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@toilet_rainbow

Indeed, the south is often used as a scapegoat in race relations when the other regions were and are no better. The north may have freed slaves earlier, but freedmen weren't exactly treated well either.

When I was in school we learned it was because the north had more money from different industries, so they had less of a financial incentive but held that as a point of moral superiority.

Princess and the Frog itself also has that feeling to me. It was fine enough as a movie, and I like Tiana and Facilier a lot as characters. It simply felt like it was missing something. Moana did, too. I had merely dismissed it as me getting older or Disney movies just getting duller, so wasn't sure if it was just me or what. It plays too safe, I suppose.

No no, you're right. It is absolutely missing that "something". There's a real thing at the root of what these people call "Disney Magic" but I don't think it's unique to Disney.
Someone who knows more than me about this industry please chime in, but there's a spark there that Princess and the Frog was missing (maybe it existed before the film was reworked and lost in production) but you can see that spark in movies like Lilo and Stitch.
When I watched The Emperor's New Groove it was an experience because it was the first time I felt like a movie was playing with me.
Also, I loved Atlantis, but when Treasure Planet came out the year after it was disappointing.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Southern US culture is interesting. It's united, it's divided, it's messy and awkward with a dark and violent past but everything seems to find its harmony in the grasslands and swamps. Northern (and Western) US culture is pretty isolated and definitely more de facto segregated. Northerners don't understand the South and many of them don't want to and would rather pretend that all of America's darkness is in the South and pretend that it doesn't exist anywhere else in the country.

@toilet_rainbow

PatF feels like an afterthought movie tbh and Tiana being a frog for most of it kind of confirms it for me. When I watched it, I thought it was fine and I liked the jazzy soundtrack but the "let's talk about racism but not in the way that makes middle America uncomfortable" was bad and should have been scrapped. It was bad in Pocahontas too. Lindsey Ellis is a hack but she was 100% right about Moana being a soft reboot of Pocahontas but after I watched PatF I swear I could hear a voice that said "We gathered the scraps of our dying 2D department to make this so here's your princess, negroes, quit your bitching about it."

What does PatF mean here? I tried googling it and got Pennsylvania Assistive Technology Foundation.

But back to the actual movie, the story of princess and the frog doesn't really work. There are good ideas, some well exuted scenes and production quality is top notch but overall it just doesn't come together. It kinda knows what it wants to do but not how to do it because there are multiple fighting elements.

Like in the ending fight between Tiana and Dr Facilier, her repeating "it's not slime it's mucus". It's portrayed as a realization moment of symbolic significance but it doesn't work. She does freaks out about being slimy earlier but beyond that it's not related to her personality, struggles or jorney. She isn't potrayed as a slimy, it's not used as stand in for her bad work life balance, she doesn't have self hate issues... Those words are underlined as having significant meaning beyond that moment but what exactly? I can't come up with one and that sort of things are all over the movie. There is no natural flow but random obstacles that kinda fit but not really.

I know it would have been political suicide at the time because we need a strong BLACK princess but the movie would have worked tons better if Naveen had been the main character. He's the one who needs to go trough a bigger character growth, his mistakes kick the story going and he has more meaningful connections to the plot affecting characters. He mirrors the other characters more that Tiana does. Him saying no to the easy anwers Dr Facilier offers would have shown more about him becoming a better person.

 

[MetalParakeet]

The only Disney merch I own is related to Disney Channel save for a doll or two. Disney Channel gets a fresh roster of characters and IPs regularly. The stuff Disney adults obsess over is mostly just the same shit over and over. Disney as a whole has always been so... everywhere that it's suffocating. It doesn't help that studios aren't too keen on investing in new IPs these days. Disney is just. so. boring.

Jesus christ. Despite being told by several people several times to stop sperging embarrassing shit about yourself, you keep on going.

I can't wait for your thread.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I'm watching those haul videos and regarding that first one--

Holy shit, all that new clothing and Minnie ear pairs for a single trip. Some of it is just for the plane ride! A spanking new outfit for the ride to Disney! Maybe one new outfit or pair of Minnie ears would be fun. But eight new sets? And that's not counting the mom buying her own stuff! If any of it gets reworn after the trip, I'll be surprised.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

good thought. i don't know of many zoomers that are into disney stuff. they seem to like minions like you said and spongebob, but not much from modern disney. when millenials hopefully age out of nostalgia trips or just die off disney may be fucked.

I even know a lot of millenials that hated Disney in the 00s. But there is a considerable part of that cohort that always sucked Disney’s dick because of 90s animated movies. Or maybe they just started sucking disneys dick for some reason. Idk. They also are more likely to be single, childless, or gay.

I really don’t understand where the enthusiasm for Disney comes from. No one in high school would’ve been caught dead wearing half the things they wear now. They wouldn’t be caught dead praising Disney either unless they were a theater kid.

When I was in school we learned it was because the north had more money from different industries, so they had less of a financial incentive but held that as a point of moral superiority.

If you think about it, one of the reasons someone would support abolishing slavery is the same reason people today are opposed to China. Having free labor gave the South an advantage when it came to producing low cost goods. If I was a northern farmer or factory worker I’d be nervous about the spread of slavery because it would hurt my bottom line. Even if I was just a laborer, the south’s system could be a threat to my job security, especially if I lived in a territory. So besides a moral opposition to slavery, there’d be the practical economic reason to oppose it.

 

[Chub Rub]

What does PatF mean here? I tried googling it and got Pennsylvania Assistive Technology Foundation.

Princess and the Frog.

 

[Valstrax]

Suspiciously Wealthy Disney Adults will never not intrigue me.

 

[EyeGuy]

I can't fathom how there are enough Disney adults for them to regularly put on events like this:

 

[AskeDead]

I can't fathom how there are enough Disney adults for them to regularly put on events like this:

We are Peter & Kitra, Star Wars/Disney geeks who love going to theme parks (Disneyland, Disney World, Universal Studios, Knotts...etc), comic conventions, cruise ships & travel.

This is grim.

 

[Corpun]

So I know its hard to determine how well a corporate conglomerate like Disney is doing but are they losing more than they make?

 

[Chub Rub]

So I know its hard to determine how well a corporate conglomerate like Disney is doing but are they losing more than they make?

Not too hard, they have quarterly earnings calls for shareholders that are pretty blunt. From last month, the Parks division was doing great, while Disney+ streaming and ESPN are hemorrhaging. They plan to lay off 7000 employees.

 

[beef lo mein]

I can't fathom how there are enough Disney adults for them to regularly put on events like this:

Pre-packaged positivity! These two actually drive me up the wall.

The place looks a little bit empty—maybe it was more that they weren’t on rides and just watching shows?

It’s curious that Disney doesn’t do more after hours nighttime events, like Grad Night. That’s a thing that childfree disney adults have been clamoring for/bitching about for eons at this point. Obviously these people will pay any price.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Suspiciously Wealthy Disney Adults will never not intrigue me.

Failsons and faildaughters have to spend their time somewhere.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Probably more appropriate to talk about in June, but Disney Parks are known for having "gay days" at their parks where gays get together and party. Kinda like an unofficial pride parade at the Happiest Place on Earth.



Disney has been catering more to the LGBT lately. It's super easy to find rainbow Mickey shit around June, and they're adding more "first gay Disney character(s)" to every new production of theirs. So while they don't currently hold officially organized Gay Days, I can absolutely see them doing it in the future.

 

[GenociderSyo]

They have an entire pride line now as well.

 

[NoReturn]

I'm watching those haul videos and regarding that first one--

Holy shit, all that new clothing and Minnie ear pairs for a single trip. Some of it is just for the plane ride! A spanking new outfit for the ride to Disney! Maybe one new outfit or pair of Minnie ears would be fun. But eight new sets? And that's not counting the mom buying her own stuff! If any of it gets reworn after the trip, I'll be surprised.

She has so many of these!

I can't fathom how there are enough Disney adults for them to regularly put on events like this:

If I were a kid dragged to this I would have cried from embarrassment.
Those princesses are all on cocaine, right? That's how they do this?

 

[ASeabear8952]

That they infact did, and by all reports... it slapped hard. They've had a few good anime, like Summertime Render. The question is how many weebs have Disney plus and how many chose to pirate- they're kinda in the Netflix situation.

I completely forgot that Disney owns Hulu as well, which has a ton of anime, and it’s where Bleach apparently is in America.

 

[870EVO]

They have an entire pride line now as well.

I can't find it. Did they pull it?

Disney Releases New 'Pride Collection,' an LGBTQ Clothing Line for Children

Disney has released their new "Pride Collection," a clothing line for children that comes on the heels of the entertainment company's adversarial response to Florida's new parental rights in education bill and amid its escalating attempts to include LGBTQ themes and characters in children's...

www1.cbn.com

 

[GenociderSyo]

I can't find it. Did they pull it?

It was released last year so its probly on hold until they release the 2023 one. Some items still exist at disney site and there was a pride section in their main disney store at disney springs.

 

[Valstrax]

Probably more appropriate to talk about in June, but Disney Parks are known for having "gay days" at their parks where gays get together and party. Kinda like an unofficial pride parade at the Happiest Place on Earth.

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Disney has been catering more to the LGBT lately. It's super easy to find rainbow Mickey shit around June, and they're adding more "first gay Disney character(s)" to every new production of theirs. So while they don't currently hold officially organized Gay Days, I can absolutely see them doing it in the future.

See? We support gay people now! Buy our fucking product.