Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[JoshPlz]

If you don't know, when Ukrainians were bombing civilians for the last 8 years, whenever questioned officials would brush it off and say ridiculous shit like "it's probably just air conditioning units exploding in Donetsk, we aren't bombing them"

That seems like such a random thing to claim. Are exploding air conditioning units even a thing? I have never heard about something like that happening before. The most common coolant gases aren't even combustible.

Blaming faulty heating gas appliances would have made a little sense at least.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Destructive but mostly Sporadic strike tactics?

Same energy as fiery but mostly peaceful protests

 

[kuuu]

That seems like such a random thing to claim. Are exploding air conditioning units even a thing? I have never heard about something like that happening before. The most common coolant gases aren't even combustible.

Blaming faulty heating gas appliances would have made a little sense at least.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html

The authorities in Kiev denied its planes had been involved. Initially, the anti-terrorist operation said the explosion originated from inside the building, then that an anti-aircraft missile operated by the separatists had misfired, reacting to heat from an air-conditioning system on the outside of the building.

Addendum: “air conditioners blowing up” was how peace-loving khokhols reacted to these news over at social networks, laughing at retarded orc-separatists. But you’ll have to trust local Russians on that.

 

[Kane Lives]

How do we come out of this war, what is the non-nuclear endgame? The American MIC won't accept it is wrong and after what happened in Afghanistan, how could an American enemy/non-ally take the American word as gospel?

Trump, America, the Uk and the West all signed an agreement with the Taliban to honour a withdrawal so that more bloodshed could be spared from both sides. Then Biden and MIC tear that up and...we all saw what happened.

Even if by some miracle the MIC said "OK, we are leaving Ukraine, it is all yours Vlad" how could Russia be sure that America would then stick to its' word?

That's the thing, isn't it? How does anyone take the current American government by its word? The last thirty years is proof enough that an American agreement only lasts as long as the administration feels like abiding to it. And with every change of administration, you risk having the new guys in charge simply break off whatever agreement they had because it is now inconvenient to them (or their masters).

I just don't see how this can end peacefully.

 

[White_N]

2016 Victoria Nuland:
-US advisors serve in 12 Ukrainian ministries
-With US help, newly-vetted & trained police officers patrol 18 cities
-US funds attorneys
-US gave Ukraine $266 million to train soldiers & National Guard
-US started Privatization of state owned enterprises

Where the fuck is sovereignty here?

 

[YumeNoHero]

Destructive but mostly Sporadic strike tactics?

Same energy as fiery but mostly peaceful protests

I really fucking hate this kind of doublespeak. This is like you get your ass raped hard by ol' Biden but it's fine because you didn't contract HIV.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

That's the thing, isn't it? How does anyone take the current American government by its word? The last thirty years is proof enough that an American agreement only lasts as long as the administration feels like abiding to it. And with every change of administration, you risk having the new guys in charge simply break off whatever agreement they had because it is now inconvenient to them (or their masters).

I just don't see how this can end peacefully.

In a strange twist of fate, I think the only people who can secure peace in Europe is the Germans. If they walk I can see Britain and France joining them. Britain and France won't walk first though because the WEF control their leaders.

If America are given an exit strategy that allows them to save face, they will take it once their money is made, but not a second or penny before.

 

[Brute Male!]

Kinda disappointed for lack of good wartime propaganda music, it's mostly been rap, hardbass and cringe orchestral compositions. At least Yugoslav War gave us turbo folk and very kino music videos.

Currently, Australians are too complacent and don't really give a shit. The defense experts (war mongers working for the USA) are saying there will need to be a physicological shift in the Australian population to change their attitude. To support a rapid build-up of arms and a willingness to get involved if China invades, Taiwan does something in the South China sea or puts a military base on a pacific island.

So there's a deliberate plan to scare the shit out of Australians. No idea how that'll go. They're also saying this is urgent because Australia could be in a kinetic war with China within three years. I don't see what is possible to do in that time. Unless America just dumps a shit tonne of its stuff there for the Australians to use. There is talk Australia will be the US's proxy. Yet I don't see how that practically could work.

This entire fight for some corrupt slav shithole has really brought to bear just how inept, impotent and uncooperative alliances of western nations are.

EU, USA, Bongland and it's commonwealth colonies are woefully inadequate to fight any serious country with strong cultural and national spirit especially if that country has solid domestic heavy industry and energy infrastructure. These liberal democracies have spent at least three generations buck breaking their citizens culturally, spiritually and physically so they are docile little golems that work just hard enough to make GDP grow, consoom and expire right before retirement.

And now political class thinks they can will into being through power of fiat currency and statistics a warrior force full of democratic zeal to bring those eastern hordes to heel with WW2 levels of ramped up industrial output.

E: grammar, I'm retarded.

 

[Harambe]

I keep wondering how long until the strikes actually cripple the grid permanently and irretrievably. Every couple of weeks they find some new substations to blow up, but damned if the hohols cant keep it alive.

I think the nature of the strikes also attests to restraint, like, "we can carpet bomb you or hit any target in any oblast, and you fucks are trying our patience."

Then again reading about the infighting with Wagner over bakhmut doesn't inspire a lot of confidence

maybe I'm just a worrier

 

[Feline Supremacist]

A website is using Chinese magic and technology to help Russia win by constantly generating dead Zelensky images.

https://endlesslydeadzelensky.com/

我们创建了一个可无数次生成躺在墓地棺材中的死者弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基图像的神经网络。 我们相信，通过查看这些图像，通过想象死去的泽连斯基的模样，我们可以促进他的死亡，显化我们的想法。 泽连斯基的死亡是阻止这个迫害他国与整个世界的疯子的唯一的一个办法。 请坐下观赏图片，想象死去的他会是什么样子。 请帮我们实现我们的想法。只有通过集体，我们才可以获胜！ 谢谢


We created a neural network that generated an infinite number of images of the deceased Vladimir Zelensky lying in a coffin in a cemetery. We believe that by looking at these images, by imagining what a dead Zelensky looked like, we can facilitate his death and manifest our thoughts. Zelensky's death is the only way to stop this lunatic who is persecuting his country and the world. Please sit back and look at the pictures and imagine what he would have looked like dead. Please help us realize our ideas. Only through collectives can we win! Thanks

ngl I almost spewed coffee all over the monitor

 

[White_N]

People were complaining about the lack of footage, so here's Lancaster with Wagner at Soledar.

 

[smartypants302]

Kinda disappointed for lack of good wartime propaganda music, it's mostly been rap, hardbass and cringe orchestral compositions. At least Yugoslav War gave us turbo folk and very kino music videos.

I agree with you. You may like this musician here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFTuQDrYSE, though I like her pre-military special operation videos more during the civil war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKLppu-A4f0&list=WL&index=10 . Or this is a recent Russian propaganda song, "I am Russian, my blood is of my father". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZdM8p19vrU.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Imagine the seethe of the Ukroscum that, during a battle that will determine the direction of this war and the Ukraine, with high casualties and intense combat with constant shelling, they were so butthurt they either carted away or destroyed the monument with a MiG 17 instead of concentrating on Bakhmut and the war.

https://t.me/i20028843/59552

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Imagine the seethe of the Ukroscum that, during a battle that will determine the direction of this war and the Ukraine, with high casualties and intense combat with constant shelling, they were so butthurt they either carted away or destroyed the monument with a MiG 17 instead of concentrating on Bakhmut and the war.

They're gonna try to make it fly again, the Ukrainian Air Force needs more planes because those A-10's ain't showing up.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

They're gonna try to make it fly again, the Ukrainian Air Force needs more planes because those A-10's ain't showing up.

Also explains what happened to all the T-34's.

I agree with you. You may like this musician here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFTuQDrYSE, though I like her pre-military special operation videos more during the civil war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKLppu-A4f0&list=WL&index=10 . Or this is a recent Russian propaganda song, "I am Russian, my blood is of my father". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZdM8p19vrU.

I've been hearing that Mongol Shuudan is popular with Russian troops. They got some good tracks related to Ukraine and Makhno and all that.

 

[noor1717]

The Ukro-simps on reddit are starting to wake up to the reality of Bakhmut







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[MrJokerRager]

This was 6 days before the Georgia riots started. CIA mad.

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The neoliberals and neocons love color revolutions so much.

They even staged one during the 2020 summer of love and one during January 6th.

 

[moocow]

I think the nature of the strikes also attests to restraint, like, "we can carpet bomb you or hit any target in any oblast, and you fucks are trying our patience."

I think this is the best explanation. It's obvious Russia has enough ordnance to flatten a city, but they're showing restraint in the (increasingly vain) hope that eventually a slightly less intense pounding on a periodic basis will slap some reality back into Ukraine's handlers. They also know that completely killing Ukraine's electric grid would probably rile up more of the population to enlist (among those who haven't been force-conscripted already) and make Ukraine appear even more "sympathetic" for the propagandists' use: "they're depriving innocent civilians of electricity and running water, what monsters!"

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

In addition to what was said previously about the energy grid, in my opinion it also has a huge morale effect, especially on the people who actually have to repair it. You spend weeks, potentially months, trying to restore power grid. It's not an easy job, and you're in actual risk of getting bombed and killed. Then one day you notice that the city is fully lit up, energy everywhere, power reported at every station... you go to sleep, and are woken up by a distant sound of explosion, and instantly dread the worst, which is only confirmed when you try to turn on your light. Honestly, I'd just want to give up. Imo it definitely works, because it's been like third time this has happened, and apparently it's impossible to stop the destruction - so at some point, why even bother trying to fix it again, if russians will destroy it as soon as it works again?

 

[Overly Serious]

At this point, I'm just hoping there will be mass surrenders in Bakhmut. Not because I don't believe dying for your family or for your country can't sometimes be the right thing to do. But because dying for a foreign power that installed a puppet regime in your country is the wrong thing to do.

It's astonishing to me that Zelensky is willing to send yet more people in there rather than have dialogue.