Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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They did a study, mentioned elsewhere on the farms, where they studied the bacterial flora in troon manginas.

Many of them indeed had fecal bacteria.

Though in all fairness, anal sex can also be the cause.

Now could we please stop talking about how women wipe their ass?!

But they're not women.

They're porn obsessed coomers who go ass to vagina and wonder why they've got shit infested caverns because no one told them to clean first. Nothing to do with anal, although having an open hole doesn't help.

Also..... I bet they're not washing their hands thoroughly before dilation. As we all know they have those horrible spade like nails that just trap sharticles. Case in point, Dani Marina - a known munchie who fiddled with a central line with shit fingers and got a faecal based bacterial infection in the veins/arteries near her heart...
 
Like said above, all natural orifices self-clean. Ears have earwax, noses of course have nasal mucus. Eyes have tears. The colon produces mucus. The stinkditch however is not an entrance to the body, it is a dead end. Can it really be said to be an orifice? much like a navel, it does not lead into the body, and also like a navel, it does not self-clean. A major difference between the stinkditch and the belly button is that the stinkditch is adjacent to the rectum and the urethra. As a consequence, it is prime real estate for fecal bacteria. That is one of the reasons why I will never believe a tranny that says their rot pocket is scentless.
 
I got an even better one for ya.

Imagine your husband troons out.

Would you…

A: Promise to take it one day at a time, while secretly moving assets and preparing to get the f out.

B: Scream “YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN YOU DEGENERATE FREAK AND YOU SURE AS HELL ARENT MUCH OF A MAN!!” And storm out.

C: Lie awake at night, consumed by fear whether you are tolerant and understanding enough of his transsexual whims, and spend your days tearing up, imagine that he will leave you afterall

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Yup, of course it’s C for this poor woman. Where the F do they find these women?!?

Holy shit. No sense of self at all. It's all about what the TiM wants and then she just goes along with it, whatever it is. "Fine by me, totally respect that, I support that, she chooses to, she feels, she wants, what if she does this or that, her comfort is what matters most for me, her happiness matters most...blah blah blah".
The TiM decides, this wishy-washy pathetic thing just goes along with whatever the TiM wants. Even the nonbinary "identity" is a cop-out, choosing something that's in between and letting others decide rather than standing up for what she actually is.
 
Like said above, all natural orifices self-clean. Ears have earwax, noses of course have nasal mucus. Eyes have tears. The colon produces mucus. The stinkditch however is not an entrance to the body, it is a dead end. Can it really be said to be an orifice? much like a navel, it does not lead into the body, and also like a navel, it does not self-clean. A major difference between the stinkditch and the belly button is that the stinkditch is adjacent to the rectum and the urethra. As a consequence, it is prime real estate for fecal bacteria. That is one of the reasons why I will never believe a tranny that says their rot pocket is scentless.
When I start telling people who are vehemently pro-trans this info, almost all of them stop in their tracks and get grossed out. That’s the normal reaction. The neovagina is disgusting as hell. Most normies, including the trannies who want this surgery, don’t know a damn thing about it. Hell, many of them didn’t even know what a neovagina was until I told them. It just shows you how truly ignorant so many people are about this issue but continue to support it.

It’s not an orifice, it’s an open, gaping wound people are paying surgeons thousands of dollars to create for them. They smell absolutely fucking vile. How do I know this? I work with mentally ill individuals who have gone through this surgery. They weren’t expecting the level of care it was going to take to maintain it. However even when they do, it’s still disgusting. You can smell it on their clothes, their bedsheets, when they’re wearing skirts and dresses the smell creeps out from their crotch and stinks up the area around them.

Any sexist Troon that tells you natal vaginas smell weird too can fuck off with that bullshit. A real vagina only smells gross if it’s infected, in which a woman can go in for treatment to get it taken care of. Neovaginas always smell because of the bowel mucus. That’s before the chronic infections, trenchrot, bleeding, and other such common nasties.

It also must be stated that something most trannies don’t know is that women commonly get yeast infections and UTI’s due to the close proximity of the vagina, urethra, and anus. Even with good hygiene it can still be a problem. However, because the vagina is an actual orifice that cleans itself, along with a vigorous treatment of antibiotics, these issues can usually be abated quickly before its PH levels go back to normal. But a neovagina going through any of this? Yeah. That’s gonna be a whole other beast to tackle considering it’s a dead-end cavern with nothing naturally lubricating it.
 
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Any sexist Troon that tells you natal vaginas smell weird too can fuck off with that bullshit. A real vagina only smells gross if it’s infected, in which a woman can go in for treatment to get it taken care of. Neovaginas always smell because of the bowel mucus. That’s before the chronic infections, trenchrot, bleeding, and other such common nasties.

As a natural vagina owner, the smell can tell you what's going on. Normal discharge has no smell, right before your period it can smell coppery because blood. Fishy fanny is infection, and rotstench.... That's a fake....
 
these issues can usually be abated quickly before its PH levels go back to normal. But a neovagina going through any of this? Yeah. That’s gonna be a whole other beast to tackle considering it’s a dead-end cavern with nothing naturally lubricating it.
Remember that many of these disgusting men are inserting stuff like probiotic yogurt into their horror holes for "PH levels". I wouldn't be surprised if that also is the cause of this stench. These idiots have no idea what even is between their legs let alone how to take care of it - it's not a vagina, it's a deep wound.
 
Holy shit. No sense of self at all. It's all about what the TiM wants and then she just goes along with it, whatever it is. "Fine by me, totally respect that, I support that, she chooses to, she feels, she wants, what if she does this or that, her comfort is what matters most for me, her happiness matters most...blah blah blah".
The TiM decides, this wishy-washy pathetic thing just goes along with whatever the TiM wants. Even the nonbinary "identity" is a cop-out, choosing something that's in between and letting others decide rather than standing up for what she actually is.
This is how I lost my previous trans “friend”. For years I thought she was actually trans and called her by their desired pronouns, then BOOM after deciding to climb out of her room and attempt socialization she got herself a boyfriend and started calling herself “non-binary”. Just like that. Seven years of saying she was a male, asking me to address her by he/him pronouns despite the incredibly feminine voice and absolutely no attempt to pass as male at all, saying she was going through severe dysphoria as being perceived as a woman…she completely drops it all after getting a boyfriend. Basically she was just a lonely straight girl this whole time.

I also want to say that looking back after breaking my friendship off with her (for other reasons aside from this bullshit), I realized she exhibited the typical traits of someone who considers themselves trans/NB. Chronically online. Unemployed. Manic depressive. Identifying as ace despite being a porn addict. Pregnancy fetish despite identifying as a man. Dressing in cringe alt fashion. Very autistic. A huge narcissistic who only gave a shit about herself. Tumblr addict. Fixated on sex and fetishes. Having interests in obscure things. Probably a fujo. Check mark after check mark after check mark. It’s when she started having a normal social life did she move away from the trans identity.
Remember that many of these disgusting men are inserting stuff like probiotic yogurt into their horror holes for "PH levels". I wouldn't be surprised if that also is the cause of this stench. These idiots have no idea what even is between their legs let alone how to take care of it - it's not a vagina, it's a deep wound.
the funny thing is, a natal woman can just eat yogurt if she wants to change her vagina’s PH balance, and these sick shits are having to shove it inside them because the hole between their legs isn’t a proper orifice. Fucking gross. And these people try to perpetuate that it’s “just like an actual vagina”!
 
That Polish bird! Oh my fucking sides!

'Yeah my penis turned out really bad but I still love it and I'll be getting another penis soon anyway'

By all the gods these people are fucking mental, 20 years ago, straight in a loony bin.
They think they can just slap genitals on and off like a nicotine patch.

It is not a fucking penis, it is not a dick or a cock it is a failed medical experiment that locks you in to a life of misery, pain and procedures.
I used to feel sorry for these idiots but now I find people like her hilarious. She should get her next 'penis' stuck on her forehead, it'll probably take better.
 
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3.5mo post-op w/ Dr. Hyer. Feeling conflicted lately on aesthetics, as well as some minor complications. More in comments
So, as the title says, at ~3.5mo post-op and have been feeling let down in terms of results and some minor complications. I'm trying to stay optimistic as I know I still have some time until things are fully settled, and want to see how things are around the 6mo mark.

Firstly, one of the biggest issues has been remaining erectile tissue in my left labia, as pictured near the end. This has added a LOT of dysphoria around sexual things as whenever I get aroused, I essentially "get hard" in that area. It feels gross and it makes me immensely insecure about engaging in sexual encounters despite feeling the relief of no longer having a penis. The current plan is to discuss revision options about this around the 5-6mo mark.

Secondly, as far as aesthetics, I'm feeling very conflicted as I guess I expected things to look a lot different around this time. My clitoris was unfortunately covered up during the initial healing process by the skin fusing over it. I can still interact with it, but I'm not particularly happy with that. May also fix this during a revision. Additionally, whenever I open my legs, my labia feel too far apart and it makes it look very strange to me when viewing it straight on. When I'm standing or sitting, it looks fine and doesn't bother me. Also, things still feel very rigid so far. I'm sure that's a lot of long term swelling, but it sucks not being able to like, play around with myself when I want to masturbate. Things just feel stiff and not super enjoyable to interact with. Lastly, it feels like my vagina is much darker than the skin around it and that also bothers me, but I don't think there's much to be done about that sadly.

Overall, I'm grateful that I no longer have my prior equipment, but it seems I've run into a new layer of dysphoria I didnt think existed. And that's mainly feeling like my vagina is so different than other natal/trans vaginas... it's made this healing process very difficult to enjoy or feel good about so far. Not to mention the other stress that life has been putting me through.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Any words of support/reassurance/advice is more than welcome <3
Looks like the euphoria wore off for him.
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Day 0, 7, 34, 98.
Lol it's not ended up as bad as I thought it would.
I think his "clitoris" (:story:) ie. the mangled and whittled down remains of his bell end, actually rotted and dropped off at some point and he's either lying or in denial about it just having "skin grown over it."
It's a fucking mess but it could have been a lot worse, as far as amholes go, it just looks like a sweaty deflated ballsack.
Which it is, so gg, I guess. :story:
 
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All this, and for what?

The world’s largest dataset on patients who have undergone sex-reassignment procedures reveals that these procedures do not bring mental health benefits. But that’s not what the authors originally claimed. Or what the media touted.

In October 2019, the American Journal of Psychiatry published a paper titled, “Reduction in Mental Health Treatment Utilization Among Transgender Individuals After Gender-Affirming Surgeries: A Total Population Study.” As the title suggests, the paper claimed that after having had sex-reassignment surgeries, a patient was less likely to need mental health treatment.

Well, over the weekend, the editors of the journal and the authors of the paper issued a correction. In the words of the authors, “the results demonstrated no advantage of surgery in relation to subsequent mood or anxiety disorder-related health care.”

But it’s actually worse than that. The original results already demonstrated no benefits to hormonal transition. That part didn’t need a correction.

So, the bottom line: The largest dataset on sex-reassignment procedures—both hormonal and surgical—reveals that such procedures do not bring the promised mental health benefits.

In fact, in their correction to the original study, the authors point out that on one score—treatment for anxiety disorders—patients who had sex-reassignment surgeries did worse than those who did not:

individuals diagnosed with gender incongruence who had received gender-affirming surgery were more likely to be treated for anxiety disorders compared with individuals diagnosed with gender incongruence who had not received gender-affirming surgery.
You would think patients suffering from gender dysphoria would want to know that.


What led to the correction? A deluge of criticisms and letters to the editor.

One of the first scholars to raise questions about the original study was Mark Regnerus, a professor of sociology at the University of Texas at Austin.

Writing at Public Discourse (the Journal of the Witherspoon Institute, which I edit), Regnerus praised the study for having such a robust dataset. But he pointed out oddities in the way the authors presented the results to the public, and which results the media touted.

Here is the article quoted above, and here is the academic criticism itself.

Some highlights:

  • The length of time since starting HRT had no effect on the likelihood of seeking mental health treatment ("treatment of mood or anxiety disorder, or hospitalization after a suicide attempt") in 2015. People who'd started HRT two months ago would be just as likely as those who'd started two years ago. So it doesn't seem to pay off over time.
  • The authors claimed they found that for every year post-surgery, patients experienced a statistically significant linear 8% reduction in the odds of being treated for a mood or anxiety disorder in 2015. But this was apparently calculated from the difference between patients in their first nine years after surgery and patients who'd had surgery at least ten years ago. For each "years since surgery" cohort up to nine years, the rate of seeking mental health treatment in 2015 was about 35%. For the ten-plus-years-ago cohort, it drops to 21%.
  • Yet there were over 30 times as many "under two years" patients represented as "over ten years" - 574 vs. a mere 19. Four out of the 19 sought mental health treatment in 2015. If only three more of these did, there would appear to be no statistically significant effect! And if three fewer did, they would've found a significant 12% decrease each year! A "significant" population-level conclusion has been drawn hinging upon the outcomes of as few as three people! What should really catch our attention is the similar treatment-seeking rates among all the other cohorts. (Longitudinal conclusions from cross-sectional data should be taken with a grain of salt anyway. It's possible that this less-than-a-decade cohort is more mentally ill than the old-timers, now that the social contagion is attracting vulnerable people who would've never thought to transition otherwise.)
  • This critic also calculated the "number needed to treat," a measure of clinical impact comparing the odds ratio of an event (in this case, seeking mental health treatment) in those with versus without an intervention (in this case, "perioperative" diagnosed dysphoric people vs. patients at least two years after SRS). For reference, a NNT under 10 is normally considered good evidence that procedure is worth it. Here, it's a whopping 49: the effect on the odds ratio is so small that we'd need at least 49 surgeries to be performed in order to see one trans person not seek mental health treatment in a given year.
  • One major limitation he points out: this is just from a full national registry of the living. We can't know how many SRS patients have been lost to suicide.

If we want to know whether SRS improves anything, this is as good as it gets.

Patient satisfaction surveys are important data, but in this case, they're like asking non-recovering people with eating disorders whether they regret losing weight and want to gain weight back - absolutely not! They would hate to weigh more when they still want to weigh less; irrational levels of suffering feel justified in the name of weighing less. It takes a lot to get to the point of realizing the suffering isn't worth it and never was. It's even harder for trans people to admit it after all their sunken costs. And we with EDs knew we'd be celebrated if we chose to recover and could become healthier and happier like so many others. We knew on some level that this wasn't the way to live, and we'd just need a bigger push to choose to leap to the other side. But it's transition that's celebrated the way ED recovery is, not detransition, and there's no narrative of a healthy, happy post-detransition life. Of course they're going to claim they did what's best for them. That's the only way to cope!

Yet even when someone with an ED sincerely claims she prefers her current weight over her old weight, we can see she's become a shell of her old self, and she knows it. Her life has become more complicated, more socially and emotionally difficult, and more prone to end in suicide. Similarly, when mentally ill people seek these surgeries, they're objectively no more likely to live mentally healthy lives, according to the data - just mentally ill lives with additional complex needs.

We might tolerate mental health outcomes like this for a money-grubbing cosmetic procedure. If an adult is willing to pay to be an unhappy 6.5/10 rather than an unhappy 6/10, whatever. But for highly invasive, potentially function-destroying surgeries that lead to more complicated and uncertain physical needs, trying to imitate the impossible, all done in the name of improving mental health? There should be no more question about whether this is ethical.

The two factpills commonly shared to make this point are
  1. The Dhejne et al study, a previous look at the full Swedish registry of the transgender population, finding that post-SRS individuals commit suicide at a far higher rate than the general population. This says nothing about whether transition works and was never meant to. Maybe they would've committed suicide even more had they not had access. TRAs and Cecilia Dhejne herself have raised this point. When you put it in more familiar, less ideological terms - Veterans who get treatment for PTSD commit suicide at a higher rate than the general population, so I guess they don't need treatment after all - it's easy to grasp why this isn't a fair comparison.
  2. "41%" - No, 41% of the transgender population does not die of suicide. Think for a second and that's a ridiculous figure. A survey from the Williams Institute found that 41% of transgender respondents had attempted suicide. Dead people can't take surveys. The survey found that this was similar for those who had undergone surgeries and those who hadn't (two separate groups, not the same people before vs. after), but it didn't ask whether these attempts were before or after transitioning. Not going to bother to look into it, but I've heard that this figure hasn't replicated anyway, that more methodologically sound studies have found a lower suicide attempt rate similar to the LGB.

This isn't even the only study that directly finds no mental health improvement (Regenerus references a few more), but as of now it seems to be the most thorough.

Maybe the real number worth spreading is 48. For every surgery in this mentally ill population that successfully appeased the mental illness, 48 were done for nothing. And here we see them.
 
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Lol it's not ended up as bad as I thought it would.
I think his "clitoris" (:story:) ie. the mangled and whittled down remains of his bell end, actually rotted and dropped off at some point and he's either lying or in denial about it just having "skin grown over it."
It's a fucking mess but it could have been a lot worse, as far as amholes go, it just looks like a sweaty deflated ballsack.
Which it is, so gg, I guess. :story:
I agree. My first thought was that he’s a bit ungrateful. I can’t believe that thing held together as well as it did. It’s sad, ugly, and brown, but it looks healed at least.
Maybe those weird pretzel braids hold a special secret.
 
I agree. My first thought was that he’s a bit ungrateful. I can’t believe that thing held together as well as it did. It’s sad, ugly, and brown, but it looks healed at least.
Maybe those weird pretzel braids hold a special secret.
I think the pastry braids were an extremely optimistic surgeon trying to make something that would look more like a real womans labia, but all he had to work with was this dudes wrinkly ball sack :story: it was a valiant effort, but one doomed to failure, and the complicated stitching and thus extra strain it put on the skin while it was healing likely effected this troons blood flow and contributed to his "clitoris" turning black and dropping off.
That said it's healed better than a lot, it looks fucking horrifying but it's a mutilated set o'balls, its not gonna win any beauty contests anyway.
 
I think the pastry braids were an extremely optimistic surgeon trying to make something that would look more like a real womans labia, but all he had to work with was this dudes wrinkly ball sack :story: it was a valiant effort, but one doomed to failure, and the complicated stitching and thus extra strain it put on the skin while it was healing likely effected this troons blood flow and contributed to his "clitoris" turning black and dropping off.
That said it's healed better than a lot, it looks fucking horrifying but it's a mutilated set o'balls, its not gonna win any beauty contests anyway.
Look it's ol' Pastry Balls! He is on his way to visit granny Zippertits.
 
Look it's ol' Pastry Balls! He is on his way to visit granny Zippertits.
Oh there's a fuckin bright future ahead for the victims of the transgender crazy alright.
I hate to think what these sorry faggots are gonna look like in 30-40 years time, if any live that long (more Rainbows in that comment than flags on fag month).
 
There really isn't even a hint of anything sexual when looking at neovag/neodick pics, my brain defaults to "We're watching gore" mode of looking at and thinking about it.

It's interesting, like there is some innate understanding that all this is is mangled flesh, scars and actual gore a lot of the time.

Neodicks look like (at best) dildos that would be recalled because clearly the mold got fucked up, at worst it looks like... idfk and neovages are just horrifying in general, it's all in the wrong area, the nao lips never look right, the approximation of a clitoris doesn't exist most times, hell, there's fucking hair inside.

It really makes me wonder what morticians whisper to each other when one of these head cases lands on their table.

EDIT: Sorry if I said something that was already discussed, I'm pages behind looking at this shit and the more I look at it all, the more stories I read, the less I get it in every way imagineable.
 
u/46289374839 is in a living nightmare, even a quick glance at her comment history shows she’s d00leys-tier insane.
  • lives in Poland
  • has abdominal phallo somewhere just underneath her bellybutton, above pubic bone
  • Original surgeon ghosts her
  • New surgeon chuckles in her face about moving it down
  • Wants to flay her arm next to fix it, repurpose current rotdog skin
  • Another one obsessed with standing to pee, nowhere close to that impossible goal
  • d00leys-style copeposting and leading other girls into making the same ruinous life choices
  • major Pooner vibes
Comments but no images of the skin tag. Anyone who can read Polish will experience more manmade horrors beyond their comprehension by browsing her account.
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my floppy belly skin tube is completely functional and cis-passing, transphobe!! what the heck!
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It’s worth looking at the diagram on this one again . A while back we talked about the difference between the male and female bladder. Female drains directly downwards with a short urethra. Male goes down amd forwards and so has (was it 7inches?) longer for the urethra to go. The male bladder is therefor stronger in terms of the musculature that empties it. Now look at that picture again - she’s wanting them to create a urethra on those lines. She’s asking for her bladder to drain UPWARDS . It wouldn’t happen. She has gone through that surgery and now she will have to go through removing it, and RFF to even have it positioned right. But it just shows the absolute lack of reality - you can’t have a female bladder and expect it to push urine out UP a tune six or seven times as long as it’s meant to do. What’s going to kill these girls in twenty years time is uronary retention and infections
 
There really isn't even a hint of anything sexual when looking at neovag/neodick pics, my brain defaults to "We're watching gore" mode of looking at and thinking about it.

Thought if your post when I found this chick earlier:

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Such a bizarre sight.

The ample, very feminine hips and body.
The face of a woman with what I like to call “trauma eyes” and “trauma smile”.

And then the chest. The utterly inhuman chest that looks like something out of a horror game or a grey alien.

If this picture was in b/w, I’d expect a text underneath: “Dachau 1945. Only when the flames of war had died down, did the full extent of medical experimentation in KZ camps start to become widely known.”
 
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