Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[NotDiscarded]

So ppl give advice how to off them self. But don’t take their own advice this forum is either weeding out depressed troons or the site of wanna be sad faggots.While this is horrible that people are telling kids or just another living soul how to take their own life but like what should even be done with this site. It sits in a status of if laws are made to take it down how would it affect the rest of the internet. how would it effect site even? Just wow interesting read I wonder what is the future

 

[RaS]

His video has also driven thousands of new people to SS. Some are lurking and many have joined up as members. The whole community has shifted in the past month or so and is now made up entirely of new users and FC (who's surpassed the 19,000 post mark now).

Some of those new users are expressing thanks to Tantacrul for helping them find the site.
Eejit now has blood on his hands. Much, much blood. Blood of likely minors too, considering his usual audience demographics.

Correct. As someone who has been reading through the registration queue for the past few months, I can confirm that. There are so many new members who decided to join this forum after they saw that video and it seems there are enough people who see through his bullshit - so many people in fact that we had to turn off registrations for a while. And a large junk of the new members told us they saw the video first and when they did their own research, they realized the video was deceptive and misleading on purpose. But that's the reason why Tantacrul didn't want people to find the forum because it's a lot harder to convince others when people can do their own research and make up their own mind.

So essentially, Tantacrul did two things.
1. He gave us thousands of new active members, people who appreciate this forum for providing a space to talk about their struggles.
2. And he gave us a Wikipedia article, making us mainstream, which will lead to more new members in the future.

I don't like either of that but it's not exactly a win for those who want to see this forum gone. And that's important for me. They increased the visibility of this forum and that's it. That's all they achieved. Here is a graph, showing the timeline between December and February and you will see that the registrations blew up in January, when he released that video, and when we re-opened the registrations a few weeks later, we had another spike. It doesn't matter how you spin it, that video was a complete failure. Tantacrul knows what he has done, he is just to arrogant to admit that. But I think it's eating him up and that's why he made accounts in this forum, trying to desperately justify his actions.

As I said on the forum, before Tantacrul released his video, people had to do very specific research to find the forum and that was a good thing. It's a lot easier to find us now, people just need to go to Wikipedia and click the link. The only people that ever advertised this forum are the people who want to take it down, so no...

the problem with this shit is that the guys from sanctioned suicide forum lure fucking young people to their goddamn forum

...the only people that lure "young people" to our goddamn forum are people like Tantacrul who exposed his audience consisting of minors to this forum and when Youtube gave his video an age-restriction, which was completely justified - he actively fought against that, which you can read here.

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Why? So more "young people" could see his video. This is so messed up. If you really think our forum is such a bad place, then why are you working so hard to give us exposure to your young audience, which will lead to more new members? You're shooting yourself in the foot, why is that so difficult for you understand?

I already addressed this else where but this forum is immune to bad publicity. And the people who oppose this forum are unable to grasp that, instead they think releasing more news article and more viral videos will eventually make this forum disappear for magic reasons. That's not how it works. Every single time a news outlet would talk about us, it only increased our member count. And here is one fundamental issue, the topics discussed in this forum are deeply neglected in our society and there is strong need for a place like our forum. You might not like it but every time you talk about a place that exists out there, that allows people to talk about deeply personal struggles without censorship and without the moralising undertone, and a platform that recognises individual autonomy and the right to decide what happens with your own life, you will increase the member count of this forum, period. There is no way around that. If you turn this forum into a "forbidden fruit", something you're not allowed to talk about, something you should never look up under any circumstances, you simply make this forum look more appealing to people who want to participate in a community that respects and understands their struggle. It's as simple as that but these people don't understand it.

I could literally beg them to stop talking about the forum for 10 seconds and they wouldn't do it. Incredible. That's how thick they are.

 

[thegooddoctor]

You could say the same for bars that only the same handful of alcoholics go to, pissing their lives away one beer at a time. Don't think those alcoholics would find a healthier outlet if you just closed the bars.

I consider the fact that these places exist, more of a sad indication that even with something as interconnected as the internet, having a space where you can actually speak about what ails you to deal with your issues in an emotionally healthy manner with other people is hard to find (particularly, it seems, for men).

It feels like in the past few decades, we have sacrificed communal support and the default camaraderie that prevented a lot of people from spiraling on the altar of more "effective" communication (and frankly, a western world that very much values individual "achievement" rather than happiness) - the monkey brain tries to get what people used to receive from church groups, village communes, hobby clubs, large families, support groups etc. through the internet but is incapable of grasping that this is not an effective substitute for real human contact - but the illusion is tangible enough to keep one sufficiently hooked not to try a less convenient avenue.

Rather than tackling these core issues however, bereaved family members seem to think that the way to go is to neuter interpersonal communication further, so that in their ideal version of the internet, there are now no unfiltered spaces whatsoever, not even these 2nd rate ones - contributing to a greater isolation still for the young people they seek to "protect".

Sorry for late posting but yes maybe finding safe spaces for people to feel the way as you do can make you feel less lonely can be emotionally gratifying to some extent, but even so I don't think it'll benefit them much in the long run. I feel maybe this is a statement on the modern internet and the lack of true 'safe spaces' that actually go out of their way to rectify peoples interpersonal problems with safe avenues for mental health correction rather they give the illusion of doing that providing people with a hurtbox feeding into each others miseries making them worse off for it.

I don't really see a way out for these people, because the only other alternative then would simply to suck it up and blame people for being pussies who should cheer up but its easier said than done. I know everyone suffers through hard circumstances out of there control and everyone has differing mental constitutions in how they process grief but realistically what other choice do they have? Is this meant to be a dark moral statement about the general antipathy most of the public have towards strong personal connection.

 

[White532]

@jque_cm Please respond. Why did you remove the age restriction?

 

[Kees H]

Subliminal messages in heavy metal albums

Let's ban all heavy metal as well then, it's so evil. Goddamn, the logic of some people, I am not sure if it's hilarious or just pure stupidity.

Ban this spergy pro suicide forum and another one will show up, or a bunch of these faggots will just go back to Wizardchan. Good luck censoring the internet.

 

[dick brain]

Correct. As someone who has been reading through the registration queue for the past few months, I can confirm that. There are so many new members who decided to join this forum after they saw that video and it seems there are enough people who see through his bullshit - so many people in fact that we had to turn off registrations for a while. And a large junk of the new members told us they saw the video first and when they did their own research, they realized the video was deceptive and misleading on purpose. But that's the reason why Tantacrul didn't want people to find the forum because it's a lot harder to convince others when people can do their own research and make up their own mind.

So essentially, Tantacrul did two things.
1. He gave us thousands of new active members, people who appreciate this forum for providing a space to talk about their struggles.
2. And he gave us a Wikipedia article, making us mainstream, which will lead to more new members in the future.

I don't like either of that but it's not exactly a win for those who want to see this forum gone. And that's important for me. They increased the visibility of this forum and that's it. That's all they achieved. Here is a graph, showing the timeline between December and February and you will see that the registrations blew up in January, when he released that video, and when we re-opened the registrations a few weeks later, we had another spike. It doesn't matter how you spin it, that video was a complete failure. Tantacrul knows what he has done, he is just to arrogant to admit that. But I think it's eating him up and that's why he made accounts in this forum, trying to desperately justify his actions.

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As I said on the forum, before Tantacrul released his video, people had to do very specific research to find the forum and that was a good thing. It's a lot easier to find us now, people just need to go to Wikipedia and click the link. The only people that ever advertised this forum are the people who want to take it down, so no...



...the only people that lure "young people" to our goddamn forum are people like Tantacrul who exposed his audience consisting of minors to this forum and when Youtube gave his video an age-restriction, which was completely justified - he actively fought against that, which you can read here.

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(link)

Why? So more "young people" could see his video. This is so messed up. If you really think our forum is such a bad place, then why are you working so hard to give us exposure to your young audience, which will lead to more new members? You're shooting yourself in the foot, why is that so difficult for you understand?

I already addressed this else where but this forum is immune to bad publicity. And the people who oppose this forum are unable to grasp that, instead they think releasing more news article and more viral videos will eventually make this forum disappear for magic reasons. That's not how it works. Every single time a news outlet would talk about us, it only increased our member count. And here is one fundamental issue, the topics discussed in this forum are deeply neglected in our society and there is strong need for a place like our forum. You might not like it but every time you talk about a place that exists out there, that allows people to talk about deeply personal struggles without censorship and without the moralising undertone, and a platform that recognises individual autonomy and the right to decide what happens with your own life, you will increase the member count of this forum, period. There is no way around that. If you turn this forum into a "forbidden fruit", something you're not allowed to talk about, something you should never look up under any circumstances, you simply make this forum look more appealing to people who want to participate in a community that respects and understands their struggle. It's as simple as that but these people don't understand it.

I could literally beg them to stop talking about the forum for 10 seconds and they wouldn't do it. Incredible. That's how thick they are.

The worst part is, he's engaged here enough that it's impossible for him to not realize this by now. So at this point in time, he knows he's more complicit than anyone in assisting in the suicide of alleged minors, barring arguably the owner/admins, and he's making the choice to do nothing to correct that -- not even so much as barring viewership from minors, who cannot possibly do anything to negatively impact the site's legality or visibility and can only fall victim to the very phenomenon he's crusading against.

By his own logic/rhetoric, Martin would rather let children die than admit that he's wrong.

This is the caliber of person shaping popular perception today.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

Hey @CB_ instead of spending time talking to randos on a gossip website, how about you fucking talk to your remaining children and give them good memories so they won't kill themselves too?

 

[Cnut]

Why is FuneralCry still alive? The 500 post award on SS should be mandatory euthanasia.

 

[CB_]

Hey @CB_ instead of spending time talking to randos on a gossip website, how about you fucking talk to your remaining children and give them good memories so they won't kill themselves too?

Blah blah blah. I’m only talking to one person in here. All the ignorant stuff from the punk kids just gets dusted off my shoulder. Could care less. Just reminds me where our society is today. My comments are to the one grown ass man that runs a website and talks to children online handing out suicide knowledge like it’s candy. Who posts people’s deaths as success stories.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

Blah blah blah. I’m only talking to one person in here. All the ignorant stuff from the punk kids just gets dusted off my shoulder. Could care less. Just reminds me where our society is today. My comments are to the one grown ass man that runs a website and talks to children online handing out suicide knowledge like it’s candy. Who posts people’s deaths as success stories.

The one person you should have been talking to was your fucking daughter. And now you're here doing the same thing yet again: talking to another person.

Dude you fucking suck at being a parent. I still can't believe you said this:

Maybe if someone would have encouraged her to talk to her mother down the hall in her last moments she would be here too

Even when speaking about your child after she died, you still won't even talk to her in your imagination. Holy shit, you fucking neglectful piece of shit. You treated your children like houseplants. All you gave them was the essentials and then you got upset that they aren't functional.

Your parents probably did the same thing that you did and that's why you fucking suck at rasing kids

You saying "Blah blah blah" to something as simple as "Create good memories with your kids" immediately underlines that you don't fucking know how to do anything with kids.

 

[dick brain]

All the ignorant stuff from the punk kids just gets dusted off my shoulder. Could care less.

He finally admits it

 

[AnOminous]

Suicide is an important discussion, but this community is actively breaking the rules it set. “Have to be over the age of 18” ha, yeah, like that’s being inforced. “Do not push someone to suicide” that is literally this ENTIRE forum.

Kill yourself retard.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Kill yourself retard.

If only there was a website that could assist in that...

 

[afounder]

Blah blah blah. I’m only talking to one person in here. All the ignorant stuff from the punk kids just gets dusted off my shoulder. Could care less. Just reminds me where our society is today. My comments are to the one grown ass man that runs a website and talks to children online handing out suicide knowledge like it’s candy. Who posts people’s deaths as success stories.

Damn I definitely don't remember doing any of that. You sure do make a bunch of accusations without evidence. At least provide receipts if you're going to accuse me of being the worst person in the world.

 

[Throng of Titans]

Why is FuneralCry still alive? The 500 post award on SS should be mandatory euthanasia.

You can't exactly fetishize and romanticize death when you're on the wrong end of a casket.

 

[Day of the Cope]

I have no way to word this without sounding like a pretentious reddit faggot, so all I'll say is if you want to stop sites like SS: stop giving your kid a nightmare brick to stare into, make sure your kid feels like they can come to you with any problem, be willing to reach out to people in need of help, and make sure the people you care about know they can turn to you for help.

 

[afounder]

I have no way to word this without sounding like a pretentious reddit faggot, so all I'll say is if you want to stop sites like SS: stop giving your kid a nightmare brick to stare into, make sure your kid feels like they can come to you with any problem, be willing to reach out to people in need of help, and make sure the people you care about know they can turn to you for help.

I agree completely. Sites like SS wouldn't exist if people took mental health problems seriously and actually listen to their children in times of obvious distress. There's not one person that has stumbled upon a website and then decided to kill themselves just like that. I think it is time to look inwards as a society and parents need to start paying attention to what their children watch and do on the internet. There are so many parental apps and easy ways to set up your network to block harmful sites, but not even that is enough sometimes. At the end of the day, parents need to make sure that they are approachable by their children and maintain good relationships with their children so that they don't end up going down the wrong path.

I believe there's too much focus, wasted energy, and time put into shutting down websites, and censoring voices, but at the end of the day that does nothing. Parents need to stop expecting the internet to do their parenting.

 

[FailurePersonifiedV2]

Subliminal messages in heavy metal albums

I'm not sure if that's a false equivalency or not (although I don't think you would do so intentionally). One could argue that subliminal messaging is not very effective to convey complex ideas; as well as from what I've seen, they don't say what they mean, but they don't seem to be subtle about intentions.
In my experience, all the subliminal messaging that I've been exposed to hasn't had a noticeable effect and only have I ever been susceptible to such messaging if my desired mental state is in line with the messaging. As a person who has been into metal for as long as I can remember, and definitely prone (growing up) to such escapist ideas (however cowardly) as death, one could say that I have a disturbingly sunny outlook on my future, regardless of the fact I listen to all the music that my mother doesn't like, this has been the case, again, for as long as I can remember.

What I've read on Sanctioned Suicide seems all but subliminal, it seems that those who would wish a "failure" state (aka death) are very easy to identify.
These people do not seem to be masterful in their efforts. Personally, it is my assumption that they are just as willing to drive away "teases" as they are willing to accept and encourage those who hold a higher potential to meet their desired failure state. I use the word "desired" as I do believe that many people, simply from what I've read, do a very poor job to hide the fact that they seem to encourage suicide, through the illusion of "make your own decision, we won't judge" even if they stay away from direct statements like that. Which; there could be an argument that no matter the quality, it could be seen as subliminal messaging. So i can see your point from that view.

WHICH COMPLETE SIDE NOTE, I'm really tired of the "tolerant" or "we don't judge here" type people in online communities, or hell, even IRL I run into this seemingly all the time.
For all the cunts who might read this who have that tendency, I hope when you pass, no one will mourn you. I can't think of a more selfish mentality, especially when dealing with mentally ill individuals. The concept that they are adults, and that you won't judge, implies you will forfeit any attempt to show them that their logic is flawed. By doing so, it shows a complete lack of willingness to cause a stir by contradicting them, which shows a lack of care as you would rather be "comfortable" around them (completely self serving behavior), completely willing to leaving them to their own delusions and their own ills, which may eventually lead to their departure from this mortal coil. Would you want a doctor or therapist in your own life, that cares so much about your feelings, that they don't actually do anything to help you?
So yeah; fuck you people, I hope your days are full of strife, and I hope you find no peace till the end. End of spergy sidenote; I just hate that shit so fucking much.

Once again, [citation needed]

Stop repeating yourself please; if you are making a point, why not show an example that contradicts the statement you believe is unsupported? In most cases, this is easy to achieve and will help along the conversation instead of stagnating it by acting like an NPC.

 

[Dyn]

If a suicide forum makes people commit suicide how come there are hundreds of parenting forums and @CB_ still won't parent?

 

[afounder]

WHICH COMPLETE SIDE NOTE, I'm really tired of the "tolerant" or "we don't judge here" type people in online communities, or hell, even IRL I run into this seemingly all the time.
For all the cunts who might read this who have that tendency, I hope when you pass, no one will mourn you. I can't think of a more selfish mentality, especially when dealing with mentally ill individuals. The concept that they are adults, and that you won't judge, implies you will forfeit any attempt to show them that their logic is flawed. By doing so, it shows a complete lack of willingness to cause a stir by contradicting them, which shows a lack of care as you would rather be "comfortable" around them (completely self serving behavior), completely willing to leaving them to their own delusions and their own ills, which may eventually lead to their departure from this mortal coil. Would you want a doctor or therapist in your own life, that cares so much about your feelings, that they don't actually do anything to help you?
So yeah; fuck you people, I hope your days are full of strife, and I hope you find no peace till the end. End of spergy sidenote; I just hate that shit so fucking much.

I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, many of the people that end up on SS are people that have heard the same platitudes, been involuntarily committed, abused, raped, or assaulted. Giving them that room to vent without getting all up in their face and trying to debate them when all they are feeling is despair and pain is very important. Most of these people are people that have fallen through the crack of our society. They have likely already gone through therapy and their doctors (for those suffering from debilitating or chronic conditions) and the mental health system failed them there. The least that someone can do in that situation is listen and give people their space.

Stop repeating yourself please; if you are making a point, why not show an example that contradicts the statement you believe is unsupported? In most cases, this is easy to achieve and will help along the conversation instead of stagnating it by acting like an NPC.

Because the statement has been made countless times in this thread with no evidence to back it up. The only evidence that someone posted was a low count poster telling a single mother to kill themselves, but it seems there were banned for making that comment, which seems to contradict their point that the moderator staff doesn't enforce the rules.