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And how long before "being actively anti progressive" means that voting, diplomacy, and democracy ain't gonna cut it, especially after 2020 and 2022 and their respective elections?

How long before it IS on the minds? How long before they DO consider?

So basically the plan is to enact another Ruby Ridge or Waco? And get people to show how awful the ATF and the three letter agencies are in real time?
I'm waiting for the shoe to drop, they are really pumping up the fucking heat on the frog and I pray it notices before it's boiled. Though as I've insinuated other times, in my part of the world I pretty much consider it a pipedream for any sort of awakening to ever bloody happen due to how absolutely cucked everything is, so I'm kind of desperate for a cultural wave from the US that makes a good chunk of the western world react. I hate to admit it, but the cultural influence of the US is insane (hell, I'm a byproduct of it).
Balkanization is how it applies in the current era, and that would destroy the current world order as it relies on America being intact.
This is what I expect will happen, but I just don't see how it will actually happen. The biggest factor is that people always talk about states seceeding, but it's not about states, not really, if California nuked LA and SF, the suddenly is a shit ton more right wing. The balkanization that will have real impact would be an active assault from the rural to the urban hellholes or at a minimum a passive siege (lets see how they enjoy when the redneck truckers aren't transporting shit anymore and how they enjoy their feral nigger pets when they get hungry). Basically Texas seceding isn't that relevant if Austin keeps getting more and more pozzed for example.
None of that needs to happen. You're missing the point. The point is to make the Heartland a no-go zone for the Feds' enforcers, so that the former is free to govern themselves as they see fit.

Let the coasties keep their Carrion Emperor on his Golden Throne, and their bughives of anarcho-tyranny. Not our problem.
How much of this is actually achieved? I mean, what states are actually telling the Feds, "No fuck you and die" and that isn't some performative faggotry? I'm talking a snubbing of such level that the central government considers filling for insurrection/treachery here.
About January 6th, on one hand my conspiracies were proven right again, but on the other that’s not a good thing.
I would like the full, uncut footage to be available to the public, I would trust random autistics online more that MSM, but from what we see now it glows from outer space.
Agreed, but the problem is if it will break the narrative. People constantly talk about how the media is losing relevance, but I file this more as wishful thinking.
Crosspost from the Russo-Ukrainian thread because it's tangentially related:
If said Ukranian super soldiers happen to have stars and stripes in their wallets it would ring closer home. Amusing they are letting this come out. What's the endgame?
Of course not, they specifically pointed out there is no evidence linking it to Zelensky. It was a group of pro-Ukrainian patriots... From a country with no navy or access to the Baltic coastline... With enough hardware to plant explosives at the bottom of the sea... Acting undetected in a region so infested with NATO listening posts that a fish can't fart without alerting the operators.

Don't question it, okay?
Ever heard of the Ghost of Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyiiivvvv, CHUD!?!?!? Those plucky Ukranians can do anything!
Not only do people not know about this shit IRL despite being in the NYT, they get actively pissed if you try to explain it to them. Uncle Yuri was right, demoralization is very real.
Main reason why balkanization is the only option. It is an unreachable divide and giving any sort benefit of the doubt is just hurting yourself. It's so fucking wretched understanding that "Taking the high ground" is probably a psyop to make people be pussies when interacting with psychopaths who give no shits. Taking the high ground means fucking nothing if your country is dead and your values erased. And that's the biggest barrier, people are still too "civilized". And I know how fucking horrible what I'm saying sounds.
Reminder that it's gonna get a lot uglier before we see some actual daylight. Just let the words of Saint Terry flow through you.

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Jesus fucking Christ, based! Can that be the based black man that goes to congress and talk? At least I'll have a laugh.
 
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At any given moment, a large majority of people are sheep.

I don't mean this in a insulting way this time. I mean that people will focus on their own lives and the things close to them and not worry much about what is going on.

However as times get worse these people start to move. The herd gets nervous, so the speak, and they start paying more attention.

As it stands most people around the world are still not really paying attention, but that isn't too much a issue. More and more people are waking up and deciding enough is enough. Most normies in the USA may not be paying attention to everything going on but even the less attentive ones are getting nervous with a feeling of dread.

There have been polls from all sorts of institutes, and even the most biased ones cannot find more than at the most generous estimates 20% of people give a slight shit about Jan 6th. I saw a video last year a dude did on the anniversary of it asking random people on a street about it and most people didn't even register that Jan 6th was supposed to be a important date. Even when he prompted them directly most didn't even realize until he spelled it out and most of them considered it just some "riot" and not worth paying attention. Of those who did there was one guy who said he didn't see what was so horrible and that all things considered the crowd wasn't violent and one who went full Alex Jones and said the Government set it up and they were hiding the truth.

So yeah, most people don't react at all but that isn't the W for the establishment it looks likes.
Honestly, 1/6 was just a low-violence riot following damn near six months of high-violence riots all over the place the year before. It was really hard to give a fuck by that point.
 
Question for the Americans:

Does any of this stuff cause any reaction irl? The internet is bubbled and fractured that you either find outrage from fringe pockets of right wing discourse or outright denial/censorship in the usual pozzed parts of the internet, so it's hard to tell if anyone even has their views changed by these sorts of stories. (Generally talking about the j6 footage but it could apply to any number of wild stories I read)

Maybe on the ground you get a different perspective on if these things penetrate the general consciousness
No, Just a lot of demoralization.

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We are waiting for the shoe to drop from the WEF & its involved players.
hey, chalk another point for J6 was a gayop.
 
The biggest thing about Jan 6th was Alex Jones telling people not to go in. That it was a honey pot, he if I recall correctly was literally standing outside of the area saying it’s a trap.

I wonder if that’s why he now has a debt that most certainly violates the 8th Amendment. Those judges were some faggots.
Wait they ACTUALLY ruled in favor of the 5 trillion in damages? Holy mother of fuck.
 
Ken Burns, Chuck the Cuck, and Cryin' Kinzinger are coping and seething over Tucker's revelations.

Did this retard not only complain that literally showing the unedited footage is some sort of "soviet style propaganda", but actually say the absurdly stupid line of Potemkin villages being a NAZI propaganda trick? Holy fuck the actual negative IQ. Literally throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the opposition. Fucker can't even be bothered to remember that Potemkin villages are Russian.


China and the USA are locked in a parasitic relationship, both going down and they cannot let go of the other.

Xi actually thinks he can try and move away from the USA now, and the delusional managerial class in D.C. thinks they can just play pretend and make the chinks play ball.

Both are gonna fucking implode. And I guarantee if it comes to that the USA will be bleeding a LOT less than China.

Yea, they even tried to seize his fucking cat. I don't think I've ever seen anyone hate anyone as much as the neoliberal establishment hates Alex Jones.

They pretty much demanded a billion dollars from him on completely bogus grounds. No one can come up with any excuse that isn't a retarded appeal to emotion "muh sandy hook parents crying". The Judge in his trial was a literal card carrying member of the Democrat party who openly attacked Jones on personal grounds all the time.

It was a miscarrige of justice and only delusional faggots and dishonest bugmen deny it. Nothing, NOTHING Jones has done to these parents comes close to the sort of slander people like Richard Jewel, Rittenhouse, Micheal Jackson and such had to deal from "legitimate" press. It was a open political attack because he was too popular and they could not allow someone who called them out be heard.
 
Honestly, 1/6 was just a low-violence riot following damn near six months of high-violence riots all over the place the year before. It was really hard to give a fuck by that point.
I will never feel bad about it, even if they put a gun in my face and demand it.

When the Trump rally started, I thought it was just a bunch of lame cope. But then I saw that the Capitol was stormed. I saw the images of of those rat bastards cowering under their desks and fleeing with gas masks.

All it took to shatter their delusions of invincibility was some boomers and a faggot in a buffalo hat.

I smiled. I laughed. And I still smile and laugh when shitlibs expect me to pity the vermin who have orchestrated every misery inflicted upon the world in my 30 years of life.

What did it accomplish? Nothing. It just gave Dems a Reichstag Fire to whine about and use as a pretext for witch hunts.

Was it worth it? Fuck yeah, it was. Seeing the lowly piss on the carpet of the mighty is the zenith of lulz.
 
Honestly, 1/6 was just a low-violence riot following damn near six months of high-violence riots all over the place the year before. It was really hard to give a fuck by that point.
They'll milk it for all it's worth (to them.) At this point, it's just suffering and self importance.
 
Geez, the more I think about American Foreign Policy, the more I think Bin Laden did humanity a service. He proved that America isn't invincible in the same way David killed Goliath.
The way you talk about him, you make it sound like you want ANOTHER Bin Laden.
So sad that Tucker Carlson died from a mugging gone wrong where nothing was stolen and the thief shot him 17 times in the back
I doubt that. I think Tucker has reached martyr icon status among the MAGA crowd. If anything is done to him, it'll be seen as an attack from the enemy. Even if Tucker is worried and believes in deep states and body counts, he has to know his worth and can easily shift into voice of the dissidents (which you can already argue he is).
Right now, there's no autonomy, just an enforced helpless isolation.
You mean the feeling there was during the height of the lockdowns?
Get real dude. The boomer Reich uprising is about as likely as me finding the Loch Ness Monster in my toilet tank.

Here come the boomer civil war fantasies/larping again.

Never gonna happen guys
TBH, I think the real thing that'll happen will be what I've said before: Most will just let everything burn down because there's nothing worth fighting for or defending, and then when hellfire consumes it all, go back and build on the ashes. It's how you get shit like people leaving states like California, why cops in places like Portland and Seattle and MSP will just put in for their retirements as early as they get and why their respective departments struggle to get new officers.

It's very much a "they made their bed, now lie in it" scenario. The only issue is that the fire burns VERY slowly, probably too slowly for some folks' liking.
 
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