “Boogie wrote this and is just deflecting criticism by saying an AI did it, isn’t he?”
And now I realize I’d love for a video from Boogie where he can’t deflect responsibility and to see how he reacts. He sets up every move, every scenario in his life so he can maintain plausible deniability in some way.
I’ve never met an adult who avoids taking any responsibility, especially for their own thoughts and actions.
Daaamn that is a top tier internet approved avoidance tactic.
“Sorry, readers. I can’t improve myself in any way or form because in my special Big Boy Bubble who is perfect I every way but hey, good luck to you for having to deal with the kind of person you described!”
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I just wanna punch this lardbag in the face.
Isn't this all things he already apologized for in one way or another before? Apologized and said he would "work on" but now all of a sudden that like just your opinion man?
Especially the clickbait part, he admitted to it so many times its retarded but now that's just a delusion?
What?!
Administrator Flotsam
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If Clum is digging his own grave and making a pro-lies Boogie documentary, I think he'd be interviewing the closest ''friends'' Boogie has remaining ie Keemstar, KbaC and probably Wings; with the plan to make docs on KbC or Wings in future. Documentaries on people commonly feature interviews from orbiters in addition to the subject so I'm guessing they're giving their fake-ass takes about Boogie to Clum so it doesn't seem like the doc is all just Boogie lying into the camera.
But I don't think Boogie understands what's going to happen if he finally owns the haters for once in his life with propaganda. As far as the bigger (and ignorant) fish are concerned, the Boogie vs his haters drama is just a slapfight between weirdos. Once it enters the mainstream thanks to the documentary, everyone with a voice who has had bad experiences with Boogie (and that's many people by now) will pitch in about how its wrong. All he's doing is painting a target on his enormous, woman-untouched back.
And if he thinks he can embrace his true self and be a roach living off of bad PR like DSP, he's wrong because even DSP puts in daily effort and does something instead of pretending to be an insufferable been-there done-that sage on twitter and acting like he deserves an audience because of it.
But I don't think Boogie understands what's going to happen if he finally owns the haters for once in his life with propaganda. As far as the bigger (and ignorant) fish are concerned, the Boogie vs his haters drama is just a slapfight between weirdos. Once it enters the mainstream thanks to the documentary, everyone with a voice who has had bad experiences with Boogie (and that's many people by now) will pitch in about how its wrong. All he's doing is painting a target on his enormous, woman-untouched back.
And if he thinks he can embrace his true self and be a roach living off of bad PR like DSP, he's wrong because even DSP puts in daily effort and does something instead of pretending to be an insufferable been-there done-that sage on twitter and acting like he deserves an audience because of it.
Lugubrious
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You could be on to something, imagine asking yourself on a fake account to be on PKA, basically play the pity card and no one caring (21hrs in, 20 likes and one comment)
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The therapist would be fine as long Boogie consents to sharing his information. I know its optimistic. Boogie loves blabbering about his "rapist" mother so much that it would be hypocritical that suddenly he cares about his privacy. I personally believe this therapist does not exist. He probably realized he cannot suicide bait therapists and he can risk being institutionalized in doing so.
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The only thing that would be truly interesting would be a conversation between boogie and a farmer.
Yes yes, I know it won't happen due to farmers being smarter than that but seeing a match up between boogie and someone knowing all the lore having all the receipts.
Watching him try to weasel out of that would be a marvelous addition to the documentary.
But hey, a girl can dream
Yes yes, I know it won't happen due to farmers being smarter than that but seeing a match up between boogie and someone knowing all the lore having all the receipts.
Watching him try to weasel out of that would be a marvelous addition to the documentary.
But hey, a girl can dream
bravosouth
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I remembered you can check log-ins here on the Farms, Mr. Clum here didn't even make it 24 hours. I don't know what to think about this guy but I get the distinct feeling that he's telling everyone a little bit of what they want to hear to curry favor with them, like these little nuggets about Steven eating fast food nearly every day or the excessive Dew consumption. I'm still not convinced that this isn't some elaborate attempt at reviving Steven's career (or that it isn't a motivation), I would love nothing more than to be proven dead wrong though.
I don't imagine we'll ever hear from him again, anyways.
While I agree this would be interesting I see it a bit like the joke about participating in the Special Olympics... Even if you win by an absolute landslide A) you're still retarded and B) you just publicly beat the shit out of a retard.
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Chainsaw Juggler
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Frank Hassle vs. Boogie Killstream was essentially that. Frank had all of the old SamandTolki talking points ready for the podcast. It went so poorly for Boogie that Frank's channel was mass flagged and taken down within a few hours of it airing, Boogie blocked Frank the same evening on twitter and Boogie's "hate" subreddit disappeared from the face of the earth under mysterious circumstances a few days later.The only thing that would be truly interesting would be a conversation between boogie and a farmer.
Yes yes, I know it won't happen due to farmers being smarter than that but seeing a match up between boogie and someone knowing all the lore having all the receipts.
Watching him try to weasel out of that would be a marvelous addition to the documentary.
But hey, a girl can dream
And it was very satisfying to watch. Boogie just keeps switching masks to try and disrupt Frank and they all fail.
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Oh, that's what happened. That's hilarious on so many levels.
I wonder if boogie would have the balls to do it again but going up against someone who has absolutely nothing to lose.
No channel, no subreddit just a very tired farmer asking boogie why he chose to lie about fucking everything?
Again, I know the answer to the question but if Cloom wanted to involve boogies HaTeRs in the documentary (I'm using that term so fucking loosely right now) that's what he should try to set up.
Right now it's all a big nothing burger.
BUT! Just went to check his Twitter before hitting that reply button and lolol
The fat one is at it again. Anyone wanna take a guess wtf spurred this drama Llama outburst on? [A]
His followers isn't buying it:
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oh great, another, "I'm sorry I . . . <insert extremely vague behavior that fails to pinpoint exactly what I should be taking accountability for>" apology. I actually went to post some of these, but you already beat me to it. I did catch one of his more recent replies:
he's still being vague as shit, and of course it's not an official boogie apology until he makes it about himself. he doesn't care about mending whatever gripes he thinks his audience has with him, he only cares about everyone feeling bad for him, because poor ol' boogie is just so sorry that he hurt everyone by ruining his life and his body.
He does this so much that it makes me wanna sing “Theeeeeee wheels on the bus go round and round…round and round…round and round.”
ThatDarnIrishMan
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That's weird, I was having a conversation with a Boogie fan recently. I was in Walmart and saw a guy wearing a Boogie2988 gun meme shirt and my psychic powers told me he was sad even though he was smiling. So I asked him how he was, he said he was fine, but I asked him how he really was.
He then broke down and cried in my arms. We're now best friends and going on holiday next week to Jamaica.
I didn't want to mention it before this exact moment because, you know, reasons and stuff probably.
Nothing I like more than a vague apology from Boogie. It's definitely a totally new thing and something he has never done before and will never do again.
Boogie: "Guys. I'm SO sorry. Like, totes sorry."
Normal humans: "About what?"
Boogie: "Uh... you know. Stuff. And like, things. You know. All that stuff."
Normal humans: "No... like, what are you actually sorry for?"
Boogie: "I can't believe you're bullying me like this when I'm pouring my heart and soul out for you all to see!!!! Are you a Q-Anon MAGA supporter? I marched with BLM, I'll have you know! I have a trans friend!"
I'm also really glad Boogie definitely didn't indulge in any weird parasocial relationship with his followers like he also accuses his trolls of having.
I also usually end my """"""very serious"""""" apologies by saying "lol oops"
YaBoi
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Boogie did a few Reddit AMAs (against the advice of his fans btw) on his subreddit a few years ago. He got roasted to high hell and I'll admit that I jumped in there and lobbed some curve balls at him. Most of us ended up blocked but he ended up retconning his rape stories for the billionth time and no longer talks about it. As you'd expect, he had excuses for everything and argued even in the face of damning evidence. When it became too much, he'd ban that person.
He's terrified of Reddit because you can link people directly to his contradictions. This is why he scarcely uses the platform anymore and avoids podcasts. He's rarely jumped onto anyone's livestream or podcasts since Frank destroyed him on the Killstream. If Boogie can't control the questions or have his fans dogpile the haters, he sticks to his echo chambers where he can lie and no one can do anything to prove him wrong.
"Hey guys I'm so sorry for being an asshole! I'm so sorry that I hurt you!"
Urgh fuck off Boogie. You just finished explaining what an asshole you were during the "documentary" you released the other week. You then went on to blame the haters for everything bad that happened to you ("I lost my sponsors because of the haters"). Idk dude, maybe being an asshole lost you your sponsors? Crazy suggestion, I know.
"No excuses"? The fuck you talking about? I maxed out Kiwifarm's word count writing a post about how you're unaccountable for your actions. The TLDR of the post was that all the main things you have publicly taken "responsibility" for also had a bunch of excuses individually attached them.
Black girlfriend cancer comments? Oh it was joke! We used to joke about double cancer!!!
A lot of money for a black person? Oh that was me reading chat. Oh it was just a joke. Oh I was making a political statement.
Etc etc etc.
And of course he has to involve the fans in his apology because HE hurt THEM by doing X (not parasocial at all btw). He's just such a nice guy that he's apologizing to you, the fans! This is the softener so his fans can respond with "No it's okay Boogie. We forgive you! / You have nothing to be sorry for Boogie!" Essentially free asspats for being a big boy and taking responsibility for his actions but not really
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More importantly than what he's apologizing for (in my mind) is what spurred on this sudden "I was crazy/an asshole (again) and was too crazy to know it (again), sorry guys!" in the first place.
Maybe suddenly quitting his meds has him feeling low, but I can't help but wonder if Mr. Clum's little tour of our facilities caused something behind the scenes. Perhaps he DID read some of Yaboi's megaposts and went to Boogie with some things he wanted clarified and now Boogie's getting ahead of it all by trying to retcon his behavior from the last few months with an excuse.
"Yeah I lied in the doc, but guys, I apologized for being crazy that month, but now I see how crazy I was and I'm working with my therapist and feeling better than ever!"
I have nothing to back that up, it's just that the timing kind of works and there was no drama that we know of (yet) that accounts for this apology.
Maybe suddenly quitting his meds has him feeling low, but I can't help but wonder if Mr. Clum's little tour of our facilities caused something behind the scenes. Perhaps he DID read some of Yaboi's megaposts and went to Boogie with some things he wanted clarified and now Boogie's getting ahead of it all by trying to retcon his behavior from the last few months with an excuse.
"Yeah I lied in the doc, but guys, I apologized for being crazy that month, but now I see how crazy I was and I'm working with my therapist and feeling better than ever!"
I have nothing to back that up, it's just that the timing kind of works and there was no drama that we know of (yet) that accounts for this apology.